Woman Heckled By Anti-Gun Advocates For Wanting To Defend Children

Ah yes, this is what the war on women really looks like. Senior Fellow of the Independent Women’s Forum Gayle Trotter gave testimony on Wednesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee. "An assault weapon in the hands of a young woman defending her babies at her home becomes a defense weapon,” Trotter said as the heckling began. “Guns are the great equalizer during a violent confrontation.”

Pick up Trotter's testimony at the 44:30 mark:

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) demonstrates that he should carry the title of "knucklehead" as he told Baltimore County, Maryland Police Chief James Johnson (God love you people in the Baltimore area, because Police Chief Johnson doesn't love you or the Second Amendment of the Constitution) about the issues of armed police officers respond to an event where there are armed and "untrained" school teachers trying to defend students in a school. Obviously his biggest problem is assuming that armed, and I highly doubt "untrained" teachers, would have not neutralized the situation before police could arrive.

While Johnson pointed to an incident that happened between on duty personnel within the police department shooting one of their own as evidence that arming teachers was a bad thing, it really doesn't help his case for armed police officers arriving on scene at a school does it? I think not. Surely, most teachers would discern the difference between children and a lone gunman who was shooting at them.

Whitehouse then turned to Ms. Trotter and said, "Sarah McKinley, in defending her home, use a Remington 870 Express 12 gauge shotgun that would not be banned under the statute, correct?"

When Trotter said she didn't know what type of weapon, Whitehouse said "Trust me, that's what it was." While it was the weapon, Whitehouse's point is irrelevant to the Second Amendment, which is at the heart of the controversy in this issue. However, Trotter wanted to point distinguish between "ordinary firearms" and "100 round magazine" firearms, which instruments that hold 100 rounds are normally termed as "drums."

She then took him to task by respectfully disagreeing. "I also understand that you are a graduate of the University of the Virginia School of Law and you are close to Monticello, where Thomas Jefferson penned our Declaration of Independence, and close to Montpelier, where James Madison was instrumental in drafting the Bill of Rights. I think you can understand that, as a woman, I think it's very important not to place undue burdens on our right to choose to defend ourselves."

Feeling the pinch of "right to choose" and Second Amendment, the Senator tried to interject, but Trotter would have none of it. She continued, "I don't know what weapon she used, but..."

Trotter then went on to try and hold her to one example that she used in her argument, which was McKinley and a double barreled shotgun. He kept pointing back and saying that weapon was not considered under the proposed Feinstein legislation.

"So would it have been unreasonable for her to use a different gun to protect her child," Trotter shot back.

Whitehouse started to make an argument and then backtracked stating that he thought she would have adequate ability to protect her family without having a 100 round piece of weaponry. Obviously, he wasn't interested in dealing with the most common 30 round magazines in his argument, but is attempting to bolster the argument emotionally, because, after all, it is an emotional argument.

"How can you say that?" Trotter asked. "You are a a large man...a tall, tall man. You are not a young mother, who has a young child with her."

Trotter went on to passionately speak about a woman in the home with her child, inexperienced in a firefight, on the phone with 911 and unable to get police to her fast enough.

The Senator dismissed her by stating that McKinley took care of things, which she did.

But the bigger issue is the Second Amendment and the Second Amendment doesn't limit people to shotguns, though they are very effective in home defense. The Second Amendment isn't just about women protecting children, though that is certinaly within the parameters of it. It's about keeping people like Senator Whitehouse, Senator Feinstein and Barack Obama, as well as, armies that would be mounted against us by a tyrannical government from doing so while we sit by with less equal arms. There should be no arms restrictions placed into law by the Federal government and all such that have been are necessarily unlawful, for the Second Amendment is clear when it states that the right to keep and bear arms, for the security of a free state, "shall not be infringed."

David Kopel, who is a policy analyst for CATO Institute and Denver University professor, gave similar testimony to that of Trotter in written testimony. “A woman in Great Britain is three times more likely to be raped than an American woman,” his testimony reads. “Overall, the violent crime rate in England and Wales is far above the American rate. Using the standard definition for the four most common major violent crimes: homicide, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault.”

Kopel also went on to demonstrate how ineffective Feinstein's ban was the first time around. “In 2005 the National Institute of Justice study found that the 1994-2004 the manufacture or import of such magazines had no discernible benefit,” he said. “Mandating universal background checks will only work with universal gun registration.”

Newly elected Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) echoed Kopel's statements by citing Bill Clinton's Department of Justice. “Assault weapons ban failed to reduce the average number of victims of gun murder and incidents of multiple,” he said. “Under it there has been no discernible reduction the lethality and injuriousness of violence.”

Thoughout the hearings there was hecklings and mockings at both the Second Amendment and the Founding Fathers

Instead of being focused on the weapons ban legislation that Senator Dianne Feinstein 9D-CA) introduced, the hearing turned to universal background checks and the lack of prosecutions, specifically under the Obama Justice Department, which we have documented.

While several Democrats pushed for universal background checks claiming falsely that “40 percent of all guns sold don’t go through a background check.”

Even more lies were presented as Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT) said there was no federal punishment for straw purchasing, in spite of the fact that there is.

The National Rifle Association's Wayne LaPierre said that Feinstein's bill is "based on falsehoods that people not familiar with firearms don't understand, and that adding universal background checks will only lead to a "universal nightmare." I'll add in that it will add a universal increase in cost, as well as, bureaucracy.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/howard.grant.90 Howard Grant

    The Second Admendent gives us the right to keep and to bear arms without being infringed. Therefore we have the right to carry a gun without a permit.

  • Breeze13

    Every politician should have a backround check like any gunbuyer and see if they can LEGALLY work in OUR country. If they cannot pass both of these, they should not be allowed to vote on any proposed law. We don't need to support the criminals.
    "The duty of a true patriot is to protect his country from it's government."
    Thomas Paine

  • john sr

    what?? are women supposed to be nothing but reproduction machines? the individuals in washington have no moral brains left. man and woman are the moral foundation since civilized people walked on two feet. what gives this administration the right to dictate gay rights? where there are none to give. marriage is legal under God not between the same sex but opposites. given the fact that being gay is a figment of the perverted mind, than most of congress is of this nature and shall be deemed upon their own usage of what they bring upon themselves. the perverts in congress shall reep their own demise.

  • Marta

    It says "arms" not what KIND.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pizzed.off Pizzed Off

    It was difficult to determine who was kissing whom's ass with greater love, Feinstein's on the Chief's or the Chief's on her's.
    It's interesting how Feinstein, and the Chief both use a lot of adjectives to put their agenda through rather than use unemotional words to show rational thought instead of emotional outbursts. The Chief is armed, Feinstein has security guards, and both are hypocrites.
    The Chief's repeated reference to a "good background check" belies LaPierre's clear factual statement that of the 10's of thousands of those caught in the act of trying to acquire a firearm illegally- Holder only convicted 22! So they're useless.
    If this POS legislation passes it's going to cause a LOT of trouble... and worse.

    • http://www.facebook.com/pizzed.off Pizzed Off

      Forgot to add that master of manipulation, Schumer. Being from NY, which has had on the books a mandatory 5 year sentence, no reduction, for use of a firearm in the commission of a crime. This law has been there for close to 20 years. Since then there have been thousands of gun-related crimes. In that ENTIRE time I have yet to be able to discover 1, ONE! application of that law in sentencing. So much for Democrats applying law. Notice, if you listened, that Clinton's AND Obama's administrations did not and DO NOT apply the laws. Note- those are DEMOCRAT administrations. Bush saw them rise significantly after Clinto pulled them down, and now we see them back to virtually nothing under Obama.
      Makes one wonder, since both those administrations are favored by Blacks, have shown a distinct adversion to prosecuting gun purchasers who, statistically use guns more in criminal endeavors, and are Black. Seems racist to me.

  • Jeff

    My big issue about any time gun rights folks mention the failures of draconian gun control such as in Chicago, etc. the typical reaction from the banners is that criminals buy guns in neighboring cities or states and bring them into Chicago. Well duh!!! It's called the black market! Even if there was a federal ban on all firearms, there is a HUGE demand for firearms and ammo, etc. If shipping containers of narcotics can make it through the cracks, guns can too.

    Did these banners learn anything from Al Capone or the cartels down south? Where there is a demand, there will be a supply. One way or another, it will happen. The simple fact is that regardless of what firearms laws are, the bad guys will get them, keep them, and use them.

    Anybody else see how 3D printers can create functional (not reliable or durable) guns?

    The Feinstein legislation is a pie in the sky, unconstitutional abomination.

    I realize that politicians and the MSM is doing their level best to gather the lemmings, but we all must think about what works and what doesn't work.

    As it pertains to the profile of these mentally ill, socially challenged perpetrators of mass murder episodes, as despicable and horrendous as they are, a preventative rather than reactive solution is much preferred. This takes active accountability on the part of parents, guardians, parents, friends, etc. In the age of social media, there should be plenty of warning of "ticking time bombs" such as Adam Lanza. Secondly there must be recourse to deal with these cases. I realize that the vast majority of those with mental illness are more likely to be the victims of violence rather than the perpetrator. But, to allow obviously dangerous people to have the same freedoms and liberties that the general population enjoy is unacceptable. We have seen the results.

    Obviously there are instances of negligence that are putting weapons in dangerous hands. There should be a campaign to inform firearm safety either through a public service announcement or vouchers for firearms training. Certainly money better spent than on the gun control lobby.

    Ignorance on the part of a gun owner is never an excuse for what may happen with a firearm in the wrong hands. Someone that can afford an AR-15 can also afford a gun safe. I have seen optics that are far more expensive than a decent gun safe....

    End of line.

  • socialisimmustgo

    Man wasn't that something what confuses me is I don't understand why it would be that we need Al Franken a comedian writer performer from saturday night live involved with this act did he write the script ? Just weird ! secondly they complain about a lot of stuff from problems in particular locals
    well why haven't they done something about it in the states and the municipalities where the problem is .......why is it they go to congress or senate looking to federally regulate and ban what the states and the people already have right authority and power to do? within reason any body can be brought up on federal firearms charges as long as they get off their butts and prosecute the cases then the criminals would stop or leave and go where they won't be prosecuted sounds to me like there is dereliction in duties if they can't enforce all the laws they already have !
    The power to regulate firearms was not delegated to the federal braanch anyhow it was delegated to the states and the people of the states amendment ten delegates that authority which if the federal acts to regulate they will be usurping the powers thereof and infringing on the second!
    the second amendment doesnt say anything about the peoples right to keep and bare shall be regulated by the federal branch and i question that any ruling rendered by the supreme court beyond reaffirming the second amendment is stretching or excedding their scope or authority beyond that if they suggest that the federal branch has authority over any regulation of it!
    sso as far as i am concerned federal reulations are infringements and sate law is state law unless it directly infinges on the second amendment ..........and one thing about state and local law is it's easier to change if needed.

  • http://twitter.com/DonBahn1 Don Bahn

    Unfortunately the national traffic safety and insurance companies have forced safety equipment into the automobiles, Stupid is only cured by death not safety devices.

  • James Maxwell

    Makes you wonder how they would react if they lost their armed guards that protect then
    and their families? How would they feel if it was their mother, sister, daughter who was
    attacked by some criminal when a firearm would have made the differince between living
    are being molested and killed? These fools are beyond beleif and how they have survived
    is beyond me on many different levels.

    • James Idol

      To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead!! Thomas Payne

  • http://www.facebook.com/karen.boswell.58 Karen Boswell

    So let me see if I understand this - according to a leftist - as a woman I have the right to choose to kill a baby via abortion anytime or anywhere but I don't have the right to chose the kind of weapon I want to kill an instruder in my house or a criminal accosting me on the street?

  • freedomringsforall

    There will always be somewhere else that the criminals like obama, holder, and others can illegally traffic guns to and from.

    Only the law abiding citizens will be the ones not trafficking the guns to the gun free zones and so only the law abiding citizens will be vulnerable to getting slaughtered by guns.

    The police can only get there after the slaughter or possibly sometimes after the shooter is well into the slaughter.

    So, in the gun free zone the only victims are the law abiding citizens.

  • Paul Poole

    The only answer to these politicians is to run them out of D.C. at the point of a barrel!! There are a few good politicians that we can start over with!!

  • 1911A1

    The second amendment is part of the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs. I love the fact that we as Americans can have these choices, argue the points, and arm our homes as we please. And, as spiritual descendants of the real men of the Declaration of Independence, we will arm our houses first, and ask the govt's permission later.

  • Smirking Wolf

    Shotguns are excellent home defense guns but they are difficult to wield in an enclosed restricted area under crisis conditions.

    ""and “untrained” school teachers trying to defend students in a school. "" Let's move from the fog of disillusionment which engulfs these anti-gun folks and remember this lil tidbit which is blazed into my memory: within hours of the Sandy Hook shootings one of the SAndy Hook teachers waa being interviewed by an MSM talking head and the teachers made the comment to her elementary students something like " and I told them those of you who believe in prayer should pray now and the rest of you should think happy thoughts.." My thought is that she were disciplined enough to go on a national interview wthin hours of the shootings and be disciplined enough to remain so politically correct as taught by the AFT and NEA, then she should be disciplined enough to learn how to use a firearm to protect her students. This person is in charge of our kids?

    • unwillingvictime

      Yeah right! I can just see some frail mother who just gave birth a couple of months ago trying to hold her child, call 911, and use a 12 gauge shotgun at the same time, AND HIT SOMETHING! I know even in my case, a handgun is my preferred weapon of choice. Has that idiot ever shot a 12 gauge shotgun?? Probably not if he thinks that way! Then again, almost every time I see him he is smiling. If ignorance is bliss, he must be the happiest man on earth! As for limits in magazine size, I have seen trained law enforcement empty their weapon without hitting a criminal when the adrenaline is flowing. How the hell can they justify only ten rounds for someone trying to protect themselves?? ARRGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!

  • Dean

    Why do we need to explain ourselves to our out of control employees? They don't rate that!

    • http://www.facebook.com/anthony.soro.3 Anthony Soro

      well I know how you feel but if we dont they will do more harm than good as you have seen,

  • http://twitter.com/AlRoberts3 Al Roberts

    The rhetoric was controlled by the liberals. And every VALID point that the conservatives made did NOT make it to the Television.
    Keep the phone calls going in. Make sure you call Feinstein, Leahy, and Whitehouse even if you don't live in their state. If YOU don't call, ALL they will hear is from the idiots who don't know history.

    • http://www.facebook.com/anthony.soro.3 Anthony Soro

      well I watched it on c-span yesterday as it was happening, But are you saying they left out things by editing them before we saw it ? If so how can you tell? I wouldnt put it passed them but how would you be sure ? asoro at cox. net let me know

    • unwillingvictime

      It doesn't matter worth a damn if you contact them! I have contacted each of the four in RI and got squat! All I got is a bunch of BS rhetoric that made little sense! If their heads were the size of their brains, a peanut shell would be way to big for a hat! For the life of me I cannot figure how the hell they all got back in. I will be working to get those running in 2014 the hell out! Sadly not one has abides by his oath to defend the Constitution and Whitehouse is one of them!

  • IddiKlu

    You can't fix stupid, and we have too much of that in Washington...

  • jsmithcsa

    I'd rather have my kids that a million anti-freedom dopes.