Grover Norquist was a guest on the Victoria Taft Show to discuss the ongoing talks regarding the fiscal cliff and he predicts a new wave of the Tea Party is coming. In fact, he said this second wave will dwarf the first one.

Norquist pointed out that Speaker of the House John Boehner has said that the talk are going nowhere and that Barack Obama has put nothing on the table that will rein in spending. McConnell echoed Boehner's words with regards to spending.

Norquist also advanced the same type of negotiations that Senator Jeff Sessions put forth on the floor of the Senate on Thursday and that is that the negotiations should be made public, not private. He said they should be held on C-SPAN.

The point is to expose what is really going on. If these negotiations take place behind closed doors they effectively hurt only one side, the Republicans.

Since Obama claimed that his administration would be the most "transparent" in history, but has failed to be anything of the sort, it would seem this would provide a great opportunity to live up to what he professed. I won't hold my breath though.

In a free society, especially with something like this, that will affect the American people, there should not be closed door negotiations taking place. This should be an open meeting that the American people can sit in on and hear what their representatives are saying and watch what they are doing.

Victoria Taft made reference to George Will referring to the 'fiscal cliff' as the "Democrat plan" which was a very precise statement, due to their desire to let tax cuts expire, while upping spending due to Obamacare and various new deficit spending without any semblance of a budget.

When asked how he responded to a few Republicans who said they would be willing to break the tax pledge and go with tax hikes, Norquist pointed out that "a few were, and they are the same collection of people that were two years ago."

When asked what he thought about the sequester and tax increases going through, he was clear about that stating that it was a good thing if the sequester goes through because it would save $100 billion a year over 10 years. As for the tax increases, Norquist thinks that is a bad idea.

Norquist said that Obama is "over playing his hand" because he "thinks he was made king in the November election." This is why Norquist believes that the talks should be transparent to help win the battle politically and force Obama's hand.

When asked about how he though the Tea Party would factor into all of this, Norquist concluded:

We are about to have a Tea Party second wave that will dwarf the first wave and that is because while 'spend too much' brought the Tea Party into existence, we're about to walk into 'spend too much, regulate too much, and tax too much, all together. It's going to be a perfect storm of annoying government behavior, which is devastating to the economy, and I think the small business community which is particularly hit by Obama's tax increases are going to lead the fight bigger, stronger, tougher than the last Tea Party.

Listen to the interview below:

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