New Yorkers Take Aim At Cuomo's SAFE Act


Citizens and local authorities are waking up to the tyranny that is rearing it's ugly head in the United States today. On Thursday, the Oswego County Legislature approved a resolution against parts of New York State's new gun laws. The measure passed by a unanimous vote (25-0)!

The measure says the new Safe Act has a severe impact on guns that are used for safe recreation. It argues that state lawmakers didn’t have enough time to review it before it was passed.

A copy of the resolution will be on its way to both Barack Obama and New York Governor Andrew Cuomo.

The resolution also encourages public hearings to be held by lawmakers and encourages the representatives of Oswego County to submit written opinions about the SAFE Act.

Oswego is not the first to do this. Madison and Herkimer counties have already passed similar resolutions and Ontario is poised to follow.

"We were just standing up for our constituents," Terry Wilbur, a legislator from Hannibal who is only 21, making him one of the youngest ever elected representatives to Oswego County Legislature, said Thursday.

"There are parts that are good, but there are parts that are bad," he said. "We're pretty disgusted with some of this."

While he still promotes background checks and mental health screenings for firearms purchases, he says the overall law will do more harm than good.

"The fact of the matter is all of this is going to hurt law-abiding citizens," he said.

He was also concerned about the county being able to pay for labor to carry out the state's law.

"This is just us in Oswego County saying ... 'This isn't good for us at all,'" Wilbur said.

Oswego County Sheriff Reuel Todd said,

“The Constitution itself was not written in three days; there is no reason overnight to trample it,” he said. “As it is right now, the way that bill is written and passed, my guys could have seven bullets in their magazines to fight against a guy that was heavily armed with 50 in his. The ordinary citizens of this country deserve the right to be able to protect themselves. The criminals are not going to bring in nor register their guns.”

Resident Joel Graham pointed out that only a handful of the murders in the state were committed “with long guns or those being attacked and labeled as assault weapons.” He wondered why there was such a rush to judgment to disarm law abiding citizens from those types of weapons.

“Look at the woman in Georgia when the guy invaded her house, going after her two kids. She went running into her closet and she unloaded five rounds into him. He still got up and walked away. She gets one more (and he doesn’t get away),” he said.

Rick McDermott, a representative “of many sportsman organizations throughout the state and county,” said he supports the county’s efforts.

He told legislators, “The Constitution allows us the right to keep and bear arms for many more reasons than what was stated by the governor in his State of the State speech. It is not about hunting. It is not about target shooting. It is about defending our rights and a free America."

“The governor has violated the constitution of the state of New York,” McDermott said.

McDermott also pointed out that at the time of the founding of the nation, there were three types of militia. Today we know two of them as the US military and the National Guard. But there is a third.

“The third militia is the people. The people need to be there to defend the state and themselves when all the rest of forces are gone. The state is actually negligent in providing that service to us – but they are very negligent in that they are eliminating that with the current law,” he continued. “This law that was passed; passed in the dark of night."

Oh my friends there are patriots abounding that are standing up for liberty and the Constitution. They will not have the law of the land trampled under foot by zealous, emotional politicians who would violate the law through means of unlawful laws in order to make themselves look good and place a feeling of security around the people they govern, while not providing a shred of security for them. They are moving in the direction of slavery, not liberty. They are making the people vulnerable, not secure or safe.

It's good to see counties like Oswego and others standing up for the law and for liberty against the tyrants in New York's government. Take heart, it isn't just happening there, but around the country!

UPDATE:A reader of Freedom Outpost who is actively involved in standing against Governor Cuomo's gun legislation wrote to inform me:

We had over 130 people attend a presentation last Saturday in Watertown, given by Bob Schulz and Judith Whitmore from We The People of NY (www.wethepeopleofny.org). The presentation was regarding a lawsuit that Mr. Schulz drafted, seeking a ruling from the court that the new law be held unconstitutional (both federal and state), based on the false emergency claimed by the Governor in his “Message of Necessity” – thereby an abuse of his power under the state constitution, and the violation of the 2nd Amendment and Article XII of the state constitution, regarding the militia.

Most everyone who attended, signed on as a plaintiff, as well as another 45 or so the next day at a local sportsman's club. (Watertown is in Jefferson county at the eastern end of Lake Ontario and about 1 hour north of Syracuse).

On Feb. 21st, We The People of NY will begin taking signatures from people across the state on an formal petition for redress of grievances. This will not be your typical petition, but a well written, legally based challenge to the NYS Legislature to hear our complaints and take action to address them. See more on the wethepeopleofny.org website.

On Feb. 28th, there will be the 5th Annual NYS Rifle and Pistol Association Legislative Day in Albany and it looks like it will be massive, with buses being chartered across the state. Find out more here.

He also provided me with an update map of counties, posted on his Facebook page, that he has found information on who are seeking to basically nullify Cuomo's gun grab law.

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  • Freedom-Fighters

    What do you expect. NY Gov. thinks he is "hitlers" second in command. He does not care about the people only about his pathetic ego and he wants to make his master obama proud. It's gonna take more than a petition, although I am glad to see some Northerners waking up. This idiot started with how big of a drink you can buy now it's guns-what's next -those that are sick or elderly will not get any medical help cause it's a waste of money because they are going to die anyway? Don't laugh, it's on his agenda. Everyone laughed when we warned you about him telling you what size soda pop you CAN have and what size you CAN'T have. He has declared martial law on you and nobody seems to realize it cause it under the guise of "It's good for you or it's for your own safety".

  • The Rockland Eagle

    ROCKLAND COUNTY JOINS THE RANKS OF COUNTIES DEMANDING THE REPEAL OF THE NYS SAFE ACT!
    In a packed room where over 30 people (Veterans, Police & Sheriffs (active & retired), citizens, men & women, those who own guns and those who don't ) spoke passionately, eloquently, armed with facts and history in favor of our Second Amendment Rights, a group of 10 bi-partisan County Legislators voted to demand the repeal of the SAFE ACT!

    Sparaco Resolution To Repeal NY SAFE Act Passes With Overwhelming Bipartisan Support

    Rockland County Legislator Frank Sparaco proposed and passed a groundbreaking resolution calling for the repeal of aspects of Governor Cuomo's recently passed NY SAFE Act. The controversial SAFE Act included many onerous requirements and restrictions on gun ownership, and the resolution proposed by Legislator Sparaco called for their repeal.

    The lawful ownership of firearms is, and has been, a valued tradition in Rockland County, and the rights protected by the Second Amendment to the Constitution are exercised by many of our residents.

    Many State Legislators had less than an hour to read the legislation before being forced to vote on it. We are concerned that there is no possible way any individual could have read the entire bill and understood its full implications prior to voting on it, and our State Legislators most certainly could not have had the time to request, and receive, the input of their constituents regarding this matter or to hold public hearings.

    Seeking such public input is a standard to which we hold ourselves in the Rockland County Legislature. This legislation has 60 sections, of which only three take effect immediately, and we say there was no reason for the Governor to use a message of necessity to bring this bill to vote immediately and bypass the three day maturing process for all legislation.

    Requiring law-abiding gun owners to verify ownership of certain types of firearms every five years, in addition to registering them on their permits, which now also must be renewed every 5 years, does not increase the safety of the public and is unnecessarily burdensome to the residents of New York. There will be a significant financial impact due to the approximately 16,000 Rockland County permits that will have to be renewed requiring additional manpower and computer systems.

    The Sheriffs Association of New York has recommended that the SAFE Act be amended to include: 1) exemptions for purchases of ammunition by law enforcement for training purposes; 2) a clearer definition of assault weapons based on its function rather that its features; and 3) provisions including local law enforcement in the review and implementation of school safety plans.

    The NY SAFE Act prohibits the sale of firearm magazines with a capacity larger than seven rounds. Limiting the number of rounds to seven versus ten is arbitrary and capricious, has no correlation to public safety, unfairly burdens law-abiding gun owners, and puts an undue burden on gun manufacturers to retool their manufacturing plants.

    The NY SAFE Act makes New York the first state to track ammunition purchases in real time. It forces dealers to register all ammunition with the state police, with each sale requiring a background check and transmission of record of the sale to state police. The dealers must maintain sale of ammunition records for one year. Further, requiring background checks and records to be maintained for sale of ammunition is burdensome on businesses and has no correlation to public safety and welfare.

    The NY SAFE Act places increased burdens squarely on the backs of law-abiding citizens, and may in fact turn countless New York State law-abiding gun owners into criminals. The manner in which this legislation was brought forward for vote in the State Legislature is deeply disturbing to Rockland County.

    The County Legislature opposes and requests the repeal of the sections within the SAFE Act, which infringe on the constitutional right of the people to keep and bear arms.

    "It is a great day for Rockland County. Levelheaded Republicans and Democrats came together to oppose Governor Cuomo's hastily passed and onerous gun law. We're sending a clear message to the state representatives from Rockland who ignorantly voted for this bill, and as representatives of people from across Rockland, we demand that they now work to repeal it," said Legislator Sparaco.

    Legislators Carey, Earl, Jobson, Meyers, Murphy, Paul, Soskin, Schoenberger, and Wieder joined Legislator Sparaco in support of this resolution. Five legislators voted against the resolution.

    “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.”
    Thomas Paine

  • Mike Slaney

    New Yorkers need to start "taking aim" at their leadership!

  • David

    Fair enough, but you didn’t answer the other quotes.
    For actual balanced approach to our Christian founders and their history visit this link:
    http://www.wallbuilders.com/libissuesarticles.asp?id=63

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org Ted R. Weiland

    “It can not be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ!”

    There is no primary source for this quotation. Even David Barton pulled it from his website. And, don't forget Patrick Henry refused to attend the Constitutional Convention, stating "He smelt a rat!"

    For anyone interested in a balanced approach to the principle framers' religious beliefs (they were neither Deists in the purest sense of the word, nor were they Christians in the Biblical sense of the word), see Dr. Albert Mohler's recent interview with Dr. Gregg Frazer at http://www.albertmohler.com/2012/09/10/what-did-america%E2%80%99s-founders-really-believe-a-conversation-with-historian-gregg-frazer-transcript/.

    Dr. Mohler is President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and Dr. Frazer is Professor of History at the Master's College in California.

  • David

    Patrick Henry also said “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government – lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.”
    Looks like he thought the Constitution would do the job after all.

    And he thought this nations was founded by Christians, true followers of Jesus too:

    “It can not be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ!”

    He even told us how to keep it this way:
    “Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who comes near that precious jewel. Unfortunately, nothing
    will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined.”

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org Ted R. Weiland

    In response to Antifederalist: Your research, deductions, and insight are outstanding.

    Following is some more from many patriots' favorite founder, Patrick Henry. Too bad more people don't align with his and the other antifederalists' more Biblically alligned postions:

    “…Except for the phrase ‘execute the laws of the union,’ the Constitution [in Section 8, Clause 15 of Article 1] has finally provided something compatible with the Bible: a militia composed of able-bodied men for the defense of themselves, their families, their communities, and their nation. However, Patrick Henry found good reason for concern with Congress’ control over the militia:

    ‘…this government … does not leave us the means of defending our rights, or of waging war against tyrants…. Have we the means of resisting disciplined armies, when our only defense, the militia, is put into the hands of congress?’ (Patrick Henry, quoted in William Wirt, Sketches of the Life and Character of Patrick Henry (Ithaca, NY: Andrus, Gauntlett, & Co., 1850) p. 195.)….”

    Excerpted from Chapter 4 “Article 1: Legislative Usurpation” of “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective” at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt4.html:

  • http://www.America-Betrayed-1787.com AntiFederalist

    It is very heartening to hear of these and other local officials starting to stand up against this deceptive power grab. Unfortunately, I don't think some of the statements in the article can be supported by reliance on the U.S. Constitution, in particular the statement about the "third militia.".

    I wish it was true, but the terrifying fact is that our forefathers gave away most of our powers of self-defense when they ratified the Constitution in 1787. Here are some excerpts from an article explaining this at: https://historymythbusters.wordpress.com/2012/09/25/mythbusters-case19-the-feds-own-the-militia-we-gave-it-to-them/

    Read through Article I of the U.S. Constitution and write down all the powers related to defense that the states gave away to Congress. Never mind, I did it for you. Here’s the list of supposedly “limited powers” related to defense that “we the people” turned over to the national government in 1788.

    Congress has authority to:

    To lay & collect taxes…for the common defense
    To declare war….
    To raise & support armies
    To provide & maintain a navy
    To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces
    To provide for the calling forth the militia

    1) to execute the laws of the Union

    2) to suppress insurrections

    3) to repel invasions

    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia
    To provide for governing such part of them [the militia] as may be employed in the service of the United States
    To make all laws which shall be necessary & proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States

    States have authority to:

    Appointment of the officers [of the militia]
    Training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress

    States are specifically forbidden to:

    … keep troops, or ships of war, in time of peace
    …engage in war, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent danger as will not admit of delay.

    The central government has 13 positive powers related to “defense,” compared to the states two positives and two negatives. Do the algebra and that is 13 to zero in favor of the central government. They are no doubt smirking, “All of the power related to the militia belongs to us, but we’ll let you do all the heavy lifting of training them for us.” What a deal!

    According to the Constitution the states can’t even defend themselves without permission from the Federal Congress. It would appear that anybody relying on the United States Constitution for defense against Federal tyranny needs to readjust their thinking cap.

    The Bill of Rights never repealed the above powers. Does the 2nd Amendment’s call for a well-regulated militia, overturn the power delegated to Congress in Article I for “organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia…”? It doesn't seem to do that.

    Conservatives like to boast that these are part of the “limited, delegated powers” that were granted to the Federal government in Article I. Everything not listed here is reserved to the states or to the people. Very comforting. The big question is, what is not listed here? Certainly not the right to regulate the militia.

    Try this test: you have 1 minute to write down 1 legitimate, Biblical power of government that is not included on the list in Article I. OK, time’s up………Maybe you need more than a minute?

    Unfortunately, the Constitution doesn’t allow for the well-regulated militia to be organized legally under one’s own county sheriff or state governor, as many would like us to believe. This is one of the main reasons that Patrick Henry so adamantly opposed the Constitution in the Virginia Ratifying Convention.

    As he stated on June 9, 1788: “Are we at last brought to such an humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense?…. The power of arming the militia, and the means of purchasing arms, are taken from the states by the paramount powers of Congress….”

    Three cheers for those local officials who are taking a stand, but unfortunately even the Biblical right of interposition has been stripped from us by Lincoln's unCivil War. It is time to repent before God and return to the bedrock of liberty found in the higher law in passages such as Psalm 149:6,7ff: "Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand, to execute vengeance on the nations..."

  • http://CAPTCHA John

    New Yorkers are getting exactly what the deserve. They are the most liberal of the liberal. Keep voting democrat and pretty soon, you will be slaves, as you deserve.

  • wminaz

    Can you still own a hammer in NY ?