The Indonesian Plane That Went Missing Had Terrorist Supporters On Board (Unlocking The Mystery Of The Black Hand)

Adding to the mystery of Flight QZ8501 is a post on a Chinese forum predicting that a plane will be disappearing from AirAsia’s fleet was posted 13 days before the civilian jet crashed as the Daily Mail reported and others reported. You can click here to go to the forum to verify which translated reads:

International Black Hand and the Malaysia Airlines MH370 Malaysia Airlines MH17 after the hijacking and shot down, as the world’s sixth-largest airline Ma Hangji this collapse, in a lethargic state now, the big black hand again targeted in AirAsia, as always, you must destroy the AirAsia as part of Malaysia’s AirAsia also in view of the Black Hand forces too powerful, too vicious heart, suggested that the Chinese passenger travel, away from AirAsia, do not become a victim of another MH370

It’s a bit rambling, but the poster alleges that an organization called “The International Black Hand” is behind the plane disappearances.

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Some speculated that “Historically The Black Hand can refer to a number of underground, anarchic organizations, a majority of which have ties to Islam. We are watching this theory as it progresses, along with the Reddit forum discussing it, but it is by far the creepiest.”

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So is it possible that someone accurately predicted the crash of QZ8501? And who is this Black Hand?

Well, I will first try to shoot this theory down as a conspiracy theory. First of all since two incidents MH17 and MH370 occurred, it would certainly stimulate some to warn, do not travel Asia Airlines that there is a suspicion more planes will fall from the sky. It would be like warning not to go to Manhattan after seeing two planes lobbed into WTC in New York on 911. This in itself is no miracle and does not take a rocket scientist to figure out and assuming that we had another plane crash in New York after 911 would not prove that such information came from some leaked intelligence either since many become paranoid especially after a horrific incident like 911.

Secondly, to say that the “International Black Hand” were behind these two planes is more speculation since all the organizations involved with anything called Black Hand is old history and we have nothing from any recent terrorist activities by anything called “Black Hand.”

The Black Hand is very old which can be traced to the Kingdom of Naples as early as the 1750s. Then we have the Black Hand (Arabicالكف
الاسود (transliterational-Kaff al-Aswad) was an anti-Zionist and anti-British terrorist organization in the British Mandate of Palestine during the 1930s. Then we have the Serbian Black Hand in the early 1900s.

So perhaps here I debunked this conspiracy theory.

Unless, of course, what these Chinese intended to say is the Rab’a Black Hand which has become the symbol of Islamists worldwide lately. So to see if there is anyone who supports this Rab’a Black Hand I started searching the passenger list to peruse the names on flight QZ8501 to see what I can glean from the passenger list. And carrying out the ‘unpardonable sin’ of ‘Muslim profiling’ my eyes caught a name Abdullah Al Muttaqin (English: The Servant of Allah Who Fears Allah) which sounded good enough for me to test if me being infected with Islamophobia was legit and as it turned out it was a healthy phobia, as usual. No matter where I looked, Indonesians are severely infected with Jihad. The first name on Facebook that popped up was Abdullah Al-Muttaquin, an Indonesian who travelled to Egypt, studied in Al-Azhar and said that he went to Syria and had a bunch of terrorist paraphernalia littering his Facebook page with friends and likes too many to show here including the very Black Hand.



Is this the Black Hand the Chinese was warning about?

The Rab’a Black Hand started as the symbol of the Muslim Brotherhood in August 2013 when the Egyptian authorities violently broke up sit-ins by supporters of ousted Egyptian president Muhammad Mursi near the Rabi’a Al-‘Adawiyya Mosque and in Al-Nahda Square in Cairo. The four-fingers stems from the name Rab’a a woman from Basra who first formulated the Sufi ideal of a love of Allah. And since Rabi’a means “Fourth” it became “Rabi’a four finger sign,” which has gained widespread popularity which users from all parts in the world showed interest from Asia to Europe and from Africa to the USA. Thousands of users notably in Pakistan, Iraq, Egypt, Bosnia Herzegovina, Malaysia and Indonesia use the symbol. On the Facebook, the number of those using “Rabia sign” as a profile picture is reported to be over 100 million. Even Erdogan of Turkey is leading the way when he shows such support on most of his photo ops speaking to Muslim crowds. The symbol has now spread globally in support of an Islamic utopia.



It also appears as R4BIA, which some say its Rabia For Brotherhood’s Independant Army, but at face value, it’s the obvious symbol of Rabia For Bia (Bay’a) which Bay’a/Bay’at is “Allegiance” to the Muslim Caliphate. Indonesians have been so infected with all this. One example of Muttaqin’s likes is for the Palestinian terrorist group, Al-Qassam Commandos:


Logo says: “Qassam Comandos.” The Arabic says “Let us invade them [Israel] before they invade us” in both Hebrew and Arabic.


English: She is asking for our prayers, Allah give victory to Islam and to the Jihadists and to the Muslims in Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Indonesia, Bosnia and Malaysia.

The majority of Muslims in Indonesia and Malaysia we researched in one way or the other supported Jihad.

The question we had if this was the Abdullah Muttaqin on flight QZ8501? But even attempting to pin-point that exact Abdullah Muttaqin who was on that flight or another Abdullah Muttaqin wouldn’t make much difference, everywhere you look Indonesians on Facebook pretty much are Islamists. But for the sake of accuracy we did some digging since perhaps we had the wrong “Muttaqin” so I consulted my Facebook oracle, my son Theodore who disappointed me since he found friends of the Muttaqin on flight QZ8501 who were sharing condolences and linking to QZ8501 Abdullah Muttaqin’s Facebook page. The find at first seems to bust my Islamophobic bubble since this “Muttaqin” would be considered an absolutely “devout moderate Muslim” if there is such an oxymoron. Here, let me explain, while all these Muttaqins do not support ISIS and Al-Qaeda, they do not mind supporting and even financially aiding groups that support only Palestinian terrorism. In the Muslim world, you might denounce ISIS because it does not perform true Jihad against the Jews. In other words, from a western perspective of looking at things, that hate is hate, in the Muslim world there are exceptions: “I am not prejudice, no, I am not a racist, oh no Allah forbid for I only hate Jews”.  The moderate Muslim plane-crash martyr Abdullah Muttaqin has also one of his likes an organization called Yayasan Al Kahfi, an institution to spreading Islam via patriotism and of course “denouncing terrorism and hatred” with the exception of supporting Palestinian terrorism, of course. That website had “support for Palestine” and had sent a tweet to Izzuddin Brigades terrorist group with “To heaven O Martyrs, 1998 Jihad In The Way of Allah attributed from Yayasan Al Kahfi in Surabaya,” the city where that dreadful flight took off.



The QZ8501 martyr Muttaqin also links to Otaku Muslim Community a Facebook that also supports Hamas openly:


Indonesian Muslims love cartoon Jihad. This being a favorite of Abduallah Muttaqin is a terrorist with the Palestinian flag and an AK47.


The message under says: “Come on, help our brothers and sisters in Gaza! Pray for it’s important, but also important to materially support! While the fasting month too! May the charity be received. Amen!”


All this from inquiring only one Muslim name on that flight. I wonder what one can find inquiring the rest of the Muslim youth from that list on QZ8501.

Even if I get healed from my Islamophobia, it would be difficult to see Indonesia, the largest Muslim population in the world resisting a future Jihad against Israel. It is no wonder why the Euphrates must be dried up for the two hundred million man army to come to fight in Jerusalem (Revelation 16:12). While the American Prophecy buffs blame the poor Chinese, they forget the Muslims of Indonesia. This one Chinese warned not to take these flights and God blessed him for that. The fate of the Indonesians who are calling for Jihad against Jerusalem will be the fate of QZ8501, total annihilation from an upper storm, from above, plunging them down to the Abyss. While our hearts go out for the Christians on that flight, it was also amazing to see several Christian families whom God prevented from entering that flight who now celebrated Christmas and New Year’s.


Ari Putro Cahyonom and his family. Notice the cross


Chandra Susanto and family

It must have melted God’s heart to see that pudgy cheeks kid in the above photo to die in a crash so He struck Grandpa Susantos with an illness serious enough to make them cancel.

But Christians in Indonesia should not hold their breath. A fatwa was issued by Aceh provinces clerical Ulema Consultative Assembly, which said that wishing someone ‘Merry Christmas’ or celebrating the New Year were forbidden under Sharia or Islamic law.

To many, that’s okay, of course, but when I wrote about the pilot from the missing flight QZ8501 being devout Muslim who ran sortees over East Timor where Christians got killed, I had ‘Christians’ upset with me for “spreading hate.” When I researched Captain Iriyanto I access the local news in Indonesian, not in English where everything is greased up with Islamo-sensitivity, to only find out that the pilot of the missing flight QZ8501 and like the pilot on the other missing flight MH370 was a ‘nice’ devout Muslim:

“Iriyanto was also active in the community as a board member and chairman of the mosque at his residence in Pondok Jati Block BC 12 Village Pagerwojo, Buduran, Sidoarjo.”

“In addition to serving as Chairman of RT 39, Iriyanto also served as a board leader of Masjid Nurul Yaqin, which is located in the housing complex.”

“He was also diligent in worship. When everyone was at home, he would certainly be seen praying in congregation in the mosque.”

With all these devout Muslims, we worried if terrorism was involved in these flights. We speculated on December 30th, prior to finding any trace to QZ8501 that “If QZ8501 is also not found quickly then we have a major problem” but as we see now signs of wreckage and bodies were found. We don’t have the full details yet, but again, this still does not answer the issues we brought up so we must wait and pray that our theory of a hijack is false. Finding QZ8501 does not answer the dilemma since in 911 there was also a flight that crashed in Pennsylvania due to a scuffle with terrorists. What happened on board QZ8501 remains a mystery at the moment. What we do know is that  AirAsia QZ8501 made an “unbelievably” steep climb before it crashed, possibly pushing it beyond the Airbus A320’s limits, according to radar data, a source close to the investigation has told Reuters.

“So far, the numbers taken by the radar are unbelievably high. This rate of climb is very high, too high. It appears to be beyond the performance envelope of the aircraft,” he said.


Leaked radar data has revealed that the plane (shown as AWQ8501 in the bottom right of the screen) made an ‘unbelievably’ steep climb just moments before it crashed, pushing the Airbus A320 beyond its capabilities.

‘So far, the numbers taken by the radar are unbelievably high. This rate of climb is very high, too high. It appears to be beyond the performance envelope of the aircraft,’ an anonymous source said to be familiar with the crash investigation told the Hindustan Times.

Some of the recovered bodies were fully clothed, which could indicate the Airbus A320-200 was intact when it hit the water – supporting the theory that the plane did not explode or break up in mid-air and may instead have suffered an aerodynamic stall.

‘It seems all the wreckage found has drifted more than 50km from yesterday’s location,’ said vice air marshal Sunarbowo Sandi, search and rescue co-ordinator in Pangkalan Bun on Borneo Island, the closest town to the site. ‘We are expecting those bodies will end up on beaches.’

Aviation experts have speculated that the flight may have encountered ‘black storm cells’ which caused a build-up of ice on airspeed senors known as pitot tubes.

A similar scenario was blamed for the Air France disaster when Flight AF447 crashed into the Atlantic Ocean in 2009 while en route from Rio De Janeiro to Paris.

Aviation expert Geoffrey Thomas spoke to several check captains and believes the pilot of QZ8501 encountered difficult weather conditions but flew too slow in his efforts to avoid it.

‘The QZ8501 was flying too slow, about 100 knots which is about 160 km/h too slow. At that altitude that’s exceedingly dangerous,’ Mr. Thomas said.

‘Pilots believe that the crew, in trying to avoid the thunderstorm by climbing, somehow have found themselves flying too slow and thus induced an aerodynamic stall similar to the circumstances of the loss of Air France AF447 to crash in 2009.’

‘I have a radar plot which shows him at 36,000 feet and climbing at a speed of 353 knots, which is approximately 100 knots too slow … if the radar return is correct, he appears to be going too slow for the altitude he is flying at,’ Mr. Thomas said.

Although unlikely to have caused structural damage to the A320, lightning can affect navigation systems and flashes could temporarily disorient pilots. Sudden shifts in wind direction also have the potential to force jet engines into a stall, although experts say that this scenario is very unlikely and point to the fact that the Airbus A320 is certified to fly up to three hours on a single engine. I myself was on a flight which lost an engine leaving from Puerto Vallarta Mexico which returned and landed safely.

What we do know however which presents a problem is that both flights sent no distress signals where the pilots had “plenty of time” to report any technical problems, Flight Global’s operations and safety editor David Learmount said. “Something happened and the pilots did not tell anyone. Why? It’s a good question,” he said. “It’s extraordinary the pilots failed to call because they had plenty of time to. Unless there was a bomb on board, but there has been no evidence of that.”

When it came to MH370, radar signals showed the plane then descended to 23,000 ft before climbing again and flying towards the Indian Ocean. Officials say only someone with “significant flying experience” could have done this, but why would they unless it is a plot to evade radar coverage?

MH370 is one of the biggest aviation mysteries of all time, MH370 disappeared, the plane’s identifying transponders appeared to be intentionally shut off, its pilots stopped making radio transmissions and the airliner made a mysterious turn before possibly traveling for hours until all traces vanished. Uncertainly over the fate of MH370 was further compounded by reports that two men whose names matched those on the passenger manifest had reported their passports stolen as confirmed by Interpol and so far no one is showing a single photo of two individuals who entered flight MH370 using false passports? Someone connected these two passports stolen from two different occasions registering together is highly suspicious and adds to our probabilities. Then we have 19 families and even the airline itself have managed to call phones of their missing loved ones.

In conclusion, even if we find QZ8501, the mystery continues, but one thing for sure and regardless if many Muslims are anti-ISIS, I do not trust anyone who wants to kill Jews.


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