In his first-ever interview with the Main stream media, Edward Snowden sat down with NBC's Brian Williams and offered his own insights on his alleged espionage.
Snowden recalled when his life changed when he released secret National Security Agency documents with journalists.
"It was the most real point of no return," explained Snowden.
And at that point he became the "most wanted man in the world," said Williams.
But wanted for what? Snowden said he wanted to know.
"If this has caused serious harm, I personally would like to know about it," he said. He added that no one in the U.S. government can point to instances of harm caused by Snowden's leaks. And if that's the case, "Is it really so serious?" Snowden wondered.
Snowden also smashed the assumption that he is working with the Russian government since he's been stuck there.
"I have no relationship with the Russian government at all. I'm not supported by the Russian government. I'm not a spy," said Snowden. "I took nothing to Russia so I can't give anything to Russia."
Snowden explained his own history, which included a grandfather who worked at the FBI and a veteran father.
He was actually at Fort Mead outside the NSA on September 11, 2001. After that, he joined the U.S. Army.
"There is some things worth dying for, and I think the country is one of them," he explained.
But he said that the intel used for the War in Iraq was bad.
"I believed the government's arguments that we were going to do good things in Iraq," he said, and added that some things we're told by the government are simply not true.
"Being a patriot means knowing when to protect your Constitution, knowing when to protect your country," he added.
Snowden wants to return home, but not if he's charged under the Espionage Act.
As far as facing the music, he'd like to, but the music he's facing isn't exactly fair.
"The music is not an open court and a fair trial," he added.