Canadian TV Goes Birther: 62% Say Obama is Not an American Citizen


There are two definitive schools of thought within the "birther" movement. However, more often than not, you are exposed to only one. Not all "birthers" believe that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. In fact, many believe that this is somewhat irrelevant. Many, like myself, believe that since Barack Obama, Sr. was not a citizen of the United States when Barack Obama, Jr. was born that our President may be a "citizen" but that he is a not a "natural born citizen" and thus ineligible to hold the office of President.

Though it is doubtful that you will see any American owned media outlets devoting programs to this debate (seems highly unlikely six years later), Richard Syrett of The Conspiracy Show decided to go where American media refuses to. He devoted an entire episode of his program to this debate and it aired Monday on Canadian television.

Our friends at Birther Report summarize the broadcast:

As reported here Canadian broadcaster Richard Syrett interviewed Attorney Mario Apuzzo, Attorney Phil Berg, computer expert Karl Denninger and Allenna Leonard of Democrats Abroad. The show focused on Obama's forged birth certificate and the Article II natural born Citizen clause in the U.S. Constitution. Full show below…

The host says Birthers that conclude a natural born Citizen is one born on U.S. soil to two U.S. citizen parents (Vattel) stand on pretty solid ground but notes the other side could provide a compelling counter-argument (Blackstone). Syrett said to dismiss Birthers as racist is extremely unfair. He also believes evidence suggesting Obama's birth certificate is a forgery is not conclusive but says it deserves further investigation and serious media scrutiny. Syrett warned viewers that if Obama is not eligible and he forged his birth certificate the United States would be plunged into a constitutional crisis unparalleled in its history. His full conclusion excerpted here…


 

You can watch the entire episode here. .

The debate over the definition of "natural born citizen" has largely been in trying to determine the intentions of our founders. Both sides can roll out historical court decisions to seemingly support their case, but I prefer to start at the beginning. What is perceived as true in 2014 was not necessarily true in 1790. I always encourage people to do their own research. However, in the course of that research I would suggest that you start with our first congress. My interpretation is that BOTH parents must be citizens to create a "natural born citizen." If not, then why the distinction between a simple "citizen" and a "natural born citizen?"

It is a logical question.

For what it is worth, I don't believe that Ted Cruz is eligible either, but you should do your own research and come to your own conclusions.

America will not grow stronger until people begin to think for and educate themselves.

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  • livefree1200cc

    He more than likely isn't a citizen, but whether he is or not is irrelevant. His father wasn't a citizen therefore he is not a 'Natural Born Citizen'. According to the constitutional requirements both parents must be citizens for the child to be a 'Natural Born Citizen'.- therefore he was ineligible to run for POTUS. The ENTIRE Congress knew this and we didn't here a peep about it. They are ALL complicit in this cover-up. THROW them all out of office and start over.

    • Dave B.

      There is no constitutional requirement regarding the parents of a natural born citizen.

  • usmcmailman

    He is a Communist Muslim from Kenya !

  • How Not To Play The Game

    C'mon now. Six years in? A little late to the picnic aren't we? The masses are not asleep, they have been lobotomized. Chemically and propagandistically. No way it could have happened were we not.

  • Sevon7

    If we can prove Barack is not eligible for the Office then everything he and his pathetic Democrat Party has done since he illegally took office should be null and void! We might actually be able to save our Country yet! Of course we still need to get rid of Eric Holder, Harry Reid, Pelosi and John Kerry! Then we need to make sure the witch of Bengal Hillary Clinton never sees the Oval Office or America will continue to degrade! We need politicians that love this country and that's not the Democrats, they consistently blame our country for everything and want to rewrite the Constitution to serve their political agenda and lust for power!

  • bookworm

    Canadians know enough law and they've known enough real Americans to know that legally BO is NOT a natural born citizen, and even if he were, his values, priorities and fundamental principles and ideas are not those of any "real" American the average Canadian has ever met!

  • Renee Amber Hollister

    _

    Fraud / Charlatan / Deceitful - Quack / Con man / Swindler

    Barry soetoro aka barack huϟϟein saebarkah obama

    Or What Ever The Hell his Real Name is......

    ~~>NOT VETTED!!!!!!

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/ap-declares-obama-kenyan-born/

    AP declares Obama Kenyan-Born (And 2008 AP Story
    Repeats the Claim)“What most people know
    is that the Associated Press (AP)
    Is one of the largest, internationally recognized, syndicated
    News services. …In a syndicated report,
    Published ALL THE WAY BACK IN >>Sunday, June 27, 2004,
    By the Kenyan Standard Times, … ‘Kenyan-born
    US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama,
    appeared set to take over the Illinois
    Senate seat after his main rival, After his main rival,
    Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night
    Amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.’”
    “This report explains the context between Obama and
    Keyes in The following Fall, In which Keyes faulted
    OBAMA for NOT being a “Natural Born Citizen”,
    In which Obama, gave his Sarcastic reply....

    >>“SO WHAT? I am running for Illinois Senator,
    NOT the presidency”, Self-admitted
    that he was NOT Eligible For The Office.”

    • Dave B.

      The AP didn't run that story. Feel free to try and come up with a credible reference for that Keyes-Obama story. It never happened.

  • Renee Amber Hollister

    _

    There is an Immense Danger from the onslaught
    of _Ø_ and his Ilk! Come hell or high water _Ø_ is determined to bring

    *America* to her knees and open a Pandora's box
    Of Tragedy, Misery, Suffering, Tears and Pain.

    _Ø_ is doing his Damndest to Dismantle our
    Constitution and Take away any of our Remaining Freedoms.

    And if You Still CAN'T SEE That,
    You Choose To Be BLIND.

    _ Ø _ IS THE ENEMY WITHIN !!!

  • 2shinyshoes

    I don't give a crap where he was born, he keeps that a secret, but the fact that he's a full-blown communist is enough reason to boot his nasty self out of the WH and send him back to Kenya.

    • Dave B.

      He keeps that a secret? How do you figure?

    • 2shinyshoes

      All of his records have been sealed. Catch a clue.

    • Dave B.

      Yeah, no more than yours and mine are "sealed." Oh, wait. He put HIS birth certificate on the internet. I reckon his are LESS "sealed." Never mind.

  • muf69

    It seems that the world knows the truth but seeing that the members of the US Congress have failed to grasp this and perform the duty they are sworn to we as a nation have lost our freedom. We have lost it because we have allowed our Constitution to be violated. We have been dishonored by the very people we had chosen to carry out the laws of our great nation. But my biggest fear that it has set a precedent that will haunt America forever.

  • The Fox

    Seem's those to the north are smarted then we in the States, way to go Canada you have it right but then you don't drink the cool aide of the left wing nut jobs we have here in the U.S.

  • meg

    The world knows and so do all not (low informed) that ovomit is not American And Canada says!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • munkybiznus

    The DAMAGE has been done............About the only GAIN that could be unraveled is nulifieing his past signatures--------------------We STILL live in the world he built for us

    • ssilv48

      munkybiznus, oboma needs to be held accountable for his actions, so does all that stand by his forged papers. All most all of congress, senate and house of rep's need to be tried for treason. Until people are held accountable, the criminal activities will continue.

    • Reba - I'm Ready, Are You?

      Again, Amen!

  • Breezeyguy

    Wikipedia has been scrubbed of any mention of the "both parents" issue. I wonder if the SCOTUS records have been wiped too.

    But yes, as soon as they released that (fake looking) birth certificate showing a Kenyan father, then bingo, not a natural born citizen.

    • John Patriot

      Did you know that Wikipedia is open source so anyone can add, delete or modify?
      It is widely used but not very reliable as a source of uncommon knowledge.

    • Breezeyguy

      Yes, I have contributed to wikipedia. But I didn't have the nerve or the background to hold forth on that topic. If you go to edit it, prepare for a visit from the IRS or worse.

    • John1943

      Especially as Stanley Ann (OBummer ' s mother) was too young (by the law at that time) to convey her citizenship to him. She was under 18, IIRC. OBUMMER would be in a better position if he acknowledged Frank Davis as his father.

    • Dave B.

      There is no such law for persons born in the United States.

    • John1943

      I know, but am not convinced that he was.

    • Dave B.

      Why not?

    • John1943

      For, I imagine, much the same sort of reasons that (according to this article) 62% of Canadians think so too. And if you don't know what these are, you must have been asleep this last decade.

    • Dave B.

      Oh really? Where does the article say that?
      There's no poll that says "62% of Canadians think so too." Anybody, from anywhere, can go to The Conspiracy Show's website and vote as often as they like to indicate whether they're a "Believer" or a "Skeptic" on what they refer to as the "theory" that "Barack Obama is not an American citizen. That's not a poll, it's click bait.
      Are you afraid, or embarrassed, to state your reasons for doubting the President's birth in the United States?

    • Dave B.

      What "both parents" issue? Birthers made that one up in the first place.

    • Breezeyguy

      No, "birthers" were about birthplace. That's, uh, like, why they were labeled "birthers". They weren't labeled "parenters".

    • Dave B.

      There are more than one kind of birthers, including the "two citizen parent" birthers.

    • Breezeyguy

      So all the men who signed the Constitution which says "natural born citizen" were birthers? Isn't "birther" a pejorative?

      Was Emerrich de Vattel a birther? He was French, so I guess you'd call him a naissancer? What kind of naissancer was he, as you said there is more than one kind? Can you list the kinds?

    • Dave B.

      "All the men who signed the Constitution" didn't say anything about "two citizen parents" being a requirement for "natural born citizens." And for that matter, neither did Vattel. That's just a goofy birther interpretation.

    • Breezeyguy

      Yes, I know. Please try to think. They wrote "born". Doesn't that make them birthers? Specifically, the birthplace kind of birthers?

    • Dave B.

      No. Don't go out of your way to be goofier than you already are.

    • Breezeyguy

      Why not? That's a pure irrelevant ad hominem. Please, instead, try to think. Do you define "birther" as someone who questions the location of a candidate's birthplace? So, the court case examining McCain's eligibility was all by "birthers"? What about residency? Are people who question somebody's residence all "residencers"?

    • Dave B.

      Look, if you don't mind asking goofy questions, I don't mind pointing out the goofiness.
      Someone who questions the location of a candidate's birthplace could be a birther. Someone who comes up with a wild and unsupportable story about a candidate's birthplace, contrary to all genuine evidence, is definitely a birther. McCain had his own birthers-- and he had more than one kind, too. For example, there are the McCain birthers who insisted he wasn't born at Coco Solo, but at Colon Hospital. Besides that, there are legitimate legal issues in regard to Senator McCain's citizenship-- both constitutional and statutory issues-- based on the accepted, self-reported facts of his place and date of birth. Personally, I never saw those legal issues as particularly compelling, but they are genuine. Apparently neither the Republican Party nor the public at large found them particularly compelling, either.
      Are you going to keep throwing the goofy questions like that last one in?

    • Breezeyguy

      Compelling? McCain took the issue to the courts. Constitutional eligibility is not some trivial matter.

      And what don't you find compelling about Vattel's opinion on "natural born citizen" meaning born of two citizens? "The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children." Obama's birth certificate says his father was Kenyan. So what do you do now, hurl slurs?

    • Dave B.

      I beg your pardon, but McCain didn't take the issue to the courts. Do you know how this "courts" thing works? In McCain's case, eligibility was more a matter of perception than it ever was of law.

      It's not "Vattel's opinion" that "natural born citizen" means "born of two citizens." That is, I have noted, merely a birther interpretation. And the United States does not go by the misogynist anachronism that "The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children."

    • Breezeyguy

      Interpretation? Can't you read?

    • Dave B.

      Yes, obviously. Point?

    • Breezeyguy

      Have a good weekend.

    • Dave B.

      Same to you.

  • Freedom?

    Of course the debate, the argument isn't dead.. But on the same foot, it is kind of the lesseer of the evils at this point, but still deserves it's day in the sun no doubt.

    the usama bin obama treason, is what we have to contend with now. Usama bin obama has aided foreign enemies in Egypt and Libya BLATANTLY, and has fought for the border to be open

  • John Patriot

    The thing is that barack hussein obama knew he is not a natural born citizen before seeking office; that adds the element of criminal intent to his usurpation of the office. That is also a good reason to have a twelve man firing squad instead of the traditional six.

    • munkybiznus

      One man squad, in the gut with a 22 short-----------one day each until not breathing