Rebel Leader: Many of the Dead Bodies from Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 Crash Weren’t “Fresh”


Sorry to be so grotesque, but there aren’t a lot of other ways to say it.

The Associated Press article floating around the mainstream media in source after source (surely before it gets buried forever) is simply titled, “Rebel Leader Gives Bizarre Account of Plane Crash”.

How bizarre, exactly?

A top pro-Russia rebel commander in eastern Ukraine has given a bizarre version of events surrounding the Malaysian jetliner crashsuggesting many of the victims may have died days before the plane took off.

The pro-rebel website Russkaya Vesna on Friday quoted Igor Girkin as saying he was told by people at the crash site that “a significant number of the bodies weren’t fresh,” adding that he was told they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition. [emphasis added]

Of course, the commander will be immediately discredited by western-backed establishment media sources simply because of which side of this conflict he politically stands on.

Not the point, however.

Bodies drained of blood and reeking of decomposition at a fresh crash site?

Who would even think to make something like that up in the first place?

This story is only bizarre until you consider the fact that this situation might be staged.

That explanation might help explain what’s going on in this video below, supposedly taken of the crash site moments after the plane went down, where a man scatters a handful of what look like brand new, unscathed passports from the Netherlands on the ground.

Again…are they wagging the dog to get us in to wider war?

Sure, President Obama seemed all properly concerned today when he mentioned at a press conference that an American was indeed killed on board MH17 and basically advanced the narrative that “Russia did it”.

He wasn’t all that concerned yesterday — right after the crash happened — when the media thought perhaps 23 Americans had been killed, however…at least not enough to cancel his burger photo op.
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  • ABBAsFernando

    As usual the FASCIST Obama could care LESS!

  • ONTIME

    If there is non co-operation from the Russkies and the perp Uk sepratist, the option of action by arming the legitimate Ukrainian gov to let them confront the rebs with more fire power and authority is a means that would give RazzPutin a ire, put him on notice that it was he who killed those civilians and there is more to come with lack of peacefull intent on his behalf. MRE's do not win a war and they don't taste all that good..Com'on BOB, you be a man now and get some respect...LOL

  • john4637

    What a sick pricx!! Like the world will believe this gibberish! Although it will be food for thought of our American conspiracy nuts who see intrigue in everything!

  • sotiredoflies13

    Why would this airplane even be flying over a active WAR ZONE?? A few minutes to fly around it.

    • http://stevenhager420.wordpress.com/2012/09/30/the-mysterious-saul-alinsky/ Augur Mayson

      The following isn't from me but is from the Malaysia Airlines webpage:

      On the matter of MH17’s flight path, I would like to refer to recent
      reported comments by officials from Eurocontrol, the body which approves
      European flight paths under ICAO rules.

      According to the Wall Street Journal, the officials stated that some
      400 commercial flights, including 150 international flights crossed
      eastern Ukraine daily before the crash. Officials from Eurocontrol also
      stated that in the two days before the incident, 75 different airlines
      flew the same route as MH17.

      MH17’s flight path was a busy major airway, like a highway in the
      sky. It followed a route which was set out by the international aviation
      authorities, approved by Eurocontrol, and used by hundreds of other
      aircraft. It flew at an altitude set, and deemed safe, by the local air
      traffic control. And it never strayed into restricted airspace.
      The flight and its operators followed the rules. But on the ground,
      the rules of war were broken. In an unacceptable act of aggression, it
      appears that MH17 was shot down; its passengers and crew killed by a
      missile.

      from http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/mh17.html
      (Saturday, July 19, 07:20 PM GMT +0800 MH17 Press Briefing By Liow Tiong Lai, Minister of Transport)

  • golfcrackerjack

    How does one know that the video reflects what it's said to reflect? IOW, is the video bogus? I suspect that the story we're getting on this is fairly accurate. BTW, there are numerous anti-aircraft systems that can shoot down a plane at 33000', just not "Stingers" (or similar MANPADS). And as for those who report "advanced state of decomposition," that's hard to verify, esp. coming from someone who likely has no forensic experience and has never seen up-close what the violence of plane crashes can and usually does to human bodies. I have.

  • hankster6

    Terrorists do not require proof!! They will kill a man or woman with accusations. We have no way of proving anything they say, so why publish information that they put out, when it has not been verified and can not be verified!! Of course the liberal media does not need proof either. To them, Americans are too dumb to know any better!

  • aurora9

    If cadavers were placed on board this ship, could they have been from the missing Malaysian plane?

    • trustingonlyinhim

      see my comment above.

  • hAAngarpilot

    The picture of the piece of aircraft fuselage with the windows on it looks to me like the fuselage of a regional jet not a Boeing 777. The window are spaced too far apart for a 777, also the door the kid is standing on is not nearly tall enough to be part of a 777.

  • Patrick Henry

    This has all the hallmarks of a false flag, IMHO.

    • trustingonlyinhim

      A lot of people suspected the potential for a FFO using a B777 when the "1st one" went "missing". Good news though. FOUND IT ! Including the original passengers. Man, the flyers miles they must have racked up.
      Badumpbump.. too soon ?

  • gestr

    This link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2697010/Faces-innocent-victims-Melbourne-real-estate-agent-wife-student-leading-AIDS-doctors-confirmed-dead-Flight-MH17-terrorist-attack-killed-298-people-board.html tells of the body of an infant, supposedly from the downed Malaysian airliner, lying in a field in Ukraine. How is that possible? When the airliner crashed into a Pennsylvania forest on 9-11, US Airways bought the entire tract of forest, and designated it a memorial to the terrorist doomed flight, because it was impossible to recover bodies from the crash. They were obliterated. How did bodies from this crash stay intact?

    • trustingonlyinhim

      In a word, convenience. They needed them to. On 9/11 people were too focused on NYC to realize that something was amiss in Somersett like say wreckage, bodies, etc.

  • gestr

    The rebels would have needed months to train on the sophisticated anti-aircraft missile system they supposedly stole last week. And would the rebel commander really communicate with his men by posting their moves (i.e., downing a plane) on facebook??? In English? Are we being Sandy Hooked? Why didn't the media (in their daily reporting, for weeks on end) bother to investigate what Navy had guided missile frigates in the area where the first Malaysian airliner went down over the open ocean?

  • Charles_Higley

    From my experience, expired passports have holes punched in them to show that they are not longer valid. Some of the passports in the video here have just such holes. What with that?

  • dj

    This is an interesting development. I wondered myself why the video shows a ground explosion but no sigh of an aircraft plummeting to the ground. This development don't pass the smell test. The Russians spirited away the orange boxes to Moscow, the alleged witness claims about the bodies,the rebels interfering with crash site investigation. The information don't add up.
    Most of the media are gonna wind up with egg on their faces. This could be staged to cover up the first Malaysian 777. Russia could have shot this 777 down and trying to blame the rebels or could have been on board bomb. Very fishy if there's any truth to this story.

  • The OGS

    Read up on "Operation Northwoods" (which is on the Wiki).
    Then tell me the desperados in Washington didn't engineer this whole thing...

  • Guest

    The Russian made Buk missle system can down aircraft flying as high as 46,000 feet. They used it to shoot down the U-2 at 50,000 feet. It's laser guided and radar controlled. Reports were one of the Buk units was seen driving into the area the day before the downing.

  • trustingonlyinhim

    When I saw all the undamaged passports on the news, it pegged my BS meter & I immediately thought back to the passports they claim to have found at ground zero on 9/11.
    The industrial war machine rolls on.
    The old song War Pigs comes to mind.

    • Darrell Maynard

      For someone trustingonlyinhim you sure are paranoid about things we have no control over. Please put this in His capable hands and don't subscribe to the hysteria. May God Bless You

    • trustingonlyinhim

      Is it paranoia if it's true ? I have no control over most things in life but it doesn't mean I have to be ignorant to the world around me. Nor does my faith dictate that I bury my head in the sand to the events simply because I can not control them. Therefore I choose to pay attention.

  • http://der-stuermer.org/english/what_is_a_jew.htm Augur Mayson

    What kind of missile could hit a moving plane 6 miles up in the sky? When
    you think of allegedly pro-Russian rebels, knowing that Russia hasn't
    actually invaded Ukraine, such that they don't have modern surface-to-air
    missile batteries set up there, you'd imagine maybe some rebels with, at
    best, a shoulder mounted Stinger missile. A Stinger missile can't reach that high.
    We're supposed to believe they shot down a moving plane 6 miles up in the sky?
    Seems nigh on impossible. Bomb sounds more likely.

    Also, remember that Malaysian Airlines plane that
    vanished earlier this year?

    That was a Boeing-777 too.

    Remember how everyone was wondering what
    happened to it and the people on it? If this guy said the
    bodies were in an advanced state of decomposition, long dead before the
    plane came down, then this was maybe that first Malaysian Airlines
    plane that went missing. The rotting corpses inside were maybe the
    original passengers of that disappeared plane.

    • trustingonlyinhim

      I see I'm not the only one that smells something amiss. but the puppet masters & media are not about to let pesky little things like the truth get in the way of a good war.
      Remember, if it bleeds it leads.

    • http://der-stuermer.org/english/what_is_a_jew.htm Augur Mayson

      Yes, they've quickly come out with two different narratives that spin things in the opposite direction from this theory, or perhaps closer to the truth, whichever the case may be. The Israel/US-backed regime in Kiev is saying that 1, the missile was fired from a Buk missile system, a system they say could reach that high in the sky, and that 2, the reason the bodies were so badly putrefied was because they were sitting out in the sun. But it's only been one day.

      I want to see a team of Russian, or maybe Chinese, scientists do DNA tests to determine the ethnicity of the victims aboard this plane. Lets see if they were mostly Chinese like the victims of the first one or mostly Dutch like the alleged victims of this one.

    • trustingonlyinhim

      If it is indeed something global than all of the governments involved will follow the scripts they have been handed & will do as their masters tell them to. Remember the real power rests behind the throne.

    • Juggernaut3000

      IOW, they're throwing everything up against the kitchen wall to see what sticks.

      So many similarities to 9/11 - readable passports found when everything else was obliterated, children's games - in English - and toys "found" in the rubble without a scratch on them to tug at heartstrings and unscathed luggage looking like new with no sign that it had been through an explosion and fallen from 33,000 feet.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2697010/Faces-innocent-victims-Melbourne-real-estate-agent-wife-student-leading-AIDS-doctors-confirmed-dead-Flight-MH17-terrorist-attack-killed-298-people-board.html

      Great tactic to confuse the public, divert attention away from the non-white MS-13 invasion disguised as a "children's crusade" in the US before the midterm elections and, importantly, to blame Putin. As Mike King from Tomato Bubble points out:

      "Notice how the Times, or rather, the 'American officials' quoted in the first propaganda piece, make it a point to say that the missile believed to have brought down a Malaysian airliner, 'might have been Russian made.' One could just as easily speculate that it was 'European made' or 'American made,' right? But the fix is already in to blame Putin for this mysterious tragedy.

      Great photos here:

      thttp://www.tomatobubble.com/id620.htm

    • Gillian C.

      Amazing how indestructible passports seem to be and how readily accessible they always are amid the destruction. They think we are that stupid and gullible. To be fair though, the majority of people are extremely stupid and easily fed the official line.

    • Juggernaut3000

      Yes. I have found myself in furious arguments over the events of 9/11 with those who insist that the government's story line is 100% correct: that 9/11 was carried out by a bunch of Arabs with Saudi passports and funded entirely by Osama Bin Ladin, wh
      ich therefore justified an invasion of Iraq.

      I remember the new-looking passport, supposedly from one of th
      e planes "found" intact on a street in NYC.

      A perfectly useable passport found on the sidewalk - but NO black boxes recovered from any of the four planes. Right.

      A number of years ago, Southwest Flight 11 slammed into the California hills at 770 mph yet the black boxes from that flight were recovered with data intact.

    • Gillian C.

      I too used to get into arguments with those who believe the official version of 9/11. Then I came to realise that it's a pointless exercise.
      I tend to ignore them now. The stupid will always remain stupid and have been well and truly brainwashed by the main stream Zio controlled media.
      The good thing is that it only needs a relatively small percentage of awakened people to make a difference. The majority of the sheeple will then just go with the flow.

    • Juggernaut3000

      As I've said repeatedly on other sites: Not all whites are worth saving.

      When the time comes, and it will come, many will and should be left behind.

      We can’t save everyone and shouldn’t waste our time on those who are impervious to the grave danger we Whites face from our main enemy.

      Useful idiots are always the first to go, as well it should be.

    • Gillian C.

      It did cross my mind that maybe these were the bodies from the plane that went missing a few months ago. But then I thought, well surely they would have been kept in a freezer! I think I'd be more suspicious if these recent bodies showed signs of being frozen. Who knows?
      Have you seen DD's latest video on the Israel/Gaza thing? It's very good.

    • Juggernaut3000

      Here’s an incredible article from the past week.

      http://www.darkmoon.me/2014/the-death-camps-to-come-by-ellie-katsnelson/

    • Gillian C.

      That is a very interesting and scary article. Thank you for posting the link. I shall read it again later.

      It seems to me that many ordinary people or non-jews, tend to back the Zionists because they are sh!t scared of Islamism and the so called Caliphate.

      I just don't think that mulims/islamists are that well organised and couldn't form a Caliphate. The Caliphate is a red herring, put out there to garner support for Zionism.

      The Saudi rulers or 'Royal family' are Wahhabist, i.e. not islamist.
      Saudi Arabia and Israel are 'sisters'.

    • TexasTemplar

      The Russian made Buk missle system can down aircraft flying as high as 46,000 feet. They used it to shoot down the U-2 at 50,000 feet. It's laser guided and radar controlled. Reports were one of the Buk units was seen driving into the area the day before the downing. I would be willing to BET the bodies are those of the passengers of the previous MH 777 hijacking.

    • earlwatters

      what do you think this is the twilight zone.get real

    • http://www.obamasucks.tv/ John - Atlanta

      I had the same thought, I thought maybe the leader was trying to redirect blame, then I thought, why would a war monger make a statement such as that, that could be easily verified as not being true.

    • http://LiberalPandemic.wordpress.com/ Peter Pocket

      Vietnam Era SA-2, for starters. In 1960, an SA-2 (actually, several of them) damaged Francis Gary Power's U2 plane and forced him to bail out.

      At the time, It was crusing at 61,000 ft. when hit. SA-2 has range of 400 miles. Nowadays SA-500's are Russia's newest anti-ballistic missile - travelling at hypersonic speeds, can fire 40 separate warheads to create cloud of destruction. BUT, SA-11's can also be equipped w/ nuclear warheads.

  • margo1942

    staged it looks like