Running The Numbers On DHS' Ammo Purchases


I provided you a response from the Department of Homeland Security on Saturday concerning the large number of rounds of ammunition that they are soliciting for. I continue to leave it up to the reader to determine if they think DHS' response is truthful or not. However, their response came just two days after they solicited for 360,000 more .40 caliber hollow point bullets. DHS told us these are for training purposes and, in fact, these are being sent to the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Artesia, New Mexico, which is the same location that 240,000 hollow points were sent to last month. However, I want to provide you with more details that DHS has put in print and ask some questions.

The current solicitation can be found on the Federal Business Opportunities website and you will notice that the "Bid MUST be good for 30 calendar days after close of Buy." So this purchase is not one of those "over five years" kinds of purchase.

Several congressmen have pushed DHS on these purchases, which resulted in the response from DHS, including fifteen that banded together to get answers. Some of which were not addressed.

With that in mind, Senator Tom Coburn (R-Ok) says that DHS has not purchased anymore ammunition than they have previously. "I think if you go through it (the purchases) without fear and actually make a judgment, I think they're doing exactly what they need to do." Coburn has a good history of pointing out the wasteful spending of government and I don't believe for a second that he is attempting to cover for DHS.

However, that does not explain why within the past year there have been solicitations for "up to" nearly 2 billion rounds when according to Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Ga, her training center and others like it that are run by DHS use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises. The argument that it keeps costs down doesn't make sense if you are only purchasing between ten and twenty percent of what you are soliciting for.

Coburn's comments come after he wrote to DHS back in November of 2012. In that letter Sen. Coburn asked five questions:

  1. How many rounds of ammunition has the Department purchased during each of the last three fiscal years? How much did these acquisitions cost?
  2. Does DHS plan to purchase more ammunition in the current fiscal year? How much is budgeted for ammunitions acquisitions?
  3. How many rounds of ammunition does the Department currently have in its inventory? How are these rounds allocated to each of its agencies?
  4. Please describe how DHS (and its component agencies) plan to use this ammunition. How many rounds are allocated for training? How many are allocated for operational use? How many rounds are allocated for other purposes?
  5. Please detail approximately how many rounds DHS and its component agencies have used for training and operational purposes during the past three fiscal years.

DHS responded to Coburn in a letter and indicated their purchases were actually going down. DHS points out that 148 million rounds of ammo were purchased in 2010, with that number going down to 108 million in 2011 and 103 million in 2012.

The DHS letter contains the following for the past three fiscal years:

The legend for the various agencies mentioned are as follows: CBP=US Customs and Border Protection; FLETC=Federal Law Enforcement Training Center; NPPD/FPS=National Protection and Programs Directorate/ Federal Protective Service; ICE=US Immigration and Customs Administration; TSA=Transportation Security Administration; USCG=US Coast Guard; USSS=US Secret Service.

In answer to plans for purchasing more ammunition in the current fiscal year, DHS did not answer. However, they did provide a budget which is almost $700,000 more than FY2012.

Now pay close attention here. An inventory was provided among the agencies, as of November 20, 2012. This would be shortly after fiscal year 2013 began on October 1, 2012:

DHS then provides how the ammunition is used by the agencies under its authority.

CBP: Approximately 70 percent of the CBP ammunition is used for quarterly qualifications, mandated firearms training, advanced firearms training, as well as testing and evaluation. Twenty percent of the CBP ammunition is allocated to maintaining CBP's operational posture. This includes rounds for duty use, as well as for maintaining CBP's special response teams. The remaining 10 percent is dedicated to maintaining ammunition reserves at both the national and local levels.

FLETC: All FLETC ammunition is purchased, distributed, and used for law enforcement training. No ammunition is allocated for operational or other use.

NPPD/FPS: FPS allocates 1,000 rounds of ammunition per firearm per year for quarterly qualifications and training, to included advanced firearms training exercises, as well as ammunition to support law enforcement operations.

ICE: ICE allocates 1,000 rounds of ammunition per firearm per year for quarterly qualifications and training, to include advanced firearms training exercises, special response team training, and ammunition to support law enforcement operations.

TSA: Approximately 21 million rounds of TSA's current inventory are reduced-hazard, lead-free frangible training ammunition, which is used exclusively for training. The remaining rounds are duty ammunition, which hare used for both training and operational purposes. Overall, approximately 35 percent of TSA ammunition is allocated for operational use (qualifications and duty carry). Fewer than 100,000 rounds are used for other purposes annually, including firearms testing and evaluation.

USCG: USCG allocates its ammunition inventory for Non-Combat Expenditure Allowance (NCEA) and ship-fill purposes. The NCEA, available for both shore units and cutters, is used for training and for non-defense operations including maritime law enforcement operations. USCG ship-fill allowances are specific to cutters and are designed for use on defense operations.

USSS: USSS plans to use the above mentioned ammunition for training, research, and operational use as needed to maintain professional firearms proficiency. Based on a review of recent historical data, USSS plans to allocate approximately 60 percent of the ammunition for training, 38 percent for operational use, and 2 percent for quality control testing of all ammunition and function firing of all new and repaired weapons.

Finally DHS answered how many rounds they allocated over the past three fiscal years for training and operational purposes.

Here are some things to note. First, we are not told hold much of this ammunition has been exhausted from year to year. For instance, you will note that just into FY2013 they claimed a total inventory of nearly 264 million rounds and yet had still budgeted to spend over $37 million in the current fiscal year on ammunition.

Let me also make a comparison here. Take the numbers above and let's total them out by department per fiscal year.

DHS Components

Total Round Purchased In FY2010-2012

Total Inventory

CBP

141,624,536

94,404,329

FLETC

61,131,009

18,797,942

FPS/NPPD

11,692,000

2,500,000

ICE

66,494,000

42,300,000

TSA

37,800,000

29,909,514

USCG

28,853,241

70,258,197

USSS

13,956,460

5,563,380

Total DHS

361,551,246

263,733,362

 

Now I ask you, what is wrong with this picture? Over the past three fiscal years, DHS has purchased over 361 million rounds of ammunition, according to them, but they still have nearly 264 million rounds in inventory at the beginning of FY2013 and are ready to spend $37,263,698 on more ammunition this year. In other words, at the end of three fiscal years they still maintained 73% of the total number of rounds purchased over the prior three years. While I can certainly understand maintaining a small percentage of supply, I don't understand the amount still on hand after these purchases. It could be that they had larger quantities before 2010.

However, DHS has claimed that they do not maintain ammunition, but use it. The numbers say something different.

Granted, I do not have information prior to FY2010, which would greatly help us ascertaining what exactly is going on with ammunition purchases, there is one question that stand out to me above others. Since DHS has nearly 264 million rounds on hand, why do they need to purchase ammunition at all for at least two years? After all, in 2012, they only purchased a little over 103 million rounds.

Also, while I understand the need to carry hollow points, for training full metal jacket ammunition is just fine and should be at a lower cost to tax payers. Additionally, all of this should be questioned in light of DHS releasing aggravated felons, claiming it was a result of sequestration.

While these numbers are not the 1.6 billion that have been solicited, they are still large quantities of ammunition. DHS could not provide me with the information to go further back than FY2010, which would be necessary to give a completely accurate account of their purchases over the past decade to compare with their current inventory. If anyone has that information or where it can be obtained, I'll revise this article. However, I wonder if there should not be an independent audit of the ammunition purchased. What say you?

UPDATE: This interview explains what takes place in contracts with the government and the control process of buying ammunition.

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  • howe joseph

    I sent a detailed email to Senator Cornyn (R-TX) and his reply stated that DHS has not exceeded normal amounts of ammo purchases and there was no reason for him to believe there was a conspiracy to hoard ammo for other than normal homeland defense. He also said that DHS does not have a fleet of MRAPS (Armored vehicles) as suggested by one of the conservative web sites, so while I have my suspicions I have to find more hard evidence before I can enlighten my family and friends. I feel uneasy with the new paradigm of NDAA, NSA, the arming of IRS agents to enforce tax laws, the scandals with ATF gun running, Holder refusing to enforce laws on the books and a President who thinks he can bypass the peoples elected Congress using his executive fiat.

    • TNUGA

      After at first believing the 1.6 to 2 billion number, I've arrived at the same conclusion as your Senator.
      As to the NSA, IRS, Benghazi stuff, there's some clear evidence there, so I still don't trust the BHO administration.
      I've spent 8 months researching the ammo issue, compiling a database of DHS solicitation since 2004. The Coburn numbers above are consistent with the solicitations and DHS procedures, i think that they are pretty accurate. Therefore, DHS purchases about 1% of the ammo and they're purchasing less than 2 years ago. Our shortage isn't due to DHS purchases, but it is due to BHO. It's due to all of us gun owners buying up ammo in response to his desire to impose new gun laws,

  • BajaDreamer

    Looks to me like the DHS has got some 'splainin' to do!

  • coalers123

    Is there not employees of these agengies that can verify that all this "practice" at the range is going on?Does not mean that a specifac person needs to be there at all times.The people at the different agencies talk to each other no?I can't beleive that a person that works for say social security does not know that not only him/her self is training at the range more than usual but also other freinds in the dept. are training too.Training and not going to your regular job has ALWAYS been a catching up with talking with employees that don'y see eachother that often.At least that is what happens at ANY place I ever worked

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003018635887 Dem Slow

    Buying nearly 2 Billion rounds under the argument that it keeps costs down is nonsense when Government is 16 Trillion dollars in Debt and running Trillion dollar annual deficits.

    Government / DHS does not have the funds to be buying 100 year supply of training ammo.

    If DHS now needs 10 times more training ammo per year than in past years, then it is time to fire 90% of DHS employees. 1/10th as many employees, means 1/10th as much training ammo is needed.

  • jarnkm

    As Usual ... They Always Lie!!! They know that those who can afford to "stock up" are doing so and they are going to get everything that they can, NOW!! Also, the hollow point ammunition was not allowed for wartime use many decades ago. The only reason for its use, is to insure a more probable "kill", than does 'HARD BALL'. Personally, I'd like to see it all just blow up in their faces.

  • TAM44

    Our government has the most evil vile sissified BOY barack hussein obama who is anti God, anti America, anti Christians, anti our Constitution, anti our Military. the government is made up of tax cheats, liars from hell, illegals, communist, felons, and DEMONCRATS who would kill their own children for power.

    With guns, we are citizens, without them we are subjects.

  • SUSANM621

    ALL I WILL SAY IS.
    ''SOMETHING BIG IS COMING DOWN''

  • http://twitter.com/lucitee4 Luci Tomlin

    Is this what was meant by David Horowitz in his book: "Barack 0'Bamas rules for revolution"? The Alinsky model?. "The strategy of working within the system until you can accumulate enough power to destroy it, boring from within"? Like ravenous and destructive termites, eating away at the "foundation" of a structure in expectations that once the insects have been ignored and allowed to eat FAR enough and LONG enough, the entire structure will collapse in on itself?

  • http://www.facebook.com/tncdel Tnc Del

    So WHY ISN'T RAND PAUL DEMANDING ANSWERS?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stan-Burton/100000422071551 Stan Burton

    FMJ's are not only cheaper than hollow points but are safer to use at indoor ranges in order to limit the amount of lead dust generated.

  • creeper

    Hollow points for practice? HOLLOW POINTS??? They're either squandering more of our money or getting ready to kill us. There just no other possible conclusion.

    • TNUGA

      Do you have any idea what the DHS is paying for 40 cal hollow points? How much more are they actually paying for HP? Do you even have any idea?

  • Seeker1212

    Very confusing, when you consider the volume of ammunition used by TSA, a domestic organization, they use the same amount of ammunition each year, 12,600,000 rounds, from 2010 through 1012, of which 4,400,000 are used for operations.

    Did they shoot those 4 million rounds, and if so how many travelers did they have to kill with those 4 million rounds, or did they clandestinely transfer some of those rounds to another department or group, or did they sell under the table those rounds for their own personal gains??

    • vet

      I don't fly but from the pictures of the TSA that I have seen they don't even carry a weapon.

    • TNUGA

      Most of the ammo used by TSA is used by the Federal Air Marshals. It's not likely that you will ever see their weapons, not will you even know they are on the plane.

      You're looking at the wrong pictures.