Joe Biden: ‘We Don’t Have Time To Prosecute Everybody Who Lies’ On Background Checks


bidenSo the Federal government wants to put more gun control legislation on the books, but they don’t want to enforce the current laws. Barack Obama wants universal background checks on guns, but doesn’t seem willing to do his job when it comes to enforcing the laws behind background checks. This came out during a meeting between Vice President Joe Biden and Jim Baker of the National Rifle Association. According to an interview that Baker gave with the Daily Caller, he said that Biden told him, “regarding the lack of prosecutions on lying on Form 4473s, we simply don’t have the time or manpower to prosecute everybody who lies on a form, that checks a wrong box, that answers a question inaccurately.”

Baker also said he was only given five minutes to present the NRA’s concerns and approaches to prevent massacres like the shooting that took place in Newtown, Connecticut. While He pointed out the low number of prosecutions for information falsification and the low felony prosecution rate for gun crimes, it didn’t seem to sway Biden in the least.

According to the Bureaus Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide, anyone submitting false information on ATF Form 4473 commits a felony punishable by up to ten years in prison.

One would think that with the administration’s call to “get the guns out of the hands of criminals,” that they would be genuinely interested in prosecuting said criminals, but as reported earlier, this administration simply wants to go after guns. They are not interested in enforcing the law, which by the way, is their job as the Executive Branch.

In a report titled Enforcement of the Brady Act, 2010: Federal and State Investigations and Prosecutions of Firearm Applicants Denied by a NICS Check in 2010 that was authored by Ronald J. Frandsen and funded by tax payers through the U.S. Department of Justice and received in August of 2012, there was a report of 72,659 applications to purchase firearms that were denied (See Table A below).

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National Instant Criminal Background Check System reported that the most common reasons for denial fell into three categories. Thirty-four thousand four hundred fifty-nine denials for felony indictment or conviction were issued, making it 47.4% of the reason for denial of applications to purchase or transfer a firearm. Another 13,862 were denied because of being a fugitive, which amounted to 19.1% of denials. Finally, 7,666 people had their application denied because of State law prohibition, which made up 10.6% of denials.

In delayed denials, according to the report, “the agent contacts the firearm purchaser and seizes or takes an abandonment of the firearm or coordinates a transfer of the firearm to a licensed dealer or to a third party who is not a prohibited person. In POC states, a retrieval may be handled by local law enforcement, a statewide firearms unit, or ATF. In addition to the delayed denials, a small number of 2010 standard denials potentially involved unlawful firearm possession. Field offices investigated a total of 1,923 unlawful possession cases that began in 2010. A retrieval of a firearm (or firearms) from a prohibited person by field agents occurred in 1,164 (about 61%) of the cases. The subject of the investigation was cleared in 509 cases (approximately 27%). About 93% of the cases had been resolved by December 13, 2010, with the subject missing in nearly 7% of the cases.”

However in the chart that follows that assessment, they indicate that 128 of those delayed denials they were unable to locate and 122 had other outcomes. Together they total 13% of delayed denials, which means that at the least a little over half of those still possess the firearm they acquired.

When it comes to actual prosecutions by U.S. attorneys, here’s how the numbers break down. In Table 4 below these are the numbers of cases that the ATF declined to refer for prosecution and the reasons why.

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Table 5. shows a total of 62 cases in 2010 that ATF referred for prosecution. Note the reasons for the referral.

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Table. 6 shows that out of these 62, only 44 of those were prosecuted.

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Caroline May at the DC reports the responses of the NRA representatives to Biden’s comments and the Justice Department’s lack of prosectution:

“We think it is problematic when the administration takes lightly the prosecutions under existing gun laws and yet does not seem to have a problem promoting a whole host of other gun laws,” Baker told The DC.

“If we are not going to enforce the laws that are on the books, it not only engenders disrespect for the law but it makes law-abiding gun owners wonder why we are going through this exercise we are going through now,” he added.

“They don’t have time to pursue people who are dangerous, who aren’t supposed to get guns, and the message they have sent is literally ‘Good luck, go get them elsewhere,’” Chris Cox, the executive director of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action, said in an interview with TheDC.

Just keep this in mind when the Obama administration comes out trying to talk about “respecting the Constitution” and saying, “I’m not going to take your guns.” They do this in the midst of talking about keeping guns out of the hands of a few criminals, but they are failing to follow through with prosecution of the law and that isn’t a biased opinion, it’s the words of Obama’s vice president.

As I’ve said before, the real issue here is not safety. It’s not about “the children” and it’s not even about a few people with semi-automatic rifles, it’s about a direct assault on the Second Amendment. I just wonder when we are going to be getting a full and complete background check on the man occupying the Oval Office.

UPDATE: I received a CC on an email from Colorado Sheriff Ron Bruce in which he really let’s Vice President Joe Biden have it. Bruce writes:

Mr. Vice-President-

These actions are 100% bullshit (a word I knew you would understand). My Sheriff’s Office will oppose these processes with all our might and will encourage our residents to do the same thing. This does absolutely nothing to protect anyone. The federal government has failed to enforce hundreds and perhaps thousands of gun laws currently on the books. This has nothing to do with protection but has everything to do with subjugation.

Not so respectfully,

Sheriff R.B. Bruce, Hinsdale County, Colorado





  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Justin-Russell/1070331271 Justin Russell

    Umm… you do realize background checks are done by the police records, not an application process where you “say what you did” right?

  • blinddemocrat

    Then I assume they don’t have time for more gun laws……………….Idiot.

  • labar

    So they’ll just focus on those who are not registered Dems. It’s just like the claim that they actually are rounding up and deporting illegals who have criminal records

  • http://www.facebook.com/jvanellen Jerri McCall

    Lets just seal our backgroung, seems to be legal!

  • http://www.facebook.com/gary.frazier1 Gary Frazier

    With the current administration heading into their second term, it doesn’t appear they have th time, intellect, intestinal fortitude (GUTS, in case you don’t understand) or BALLS, for that matter, to do their jobs!

  • CharlieSeattle

    Obama Could Not Pass a Background Check

    President Barack Obama could not pass a background check if he was applying for a gun permit or a job. Why has this man been allowed to remain in office or take the oath for a second time?

    During the 2008 campaign, it was known that:
    His official, long form birth records were SEALED.
    His Occidental College records were SEALED.
    His Columbia College records were SEALED.
    His Harvard College records were SEALED.
    His College thesis – SEALED.
    His Harvard Law Review articles – SEALED.
    His Indonesian adoption records – SEALED.
    His passport file – SEALED.
    His medical records – Unavailable
    His baptism records – Unavailable
    His papers from his service in the Illinois legislature – Unavailable
    His Illinois State Bar Association records – Unavailable

    The birth certificate that the White House released is reputed by document experts to be false.

    The Social Security number he has used was issued to someone else. He could not pass an E-Verify test. The first three numbers of his Social Security ID are reserved for applicants with Connecticut addresses, 040-049. The number was issued between 1977 and 1979. Obama’s earliest employment reportedly was in 1975 at a Baskin-Robbins in Oahu, Hawaii.

    Many of the “facts” he cited in his two memoirs have turned out to be questionable, if not outright lies; particularly as regards his birth father, a citizen of Kenya at the time of his birth.

    A job applicant with Obama’s paper trail would not even pass the smell test, but this man was elected and reelected. The role of journalism is to vet the credentials of anyone running for public office, let alone the highest office in the land. Instead, he has been protected against all inquiries and those making them have been called “birthers” or simply ignored.

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  • gbandy

    Can you imagine if they prosecuted woman who lied on their drivers licenses? I know many women who would now be in jail for their weight declarations.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Randy-Phillips/1058697065 Randy Phillips

    They don’t have the time or manpower to prosecute the people that violate the laws that are existing, but they want to make millions of law abiding citizens criminals for owning High Capicity magazines? How is that going to work? Sounds like someone is going to increase the amount of judges and law enforcement to cover all of the new criminals.

  • Roger E.
  • Tonto

    Bless you, Sheriff Bruce!

  • Tonto

    Does grandpa or grandson have to pass background check for heirloom family-owned shotgun? Who will be prosecuted?

  • Tonto

    “Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.”  – Mohandas Ghandi, An Autobiography, page 446

    911 may take three to five minutes to reach your house.  My AR-15 responds at 3,200 feet per second.

     
     
     
     
     
     
     

  • Fran1

    There are some things for which one makes time. If more time were spent on enforcing the current laws and less time making new ones, we’d have less need for new laws. Typical government worker paper shuffler mentality. I’m not going to fix dinner tonight because I don’t have time for it. Right, that’s going to happen. How pathetic can this administration get? Biden is too lazy to even find a good excuse for his ineptness.

  • sovereigntyofone

    OH, I get it now. That’s why Obama got to be president in the first place !
    ” Joe Biden: ‘We Don’t Have Time To Prosecute Everybody Who Lies’ On Background Checks ” That explains it all doesn’t it.

  • warpmine

    How about those that are ineligible to POTUS. Can we at least begin there?

  • hollygreen9

    What is the phone call for when the gun shop calls it in? Sounds like a whole lot of BS to me!

  • JMWinPR

    Do I understand this? He spent 100′s of millions of dollars applying for a job. He took an oath stating he would fulfill his obligations, now he says he “doesn’t have time to do his job”.
    Sounds like an impeachable offense to me. I’ll bet even a CSEA employee would be fired for this.

  • GrizzMann

    Quiz. How many laws did the killer break before he started killing teachers and students? What would have stopped the killer from doing this? What law would this killer have obeyed?

  • pcsrocky

    So they don’t have time to enforce the laws already on the books. Do they even know if the laws already on the books, not being enforced, are what is necessary to keep guns from the hands of people who shouldn’t have them?

    Oops, criminals are not supposed to have guns and they seem to always have them and usually the automatic and semi-automatic variety.
    Laws are for the law abiding citizens, criminals already don’t abide by the laws. More laws won’t make them suddenly abide by them!

  • http://twitter.com/torre_felice Felice Torre

    But we should find time to prosecute Joe Biden and his boss for crimes against the American people. Subversion of the US Constitution is sedition! What are we waiting for?