Sheriff Pulls Business From Dana Safety Supply Because They Stopped Selling Semi-Automatic Rifles To Civilians


Dana Safety Supply, a major distributor of weapons and accessories to police departments and civilians across the United States, has declared that they will no longer sell semi-automatic rifles to civilians. Instead, they will only sell to law enforcement. This prompted Oconee County, Georgia Sheriff Scott Berry to write them an email in which he told them he would no longer be seeking them out to purchase products for his department based on their decision.

This sign was photographed by a customer in Georgia as to DSS' new policy:

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Sheriff Berry wrote the following email to DSS:

Sirs,
It is my understanding that you have stopped selling self loading rifles to members of the general public in favor of selling them to law enforcement officers only.
I deeply regret that decision. As such, this agency will no longer seek bids from or purchase from DSS.
Thank you for your time and attention to this email.
Sheriff Scott Berry
Oconee County Georgia Sheriffs Office

A call to the headquarters of DSS resulted in a political answer of "we appreciate your call, but are in the midst of consulting to form a proper response." They would neither confirm nor deny the report when called on Friday. Apparently their website and postings outside their businesses are more forthcoming than their headquarters.

DSS posting on it’s website

DSS posting on it’s website

My hat is off to Sheriff Berry! In fact, Berry popped up on Fox Business for an interview.

In the interview, when asked why he would not longer be purchasing from DSS, Sheriff Berry said that since law abiding citizens couldn't purchase a legal weapon there with money they have, then he wasn't going to "spend their tax money" at such a business and he wasn't going to "spend his personal money there" either. Come on! This guy is my kind of Sheriff!

When asked if it would "make his job easier" if "assault" rifles weren't being sold and "out there," Sheriff Berry responded by correcting the host that they were semi-automatic rifles, not assault rifles. He then went on to point out that there were millions of these weapons in America, but that "statistically an insignificant number of them are used to commit any kind of crime."

Sheriff Berry was right on weapons and people. "Rifles of any type just don't bother me," he said. "Handguns of any type just don't bother me. The truth is that in the hands of criminals they are tools of evil, but in the vast majority of hands, they are owned by law abiding citizens."

When the host asked why take the term "assault rifle" off the table, the Sheriff responded by stating that the definition of the term is as "wide and as broad" as the building he was sitting in. The Sheriff described that an assault weapon was a military weapon that was designed for military purpose. "Semi-automatic rifles just aren't assault rifles," he said. "You can call them that, but that's just not what they are."

The host then asked Berry what his reaction to the Brady campaigns' rating of an 8 out of 100 on Georgia's regulations on firearms was. According to the host, who was citing the Brady campaign, the reasons for the low rating was because there was "no limits on gun purchases, no required background checks for gun show purchases, and no ban on 'assault' weapons," Sheriff Berry said that he was "hoping to shoot for a lower number than that." He did address the issue of the supposed "required background checks at gun shows" by stating that "law abiding citizens can sell guns in the parking lot or on the floor of a gun show." He doesn't know where they get the idea that it's required to do a background check. He was emphatic in stating that he can sell his gun to anyone else no matter where he is at. The Sheriff rightly pointed out that one goes through the same process if they buy a gun through a dealer at a gun show that someone goes through at a standard brick and mortar store to purchase a firearm. He called the Brady statement concerning gun shows a "scare tactic."

Berry said that Georgia believes in the Second Amendment and that means that law abiding citizens should be able to carry and buy firearms.

The rest of the interview is good too, Please watch it below.

 


In addition, should you be a law-abiding citizen who wants to show your non-support of Dana Safety Supply by not purchasing from them, here are a few more companies owned by the same people that own DSS:

Dana Safety Supply, Atlanta, GA
Southern Firearms, Greensboro, NC
Palmetto Firearms, Columbia, SC (NOTE: This is NOT Palmetto State Armory!)
Central Firearms, Tampa, FL
Dana Safety Supply, Miami, FL
Duval Honda
Duval Ford
Duval Acura
Duval Mazda at the Avenues
Mercedes-Benz of Gainesville
Subaru of Gainesville
Tampa Honda Land
Countryside Ford of Clearwater
Countryside Mazda of Clearwater
U.S. Auto Credit
Scott-McRae Advertising
Cause to Communicate
Commercial Landscape Solutions

UPDATE: I spoke with Sheriff Berry this morning (1/7) via telephone and he appreciates all the support. He also said it was the "farthest thing from his mind" to change the policy of DSS. He stands by his statements and hopes that other sheriffs across the country will do the same.

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  • Mat

    I think the vast majority of law enforcement people feel the same way...after all they have parents, grandparents, and children who need the protection of the 2nd Amendment!

  • http://www.facebook.com/ron.thompson.3154 Ron Thompson

    Finally someone actually using common sense, guts and understands and supports the Constitution! I find the connection with tax money and the tax payer a superb explanation for not using the business.

    • http://www.facebook.com/james.pundsack James Pundsack

      Amen. He's in the same class as our, {Sheriff Joe} Constitutional Suppporting Sheriff!

    • Stephen Heard

      God blees them both!

  • rkz777

    SHERIFF, you're welcome at my home anytime. DEO VINDICE !

  • dwight

    thanks sheriff a real man keep that head up

  • rkz777

    Thank you SHERIFF, you're one hell of a American!!! I will not do business with any such company as well, and I'll definitely pass it on. We don't need these anti-Americans in our country. It's great though that they speak up and identify themselves for us. Thank you commies, we appreciate it.

  • http://twitter.com/JohnGaltClub ClicknConnect Clubs

    Yeah! Go Sheriff!

  • http://www.facebook.com/sheffield.swearingen.5 Sheffield Swearingen

    Sheriff Berry is a true American.

  • Lemrob

    My kind of Sheriff. Stand up against the ones who want to limit our rights.

    • Max Steele

      A company choosing not to sell a product is not limiting your rights. They are but one company, not the entire industry. They can do whatever the hell they want. You shouldn't take such offense to it, just shop somewhere else. Jesus Christ you rednecks are touchy about your guns. What do you need that kind of fire power for anyway? You must be a pretty shitty shot if you need that many bullets.

    • Lemrob

      My; aren't we testy. Must have hit a nerve or something. I was just professing what I thought.

  • jerry

    can someone post the dana safety supply email address so we can send them emails stating that their 18 businesses will not be patronized any longer by patriotic 2nd amendment loving Americans...hopefully other sheriff's departments will do the same and not buy from dana

    • Steven
    • http://www.facebook.com/gene.r.swank Gene R Swank

      Thanks Steven. Everyone send these idiots an email, let them know how much business they have lost!!!!!

    • DrSique

      Damn skippy!!!! I also copied the list at the end of the article so that I don't inadvertently spend any money at their establishments. Wish that we had more law enforcement professionals like the sheriff.

    • Shermer

      As a private business, they are entitled to sell whatever they want to whoever they want, correct?

    • DrSique

      Absolutely correct, Sherm, and we are entitled to not buy it.

    • mthighpockets

      Well we have Sheriff Joe in Ariz' He's one tough cookie and has done a darn good job at straightening out his county' I support him and Also ourSheriff Barry' We need more of these guys'

    • 1American1st

      It just cost them a Judge (firearm). We have a number of firearms including a Judge. Most of them were purchased at one of the stores listed above. After Christmas we were out of town & went to a huge sporting goods store to look at the models of the Judge. I was shocked at how many firearms they had sold in December! We won't be buying our new Judge from the store listed above.

    • 1American1st

      We won't buy ammunition or firearms from any store that does not fully support the 2nd Amendment. Who do they think are buying guns, the mamby pamby, Feinstein & Obama supporting Liberals or the 2nd Amendment supporting Conservatives? Duh........

    • xNarrowPathx

      I have a Judge as well. Love it! Was looking at getting a Circuit Judge next! Cool stuff.

    • mthighpockets

      Good Gun. My honey got a DUI,was Permited to have concealed carry, it was in his truck when they nabbed him ,They took his Gun (the judge;) They took ne home and I asked the cop,"Where's the Judge"??He said well,he'll see him later in the week' I said "NO THE GUN" did'nt want to give it back' Too bad, We had papers stating it was a Right to carry in the vehickle'

  • DAVID PEACOCK

    obama was reelected by the own nothing; know nothing mindless libs;;;; obama will be destroyed by the own everything, know everything conservative 48%;; you are history obama go home to Kenya. America is NOT YOUR NATION AND WE REJECT YOU AS OUR LEADER YOU PIMP.

    • NINJA10R KLR650

      Obama is NOT MY PRESIDENT EITHER!

    • mthighpockets

      A common American person would be better then what we're stuck with'

    • http://www.facebook.com/WilliamCBenedict William C Benedict

      Are you bad mouthing the uslerper-in-chief again?

  • Denver

    Good job Sheriff Barry. Please run for office. You are the type of person we need to lead us.

    • Jeff

      FYI...He did run for office...Of Sheriff.

    • DAVID PEACOCK

      probably means an office of a different agenda ;; like state representative of higher.

    • Denver

      Jeff, I realize that. I meant run for an office which enables him to write and vote for laws before they are signed into law.

  • gregsmom

    Good for him. I'm leaving PA because I don't think anyone here will stand up to any of the gun-haters. Heading asap for someplace that the Obamanazi storm troopers won't get a warm welcome

    • xNarrowPathx

      I believe Montana has already told the feds to eff off when it comes to the guns they make and sell within their state lines. Hopefully more will do the same!

    • http://www.facebook.com/Notgoneyet David Hack

      From what I can see Indiana's fixing to tell the feds to go get fucked!

    • SaanenMom

      Unfortunately Montana has Baucus and Testor....2 extremely liberal DemoRats!

    • xNarrowPathx

      Yeah... I don't understand that at all...

    • ginger

      Time to take out the garbage in Montana.

    • mthighpockets

      Very True, but us that have a brain,ignore their crap' THey don't count in my book'Can't believe Montanans put up with them and voted them back in' Must be more of Obama 's cheating at the voting Mach to keep his buddies in office'

    • mthighpockets

      Come to Montana, no jobs for most,but we're civilized and we Love our Guns''

    • Veteranasm

      Texas is open, but only if you are willing to protect the constitution !!! Welcome !!

    • LadyforLiberty

      Veteranasm: I respect Texas. After all Wasn`t it Texas which defended the Alamo?? They had guns then, thank God!! Just imagine what the Mexicans would have done had those Patriotic Americans been of the Barak Obama mould.
      Thank God for American Patriots!!
      Lock and Load and defend freedom, just like our ancestors did!
      THAT is why the USA Exists TODAY!!!!
      NOT wishy washy, politically correct, pinko dreamin`, liberal commie BS!!
      Beware folks, the Freedom of Speech could be NEXT!!!

    • Max Steele

      No, the USA exists today because we slaughtered Native Americans and then called it "our land". Yet we somehow get so offended when people from other countries want to move here....isn't that what ALL of our ancestors did??

    • Incredulous_one

      Kansas has taken some definite steps in the right direction - got rid of over 20 so-called Repub state senators who acted (and voted) more like DemocRATs. Still yet to see what they'll do this year. Hoping we'll start following OK and TX - now there's a couple of properly run states. If KS doesn't move that direction, I will.

    • http://www.facebook.com/paul.bates.583 Paul Bates

      Yeah I stuck in California looking for a way out.

    • mthighpockets

      Well Paul,I left Calif 50 yrs ago, can't even stand to go back to visit' I've lived all over the N.W. There is a heck of a lot better places to hang your hat then Calif'

    • Blonde Justice

      Come to Arizona. Get gun training if you need it...new law states all people can carry concealed so we can surprise the criminal bastards. Unfortunately, they don't require training like my concealed carry permit used to do. So I got trained and practice as much as I can. Can't always use your gun in some criminal situations but I have it ready in case I can.

    • Herman

      I left Pa., and went to Ga. Come on down.

    • catman

      Gregsmom.....We would welcome you here in Arizona. Much better weather here than in PA also.

  • http://www.facebook.com/garrey.mcvicker Garrey McVicker

    thank you sheriff, we need someone in our corner. you and i both know crime will not go down by taking away good peoples guns.

    • oliver

      crime will double..or triple when guns are took away.

    • nancy miller

      Since the White House and the House and Senate are filled with crooks, crime is already here.

    • Wibbys1

      The biggest and worst are there.

    • Max Steele

      Your grammar is awful. Just goes to show that uneducated people shouldn't get to vote.

  • slhII

    well executed, sheriff, and well reported

    • Justin

      You think that he would be doing his job if he pays twice as many taxpayer dollars to only buy from Democrats?

  • Terry

    Thank the Lord that there are still a few Sheriffs in this world that are reasonable and sensible, unlike the one that we have in Los Angeles County!

    • mthighpockets

      Well, we had a great one in Montana and the uppers bugged him to arrest and stop everyone, until he just quit. He said and I quote' "I'm not stopping every one in this town of 1,000 people. I live here,know them all and they might have a couple drinks on a Fri night. They are not crinimals,I have to live with these people, so I won't stop them on the pretense that their headlight is out just to get money for the county' He quit and I still have a lot of respect for this man. One of the FEW GOOD COPS'

    • Blonde Justice

      Okay so the sheriff thinks because they have had a " couple drinks". My retired police officer husband said that all the drunks that he pulled over always said that they had a couple of drinks. When they're weaving all over the road or have already caused a fatal crash, we all know it wasn't just a couple of drinks. Wait till his family member is killed or seriously injured by one of those people who "only had a couple of drinks" and he'll think differently. I don't drink because I have no right to hurt someone because I have to use liquor to get through my day or have a good time. I can have a great time without any kind of drug. I used to take care of people injured and now living in wheelchairs due to be hit by a drunk driver. You'll never convince me that a couple of drinks doesn't make people drive stupid!

    • Chicot

      For most people a couple drinks don't even compare to an idiot who is texting while driving. I saw a young woman, not a teen ager run three cars off the road in less than 3 miles after I had called 911 to get her off the freeway. Finally the cops got there and pulled her over. But to me that is just as dangereous as drinking while driving. The laws on both instances should be doubled to what they are now and most of them taken off the road permantly.

    • catman

      Or the one we have here in Pima County, Arizona.

  • Wibbys1

    My kinda man! Good for you Sheriff-we need a few more just like you!

    • peter

      not just a few more, thousands more, thank you, sheriff, keep up the good work.

    • ginny4866

      We need a LOT more just like Sheriff Berry in my humble opinion!!

    • Wibbys1

      Oh yeh, I am just thinking along the lines of "a few good men/women." Thousands would be great but we can get started with a few and hope the fire spreads.

    • Stan

      We need A LOT more like him,and politicians too!

    • http://www.facebook.com/WilliamCBenedict William C Benedict

      Not politicians. Honest elected public servants.

    • Justin

      Your kind of man uses tax dollars for his own private politics? So if he only bought guns from Democrats that would be fine too? Got it. Good 'ol GOP RW hypocrisy.

    • Wibbys1

      Exactly right Justinnn. I have long since ceased to care what you blitherig idiots on the side of the commie red revolutionaries think--r say. YES!! he is my kina man. Not a whining simpering two faced mentally challenged liberal like the beloved President for Life, Papa dada Idi Amin Odumpster!

    • vietnamvet1971

      Give'em Heck Wibbys1 take off the gloves and let them have it, that is all they understand of course with a Little Brain washing and they act & talk like Robots pre-programmed.

  • paxcat

    Bravo to the Sheriff!

  • medaveh

    We stand with the Sheriff!

    • hammer

      !!!! GOOD MAN !!!!

    • 820 REDHORSE

      It would scare the regime to know the number of us GOOD Americans that do stand with the good Sheriff!

    • Stan

      You are right, something needs to straighten their act out!

    • WASP

      It would scare the hell out of them if they knew how many good, armed Americans are ready and willing to shoot their butts off if they mess with the Second Amendment. Some dumb@ss gun grab will start the shooting war we so badly need in this country.. Our gummint tyrants aren't going to give up their cushy jobs voluntarily, so the alternative is exactly the same as in 1776.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Lremmell64 Lorena Hess Remmell

      The same sentiment is growing now in the country but at a slower rate than what is needed. I wish it was faster because the Obama Regime is moving very quickly on this because they believe they have the power to do so.

    • Fischenbach

      Good here in Arizona.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1254545548 Jim Greaves

      They do have the power to do so, because they are colluding and conspiring to destroy US. If we were to do the same things that they do openly, we would be disappeared under "authority" of the Patriot Act, but we would go singly, and who'd miss any of us? Kind of like what Hitler's little people did to the Jews, Commies, and Gypsies. One at a time. Until some armed Jews fought back, and then it was open slaughter time.

    • http://www.facebook.com/annette.akerman Annette Akerman

      Au Contraire! The government DOES NOT have the authority to disarm us in any way - if they do, then tell me what the framers meant when they wrote this: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free
      state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be
      infringed." Especially the part "shall not be infringed". Those are scare tactics people think the government has but in reality the Constitution says otherwise. We would be WISE to remember that!

    • Nana

      The Constitution means zip,zero,nada,nothing to Obama!!!

    • pissed off conservative

      and ohbama means zip zero nada to me..let him pass all the anti gun laws he wants..try enforcing them.. i think he wants a cival war..he keeps up his BS thats what he will get

    • Nobody Special

      They don't have the "authority", but Jim said they have the "power"... I agree that they don't have the authority... but I also agree that they think they have the power, and they are trying to use it. Unfortunately it will come to a head, and another major civil war will break out... but war is sometimes a necessary evil to eradicate true evil from power

    • pateboo

      We help all these other countries get rid of THEIR dictators and we do NOTHING about our OWN. I think it's going to come down to either another civil war, or unsealing Obama's records and proving he was never eligible to be President in the first place. I wasn't born into a Third World, Socialist country, and I don't want to live in a Third World, Socialist country either. It's just a matter of time before this all comes to a head and there is major rioting.

    • Justin

      So much for the "law abiding" gun owners. It's clear that the gun-nuts don't want guns to preserve the Republic, but to overthrow it.

    • Al OSuna

      It is people & politicians who want to strip Americans of their right to own arms who are the ones who want to overthrow this Republic and put an end to individual liberty as we know it. It is not the good and responsible gun owners of this country that seek evil against our fellow Americans!! Only evil people and corrupted politicians seek that and they should be resisted.

      It's true patriotic Americans who will save this country and liberty-(with their weapons if needed)-who will stand against politicians that don't believe in freedom and the God Given Rights that we are heirs of.
      We are not a nation of cowards!!!!

      America, remember!! It is up to us, "We the People" who must have the means and the ability to defend Liberty-if the circumstance arose and should we have to do so. If this means and ability-(our right to keep and own arms-especially semi auto weapons) is stripped away from us-how are we, or future generations, going to be able to remain a Free People??

    • Justin

      Nope. The Supreme Court has ruled that well regulated militias can be regulated. Just because you aren't getting the policies you want doesn't give you the authority for insurrection. If you want to destroy the country you aren't patriotic. You can't be the party of patriotism AND insurrection.

      Laws are passed by the elected people under the framework of the Constitution. You want to push your agenda at the barrel of a gun and we, the ACTUAL American people will stop you. We are not a nation of cowards but you are no longer one of us. You are now the one seeking to violate the law and commit violent acts. Hopefully you are locked up before you can do more harm.

    • alogolf2008

      You don't get it!! Americans who value their God Given Rights are the ones who seek to preserve this Constitutional Republic-not tear it down!! Resisting those who don't believe in individual liberty-like the gun banners-is not insurrection....but the securing of freedom.

      You're just someone who does not believe that having the means and ability to protect your family, yourself and your one's own birth rights are something that an American should take responsibility for. I however strongly believe that as Americans, it is our solemn duty to protect all of our rights!!

      Also, it's time Americans awake to the fact that evil senseless murders would not happen to the level of severity that they do, as in Newtown, if more people exercised their 2nd Amendment Rights. Why is there a fear of allowing school principles, staff and teachers to be trained and armed?? If we, as people of courage, stand up against evil and/or crazy people, these events can be far less severe. Willing teachers who want to be armed and trained should be allowed in every school and not feared!!

      Don't be a coward! Be someone who is wiling to protect innocent lives and become someone who thinks we should pass Liberty on to the next generation. Don't have hope that Liberty will be preserved by politicians and people who wear black robes. Stand up for Freedom!!

    • johnnylongcreek

      We only wish to be granted the freedom to protect ourselves and our families from those who wish to do us harm. I thank God those who wish to do us harm have historically (in America) been the occasional criminal. If in the future that villain becomes the government it would seem to be equally prudent to arm ones self to deter that as well. I applaud your vigor for justice but time has proven even the most righteous can and almost invariably will become corrupted. That, my friend is why we have the 2nd amendment. No sane man wants a fight, but no sane man should be unprepared for one.

    • Justin

      Nope. You ask for FAR more than that. You refuse to comply with reasonable gun regulations that will prevent tens of thousands of gun deaths each year. Outlawing gun sales without background checks and requiring gun registration are the first steps.

    • johnnylongcreek

      How would what you propose stop anyone from dying? Legally registered and owned firearms are used in almost no crimes. In short criminals (what i would deem evil people) will kill regardless of what restrictions are in place. would it really make you feel that much better to be killed with a bomb, arrow or sword than a firearm?

    • Justin

      By preventing you from selling your guns to felons without a background check (because they are registered to you) and mandating a background check on every gun sale, we keep the guns out of the hands of felons who currently commit more than 90% of gun crimes. Simple. Oh and it doesn't deprive anyone of a gun who should have one.

      The FAR RIGHT Gun-loons just call this "anti-gun" and complain that the government will come collect them if it knows where the guns are. It's really all about some people wanting to overthrow the government and not about responsible gun ownership.

      Currently people don't commit crimes with registered guns because they don't have to.

    • johnnylongcreek

      So your entire argument boils down to private parties selling firearms should be required to do a background check?

    • Justin

      Nope. That doesn't include gun registration does it? Gun registration insures that when a felon uses a gun for a crime, the gun can be tracked back to the person who sold it to him. If that person didn't do a background check, they are fine. If they did, the felon wouldn't have had the gun to commit the crime with.

      I haven't prevented anyone from owning any gun who should have them. It's the FAR RIGHT gun-nuts who think that gun registration is the same as confiscation. It isn't but you wont get them to believe it.

      Registration of ALL currently owned firearms (all 70 of mine are registered) and mandatory background checks on all 3rd party sales. That's my point.

    • johnnylongcreek

      I fear you overestimate the goodwill of the government. Our government has purposely infected poor black southern citizens with syphilis and let them die just to see how sick they would get. They have given dangerous radiation to pregnant mothers to see how much a baby could take before it comes out a mutant. They give guns to drug cartels and traffickers who then murder US citizens. (Google unethical human experimentation in the United States)
      That is just what we know about. So what you need to ask your self is if you want to give away your right to privacy in a gun registry to a government who has proven itself very capable of using that information against you..... Anyone not an idiot would say no.

    • Justin

      I think that is a cherry picked list if I ever saw one.

      We have a nation of laws and a system of amending them. Armed revolt is not one of them.

      As for "giving guns to cartels" goes, you mean the attempt to stop gun cartels from getting guns right? Thought so.

      I know that we already register hundreds of millions of cars and the government hasn't rounded those up, despite their military use.

      And no. I'm not an idiot. That's just a baseless personal attack. The government isn't going to go door-to-door to pick up 300,000,000 guns. If it tried, THAT would be the policy you might have a basis for rejecting. Slippery slopes are logic fallacies.

    • johnnylongcreek

      Ok sunshine.

    • Justin

      In other words, you've got nothing but rhetoric and insults. You don't actually have a credible theory for how a gun registry means you have no more guns.

    • johnnylongcreek

      Of course magnanimous one. One can see there could be no flaw in your logic. To refute you would be pointless and debate with you is like a candle unto a hurricane.

    • Justin

      Right. And one can certainly refute whatever you believe is the will of "holy God" that you want to trump the Constitution, democracy, and the rule of law.

    • johnnylongcreek

      Indeed may what you say be law. Live forever KING JUSTIN!

    • Justin

      That's the point of democracy right? We each take our opinions, advocate forcefully for them, argue against the opposing beliefs, and vote on what we collectively should do. That's not being a king. Having opinions is part of the democratic process.

    • Chrissy

      Justin, you have got to be a lefty loon, you don't have the balls that God gave a piss ant, I have a 9mm gun, I pack and I have a legal carry permit and if I ever have to use it I will do so to save myself and my family, and that is my right under the constitution to do so, and guess what I AM A FEMALE dumb ass!!!

    • Justin

      I have a 9mm too. It's registered. Nobody is trying to take it from me. I'll never sell it without doing a background check. It's called responsible gun ownership.

    • http://www.facebook.com/sarge43 Charles McVey

      Justin, please read Article 4, Section 4 of the Constitution, and the read James Madison's Federalist Paper No. 10, and then read his orginal Bill of Rights that he submitted to the First Congress, First Session on June 8 1789. You just might learn something about this Constitutional Republic of ours, it is not now nor has it ever been a Democracy.

    • Justin

      Charles I've read all of those things. I've read ALL the RW propaganda. The problem is you all stop there and don't do any critical thinking. There are LOTS of statements you can pull out for all sorts of different purposes depending who's writings you link to. JAMES MADISON WAS NOT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT. HE WAS NOT THE ONLY VOICE. HE'S JUST YOUR FAVORITE VOICE.

    • Independentrd

      Like trying to teach a cat, logic.

    • http://www.facebook.com/sarge43 Charles McVey

      The United State Supreme Court held back in 1971 that the operation of a motor vehicle is a State Regulated Privilege not a Constitutional Right, very big difference between a Privilege and a Right.

    • Justin

      Except Charles, I was merely pointing out the FALLACY that registration equals confiscation. The Constitution itself calls for regulation of the military. That certainly can include registration, which at a minimum lets the government know how many can be mobilized right?

    • Independentrd

      Never heard og "Fast and Furious" where we gave several thousand firearms to the cartels and did not track them? That resulted in several hundred Mexican nationals being murdered along with possibly tw border patrol agents. Then they arrested a whole family who reported suspicious activity for selling to straw purchasers when they were the ones reporting the activity. IOW the government didn't want those purchasers caught.

    • Justin

      It never Happened.
      Conservative magazine Fortune says so.
      And nobody ever alleged "several thousand" or that they "resulted in several hundred nationals being murdered."

      YOU MADE ALL OF THAT UP!

      http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2012/06/27/fast-and-furious-truth/

      "Quite simply, there's a fundamental misconception at the heart of the
      Fast and Furious scandal. Nobody disputes that suspected straw
      purchasers under surveillance by the ATF repeatedly bought guns that
      eventually fell into criminal hands. Issa and others charge that the ATF
      intentionally allowed guns to walk as an operational tactic. But five
      law-enforcement agents directly involved in Fast and Furious tell Fortune
      that the ATF had no such tactic. They insist they never purposefully
      allowed guns to be illegally trafficked. Just the opposite: They say
      they seized weapons whenever they could but were hamstrung by
      prosecutors and weak laws, which stymied them at every turn.

      Indeed, a six-month Fortune investigation reveals that the
      public case alleging that Voth and his colleagues walked guns is replete
      with distortions, errors, partial truths, and even some outright lies. Fortune
      reviewed more than 2,000 pages of confidential ATF documents and
      interviewed 39 people, including seven law-enforcement agents with
      direct knowledge of the case. Several, including Voth, are speaking out
      for the first time."

      OF COURSE, YOU WONT READ THE EXTENSIVELY RESEARCHED ARTICLE. YOU'LL JUST GO ON TELLING YOUR LIES, BECAUSE THE LIE IS MORE IMPORTANT TO YOUR GOAL THAN THE TRUTH IS.

    • Independentrd

      Baloney. I made none of it up, nor did i lie. Typical Liberal, If you can't discredit the information, try to discredit the source

    • Justin

      Like I said, you'd ignore the fact that what you claim happened DIDN'T, even according to a conservative news source that spent half a year investigating. Not a "typical liberal" that can't discredit the information. A CONSERVATIVE NEWS SOURCE SAYS IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

      You've provide NO sources to even be discredited.

    • Independentrd

      Yet you ignore that most firearms used in crimes are stolen, or used by someone other than the owner.

    • Justin

      That's simply not true. Felons commit gun crimes and then claim the guns aren't theirs. Then the RW gun-nuts pretend to believe them. You have no idea who actually owns a gun.

    • Independentrd

      Yes it is true. The figures are readily available and it's no a question of the criminal saying it's not theirs. Remember we have registration in MI and it really is not theirs. That absolves them of nothing if their prints are on it... Check the FBI figures!

      Rather than an excuse of the right you have used an old tried and true excuse of the left "trying to discredit legitimate information because it counter your statements" IE Discredit the information, or the source,

    • Independentrd

      we already have tens of thousands of gun laws nationwide, and crime tends to be highest where the laws are the most restrictive. But look at murders: Non firearm murders outnumber those using firearms by slightly over 50%, or roughly 13,000 to over 16,000. Out of the top ten firearms are the lowest. I have no problem with some people disliking firearms, but when looking at the criminal statistics (provided by the government) it appears those calling for stricter laws are ignoring facts and misdirecting their efforts. Violent crime is down over 50% from its peak as are those with firearms. This is with twice the population and a poor economy with a very high unemployment rate,

      Crime is up where regulation is strict and down where "must issue" is the law for concealed carry. That must mean those calling for more laws have a goal of something other than reducing crime or increasing safety, contrary to what they claim and that is what worries me.

    • Justin

      It's not about the number of laws but the quality. Right now anyone can buy sell or trade any gun to any person without any background check or registration and THAT is why over 90% of gun crimes are committed by felons who shouldn't have them.

      Crime being up where "laws are strict" is the oldest trick in the gun-nut playbook isn't it? It doesn't matter if there are strict regulations in Trenton NJ if there are none 25 minutes away in Pittsburg, which is exactly what happens. Every gun nut knows it they just pretend it's not the truth. Guns travel.

    • Robert

      yep those are the first steps to removing all opposition to anything the Government wants to do to us. Look at HISTORY the real history not the watered down versions that call the American revolution a terrorist action. I am talking about the real history. Look at Rome. then look at the US in the past 100 years. If you have a open mind then you will see the truth. Rome went to hell and changed from a republic to a Empire because the people in the government were corrupt. There was a new emperor every few years at the last before it finally fell. The real power was in the army's and the force of arms the leaders of those army's controlled. Look at today. We the People have guns we are the force and the leaders. Not the Government. If they take the guns then we are not the force and they become the leaders. That is what they want

      No gun has ever decided to jump up and load itself so it can go kill people. That requires a human to do that. It has been proven that removing guns will not keep people safe. Criminals do not follow the law. Every country that has take away guns has seen an explosion of violence. Without guns people cannot protect themselves from criminals. It does not matter of those criminals are working for or against the Government.

    • Lighthorse Harry

      Well Mr. Justin, I hope you aren't the guy who comes to my house for my firearms, for your sake. If I'm a revolutionary, then so be it. Our nation and it's courts have gone awry over the course of many years. I know of the decision, and frankly, our founders would have been astounded by it. Only 1/3 of Americans participated in the first Revolution. You, and I, owe our freedoms to those patriots. It's always going to take guys like me to die to protect freedoms for sheep like you. Think about it. Five people have decided that millions of Americans could be legally destroyed. I suppose you find nothing wrong with that? I find a lot wrong with it. Culture does not trump a holy God. Since our arrogant courts have removed God from our schools, we have, and are going to see a lot more stupidity. Loose your support for wrong and stand up for what's right and confront evil and those who follow evil at every opportunity, or suffer the consequences. Ok, so I'm a revolutionary. I'll wear that name proudly.

    • Justin

      There is no God and we have a secular government.

      I don't care if you don't like the way the Court's have ruled. There is a democratic process for addressing that. Something tells me that if 5 people had said you could force every student to listen to the Lord's prayer every day you would have no problem with that.

      Wear your revolutionary hat proudly but don't pretend to be an American then. America is a Constitutional secular government, not your theocracy or a military dictatorship. You want to trump the will of the people with your guns which is why you must be stopped.

    • Lighthorse Harry

      Mr. Justin, you have just proved my point. Thank you. "The fool has said in his heart, there is no God" Psalm 14:1 You have made poor choices in your life. We all choose. God gave you your free will. There are eternal ramifications. Now go outlaw ladders and swimming pools because they have killed far more people than guns this past year.

    • Justin

      Nope. I didn't prove your point. I just refuse to recognize that your private religious beliefs govern this government, this discussion, our schools, or the issue of gun control. Yours is a red herring and I don't need to share your religious beliefs to have an equal voice in this country. I don't even need to fake them.

    • Lighthorse Harry

      Mr. Justin, Every Knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. You may reject that if you wish, but I would strongly recommend that you investigate who wrote that and why. Our country was founded on Christian principles. Man's will is inherently evil and the second Amendment was originally constructed to protect the American experiment in freedom, from the tyranny which is already pervading the minds (and courts) of many....such as yourself. Though you and your ilk are scurrying to re-write history, in the end, the truth will be known. You see, when a people group rejects God, their government must become god-like. That is what you are doing. It has happened many times in history. Please, sir, educate yourself. Read the Holy Bible. I will say no more. Good bye.

    • Justin

      Every knee will bow... Unless there isn't a God right?

      I'm not rejecting "God" because God doesn't exist. I'm stating that God doesn't exist. Your threats of Godly judgment do not intimidate me as you think they should. I DO NOT FEAR YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.

    • Noni77

      In order to state that such a being as God does not exist, you would have to be omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent. You'd have to be able to be in every corner of the Universe at exactly the same time, and able to see things on a subatomic level, as well as a macro level beyond our imagination in order to state definitively that "God does not exist". Are you therefore stating that you ARE a god and have thusly PROVEN God does not exist? Or just a fool's fool with an unbelievable egomania based on nothing?

    • http://www.facebook.com/sarge43 Charles McVey

      Registration is a prelude to confiscation. Read the Nazi Gun Control law of 1938, first Hitler demanded that every gun owner register their guns with the Government, then he and his SS using the registration moved in and confiscated those very same guns, Lenin did it, Idi Amen Da Da also did it, and so to did Castro, and Hugo Chavez look at the history of Registration and Confiscation of firearms.

    • Justin

      NOPE.

      First, the initial gun laws in Germany were passed to PREVENT the Nazis from taking over by force. They were passed by the previous regime which is why The Bier Hall Putz by Hitler failed. His armed attempt to seize the armory ended him up in prison.

      Secondly, just because a fascist government passed a law that said SOME people (mainly non-Germans) couldn't have guns after registration does not mean that that is the ultimate result anymore than milk is a precursor to heroine use.

    • pateboo

      So by using your own reasoning, just because someone has a gun in their possession, doesn't mean they'll use it for an evil purpose. Right?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-Broderick/100000404215715 Jack Broderick

      Hey Justin! You do have an individual right to your own opinion on every issue, but so does everybody else. This is a country where majority rules but you fail to recognize that. The majority believes in the 2nd amendment,
      and responsible gun owners do register their guns but criminals do not.
      So take your skewed thoughts on potential harm which lies at the feet of the criminal that used the gun against innocent people and prosecute those people to the maximum, and don't try to pass laws that the majority of Americans agree with. History has proven that taking away all gun rights only leads to a lifestyle of servitude, for instance countries like Germany, Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba are totaliatrian regimes that's when all those rights you claim to have under our constitution go out the window and you become in reality a slave to a dictator, if that's what you want then by all means continue to believe that your rights under such a regime are guaranteed but that's a fallasy.

    • Justin

      Except most people support tighter gun restrictions.
      52 percent of Americans agree that semi-automatic weapons should be banned. The Bushmaster rifle used in the Connecticut shooting is a semi-automatic weapon.
      62 percent are in favor of a reinstatement of the assault weapons ban, which expired in 2004.
      59 percent of Americans favor a ban on high-capacity magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition.
      74 percent support requiring criminal background checks of anyone purchasing a gun.
      79 percent support requiring gun retailers to perform background checks on all employees.
      75
      percent believe concealed carry permits should only be granted to
      applicants who have not committed any violent misdemeanors, including
      assault.
      74 percent believe permits should only be granted to applicants who have completed gun safety training.
      http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-control-polls-sandy-hook-school-shooting-elementary-newtown-ct-2012-12#

    • pateboo

      Those are only percentages of the people they polled. If you only poll black people on issues that pertain mostly to black people for instance, that doesn't mean the majority of Americans feel that way, only that the majority of black people polled felt that way about something. Unless you poll EVERY SINGLE person, you can't say that the MAJORITY feels a certain way. I haven't answered any polls about it, so there goes your theory right there.

    • Herman

      I read, that the bushmaster was not used in the killings. In fact the first report I heard about the shootings, said that he used hand guns, and the bushmaster was in the trunk of the car. You can do any thing with numbers, hell Bill Clinton balanced the budget with #'s. They didn't say that he used the Social Security Trust Fund, I.R.A.'s, 401K's to do it. which by the way wasn't the Governments money to start with. Like you can't prove to me that no one voted for Romney in all those voting districts in Ohio and Pa., where he didn't get one vote. All I am going to say is, I am not going to register my guns, and I will use them when I think necessary. So all you so called gun lovers , I am with you all the way.

    • Herman

      I believe that Newt Gingrich, said even the Supreme Court Justices can be replaced if they do not follow the Constitution.

    • pateboo

      I use knives to cut my food and to open packages, I could potentially harm someone with those too, maybe we should ban all knives, or register to buy one. On the first 9/11 airplanes were used to kill thousands of people intentionally, maybe we should ban those too. What would Obama fly on then???

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shane-Branning/100000402966734 Shane Branning

      The difference between a Patriot and a Terrorist is only whether your side wins!!!

    • Herman

      I have to side with Lighthorse Harry, When Germany invaded the Netherlands, all they had to do was go to the Police stations who had the lists of who had guns and confiscated them. I know, right now you are thinking, who would ever invade us. We are right now being invaded by Latino's, and Muslims. Granted most are not shooting their way in, but some are. I Quote," Leaders of Kansas City Muslim group petition Obama to limit free speech of American Citizens". They say that so called Blasphemy Law's, are necessary to prevent speech that hurts " The religious feeling of Muslims". So America is under attack. Keep a hold of all your guns, because you are going to need them, if not right now, in the near future. Unless you want to get a prayer run and pray to Mecca 4 or 5 times a day. Because if you don't convert, they will enslave you and if your are not worth enslaving, they are going to kill you. Look at the Attack in Algeria, The left all the Muslims alone and went after every one else. If you don't think they will not try that here, you are crazy. Not only the Muslims we have to worry about, but our own Government.

    • jcgreen2

      Please... leave the country! We don't need any more Atheist, Marxist, traitors in America. I fought and risked my life for your right to put down all good patriotic Americans with your irreverent ridicule... but enough is enough already! Just go!

    • Justin

      And you just called me disrespectful in your other thread? Like I said, that's all you guys. You also said you weren't going to talk to me anymore but I guess that didn't outlast your desire to go down the RW label list.

      Atheist? Yup. Marxist? Nope. Traitor? Absolutely not. I'm standing up for the Republic here while everyone is advocating making war against it.

      I'm not going anywhere. This is my country and you can't bully, intimidate, or chase me out with guns and insults. I support the Constitution and it gives the government to regulate guns. Don't like it, then "just go."

    • Noni77

      Delusional.

    • Herman

      You must be reading a different Constitution than I read, you must be reading our leftist liberal Governments interpretation of it. I think the American Citizen has already bent over backwards, by allowing us to be a restricted as much as we are. Like gun free zones. Where have the majority of these killing taken place. Gun free zones. Even the shooting at Fort Hood was in a gun free Zone. Gun free zones, do not stop these shooting from happening, I think it encourages them.

    • pateboo

      I'm curious, since you don't believe in God, who do you blame for things that happen? You can't say something was an act of God, since you don't believe he exists. You can't say Jesus Christ when you're angry about something, because he's the son of GOD, whom you don't believe in. You can't say OMG!!! So just what DOES someone who doesn't believe in God say in all those circumstances? Oh, and by the way, I encountered my guardian angel about 30 years ago, so I do believe God exists. And there's a You tube video of a black man who clinically was pronounced dead and claims he encountered the Devil, so I'm betting he exists too.

    • Nana

      Constitution is null and void under Obama!!!!1

    • Justin

      No it isn't.

    • Justin

      No it isn't.

    • dmrid526

      Nullifying or destroying the Constitution by Executive Order is not preserving, protecting and defending the Constitution, the oath the President took when elected to office! It is Treason! It is breaking his oath! He's removing what he swore an oath to defend!

    • Justin

      Except there was no nullifying the Constitution by Executive Order. If you feel the Constitution has been violated, then there is a procedure for repairing that.

      It's not treason for the President to do something that you don't agree with. You can't prove any actual violation of the Constitution. And violating the Constitution, which lots of Republicans (and probably this Sheriff you all love so much) have done isn't "treason." Treason is knowingly giving aid and comfort to an enemy in the time of war. That's in the Constitution. If you are going to pretend to be respecting the Constitution, then you should know what Treason actually is, rather than make up your own definition.

    • Justin

      There was no nullifying the Constitution by executive order. If you think that there has been a violation of the Constitution, there is a process for addressing that. It's not insurrection.

      Also, Treason is intentionally giving aid and comfort to the enemy in a time of war. It isn't disagreeing with you. If you are going to pretend to be a supporter of the Constitution, then you shouldn't pretend that treason is something other than the way it is defined in the Constitution.

    • jcgreen2

      That's not true at all, Justin. It's the current administration that is trying to impose its will on us the people... not the other way around. We will never allow anyone (government or not) to disarm us. It's our God-given, fundamental, natural, unalienable right to be armed. If they want to try and forcibly take that Constitutionally protected right away from us, there will be bloodshed. And it won't be our fault.

    • Justin

      The current administration was duly elected twice consistent withe Constitution of the United States. We The People, who remain loyal to the American government remain loyal to its present and resolute in the protection of its legitimate laws. You don't have a right to defy the 3 branches of government and declare your voice superior to democracy through force simply because you can't conform to the laws of this nation.

    • jcgreen2

      I spent 7 years serving my country as a Naval Officer and I swore an oath to "uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic." That oath never expires. When I see leaders trying to destroy my Constitution domestically (like is currently happening), I have an obligation to stand up and defend it. I have no such obligation a president, a congress, or any politicians in any administration. The Founders understood this clearly. Our loyalty is to the Law of the Land of our nation... NOT the leaders, who are prone to corruption, or the government. And if they pass an unconstitutional law "infringing" my right to keep and bear arms, as protected by the 2nd Amendment, I will NOT comply! No way! And there are millions of patriotic citizens exactly like me who understand the principles of proper governance very well.

    • Justin

      Your oath doesn't make you a nation on to yourself. You don't get to arbitrate what the Constitution means, decide what laws you'll follow, decide what laws are not, and "defend" that ideal against reality.

      The leaders make the laws. You all have no respect for the laws and make your own laws. You make your own constitutions. You make your own rights.

      Fine. You want to be your own country, go make one. This ones mine. We have a constitution and laws of our own and they are not subject to your oath.

    • jcgreen2

      Unless you are a Veteran as well, and have put your life on the line to defend our US Constitution, as I have... don't you dare tell me what I can defend and what I can't! This is MY country that I have sacrificed and my entire life for and I will not stand by while uninformed traitors like you try to destroy it. The oath I swore was not mine... it was the oath of an "Officer of the United States Navy," and I will uphold it against people like you who do not understand how important our Constitution is. When corrupt leaders like in the current Obama administration start making their own laws in violation of that US Constitution, I will fight them to the bitter end... to preserve liberty for future generations. If you have an issue with patriotic Veterans and good loyal citizens who DO understand these simple truths clearly, then I invite YOU to leave. Go somewhere where you can appreciate their Marxist ideologies... and be a slave to the state.

    • Justin

      WRONG. You aren't a super citizen with extra rights because you served in Vietnam. You don't get to write your own Constitution, revolt against the government, and pretend you are "defending" the nation. You aren't. You are using your guns to get your way.

      Just calling the President "corrupt" doesn't make him corrupt.

      Again, if you stay here and take up arms against my country I will fight you, whether you served in Vietnam or not.

    • Robert

      I guess the words foreign and Domestic does not mean the same things to you. I guess domestic means anyone that does not think like you do. Not anyone living in this country and trying to undermine it or destroy it though any means.

      Besides Obama was not elected by the people there was to much voter fraud for that even if he was eligible for election. Which it has been proven he is not.

      So how is it that when someone stands up for the constiution they are wrong and when someone comments fraud and open theft it is all right so long as it is a so called elected official.

    • Justin

      You guys just make up the voter fraud bit without any evidence.

      Those words mean something to me but they don't mean "overthrow the government." It means that we uphold the Constitution in the face of threats, not disband the union.

    • jcgreen2

      Because of your disrespect, you don't deserve further discussion. I am armed already every day, and you'd better hope you are around someone like me when another wacko pulls out his guns to start shooting innocents. Sounds like YOU are the insurrectionist here, not I. With people like you, who likely helped re-elect the worst president in US history, I fear for the future of our country very much. Heaven help our republic!

    • Justin

      Oh please. If you've read half the responses I've gotten, you'd know which side is respectful.

      As for wacko's pulling guns, I'd rather keep them from getting guns in the first place by requiring gun registration and background checks on third party sales. If not, I hope a cop, and not some guy who think's he's John Wayne is near.

      I oppose insurrection and succession. Those are the tools of the far right.

    • Darfur Deng

      I've never encountered anyone with such a warped concept who was not either seriously medicated, and or; committed to a mental facility.

      Your clear inability to preform cognitive reasoning goes a long way in explaining why inbreeding is not only a bad idea, but a criminal act as well.

    • Justin

      Your clear inability to make any point besides engaging in personal attacks shows who is lacking in cognitive performance.

    • Darfur Deng

      My point could be no more clearly stated, but I'll simplify it just for you.

      Your incessant need to stalk a thread so you can post the same ludicrous diatribe over and over to every response, clearly reveals a deeply disturbed narcissistic individual suffering from an obsessive compulsive disorder, and one who should never be allowed to be around sharp objects, much less a firearm.

    • Striker

      We do not want to write our own Constitution. We support the one that already exists and has existed for a long time. YOU are the one who wants to rewrite it to fit your own needs. Get your facts straight!

    • Striker

      You speak "my country" like you have ownership of it. Someone who probably hasn't done 10 minutes of service for her. I am also a veteran who swore to defend her. And as far as you fighting us, what are you going to do, try and run us over with your Prius? Most of the military will not be on your side.

    • Darfur Deng

      You're either seriously deluded, or a blatant LIAR; you are not a veteran. I've never encountered any fellow veteran with such a warped concept that was not seriously medicated, and committed to a mental facility.
      Your clear inability to preform cognitive reasoning goes a long way in explaining why inbreeding is not only a bad idea, but a criminal act as well.

    • http://twitter.com/psffur Peter Scott Furman

      A nation "on to" itself"? You criticize others and abuse the very Freedoms you would take!

      Darwin was right! It is the survival of the fittest!! Obviously your mouth won't do much when the end game is done! Your ignorance is obvious as 50 million need food stamps to survive and 23 million plus the millions rendered invisible as they have quit and/or dropped out!

      We are $16 trillion in debt with $6 trillion more red ink in just 4 years! Obama swore to 1/2 the deficit in 4 years!! Seems like you are not only a moron with a big mouth but,a moron with a big mouth who has no idea what a moron he is!
      We have No budget for 4 years and we depend on others to pay the debt service we can not pay.

      No need to comment further! We know who you are!!

    • jcgreen2

      I have to also add... it's that exact thinking you have expressed that has allowed dictators to rise to power in places, like China, Russia, Cuba, Cambodia, South Korea, Venezuela, and Germany! Our loyalty should NEVER be to any person in office or even to any government... only to the Constitution which protects us from abuse by corrupt politicians. For that I was willing to fight and die as a Naval Officer during Vietnam. And I am still willing to do the same today. How about you?

    • Jwilson3570

      Australia and Great Britain did the whole register you gun thing and then one day they forced everyone who was registered to had those guns in to be destroyed, with no recourse to the Law abiding owners. But guess what the drug dealers and criminals still have their guns. If you want to really stop gun violence create a law that say's if you use a gun of any kind while committing a crime you do 10-15 yrs in Federal prison and if you take a life while committing that time you do mandatory life without parole. Now that might stop criminals from using guns and it would leave those of us who are Law Abiding Citizens alone. And I don't know where you get your facts but here in NY everyone who buys a firearm legally gets a federal background check 100% of buyers not 74% like you stated. And guess what no criminal buys a gun legally. So if you take my gun only criminals will have them. And by the way if guns cause killing then Cars cause DWI's so lets ban cars as well.

    • Noni77

      Patriots are not loyal to fraud presidents who are not citizens and won in 2012 by cheating.

    • http://www.facebook.com/chadima1 Michelle Chadima

      Also NOT TRUE. Not duly elected....note that Obama did not win in states that require photo ID to vote. Only those where no id is required. Some precincts reported 158% of registered voters voting for Obama, and many precincts reported 100% voting for Obama; both impossible without fraud.

    • Herman

      I hope you don't think that I am picking on you. I wasn't for that Lying President we got 4 years ago, and I am not for him now. I knew the election was fixed when Obama acted like he had already won and went on a vacation. Plus Eric Holder wasn't in Prison, let alone resigned. Why the G.O.P. ever got involved with not being able to contest an election, I will never know, unless there are a lot of Progressives in the Republican Party too. Which now I am sure of. They even let Democrats vote in the Republican Primary. All the House of Representatives have to do is shut the money off and put the Government back on a budget. Did all the money, 60 billion go to the Storm Victims, with all the Pork in it? If so then its time to replace a lot more people in two years.

    • Independentrd

      Typical liberal twisting words. Regardless, the founders created the second amendment to prevent government from becoming like what we had just rebelled against and gained our freedom.

    • Justin

      Wrong. The founders created the second amendment so that there would be a way of protecting the nation from outside forces, not so that you all could overthrow the government. The words "well regulated" are there fore a reason. All rights, even those that don't include the words "well regulated" in their amendments, are subjected to reasonable restrictions in the face of compelling interests. And the Supreme Court has ruled that NUMEROUS gun regulations, including registration, licensing, and bans of certain types of weapons is Constitutional.

      Therefore, some of us are dealing with what the law is, and some are dealing with their own reality.

    • alogolf2008

      Justin, It is time for all people like you to realize and face the truth as to why there is a right of our citizens to own firearms that is to be protected
      by the Bill of Rights. If a nation of free people is to remain a free
      people-and the circumstances required it-then these same citizens would
      have the duty to take up arms against a government-even their own-if that government has gone awry and has become a tyrannical one. This is why the 2nd amendment was added to the bill of rights! If you can't see or comprehend this, then you will never be on the side of those who will be ready to protect freedom!!!

    • Justin

      The time has come for people like you to realize that tens of thousands of innocents are murdered every year and they do not need to die for me to be free. Reasonable regulations on guns does not end freedom.

      The 2nd Amendment was not enacted so you could overthrow the government. You don't have a right to overthrow the government, even if the founders were fond of it. If you think the government has "gone awry" and has become tyrannical then you can do what you must, but the law does not need to provide you with an arsenal for every time ANY CITIZEN decides he wants to shoot up the country.

      We have plenty of guns in this country. All 300 million of them probably would be about useless if you started murdering American soldiers in a country with 52% of the worlds military.

      But murdering American soldiers is what you guys all keep your guns for? And then you want to be patriots too? And you don't give a damn about the hundreds of thousands who die in preparation.

      The Far Right wants guns for every time the government tells them to do something they don't want to do. Then it's time to break out the Federalist papers for why they are "justified" in killing Americans.

    • Dennis Campbell

      What an ignorant and foolish person you are. We want guns for the same reasons the Founders did: To protect ourselves from tyrants and criminals.

    • Justin

      No we clearly see that you want to impose your laws at the barrel of the gun. The 2nd Amendment isn't a right to succession or overthrowing the government. The Supreme Court says that gun ownership is subject to regulation. You guys hate the Constitution and want to create your own with your guns. Luckily, we who support and defend the Republic will send you to prison when you try.

    • Guest

      We only wish to be granted the freedom to protect ourselves and our families from those who wish to do us harm. I thank God those who wish to do us harm have historically (in America) been the occasional criminal. If in the future that villain becomes the government it would seem to be equally prudent to arm ones self to deter that as well. I applaud your vigor for justice but time has proven even the most righteous can and almost invariably will become corrupted. That, my friend is why we have the 2nd amendment. No sane man wants a fight, but no sane man should be unprepared for one

    • pateboo

      Then you better throw Obama in prison, because he's sending guns to Mexican Cartels, and Al Qaida, and he couldn't care less about the Constitution.

    • http://theawakenednation.ning.com/profile/KevinMKeener Snowman8wa

      One can only hope and pray.............As our Goernment is capitulent to the "Post Turtles" wishes....
      Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis

    • http://theawakenednation.ning.com/profile/KevinMKeener Snowman8wa

      "... The Supreme Court says that gun ownership is subject to regulation...."

      The Supreme Court also said that women can kill innocent children and that Government can impose Federalized MANDATED Steralization through imposed Healthcare.....doesn't make it right now does it?

      As a Veteran of which I am sure you are NOT; as IF you were you would have a greater understanding of the MEANING of the 2nd Amendment and those of us who swore to protect and Defend OUR COUNTRY, then you might, just might GET IT!

      Given a corrupt Government of which we currently have "Progressed" to, it gives US the RIGHT to RETURN to the Constitution which is under complete attack by ProgresiCommuSocialst PINHEADS, of which I am sure you are not one....or ARE YOU Justin???......
      Plainly, there are only two ways to get consensus on gun control; either by "REASONING" with me, that your point of view is accurate or by "FORCE". As I see that you will never justify why I should give criminals the unfettered ability to bash our heads in or Government unfettered ability to force us to do what a choice few deem necessary, then you have only one option, which is to remove MY PROTECTION from such actions, which leaves TRUE AMERICANS one choice; Self Preservation from such attacks......so PICK YOUR HILL General Custer!

      "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" for the ignorant and capitulant means:

      SHALL NOT BE:

      BROKEN
      VIOLATED
      TRANSGRESSED
      For anybody born after 1977 with a simpleton PUBLK SCREWEL education on Our Constitution.....it means
      "Can't Touch Dissss!" DummDoDee Dum DoDummm...CAN'T TOUCH DISSS!"
      We don't want to create our own Constitution....YOU DON'T FIX WHAT AIN'T BROKEN young padawan!
      Semper Vigilo Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis

    • Darfur Deng

      The Republic has long been under assault by the Liberal Democratic Nazi regime that has seized control of the Democratic Party.

      Gun owners are the ones who serve as the last line of defense constitutionally obligated to preserve it.

    • Justin

      Many gun owners have an exaggerated sense of self-importance. Oh and the Democrats aren't Nazis, in case it wasn't obvious.

    • Darfur Deng

      You are what ever I choose to say you are, and nothing you say can or will ever change that fact.

      You clearly can't READ moron, it's the Liberal Left Wing Nut-jobs like yourself that follow the Nazis agenda of Racialism, Hate Mongering, Baby Butchering, Gun Confiscating, Genocidal Megalomaniacs.

      Don't like it? Tough, you are what I say you are...PERIOD.

    • Justin

      Sorry Darfur Deng but you saying something doesn't make it true. Liberals aren't nazis, racists, hate mongers, baby butchers, gun confiscators or genocidal megalomaniacs. You saying it certainly doesn't make is so, but your claim that I am what you say I am because you say so carries with it a heavy does of megalomania itself.

    • Independentrd

      Give up? Some Democrat just introduced a bill to eliminate presidential term limits!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1254545548 Jim Greaves

      Nothing scares people who have access to nukes, drones, spy satellites, and other "paraphernalia" banned by THEMSELVES to the rest of us... Write your congress critters and DEMAND they they PERSONALLY come to your door for the income tax they "claim" is theirs to spend... Let's see how many of them comply with that simple request. After all, the 16th amendment informs us that, because ONLY Congress is mentioned, NO ONE ELSE is entitled (!!!) to either "lay" or "collect" an income tax from anyone! Smoke that O.

    • Chemiker

      I doubt that Obama cares what we think. We love America; he hates America.

    • henryknox

      We are in a fight with satan himself and it is good to have people like this Sheriff on our side. Don't support any of these DSS companies.

    • boone1

      Hell yes we do

    • Bud in Georgia

      Add DICK'S Sporting goods to the list of stores not selling semi auto or assault rifles. By the way I have tried to deal with these guys a couple of times and I know how they got thier name.

    • Walt

      Damn, now I have to buy my Ammo elsewhere. I wondered why the rack was so empty yesterday. Just .22's, shotguns and a few bolt action rifles along with a lot of empty spaces on the wall. I thought they had just sold everything but evidently they pulled the rifles and from appearance - most of the ammo as well.

    • Bryce016

      In Washington at every outdoor store I went to they had ALL sold out of AR-15s and other semi autos. All the .223 ammo was gone other then a few boxes of tracer for $22.

    • darylj46

      Dicks pulled all of the rifles and sent them back just before christmas, so shop there

    • darylj46

      meant don't shop there

    • Truth goes 100 MPH

      If anyone buys stocks, they sure made portfolios more profitable. Buy stocks in the companies recording record profits and dump these politically correct pansies. When they see their bottom line at the end of the year they can cry all the way to bankruptcy court. See 'Ya, wouldn't want to be 'Ya.

    • craneop

      had a comment before I read your correction.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Lremmell64 Lorena Hess Remmell

      Go to Bass Pro Shop (Also known as Outdoor World), Gander Mountain to buy ammo.

    • Ronnie

      Instead of Dick's we should start calling them Head's!

    • Shermer

      As a private business, aren't they entitled to sell whatever they want to whoever they want?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-William-Swigart/1425304242 Scott William Swigart

      That is correct, Shermer. Also, as private citizens, we are entitled to buy items from any store we chose and DSS just removed themselves from the list of a LOT of people.

      If a store, such as DSS, resorts to the actions that have just chose and tells private citizens 'screw you', then citizens have the same right to 'go elsewhere' for their firearms, ammo and accessories needs.

      I haven't shopped at K-Mart for years. Why? K-Mart pulled all of their weapons off the rack the day of 911. For that bonehead manuever and ever since, I nor my family shop there. WE have chosen not to ever spend another dime there and it doesn't matter how much they put items on sale. It wouldn't matter if they were giving away mechandise, I wouldn't take it for free.

    • Herman

      An we have the right to shop there or not for what ever reason. If it is a legal product, why not sell it if there is a demand for it, an a profit to be made from it.

    • Shermer

      Perhaps by restricting sales to law enforcement only, they are hoping to reduce the chance of those weapons falling into the wrong hands.

    • Herman

      Are you of the opinion that all law enforcement are honest? I hate to wake you up from your dream, but a lot of them belong behind bars. Have you ever heard of the Innocent Project? Why have so many convictions been over turned by DNA evidence? Because a (I will use the word) lot of innocent people have been convicted, sent to Prison for crimes they did not commit, Now who put them there, The cops and our legal system. You have to ask your self how did they get convicted in the first place, if they were innocent.

    • Shermer

      Of course I don't think they're all honest, but I don't think many of them are giving their service weapons to other people so they can go and shoot school children. Do you?

    • Herman

      Show me any where in the World where they have strict gun control, that does not have gun violence. But I can show you where over 58 million people were slaughtered by their own Governments when they gave up their guns. Political Correctness in this Country has to stop. I don't know if any one thought of it or not, but it wouldn't surprise me that some one does not suing Adam Lanza (shooter in Sandy Hook Elementry) Mom for having guns in her house, where her sick Son could Murder her and take her guns. More like those Convicts in Idaho suing the Beer and Wine Company's for being the cause for them to commit their crimes. We have to hold every one responsible for their actions, even our children. We should not blame the Bar or Bar owner for us getting drunk. We should not allow a man to run around Fathering children all over the neighbor hood, with various Woman, and not support them. It was said the other day that an unmarried woman with a certain # of Children making $29,000 a year,and with public assistance can live better than a woman who makes 69,000 a year with out Government assistance.

    • Shermer

      Okay, how about Australia, Japan and Britain? All those countries have very strict gun laws, making it almost impossible for civilians to own firearms unless they are for sport or work-related (and even then the requirements are very restrictive). Firearm homicide rates are 0.09, 0.02 and 0.04 per 100k population respectively - compare those to the USA at 3.7

      Are you going to tell me those 58 million were in Russia? You'll have to give me some sources showing how you get that number, that they all had guns to begin with, and that the deaths were as a result of giving them up.

    • Herman

      Most of these you already know, Germany established gun control in 1938. From 1939 to 1945, 13 Million Jews and others were rounded up and exterminated. Soviet Union established gun control in 1929, to 1953, 20 million dissidents were rounded up and exterminated. 1935 China established gun control. From 1948 to 1952 20 million political dissidents were rounded up and exterminated. In 1970 Idi Amin in Unganda established gun control. From 1971 to 1979 Christians unable to defend them selves were rounded up and exterminated. Pol Pot. who was responsible for killing one million of his own educated, yet unarmed citizens. Even now days take a look at all the African nations, that have gun control and are killing their own citizens. Most of it is a religious war between Muslims and Christians. I was told that most of tribal conflicts in Africa were religious, which I didn't believe. I checked it out, and if you look close enough, you will see most of it is. Like one tribe will be backed by Muslims, and they go out and kill all the Christians they can find in some other tirbe. The ones they don't kill they force to convert to Islam.

    • Shermer

      So rather than compare America to other 21st century civilised countries, you'd rather compare it to China, Soviet Russia and 1970s Uganda?

      I thought you asked about other countries that have strict gun control. You have my answer - what say you?

    • Herman

      Check out the web site, Now The End Begins. They explain ever thing better than I ever could. Its about how the second amendment was never about the right to go hunting. I really enjoy this exchange of thoughts and ideas. I really like-what say you?

    • Shermer

      Yes I know - Hitler, Stalin, Mao. But I'm still curious about how you correlate those homocide stats for the countries with strict gun laws and the rates in the US. The first sentence of your post suggested that when citizens don't have easy access to guns, they are at greater risk of being a victim of gun crime - the stats suggest otherwise.

    • Herman

      How do you think they killed off most of their citizens. I think that when they are shot by the State with a gun, it would still be called a gun crime. I know that poison gas was used in some instances, but the guards held guns which made them go into the gas chambers.

    • Shermer

      Come on, Herman. You asked me a question, I answered it, and now you've just ignored it.

      Modern, civilised countries - Australia, Japan, Britain. Those citizens don't have access to guns like you do, but they are between 41 and 185 times less likely to be murdered with a gun than in the US.

    • Herman

      Have you been watching the news lately? Like how G.B. records criminal events. Crime in G.B. went way up after gun control. I think they said it went up 5 fold. Same way in Australia, and I am not certain about Japan. I believe that in Japan murder rates went up, but not by guns. In G.B. now they are outlawing certain kitchen knives, an even locking blade pocket knives. Whats next tire irons, ball bats and gulf clubs? You have to realize People kill People.

    • Shermer

      You could probably call it gun control if those tens of millions of Chinese and Russian peasants had millions of guns that they'd turned over to the government, or had the opportunity to acquire millions of guns but were somehow prevented by the government. I don't think that's the case, do you?

    • Herman

      I would say that the Government forced the Peasants to turn in any guns that they had. (just like our Government is trying to do to us now) Then, never gave the Peasants the opportunity (or the means) to purchase arms. I do think that was the case. I do not know how many guns were confiscated, or were turned in, for fear of their Government. But just like the Germans who didn't agree with Hitler, Jews and communists were sent off for forced labor and extermination camps. I believe that Russia and China both slaughtered their Peasants after WW-2, so I imagine there were plenty of guns around. Now if the Russia and China Governments killed most of their Peasants with a gun, would it not prove that gun control doesn't work, Just look at the stats, of how many peasants were shot and killed by guns. It doesn't matter who pulls the trigger, a criminal or Government Soldier. What say you?

    • Shermer

      I'm happy to be corrected about this if I'm wrong. So, how about you find some historical evidence that 20 or 50 or 60 million peasants, however many it is, all had guns and they gave them to the government, and then the government turned around and shot them. If that's not what happened, there's no point trying to tell us it's going to happen now.

    • Herman

      Checking and rechecking my sources. Will get back to you in a few days. It looks as it may have been the peasants were put into a position where they couldn't protect them selves. So far it seems starvation and executions have been responsible for some of the deaths. Still working on how many.

    • Shermer

      Glad to see someone putting some thought into what they write around here, Herman. While you're checking, think of it this way - if the army comes and destroys your house with a tank, but they didn't confiscate an anti-tank missle you didn't even have, and there wasn't an abundance of anti-tank missiles you could have armed yourself with anyway, did they really destroy your house as a result of anti-tank missile control? Consider that when someone tells you all those peasants were killed because of gun control.

    • Herman

      supposedly, there were 13 million dissidents, Germans, Jews, Communists were exterminated before and during WW-2, by the Germans. It might be just be me, but i think that if 13 of these dissidents would have killed one Nazi soldier, SS, Gestapo or what ever between them, and the same for the next 13, and so on, there wouldn't have been any one to fight the war, or run the concentration camps. As far as the anti-tank missiles, if they destroyed my house thinking I had one then yes, they did destroy my house because of the anti-tank missile ban. Which could possibly happen if some one told them I had one. Look at what they did to a little girls Father in Canada, when she drew a picture of a gun in kindergarten. Now if you think that we would not be going down the path to Communism, if they take our guns away, you are sadly mistaken. P.S. still checking on the other.

    • Shermer

      "They" are not ging to take your guns away. There may be certain weapons you won't be allowed to buy any more, just like you can't buy a rocket launcher. But I find this continued comparison with Stalin era Russia really makes it hard to take you seriously.

    • Herman

      All you have to do is look at the tobacco laws. I knew when they started the no smoking campaign, it would not stop with the non-smoking area's in restaurants. Now what I am going to say, is just in certain area's right now, but it just might go Nation Wide. A hospital in El Paso Tx., If you are an employee, you are not allowed to smoke even at home. Certain area of the Country, you can not smoke in your own home, or in your car. Even though if you are healthy, smoke less that half a pack a day, there is a good chance smoking will not harm you at all. I imagine there are more danger from exhaust fumes cars and trucks. Gun laws are going to go the same way. Like that old saying, if you let a camel get his nose under the tent, you will soon have the camel in the tent with you. Watch, the Muslims and their Sharia Law here in the U.S. They all ready have their nose under the tent, an are working on the Blasphemy Law. And believe me it will not stop there. They will keep at it until we allow them to live in this Country under their own law, or make us all live under Sharia Law. Just like the gun laws, they will keep passing laws about guns, until the ordinary man can not afford them, or legally have one.

    • Herman

      You have to have a special federal fire arms license, to even own a automatic weapon. Never was allowed to buy a rocket launcher. Even when the "assault weapons ban was in effect, they tried to ban other types of guns also. If they can ban certain types of guns, they are going to go after the ammo. I would say that they think if they can't ban certain guns, they are going to make sure that we have no bullets to shoot in them. All you have to do is look at all the lies that Obama has told us over the years since he became a Politician, and the lies that he is telling us now, to know where this Country is headed. You might think I am Paranoid but I have every reason to be.

    • Shermer

      Sharia law? The government killing you by the millions? I'm sorry Herman, but I'm done with this.

    • Herman

      There a a few other web sites I follow. Creeping Sharia, The End Begins, WindsorCorAct!forAmerica, and ufohunterorguk.com. I don't just watch Fox News, I even watch Current TV, Link, MSNBC, just to get an even slant on the news. If you don't think I am right about Sharia Law, check and see whats happening in Great Britain right now, and the rest of Europe. Its been fun, if there is any thing else you need me to comment on let me know. If I don't hear from you again, take care and God Bless.

    • Herman

      There is one web side I left out, and the most important one, called Atlas Shrugs, with Pamela Geller.

    • Herman

      I must have accidently done away with a reply. There are several web sites that I watch. some of the others are Creeping Sharia, The End Begins and a few others. As far as watching new stations, I watch Fox, Current TV, MSNBC, Link. I do all this to make sure my head is not buried in sand, so to speak. Its been fun, if you ever feel you need me to comment on any view, let me know. Other wise God Bless P.S. just look at what the Muslims are doing with Sharia Law in England and Europe. Atlas Shrugs will fill you in.

    • johnanaguski

      You are correct and it will cost them sales.

    • Jude O'Connor

      I hope they suffer the consequences of doing what they want and as a citizen I'll do what I want too.

    • craneop

      They sure are. I hope they go bankrupt doing that very thing.

    • Striker

      sheriff, this old Marine salutes you! o>

    • LadyforLiberty

      I agree Striker!!
      If all citizens owning guns follow the lead of this sheriff, if all sheriffs do as this sheriff has, then maybe the Lefty, Commie,Liberal lunatics pushing control of Citizens` guns and ignoring the 2nd Amendment, MAY just get the message.
      Actually, on reflection the above listed Crazy Gang of Liberal Loons we are saddles with will probably NEVER get the message that the MAJORITY of US Citizens love and follow the Constitution!!
      That our weird and wonderful, well paid and rewarded public servants seem to want this Great Nation to have weak an defenseless citizens SHOULD BE ON EVERY TV STATION and be HEADLINES in every newspaper!!!
      Maybe if citizens canvassed their County and Local Sheriff on this topic??
      If all PDs took this stance, maybe, just maybe, the elected people whose PC stance has done so much damage to the society schooling and attitudes, would eventually get the message that THEY, work for US!!
      Seems when you employ a servant, if they do not wash the dishes or mow the lawn as required, .....they get fired!!!!
      Maybe more "FIRING" should be done when the next mid terms come around, (and more importantly, we should use this option in local elections where electees suggest we not own guns)!!
      Only if citizens make it clear to the self opinionated bozos who insist on IGNORING the will of the people, will we get the politicians we deserve!
      Keep up the pressure sheriff, you seem to have become the second most popular law enforcement officer after Sheriff Joe Arapio of Arizona!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/Lremmell64 Lorena Hess Remmell

      110% behind Sheriff Barry!!

    • Justin

      Clearly this is an abuse of the taxpayers money. The money is not the Sheriff's. He should be getting the public the best deal and not using public dollars to support those people who's politics he likes. If the best deal on the guns is from this provider, and the Sheriff pays more because he likes the politics of someone else better, he's abused his discretion.

    • Striker

      shut up already! You're making my eyes bleed!

    • Justin

      If you read these comments you get the impression that if this Sheriff
      only bought supplies from Democrats at twice the price that would be
      fine right? Because it's his money and not the taxpayers?

      Oh wait. It's not his money is it? It's the taxpayers money and he
      should be getting then best deal he can, not pushing a private political
      agenda with the People's money? That's what I think.

    • Justin

      But medaveh can't really stand UP for the Sheriff's reprehensible use of taxpayers money. Of course, medaveh would be upset if this Sheriff was paying more for the same guns based on politics he didn't agree with.

    • Justin

      If you read these comments you get the impression that if this Sheriff
      only bought supplies from Democrats at twice the price that would be
      fine right? Because it's his money and not the taxpayers?

    • Justin

      If you read these comments you get the impression that if this Sheriff
      only bought supplies from Democrats at twice the price that would be
      fine right? Because it's his money and not the taxpayers?

    • Justin

      It's not his money is it? It's the taxpayers money and he
      should be getting the best deal he can, not pushing a private political
      agenda with the People's money? That's what I think.

  • http://www.facebook.com/forrer.andrew Andrew Forrer

    hooray for sherrif berry

  • http://www.facebook.com/todd.a.peterson.3 Todd A. Peterson

    Well, I applaud this American! Anyone who is willing to stand up for my rights to bear arms and not support those who want to render Americans defenseless has my voice of support. Thank You Sir! for your service and stance.

    • oldcoyote

      I agree with all three above!!

    • squeak

      Thank you for your service...God Bless !

    • Shermer

      As a private business, are they not entitled to sell whatever they want to whoever they want?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-William-Swigart/1425304242 Scott William Swigart

      That is correct, Shermer. Also, as private citizens, we are entitled to buy items from any store we chose and DSS just removed themselves from the list of a LOT of people.

      If a store, such as DSS, resorts to the actions that have just chose and tells private citizens 'screw you', then citizens have the same right to 'go elsewhere' for their firearms, ammo and accessories needs.

      I haven't shopped at K-Mart for years. Why? K-Mart pulled all of their weapons off the rack the day of 911. For that bonehead manuever and ever since, I nor my family shop there. WE have chosen not to ever spend another dime there and it doesn't matter how much they put items on sale. It wouldn't matter if they were giving away mechandise, I wouldn't take it for free

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Glen-Thompson/1763182428 Glen Thompson

      Did not know this about K-Mart. Thank you and we will react the same.

    • Phil

      Here's another item for your information packet. K-Mart is owned by Sears
      Roebuck. Haven't been in a Sears for years(should have been a poet). Do they still sell guns?

    • LockandLoad

      Actually K-Mart purchased Sears. I will no longer shop there either!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003779037959 Ronald L. Hughes

      ditto

    • 60milesfrommexico

      Ditto!

    • Eileen

      Scott!!! Thank you! Some other HORRIBLE things you didn't know about K-Mart.....My husband works for an Advertising Agency and the company had to freeze the raises for all the employees because K-Mart didn't tell them that they were not going to pay their bills at about the same time they were being purchased by Sears. I won't shop at Sears for another reason. They promote porno with animals on there web site. The FCC won't force them to remove it because the United States government has recently approved the same for Military members, yes our Military has been approved to have sex with animals. It's the most disgusting thing I have ever had the DIS- pleasure to know. I want to vomit and I tell everyone I know about these two companies I can. And they say ignorance is bliss??I say it's disgusting! Shame on all of them...I pray every time I think of them that their businesses will fall apart.

    • http://www.facebook.com/khelmar Alex Greenfield

      What are you talking about regarding sears and animal porno? And no the military does not allow bestiality http://www.stripes.com/news/sex-with-animals-still-not-ok-in-us-military-1.162890

    • SJvet

      Sears has been marketing porno, whether animal or not, for quite awhile. I've written to them and they assured me they were removing all items, but they keep coming back. I haven't checked lately.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Horton/100000278827311 Jeff Horton

      LOL I return anything my family gives as a gift from Wal-Mart as well.

    • pateboo

      That's how I feel about Walmart. My mom passed away and was a member of Sam's Club, they sent my dad a renewal bill that he didn't pay, he didn't know it was an auto renewal and ignored it. They threatened to ruin his credit rating. And the real kicker is their finances were handled by GE, the company I used to get my paycheck from. I have a theory I call The theory of THREE, three major companies are going to own everybody some day. Then the government will say they have a monopoly and break them down, and it will start all over again with the buying up of companies. Big fish swallowing the little fish.

    • LockandLoad

      As did I!

    • socialisimmustgo

      shermer is rarely correct ,shermer is the devils advocate, no usa corporation has the right to interfere purposely with enalienable rights which shall not be infringed ........they are infringing so they should be banned from us business! as traitors!

    • cg

      I dont think your understanding free market,yes true they can sell whatever to whoever,but suppose govnt took your money (tax) bought all bread milk your family needs, then tells you sorry u cant buy that , but if you stand in line over hear maybe youll get some, this 2nd ammendment issue just needs to drop and be left alone, only thing killing people is people, once our bill of rights gets infringed upon we the people are to step in and put stop to it, taken that away youve now become a subject of a dictator.

    • DCW16

      Maybe we could get them to stop selling crappy hondas at their Honda stores . . . how would that work out do you think? I am sure Hondas have killed far more people since introduced in the early 70's than any semi-auto rifles . . . in fact the Honda Accord only got its FIRST 5 STAR Safety rating about 7 years ago.

    • http://www.facebook.com/sarge43 Charles McVey

      Yes and the Sheriff is also allowed to decide from whom his department will purchase Law-enforcement equipment from, just as I am allowed to decide what business I will support.

    • 60milesfrommexico

      As a private business Dana Safety Suppy IS entitled to sell to whomever they wish. HOWEVER- As a (government & private) firearms purchaser, Sheriff Barry has the same right to take his department's, and his personal business elsewhere. I would encourage others to do the same.

    • rightsman

      If a business offers items for sale, anyone of legal age with the money has the right to buy it. For DSS to refuse to sell to a certain segment of the population is discriminatory on its face and is actionable at law. Peace, Robert Walker

    • Shermer

      Would you also apply that standard to a photographer who refused to provide his service at a same-sex wedding?

    • Steve

      No. A photographer provides a "service" first and foremost. By being AT the "wedding" their are participating. If they choose not to be there they have that right.

    • Shermer

      Just what I expected.

    • correct

      @rightsman - not true. Should gun dealers be forced to sell weapons to a person they believe to be mentally unstable but cannot provide any evidence? A business has every right to deny sales to anyone for any reason. If they refuse to sell to certain people, then they have lost that income and will become weaker than their competitors.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Horton/100000278827311 Jeff Horton

      And as a private citizen I have a right not to do business. If they sell guns to ANY organization but not me that is discrimination. We have a right to know who they are so we do not do business.

    • Shermer

      I assume you'd take the same view of a wedding photographer who refused to do business with a same-sex couple?

    • http://www.facebook.com/sfret Jim Laubler

      You're correct. And, that goes both ways (Sheriff AND other Consumers)
      AND, we can lawfully organize our opposition.

    • socialisimmustgo

      no shermer they are not entitled to take tax revenue from American citizens and then deny them legal access to a product which is a right that shall not be infringed ! by rule of law or otherwise! And the otherwise is what is happening in the here and now unless everyone in the world wants to be an indoctrinated strawman slave to an invaded and usurped criminal corporation that extorts revenue for international agendas that are not the will of the people......the only real entitlements in the usa are those which are prescribed as enalienable rights under our constitution ........suppression or restriction or regulation of any of them is a direct assault on them all! which is what we are faced with an assault upon them all by criminal corporations running the executive branch of our government! they are traitors committting treason! odds are there is a few rotten apples in a barrel of 300 million these rotten apples are criminals not a reason to burn the constitution as if it hasnt stood for anything for two centuries!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003779037959 Ronald L. Hughes

      Ditto!

    • Black Rain

      It's been said the sheriff is the law of the county, no matter what law is passed by the federal or state law. If the sheriff believes it to be unconstitutional, he does not have to force is residents to obey the unlawful law.
      Thank you Sheriff Scott Barry. Thank you for your service, your a great American.

    • socialisimmustgo

      The Sherrif won't have the support of his elected base if they all turn out to be cowards who turn over their arms and don't want to face or stand against a tyrannical government who sold us out to foreign international corporations with agendas and stand by and let nato invade us with an international peace keeping force lol ......peace keeping lol , agenda 21 troops is what they are!
      and agenda 21 is disarm and enslave Americans! the laws Americans have lived under for a century have been unlawful regulations coming from the usurped executive branch!

    • Black Rain

      United Nation peace comes he/she will be meet with lead. That's the only way they will get my firearms. I've had my AR since 1970 when Uncle Sam was done with me. I really like having it around. :-) it talks sweet when it find the trigger. I use it to target practice and hunt. Someone says you can't hunt with an AR, call them a liar.
      2nd Amendment is not about hunting or self-defense, it's about keeping government in check. Some representative tells you we are going to restrict your firearm ownership of AR, they are wanting a dictator for a leader. And that my friend are fighting words. They want my AR so bad, they came take it away from me themselves, after I'm dead.
      What happen to upholding the constitution. No one in congress does that anymore. Time to replace congress.

    • socialisimmustgo

      now if we can get everyone else to agree with your proper asessment then we will be getting somewhere i think the hell of genocide is coming just like the 61 million plus unarmed christians in 1917 in Russia and we are supposed to just turn in our firearms and trust the corporation clowns of the crown corporation...........they really think we are stupid thry want to bind us in the darkness of our ignorance ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL
      restore the republic and evict the crown corporation from our nation!