Feinstein Says She Wants To Go After More Than Just "Assault Weapons"


Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) appeared on CNN's State of the Union on Sunday told host Candy Crowley that the push for gun bans won't just be about her alleged "assault weapons." Today, she basically updated her 1995 60 Minutes interview where she said, "Mr. & Mrs. America, Turn ‘Em All In."

Feinstein told Candy Crowely that it has "always been an uphill battle," pointing to her "assault weapons ban" bill. "This is the hardest of the hard," she said.

"Will it only be 'assault weapons'?" she asked. "No," she declared, answering her own question. "Most likely there will be a package put together."

"If assault weapons is left out the package and I'm a member of the Judiciary, number two in seniority, I've been assured by the majority leader I'll be able to do it as an amendment on the floor, which is the way I did it in 1993," she said. "So that doesn't particularly bother me. What does bother me is I've seen weapons spawned and grown and now in the hands of younger and younger people over these years."

Sen. Feinstein said, "I think enough is enough. Do military style 'assault weapons' belong on the streets of our cities? And the answer, according the United States Conference of Mayors, according to major chiefs of police, according to the largest police organization in the world, is absolutely 'No.'"

Pardon me, but the traitor Senator from California failed to mention the only thing that does matter when dealing with this issue and that is "according to the United States Constitution" the do belong in the hands of American citizens. Let me be blunt. The Constitution doesn't give a damn about any of the organizations she cited and what they think. If she and these organizations think things need to be changed why don't they put forth an amendment to the Constitution? But they don't do that because they know better. Frankly, she and all those who have taken an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States and have supported such measures as she has put forth should be put under arrest, tried, and if found guilty of treason against the United States Constitution, which shouldn't be hard to prove, should be publicly executed for such actions.

While Feinstein claims to have the support of these organizations, notice she does not have the support of the one thing that does matter and that is the United States Constitution.

She was asked if she would concede that the weapons ban she has put forth is a "tough road."

She conceded that it was a tough road, but said it was because, "The NRA is venal." This comes from one of the most corrupt politicians warming a seat in the United States Senate!

"They come after you, " she said. "They put together large amounts of money to defeat you. They did this in '93 and they intend to continue it, while the opposite can take place too."

When asked if the NRA was really "venal" or was it that they simply disagreed with her on a matter of policy, Feinstein responded, "The NRA has become an institution of gun manufacturers. This morning, on the front page of the New York Times, I was reading about their program now to provide weapons and training for youngsters from eight years old to fifteen years old and this is supported by the gun manufacturers. In other words, here is a whole other group of people that we can get these weapons to. They just don't happen to be adults, they're children."

The National Rifle Association is not an institution of gun manufacturers. It's an association of people who support the Second Amendment. One hundred thousand gun manufacturers didn't join the NRA last month. Individuals did.

I certainly have disagreed with the NRA's Shield program, but I firmly believe in the NRA's program to train and educate young kids about gun safety and proper gun use. This will maintain the next generation so that people like Dianne Feinstein fear those of us who properly understand the Second Amendment and realize it is put there to defend ourselves against ogre politicians such as herself, who are the real venal people in the matter, gaining too much money and power from anti-gun lobbies to attack the United States Constitution and in the process, attack the American people. Senator Feinstein doesn't have a clue that the Second Amendment is to keep government and those in it, like herself, from doing exactly what she wants to do and that is to eventually disarm the people and rule over them.

I have two words for Senator Feinstein and any politician or federal government official who wants our guns, "Molon labe!"

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  • huntingfreedominAmerica

    Diane, you are a very sad person and as for her gun control roll I hope and pray that she is voted out of office and soon. Does recall sound good or impeachment ? Why did you take a oath to protect the Constitution and then try to destory it. A oath means nothing to people like her and Obama. It's Agenda not oath you should be pledging too.

    • Retired MSGT USAF

      Censure by the Senate would work much faster as she has violated her Oath.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dean.braun.35 Dean Braun

    Feinstein, you b*t*h, get out of my life!

  • eagle

    It would better fit her lawful job description to address the weapons given to foriegn rebels used to over through their own gov then used against Americans, like in Mexico and Benghazi.

  • HappyG

    After all the payhecks she' received fo being a Senator and she still doesn't understand how our government is supposed to work...

    • rosech

      She does, but doesn't care as long as she has the position, power and money from it. I have lived in CA for 4 decades and have seen her and others of her ilk ruin the once great Golden State and turn it into a bankrupt nada along with Gov. Brown the moonbeam jerk. Don't see how we can resuscitate CA until we get the right government in power, as it was under Reagan. They can't stand it when someone profits, only they have that privilege and don't understand that if we all don't profit, in the long run they won't either. Talk about blind, deaf and dumb!

  • Bill Tyner

    Wouldn't it be cool if she just banned political ignorance. Liberals like her are so lame and have to display stupidity pretending it is correctness. BTW, does she clean and stay practiced with her self defense handgun?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pocono-Shooting-Range/100001567268553 Pocono Shooting Range

    Support the NRA. She tells you herself how effective the NRA is.

  • ESQ

    How long does she have left in office? Or is she one of those that are to be there for all ways?

    • rosech

      Damn, she and Boxer just got reelected so until next election, unless the hags drop dead or whatever, we are stuck because not enough in CA to impeach or recall them.

    • tim

      Or her plane crashes.

    • Retired MSGT USAF

      Now, there is a thought:), Just wish the good Lord would have her fly into a storm and crash.

  • TheTexasCooke

    I'm not sure how many people really care what she thinks or wants....I KNOW that I don't. Also, I hope everybody really realizes that this is just a distraction from Benghazi and "Fast and Furious". Everything else is arm-waving....those two will put folks in jail and a President on the "List of Impeached United States Presidents"...don't be distracted....

  • disqus_PMhzsM8GIS

    she is the bigest dummy candy should go play with he dolls she dont care about the 1 A MEND

  • 1straightshooter

    There once was a lib named Dianne
    Who proposed an "assault rifle" ban
    But when she was done
    She had banned every gun
    Except for the one in her hand

    -- Lewis H. Seaton III

    • Raymond

      The economy is so bad that I got a pre-declined credit card in the mail.

      I ordered a burger at McDonald's, and the kid behind the counter asked, "Can you afford fries with that?"

      CEO's are now playing miniature golf.

      If the bank returns your check marked "Insufficient Funds," you have to call them and ask if they mean you or them.

      Hot Wheels and Matchbox stocks are trading higher than GM.

      McDonald's is selling the 1/4 'ouncer'.

      Parents in Beverly Hills and Malibu are firing their nannies and learning their children's names.

      A truckload of Americans was caught sneaking into Mexico .

      Hillary took her stockbroker hunting.

      Motel Six won't leave the light on anymore.

      The Mafia is laying off judges.

      BP Oil laid off 25 Congressmen.

      Congress says they are looking into the Bernard Madoff scandal. Oh Great!! The guy who made $50 Billion disappear is being investigated by the people who made $1.5 Trillion disappear!

      And, finally...

      I was so depressed last night thinking about the economy, wars, jobs, my savings, Social Security, retirement funds, and our bleak future, that I called the Suicide Lifeline and was connected to a call center in Pakistan. When I told them I was suicidal, they got all excited, and asked if I could drive a truck..

    • OldNYFirefighter

      That one should be a Smith & Wesson 180D. It should be the weapon of choice for Liberals/Progressives. Load it with +P ammo to make sure it stops the enemy. Google S & W 180D to see what I mean. The moderators here don't seem to like links, so google it yourself.

    • RangerInParadise

      LOL. We used to call those Polish dueling pistols. I'd happily send one to my Rep. but he's a hardcore Lib and would still miss even with the 180D.

    • refurb001

      What about her body guards? Did they have sling shots? Hopefully they have blinders if they have to look at her....

  • http://www.facebook.com/robert.parton Robert Parton

    How about the security detail she enjoys turn in their guns first? how would she feel about that?

    • HappyG

      You know that will never happen...she one of the "chosen" ones...

    • refurb001

      I rather doubt that God values her more than anyone else.....!!! BUT, I'm sure she thinks so!

    • medic2003

      God has nothing to do with it. The group shes part of is more in line with Lucifer.

    • rosech

      Well, then it is up to us to "unchosen" them, isn't it? She is old enough to go to pasture (read grave), so why not? Her brain doesn't function so she is practically moribund as we write, so let's push her all the way.

    • Sandra Lee Smith

      Starting with her OWN gun!

    • Bdog

      Excellent regurgitation of an idiotic right-wing talking point!

    • medic2003

      That you countered with an idiotic left wing statement.

    • Ballistic45

      She already has answered you.. She EXEMPTED herself and fellow Politicians from the Bill she has introduced to further limit your rights.. She can own a Semi Automatic "Assault Rifle" with a 100 round Drum Magazine, so can all her Politician friends under this proposed Law... It is another "Do as I tell you, not what I can do.."

    • nofreebies4u

      Imagine that, a liberal that says do as I say, not as I do. How typical of her. I want her to surrender her guns today and also the guns of her bodyguards as well. We the People of the the republic of the United States of America demand this action and she needs to resign if she is unwilling to do this. She is not any more important than the least of us or our families and is not entitiled to have special rights that will allow her to be safe if the rest of us are not. Do not ignore the citizens of this country.

    • medic2003

      Still not giving mine up even if she DID do that.

    • leithel1

      Give her a hundred dollar visa card when she turns them in.

    • draeh2020

      I wouldn't give that thief a penny.

    • Retired MSGT USAF

      She should pay to turn them in.

  • ExpertWitness

    Feinstein should be charged with treason and punished accordingly.

    In this debate about the current relevance of the 2nd amendment, let us not forget that the largest massacres and mass murders have not been committed by individuals, crazy or otherwise, opening fire on other people, but by governments. The fact is, in just the past century over 170 million people have been exterminated by their governments, AFTER the governments enacted strict gun control to disarm their populations.

    As Franklin Sanders notes: "Get this straight right now: owning guns isn't about hunting, target practice, sport shooting, or skeet. Owning guns is about having something to use against the government when they come to put your family up against the wall and shoot them. Ask the Russians, Germans, Chinese, and anybody else in the world. The only thing preventing total
    tyranny right now in the USA is that there are 300 million guns out there, & government doesn't know where they are."

    The truth is: Guns don't kill people, governments do.

    Watch the video Innocents Betrayed: http://libertycrier.com/front-page/innocents-betrayed-genocide-by-gun-control-true-history-of-gun-confiscation/

    By advocating gun control Feinstein is putting blood on her head.

    • Bdog

      One definition of treason is: knowingly exposing the covert activities of of deep-cover intelligence assets. During a time of war, this is a crime punishable by the death penalty. OH.... THAT'S RIGHT. Cheney/Bush/Rove "outed" a deep-cover CIA asset, exposing scored of "Patriots" to certain danger and possibly death... ruining years of covert intelligence work pertaining to weapons of mass destruction... and blowing hundreds of millions of tax-payer dollars in the process.... Please don't pretend to quote "facts" when you don't have a rats-ass clue of what you're talking about!!!

    • rosech

      Excuse me, but it was Clinton did what you are claiming others did. Get updated on your information. This all happened before Bush and friends came into office. With a Demo Congress, Bush didn't have much opportunity to change things and the Demos wanted and approved the attack in Iraq and then, as always, said they didn't. It is in the Congressional records, thank God, about their treasonable lying!

    • ExpertWitness

      Maybe C/B/R should be tried for treason. There is plenty of treasonous activities occurring in WashDC right now. Probably enough to hang the whole lot.

      And as for you... You are the one that does not have a "rats-ass clue of what we're talking about" if you think dissing C/B/R has anything to do with what we are talking about. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Anyone subverting the constitution and turning the govt aginst the citizens of the country should be held accountable from either side of the aisle. So you should just stick YOUR "facts" in the appropriate orifice and shut up.

    • nofreebies4u

      Typical left wing nut drone regurgitation of talking points. Bush - Bush - Bush - Bush - Bush - Bush - Bush - Bush - Bush. The idiots can't seem to figure out that hi is no longer in office for over 4 years. Duuuuuuuh!

    • Retired MSGT USAF

      Please stay on message, you are off of the subject.

      But here is one for you:

      A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves... and include all men capable of bearing arms. . . To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms.

      Richard Henry Lee
      His famous resolution of June 1776 led to the United States Declaration of Independence, which Lee signed. He also served a one-year term as the President of the Continental Congress

    • rosech

      Exactly. Regimes that the leaders want the power and money and lifestyle have no qualms to get rid of their poor and little people. We cannot and will not allow that to transpire here~

  • jkl

    The way the Government been doing Helicopters Training in Miami with Machine Gun Fire last week... Plus the martial law drills in LA, Boston and Chicago over 1 year+ now. ... Something is cooking with them coming after guns...

    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/01/25/lapd-and-special-forces-conduct-military-maneuvers-in-the-skies-above-downtown-la/

    http://endtimeheadlines.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/just-a-drill-helicopters-train-in-miami-with-machine-gun-fire/

    • Ron

      Oh yes, Obama is going to try to take over.

    • refurb001

      AND the fools that put him in office will be loosing their firearms as well. Bet they never thought about that. Then he will take over and there will not be another election again.... Wait and see!!!

    • OldNYFirefighter

      Oh goody! That means they will be coming after the city critters first. Since the cities are the Liberals & Progressives utopia, they will get exactly what they deserve. That will give the rest of us time to prepare,whatever that means ???

  • jvb1980808

    Indoctrinating the same age children into the gay lifestyle is okay but taking them and teaching them gun safety and respect is obscene to her. She is a menace.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pocono-Shooting-Range/100001567268553 Pocono Shooting Range

    The purpose of the Second Amendment is to arm people in order to prevent future tyranny. They need the tools to do this.

    The term "Well Regulated" in the Second Amendment meant "Well Manned and Equipped " in 1791 as was determined in the 1939 United States v. Miller case after referencing the autobiography of Benjamin Franklin. The concept of Government Regulation, as we understand it today, did not exist at the time.

    United States v. Miller also determined that the term "Arms" refers to "Ordinary Military Weapons" (not crew operated). American Citizens have the right to Keep and Bear, which means Own and Carry, any weapons that a soldier carries into battle. That includes past, present and future weapons. A Militia consisted of armed volunteers willing to fight with their personal arms and not under government control.

    The 2008 Heller v. Washington DC decision reaffirmed that the Right to Bear Arms was an Individual right. The 2010 McDonald v. Chicago decision reaffirmed it yet again and made it clear that it applies to every state, every city and every town in the United States.

    To limit the Second Amendment to muskets would be the equivalent of limiting the First Amendment to writings in quill pens.

    Liberty is worth the risk of death!

    • Sandra Lee Smith

      The concept did; that was the reason for the 2nd Amendment; it was the practice here that didn't exist because the population WAS equally well armed!

  • monkeypox69

    Feinstein and Crowley - two fat, ugly, disgusting, Anti-American Libtard pieces of trash.

    • catman

      f feinstein!

    • CaptTurbo

      Some might think that you stutter but I know better! LOL

    • Bdog

      Devoid of facts, relevance, knowledge or even a moderate level of intellect... monkeypox69 resorts to 'name-calling'. Brilliant!

    • tim

      You forgot to include Bdog below.

  • disqus_Fpp16uszZ1

    This is scary... These symptoms are exactly the description of Obama and nearly all in his administration. What's even worse is, they recommend if you come in contact with someone with these personality traits, that you call your local police dept because they are extremely dangerous ! I will not give up my weapons to sociopaths! It did not work well for Germany.

    THE MALIGNANT PERSONALITY:

    These people are mentally ill and extremely dangerous! The following precautions will help to protect you from the destructive acts of which they are capable.

    First, to recognize them, keep the following guidelines in mind.

    (1) They are habitual liars. They seem incapable of either knowing or telling the truth about anything.

    (2) They are egotistical to the point of narcissism. They really believe they are set apart from the rest of humanity by some special grace.

    (3) They scapegoat; they are incapable of either having the insight or willingness to accept responsibility for anything they do. Whatever the problem, it is always someone else's fault.

    (4) They are remorselessly vindictive when thwarted or exposed.

    (5) Genuine religious, moral, or other values play no part in their lives. They have no empathy for others and are capable of violence. Under older psychological terminology, they fall into the category of psychopath or sociopath, but unlike the typical psychopath, their behavior is masked by a superficial social facade.

    If you have come into conflict with such a person or persons, do the following immediately!

    (1) Notify your friends and relatives of what has happened.

    Do not be vague. Name names, and specify dates and circumstances. Identify witnesses if possible and provide supporting documentation if any is available.

    (2) Inform the police. The police will do nothing with this information except to keep it on file, since they are powerless to act until a crime has been committed. Unfortunately, that often is usually too late for the victim. Nevertheless, place the information in their hands.

    Obviously, if you are assaulted or threatened before witnesses, you can get a restraining order, but those are palliative at best.

    (3) Local law enforcement agencies are usually under pressure if wealthy or politically powerful individuals are involved, so include state and federal agencies as well and tell the locals that you have. In my own experience, one agency that can help in a pinch is the Criminal Investigation Division of the Internal Revenue Service or (in Canada) Victims Services at your local police unit. It is not easy to think of the IRS as a potential friend, but a Swedish study showed that malignant types (the Swedes called them bullies) usually commit some felony or other by the age of twenty. If the family is wealthy, the fact may never come to light, but many felonies involve tax evasion, and in such cases, the IRS is interested indeed. If large amounts of money are involved, the IRS may solve all your problems for you. For obvious reasons the Drug Enforcement Agency may also be an appropriate agency to approach. The FBI is an important agency to contact, because although the FBI does not have jurisdiction over murder or assault, if informed, they do have an active interest in any other law enforcement agencies that do not follow through with an honest investigation and prosecution should a murder occur. Civil rights are involved at that point. No local crooked lawyer, judge, or corrupt police official wants to be within a country mile if that comes to light! It is in such cases that wealthy psychopaths discover just how firm the "friends" they count on to cover up for them really are! Even some of the drug cartel biggies will scuttle for cover if someone picks up the brick their thugs hide under. Exposure is bad for business.

    (4) Make sure that several of your friends have the information in the event something happens to you. That way, an appropriate investigation will follow if you are harmed. Don't tell other people who has the information, because then something bad could happen to them as well. Instruct friends to take such an incident to the newspapers and other media.

    If you are dealing with someone who has considerable money, you must realize that they probably won't try to harm you themselves, they will contract with someone to make the hit. The malignant type is a coward and will not expose himself or herself to personal danger if he or she can avoid it.

    Based on this advise, what if that relationship consist between the people and the government? What does a country do if it is being controlled by a small group of 535 sociopaths (Congress) which has total control over the freedoms the people have been granted at the birth of the greatest country and born out of the need to escape the very tyranny that is destroying it? Who does one call if the police and even the military become a part of it?

    • rosech

      Just locate those who think like you.l WE ARE THE MILITIA and need to stop this overtaking government and the idiots we voted into office. Our real bad~

    • Kukye

      You just described a liberal. Their ways are meant to bring death to people. But what is nefarious about them is they never tell you what proceeds it -HUMAN MISERY AND SUFFERING!

      BTW: The first liberals were Adam & Eve. Now do you undestand what Adam & Eve did to understand who and what Barry Saetoro is, along with Feinstein, Pelosi, Hairy Weed, Cuomo, Schumer, Bloomberg, Kerry, and Both Clntons are.

  • Montford greenwood

    It was a sad day in history when people gave up their machine guns in the 30's.
    It will be the death of the U.S if we give up our semi auto weapons.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pocono-Shooting-Range/100001567268553 Pocono Shooting Range

      It is exactly because this was not stopped in the 30's that we are in the predicament we are in now. Gun Control can never be satisfied, because it does not work. Any gun control other then outright ban will never be enough for these beasts.

    • Raymond

      Plastic Surgery Miracles

      Three Texas plastic surgeons were playing golf together and discussing surgeries they had performed.

      One of them said, "I'm the best plastic surgeon in Texas. A concert pianist lost 7 fingers in an accident,
      I reattached them, and 8 months later he performed a private concert for the Queen of England."

      One of the others said. "That's nothing. A young man lost both arms and legs in an accident, I reattached them,
      and 2 years later he won a gold medal in 5 field events in the Olympics."

      The third surgeon said, "You guys are amateurs. Several years ago a muslim who was high on cocaine and
      alcohol rode a horse head-on into a train traveling 80 miles an hour. All I had left to work with was the horse's
      behind and a diaper. . Now he's president of the United States."

    • rosech

      And no way will we let them ban our protection. Let them give up theirs but no way, Jose, for our guns.

    • http://www.facebook.com/robert.jones.522 Robert Jones

      Calling it gun control is in error. The correct term is people control, because when they can get all the guns then they have complete control. Then they can start a systematic slaughter of the people. AKA Germany. Get it.

    • leithel1

      Calling it gun control is an error. Don't give up your gun. Your finger isn't loaded and it won't give you any protection unless you stick it in obamas eyes.

    • Ballistic45

      And in the 1930's the reasoning was the same, give them up to get them out of the hands of gangs involved with bootlegging and gang wars... Didn't work then, gangs still to this day use Machine guns, they didn't give them up, only the Law Abiding Citizens lost rights.... Now it is repackaged and being resold and still will not work, but their are dumb a$$es who will again believe it is the answer....

  • retiredmillwright

    Diane Feinstein who has became very, very rich in office has lined her pockets with millions of the tax payers money under very questionable shady deals and now wants to protect her self and fellow tyrants from a armed revolt by taking the little peoples semi autos. I will bet her armed guards have some full auto select fire weapons within easy access, the real assault weapons, not semi autos that the news media mistakenly call assault weapons. I need my semi auto for home protection, call time is forty five minutes to three hours for police where I live where and armed criminals do home invasions. I need my semi auto to hunt hogs and put food on the table. I need my semi auto if as feared by my forefathers when they wrote the second amendment, tyrants take control of our government, and many have been spoted in Washington lately try to take over our government.

    • James Maxwell

      The police only come after the crime is commited to investigat it and make sure the
      chalk marks are of for the press when the get there to cover the crime.

    • Raymond

      California is the "Granola Bar State" because it's chock full of fruits, flakes, & nuts.

    • rosech

      Not all of us, but sure enough SF and LA are full of their idiots and enough liberals and Demos to run the state further into ruin.

    • http://www.facebook.com/robert.blaufuss Robert Blaufuss

      Another Californian not buying into this crazy liberal garbage!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/pizzed.off Pizzed Off

      So, why haven't they pushed for the replacement of the Electoral college and switch to a Representative basis. Then those dingbat CA Senators would lose a lot of their support since all of the Conservative areas would go to the Conservative/Republican candidates.
      Other states with highly concentrated cities full of Democrat dimwits are doing it to deprive them of swinging their illegal votes and those of the welfare kind as well.

    • http://www.facebook.com/anthony.soro.3 Anthony Soro

      well how did she get in office? and the other screw Ball Nancy P-brain

    • http://antonia-t-emilio.myopenid.com/ Antonia T. Emilio

      I am stocking up and making plans. The war has already begun. ... http://www.Hugedealprofit73dollarperhourontheinternet.qr.net/j7ik/am8en14=zfAdmAtYIY

    • John Spencer

      Me too.

    • halfbreed

      If assault weapons is left out the package and I’m a member of the
      Judiciary, number two in seniority, I’ve been assured by the majority
      leader I’ll be able to do it as an amendment on the floor, which is the
      way I did it in 1993,” she said.

      Read more: http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/01/duh-feinstein-says-she-wants-to-go-after-more-than-just-assault-weapons/#ixzz2JHeS9xB1

    • http://www.facebook.com/charles.glover.14 Charles Glover

      California is one state I would like to see secede and Freninstein along with it.

    • Tripmom92

      give it back to Mexico, it's full of their citizens anyway

    • hjjusa

      There are a lot of people in CA. that are gun savvy, it's just the libritads making a fuss. Come on you gunners out there in CA speak up.

    • http://www.facebook.com/anthony.soro.3 Anthony Soro

      there afraid

    • http://www.facebook.com/chuck.peterson.524 Chuck Peterson

      AMEN and take New Mexico with them

    • http://www.facebook.com/vojkan.spasic.9 Vojkan Spasic

      You would be surprised to know that Fresno valley is conservative, and voted for Romney.

    • Retired MSGT USAF

      I understand, I grew up in the old Napa Valley and it was at one time very conservative. Now it is a playtoy for the elites. They ruined property values there by making a standard 1800 square foot house worth $500,000 and forced low and middle income out so they could play in their vineyards. Nancy Polosi was one I know of along with all the movie elites. They bought it up after Prop 13 and stole it for next to nothing.
      Needless to say, I can no longer afford to live there.

    • PMM

      I feel so bad for the inclaves of conservatives out there. It must be awful to work to get someone sane elected and always get the same group of far left liberals no matter what you do!

    • newattitude1

      Good people, sad not enough of CA has that many brains.!!

    • ltbl123

      Pleeze give California the respect she is due. It's the P.R.C. The Peoples Republik of California.

    • Nathan51

      I hear that God took a map of the United States, turned it up on end, shook it and everything that was loose fell out in California!

    • madashell82

      Well said!

    • Whiplash

      Yes, but primarily to try to find evedense of provocation from the victim to do harm to the criminal..just after it killed or worse the victim and or family... there seems to be kind of an out of phase connection here... The law seems to be more intent on protecting the perpatraitor than the victim.

    • Raymond

      The United States of America passed away on November 6, 2012
      with an almost silent whimper. She was 236 years old. The grand
      old lady died of neglect, stupidity, arrogance and pure abuse at the
      hands of both her leaders and its ignorant populace. She will be
      survived by the Socialist Democratic Republic of Obamerica or SDRO.

      Also killed in this same massive, catastrophic, progressive wreck
      were personal freedoms, American values, exceptionalism, The
      Constitution, economic growth, conservatism, fiscal sanity, American
      unity, free markets, life's sanctity, marriage between man and woman, Republicanism, free will, self-reliance and many more are so mutilated as to be unrecognizable any longer.

      Born: July 04, 1776
      Died: November 06, 2012

    • Paul Metcalf

      You have hit the nail on the head, now we need to revive her and bring her back to her former glory. We can do that with Patriots like you.

    • rosech

      I don't think our country died, but definitely need triage and resuscitation and that is what we must do any way we can.

    • Gary Kimes

      Ray, Your light is dimming, PLEASE Do not give up .. the thing we need to do is to resharpen our own consciences so the people we try to reach can easily see the deceit of those who do not even own one. Be the light. Don't accidentally work for those who would put it out. As long as we have breath we have life and can make a difference.

    • Txfredn

      Give up Hell? WE have only begun to fight! I think Washington has made the BIG mistake of counting the US citizens out even before the final bell has rung! It's obvious to me that multitudes are seeing through their smoke and mirrors! Now we need to get our game plan going and reconstruct OUR America before they can get their plans completed! So let's keep up the good fight and not bow down to their tyranny! Many of us have fought for her before and are more than willing to do it again!

    • http://www.facebook.com/arley.earnest Arley Rick Earnest

      RETREAT HELL!!!!

    • Puddles

      Sad but true

    • isthisnameokay

      These once sovereign States died long before that ... When Commie Clinton took over the states... is one way she died - but - it's been happening for a good hundred years... This 11/6 date is just the almost final nail in her coffin.

    • http://twitter.com/wine4u wine4u

      there is only one fix and sadly it will be sad

    • http://www.facebook.com/charles.glover.14 Charles Glover

      I personally will survive this catastrophe but the ones who brought it about will be devoured by their own devisiveness. I will live to see their sorry asses fall into the crapm hole they have dug for themselves..

    • http://www.facebook.com/don.holland.9400 Don Holland

      You're right Charles, people like Feinstein think they are untouchable but we all know that nobody is. My momma didn't raise any children foolish enough to make stupid statements on television that would enflame so many people. With all the nuts in California I think she has placed herself in a bad spot but she is too stupid to know it apparently.

    • TexasOlTimer

      When the liberals like Feinstein say such stupid things, they have the media feeding into their delusion of being right and it only bolsters their egos and makes them think they are infallible. Those of us that see through that cannot understand how they can be so illogical or hypocritical but it's simply a means to an end and anything goes.

      She can conceal carry while saying that ALL Americans should turn in their guns. Obama lies every time he opens his mouth and the media laps it up without asking a question. When they fall, as they will, it's going to be a very rude awakening! I just hope I'm still around to see it as well as part of what brings them down!

    • Phillip_in_TX

      It is the "Ant & the Grasshopper" story. The "ants" will survive and the "grasshoppers" will perish.

      ANT - an acronym - "Americans Nullifying Tyranny."

      Grasshopper - "it's not my fault Obama's" useful idiots. They are the ones standing around, waiting on someone else to do what they should be doing for themselves.

      Welcome fellow ANT!

    • noelle2013

      True american has died and i think it actaully died on the day that the fed & irs bills where signed into law by that evil bas#$ard wilson who i hate along with fdr and of the income tax because it made every single american slave to the fed and the dollar and it also died do to the dumbasses that keep voting for these same old dammn "parties" over and over!
      HELL NO TO GIVE THE REPUBS ANY MORE CHANCES TO BE IN POWER! F$%^K THE REPUB PARTY AS IT IS VERY CORRUPT AND IS NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PEOPLE ANYMORE!

    • Phillip_in_TX

      Both parties are infested with "Progressives & Liberals." It appears they have "stopped being Americans" who care about their country. Now, they care about "what is in it for them" and screw everyone else.

    • Raymond

      I hope this helps you to understand
      what's going on.

      There is only one way to heaven and
      here is how to get there.

      http://www.chick.com/the_story_of_jesus/

    • patches64

      I really hope you aren't giving up. WE took this country out of the hands of bad government in the 1700's and I think we can do it again. I'm going on 65 but my index fingers still work.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roger-Long/1450125296 Roger Long

      Mine too, almost 70.

    • http://www.facebook.com/roxene.kimes Roxene Kimes

      The really scary thing is that we have ourselves through ignorance funded our government to put in place a system that keeps track of our every move. Things like the dept. of Homeland Security is not about securing us. It is a very tyrannical group designed to keep track of those who the government fear most. People with a conscience. People of the constitution; of the constitutional republic. People gifted the freedom of conscience. Not those that think freedom is the freedom from owning one. They are welcomed into the tyranny and will soon be policing us as terrorists. Don't believe it? See this:
      http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/20/Unprecedented-Obama-Campaign-To-Turn-Itself-Into-A-Non-Profit

      BTW did you know that every piece of email you write is stored and surveilled at will? The same is true of you phone calls.. you think this is not possible? Think about the fact that 240GB of info can be stored in a space smaller than your pinkie fingernail and is ridiculously inexpensive..

    • Phillip_in_TX

      Well, if they have the stuff stored up on me, they sure as hell know where I "stand," and what I believe about the things going on. : )

    • PMM

      And a whole pile of other people too!

    • Phillip_in_TX

      I'm trying to "crash their servers!" ; )

    • TexasOlTimer

      To give my great-granddaughters a free country to grow up, I'll stand with my ancestors and fight. They don't have to read my email to find that out - I'll tell 'em!

    • Phillip_in_TX

      Amen to that!

    • johnsnare

      Fortunately, there are mnay more of us, then them. Freedom will always rule. Locked and loaded, and if you enter my home uninvited,say hello to Jesus.

    • http://www.facebook.com/joan.neighbors.3 Joan Neighbors

      To obtain more information on our government's projects of total control, check the internet site on the terrifying data of their "Stellar Wind" project.

    • Raymond

      I'm not giving up.
      However, it's important to look at the facts.
      This is the year 2013, 17 hundreds.
      The government has tanks, attack helicopters,
      jet fighters, misslies. The government also has
      satellites to track your every move.

      The government can cut off your pension or
      SSN. And the list goes on.

    • teddie77

      And all done without a gun, Raymond

    • http://www.facebook.com/don.holland.9400 Don Holland

      Raymond, you know that what you said is not true and will never be true as long as YOU and I and millions of others breathe and have the strength to pull the trigger and reload. I have already commited, I am stocking up and making plans. The war has already begun.

    • Raymond

      Let's take a closer look at some brave patriots
      who took a stand against voter fraud & government
      abuse.

      http://voxvocispublicus.homestead.com/Battle-of-Athens.html

    • Bdog

      Frightened little, ignorant coward. The Constitution called for a "well-regulated" militia... and NO standing army. Under your GOP heroes... we have more than quadrupled the standing army for our global "corporate" expansionism. Knowledge is power... and you are sadly, very, very weak. By the way, when the law was written, it entitled you to a musket... not a weapon designed to murder crowds of people in seconds. Yes... I MEAN... ignorant, frightened little coward.

    • medic2003

      You sir are so far into the koolaid it is sickening. It was wriiten to allow us to get the best guns we could afford, at the time it was muskets. We have come a long way since then. Whos the coward here? the people who are trying to save this nation and have it as the Constitution was written or is it you hiding behind your authoritarian government? Your government doesnt use muskets, and the 2nd was written so that the government would fear the people if they stepped out of line. You sir are the coward. Standing behind an unconstitutional bunch of tyrants and whining that someone has a bigger gun than you.

      "I hope, therefore, a bill of rights will be formed to guard the people against the Federal government as they are already guarded against their State governments, in most instances."
      Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1788

      "I learn with great concern that [one] portion of our frontier so interesting, so important, and so exposed, should be so entirely unprovided with common fire-arms. I did not suppose any part of the United States so destitute of what is considered as among the first necessaries of a farm house."
      Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Jacob J. Brown (1808)

      "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
      Thomas Jefferson

      "Honor, justice, and humanity, forbid us tamely to surrender that freedom which we received from our gallant ancestors, and which our innocent posterity have a right to receive from us. We cannot endure the infamy and guilt of resigning succeeding generations to that wretchedness which inevitably awaits them if we basely entail hereditary bondage on them."
      Thomas Jefferson (Declaration of the Causes and Necessities of Taking up Arms, 6 July 1775)

      "I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
      Thomas Jefferson

      "Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state."
      Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President

      "The constitutions of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property and freedom of the press."
      Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
      Source a letter from Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright in 1824

      "One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them."
      Thomas Jefferson Letter to George Washington, 1796

      "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
      Thomas Jefferson, Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1776

      "For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well organized and armed militia is their best security."
      Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President. Source: Eighth Annual Message, November 8, 1808

      "None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army. To keep ours armed and disciplined is therefore at all times important."
      Thomas Jefferson 1803

      "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
      Thomas Jefferson (attributed without source)

      "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks."
      Thomas Jefferson's advice to his 15 year-old nephew Peter Carr 1785

      "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.... The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
      Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Stephens Smith, November 13, 1787; “The Works of Thomas Jefferson,” Federal Edition (New York and London, G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904-5) Vol. 5

      "Let us contemplate our forefathers and posterity and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' It is a very serious consideration that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event."
      Samuel Adams speech, 1771

      "Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."
      Samuel Adams

      "[T]he people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government and to reform, alter, or totally change the same when their protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness require it."
      Samuel Adams

      "...It is always dangerous to the liberties of the people to have an army stationed among them, over which they have no control...The Militia is composed of free Citizens. There is therefore no danger of their making use of their power to the destruction of their own Rights, or suffering others to invade them."
      Samuel Adams

      "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
      Samuel Adams, speech at the Philadelphia State House, August 1, 1776.

      "The said Constitution [shall] be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms."
      Samuel Adams of Massachusetts -- U.S. Constitution ratification convention, 1788

      "Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation... Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
      James Madison, Federalist Papers, #46 at 243-244.

      "The highest number to which, according to the best computation, a standing army can be carried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth part of the whole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men. To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence. It may well be doubted, whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops."
      James Madison, The Federalist Number 46 January 29, 1788

      "Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of."
      James Madison, The Federalist No. 48, February 1, 1788

      "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed, and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service in person."
      James Madison, Proposed Amendments to the Constitution June 8, 1789

      "Suppose that we let a regular army, fully equal to the resources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal: still it would not be going to far to say that the State governments with the people at their side would be able to repel the danger...half a million citizens with arms in their hands"
      James Madison, The Federalist Papers

      "A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
      James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President

      "A people armed and free forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition and is a bulwark for the nation against foreign invasion and domestic oppression."
      James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President

      "A government resting on the minority is an aristocracy, not a republic, and could not be safe with a numerical and physical force against it, without a standing army, an enslaved press and a disarmed populace."
      James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
      Source: The Federalist No. 46.

      "[Tyranny cannot be safe] without a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace."
      James Madison, In his autobiography

      "The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."
      James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President

      "To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defense, or by partial orders of towns, counties, or districts of a state, is to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that
      liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of the government. The fundamental law of the militia is, that it be created, directed, and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws."
      John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President A Defense of the Constitution of Government of the United States of America, 1788

      "You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments: rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the universe."
      John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President

      "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclination, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
      John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President

      "Our obligations to our country never cease but with our lives."
      John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President

      "Resistance to sudden violence, for the preservation not only of my person, my limbs and life, but of my property, is an indisputable right of nature which I have never surrendered to the public by the compact of society, and which perhaps, I could not surrender if I would. Nor is there anything in the common law of England ... inconsistent with that right."
      John Adams(1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President
      Source: BOSTON GAZETTE, September 5, 1763, The Works of John Adams, p.438 (Charles F. Adams ed., 1851).

      "There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty."
      John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President

      "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government."
      Alexander Hamilton Federalist #28

      "Let us recollect that peace or war will not always be left to our option; that however moderate or unambitious we may be, we cannot count upon the moderation, or hope to extinguish the ambition of others. ...The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
      Alexander Hamilton (1757-1804) Source: the Federalist Papers at 184-8

      "...but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in discipline and use of arms, who stand ready to defend their rights..."
      Alexander Hamilton Federalist 29

      "The project of disciplining all the militia of the United States is as futile as it would be injurious if it were capable of being carried into execution. A tolerable expertness in military movements is a business that requires time and practice. It is not a day, nor a week nor even a month, that will suffice for the attainment of it. To oblige the great body of the yeomanry and of the other classes of the citizens to be under arms for the purpose of going through military exercises and evolutions, as often as might be necessary to acquire the degree of perfection which would entitle them to the character of a well regulated militia, would be a real grievance to the people and a serious public inconvenience and loss."
      Alexander Hamilton Federalist #29Webmaster's Note: This quote by Hamilton sheds some much needed light on the term 'Well-Regulated' mentioned in the 2nd Amendment. It does not mean what it does today, such as regulation through restrictive legislative activity. It meant at the time that something would be working as it should, properly calibrated and in good order.

      "... of the liberty of conscience in matters of religious faith, of speech and of the press; of the trial by jury of the vicinage in civil and criminal cases; of the benefit of the writ of habeas corpus; of the right to keep and bear arms.... If these rights are well defined, and secured against encroachment, it is impossible that government should ever degenerate into tyranny."
      James Monroe (1758-1831), 5th US President

      "The right of self-defense never ceases. It is among the most sacred, and alike necessary to nations and to individuals."
      President James Monroe (November 16, 1818)

      Portrait, George Washington

      "A free people ought not only to be armed but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well digested plan is requisite: And their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories, as tend to render them independent on others, for essential, particularly for military supplies."
      President George Washington First Annual Message to Congress January 8, 1790

      "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace."
      George Washington

      "To each of my Nephews, William Augustine Washington, George Lewis, George Steptoe Washington, Bushrod Washington, and Samuel Washington, I give one of my swords or Cutteaux of which I may be Possessed; and they are to choose in the order they are named. These Swords are accompanied with an injunction not to unsheathe them for the purpose of shedding blood, except it be for self defense, or in the defense of their Country and its rights; and in the latter case, to keep them unsheathed, and prefer falling with them in their hands, to the relinquishment thereof."
      George Washington from his Last Will and Testament

      "The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men."
      George Washington

      "Altho' a large standing Army in time of Peace hath ever been considered dangerous to the liberties of a Country, yet a few Troops, under certain circumstances, are not only safe, but indispensably necessary. Fortunately for us our relative situation requires but few. The same circumstances which so effectually retarded, and in the end conspired to defeat the attempts of Britain to subdue us, will now powerfully tend to render us secure. Our distance from the European States in a great degree frees us of apprehension, from their numerous regular forces and the Insults and dangers which are to be dreaded from their Ambition."
      George Washington May 1, 1783

      "...As there is not the least doubt at present, that the principle Object of the Enemy is to get Possession of the City of Philadelphia, it is absolutely necessary, that every Person able to bear Arms (except such as are Conscientiously scrupulous against it in every Case), should give their personal Service, and whenever a part of the Militia is required only, either to join the Army or find a Man in their place. In order to effect this, I beg you will order the whole Militia of your State to be enrolled and compleatly equipp'd; that one half at least may proceed to join the Army with all possible expedition..."
      George Washington--to Pennsylvania Safety Council, January 19, 1777

      George Mason (1725-1792) Statesman, Founding Father, Patriot and known as the "Father of the Bill of Rights"

      "And we do each of us, for ourselves respectively, promise and engage to keep a good firelock in proper order, and to furnish ourselves as soon as possible with, and always keep by us, one pound of gunpowder, four pounds of lead, one dozen gunflints, and a pair of bullet moulds, with a cartouch box, or powder horn, and bag for balls."
      George Mason's Fairfax County Militia Plan, 1775

      "That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that, in all cases, the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power."
      Virginia Declaration of Rights 13 (June 12, 1776), drafted by George Mason

      "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole body of the people except for a few public officials. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them..."
      George Mason (1725-1792), drafted the Virginia Declaration of Rights, ally of James Madison and George Washington

      "That all men are by nature equally free and independent, and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot by any compact deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety."
      George Mason (1725-1792), Virginia Declaration of Rights, 1776

      "That the people have a Right to mass and to bear arms; that a well regulated militia composed of the Body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper natural and safe defense of a free State..."
      George Mason (1725-1792), drafted the Virginia Declaration of Rights, ally of James Madison and George Washington
      Source: Within Mason's declaration of "the essential and unalienable Rights of the People," -- drafted by Thomas Jefferson, George Mason and others, and later adopted by the Virginia ratification convention, 1788

      "Government is, or ought to be, instituted for the common benefit and security of the people, nation or community; whenever any government shall be found inadequate or contrary to these purposes, a majority of the community hath an indubitable, unalienable, indefeasible right, to reform, alter, or abolish it, in such manner as shall be judged most conducive to the public Weal."
      George Mason (1725-1792), drafted the Virginia Declaration of Rights, ally of James Madison and George Washington

      "[W]hen the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, [Sir William Keith] who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually, by totally disusing and neglecting the militia."
      George Mason (1725-1792), drafted the Virginia Declaration of Rights, ally of James Madison and George Washington
      Source: from debates during the Virginia state ratifying convention (June 14, 1788), quoted in Elliot’s Debates

      "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
      Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

      "... as all history informs us, there has been in every State & Kingdom a constant kind of warfare between the governing & governed: the one striving to obtain more for its support, and the other to pay less. And this has alone occasioned great convulsions, actual civil wars, ending either in dethroning of the Princes, or enslaving of the people. Generally indeed the ruling power carries its point, the revenues of princes constantly increasing, and we see that they are never satisfied, but always in want of more. The more the people are discontented with the oppression of taxes; the greater need the prince has of money to distribute among his partisans and pay the troops that are to suppress all resistance, and enable him to plunder at pleasure. There is scarce a king in a hundred who would not, if he could, follow the example of Pharaoh, get first all the peoples money, then all their lands, and then make them and their children servants for ever ..."
      Benjamin Franklin, before the Constitutional Convention, (June 2, 1787)

      "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! - I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
      Patrick Henry (1736-1799)

      "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined."
      Patrick Henry (1736-1799), Virginia's U.S. Constitution Ratification Convention

      "Have we the means of resisting disciplined armies, when our only defense, the militia is put in the hands of Congress?"
      Patrick Henry (1736-1799), 3 Elliot Debates 48.

      "They tell us that we are weak—unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Three million people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us."
      Patrick Henry (1736-1799), 1775
      Webmaster's Note: It is interesting to note that the population in 1775, was approximately 2.9 million. In Patrick Henry's above quotation, he refers to ALL THE PEOPLE, and NOT just those meeting the qualifications of service in the Militia.

      "The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun."
      Patrick Henry

      "O sir, we should have fine times, indeed, if, to punish tyrants, it were only sufficient to assemble the people! Your arms, wherewith you could defend yourselves, are gone... Did you ever read of any revolution in a nation... inflicted by those who had no power at all?"
      Patrick Henry, Elliot p. 3:50-53, in Virginia Ratifying Convention

      "Are we at least brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in our possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"
      Patrick Henry, 3 Elliot Debates 168-169.

      Noah Webster American Patriot (1758-1843) (Author of America's first dictionary)

      "Another source of power in government is a military force. But this, to be efficient, must be superior to any force that exists among the people, or which they can command; for otherwise this force would be annihilated, on the first exercise of acts of oppression. Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive."
      Noah Webster (1758-1843) American patriot and scholar, author of the 1806 edition of the dictionary that bears his name, the first dictionary of American English usage.
      Defined the militia similarly as "the effective part of the people at large."
      Source: An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, Philadelphia, 1787

      Tench Coxe (Alexander Hamilton's Chief Assistant in the Treasury Department)

      "As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."
      Tench Coxe (1755-1824), writing as "A Pennsylvanian," in "Remarks On The First Part Of The Amendments To The Federal Constitution," in the _Philadelphia Federal Gazette,_ June 18, 1789, p.2 col.1

      "The power of the sword, say the minority of Pennsylvania, is in the hands of Congress. My friends and countrymen, it is not so, for the powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from 16 to 60. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? It is feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom? Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people."
      Tench Coxe (1755-1824), writing as "the Pennsylvanian" in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, February 20, 1788

      "Every free man has a right to the use of the press, so he has to the use of his arms."
      Tench Coxe (1755-1824)

      "The militia, who are in fact the effective part of the people at large, will render many troops quite unnecessary. They will form a powerful check upon the regular troops, and will generally be sufficient to over-awe them"
      Tench Coxe (1755-1824), An American Citizen IV, October 21, 1787

      Daniel Webster (1782-1852) (Secretary of State under three U.S. Presidents)

      "God grants Liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it."
      Daniel Webster (1782-1852) in a speech on 3 June, 1834

      "Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
      Daniel Webster (1782-1852)

      Thomas Paine (1737-1809)

      "We fight not to enslave, but to set a country free, and to make room upon the earth for honest men to live in."
      Thomas Paine

      "The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms like laws, discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside... Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them..."
      Thomas Paine (1737-1809)
      Source: I Writings of Thomas Paine at 56, 1894

      "...[A]rms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property...Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
      Thomas Paine (1737-1809), Thoughts On Defensive War, 1775

      I think its pretty clear what the founders had in mind and it had nothing to do with making sure we only had a damn musket.

      You are EXACTLY what they mean by useful idiot.

    • Sniper

      Well said sir,Thats what I call kicking an idiots ass.

    • Bdog

      I guess you would know about getting your ass kicked!

    • http://www.facebook.com/roxene.kimes Roxene Kimes

      A suggestion medic.. people like bdog do not have the attention span to read an epistle. Fact is due to political correctness truth ITSELF is repulsive to them.

      So. Use a dropper and feed them slowly at first .. with little sound bytes that are succinct but powerfully true. Don't BLAST them like that.

      I am fully awake and full weaned and even I would not take the time to read something that long.

    • medic2003

      I didnt expect him to. I pretty much have him labeled as a lost cause or a paid troll. People like him are always saying prove it. I think I did that.

      I made a point and even if he reads the first 3 it was driven home. Maybe just maybe Im wrong and he will read every last one of those and see the error of his ways.

    • Bdog

      Medick - You proved nothing, other than having way too much time on your hands. I trust you're retired and NOT living off welfare!

      This is supposed to be government by... for... on behalf of.. and with the "CONSENT" of the American people. Nobody in this room will deny that. But, you all seem to thing this just started 4 years ago with a black, Muslim socialist, communist, Nazi, gay loving, unrepentant terrorist, baby killer from Kenya... who hates America.

      We have been fighting these forces since before the Constitution was written... and will continue to repeat our mistakes until more people grasp the truth of our history. I have the GREATEST respect for our military and the brave heroes who have given so much for ALL the rights reasons... but the problem is... they are commanded by Corporate Appointed, Chicken-Hawk draft dodgers in order to feed the glut of Corporate greed behind false rally cries of freedom... in "God's" name. So, the pathetically selected corporate appointees of John McCain and Willard Romney get beat by Obama... and it drives the puppet-masters crazy... and they rev up this hate machine propaganda... the likes of which... we have NEVER seen. And the worst part of it... they get good, honest... very well-intentioned people to work and fight against their own best interests. That is what I consider all of you to be. So... you can sit in here and pat your own backs, while shooting yourself in the foot... OR... expand your horizons beyond FOX and the likes of the Heritage Foundation. I'm open to the truth, wherever it comes from... I'm just not finding it here... Sorry!

    • medic2003

      Firs toff no need in calling names. I merely pointed out the obvious when i said you were the definition of a useful idiot. You still buy into the Obama BS so there ya go. Secondly I work 60 hours a week at a job Ive had for 15 years. You had no call to start the welfare comments. Only did it because you had nothing better.

      Did you even read ANY of the quotes I put up? If so did you understand them? This whole thing got started over a statement you made about the intent of the 2nd amendment and the founders intent. You were wrong and I proved it. id have to say I proved it pretty handily.

      Now that said, you arent incorrect about corrupt corporate owned politicians, but they damn sure arent just republicans. There are a handful of people in DC trying to do the right thing. MOST are Libertarian leaning republicans but Ill be fair and say that while I disagree with him on MANY things Dennis Kucinich seems to be sincere on the other side of things. By that I mean that even though I believe him to be wrong in a lot of things at least I believe hes fairly honest.

      My best interest if for the government to leave me the hell alone, for them to STOP taking my income to spend on unconstitutional wars and hand outs. DC is a cesspool for the most part. Based on your very hateful comment Id have to say we at least agree on that.

      IF you cant find truth in ANY of those quotes I posted then you are not open to it despite what you say. I dont need your consent to want the government to be operated in a Constitutional manner. I can get along just fine without the government trying to control every aspect of my life and I damn sure can protect myself without them. I dont need a nanny.

      Ther has been A LOT of unconstitutional things done with the consent of the majority and it is coming back to haunt us now. This crap started in the early 1900s. It has been slow an incremental and we have had very few people in power since that time that have not been completely corrupt.

      Now I suggest you expand your horizons a little and actually look at what has been said here, not just my post but the article an other comments. Dig for info beyond CNN and the Huffington post.

      Obama is a POS, Im definitely in agreement with that, however so were the previous 3 presidents before him, Reagan had his very good moments, in fact he was doing what he should in his first term and they shot him for it. Almost every president sine the early 1900s has been a puppet with only a couple exceptions.

    • http://www.facebook.com/don.holland.9400 Don Holland

      I doubt that Bdog hung around after he typed his insult. He wasn't going to read much, he just wanted to try and pizz somebody off.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mfernandez57 Michael Fernandez

      I would make one correction if you don't mind. You are right when you say, the second amendment allows us the "best" weapon we can obtain. You err when you (and others) continue to say that this was a "musket." No sir, that is incorrect. The best personal weapon of the day was the Kentucky Long Rifle. Granted that the KLR was a "musket" style weapon, due to its rifled barrel and length, it was accurate up to 200 yards compared to the British Brown Bess musket (smooth-bore) and its 50-60 yard max range. And so, the best weapon available was not your common smooth-bore musket, but the Kentucky Long Rifle. Where the standard musket was preferred by mainline army regiments due to it faster rate of fire, the long rifle was better adapted to the typical American skirmisher using guerrilla style tactics of ambush and sniping, especially since it was so accurate. Story is, that British officers were told to remove the braid that identified them when American snipers/skirmisher armed with rifles were expected, as officers in such cases had a very short life-span.

    • medic2003

      Lol point taken sir. You are correct in what you say. Still the fact is we arent to be limited to muzzloading black powder guns.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mfernandez57 Michael Fernandez

      Agreed. Read my reply to Don Holland above. :-)

    • http://www.facebook.com/don.holland.9400 Don Holland

      Thanks for the history lesson, it was interesting if of no other value. I hope this isn't going to be your greatest contribution to the coming war.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mfernandez57 Michael Fernandez

      In context, that's all THAT particular comment was intended to be, an interesting historical tidbit as an addendum to a very good article/comment.. As for the coming war, don't worry, I'm ready should the fecal matter hit the rotating ventilation device.

    • http://www.facebook.com/don.holland.9400 Don Holland

      Bdog is the typical little gutless wonder we will have to face when we finally are pushed off the cliff. This is what you will have to be afraid of. He is at his worst hiding where he cannot be found, calling names and talking almost like a man. Laughable isn't it?

    • Bdog

      I stand up EVERY DAY fighting for my freedoms as well as yours... and I'll still be standing to help you get off your ass when you finally figure out the truth!

    • Phillip_in_TX

      Thank you! Now, they can go crawl back "under their rock."

    • Bdog

      If you can't dazzle them with brilliance... baffle them with B.S.! (Was this a 'cut & paste' job... or did you really just spend the last several hours trying to impress yourself?... Some of us have jobs and reality to deal with!)

    • medic2003

      I'm at work now. Currently I'm getting paid to sit here and make a.sculpture of your brain. Dude it doesn't matter if I cut and pasted the earlier response to you. The difference between you and me is that I read and comprehended it. I replied to you regarding my employment. Unlike you I don't have to say would you like fries with that to everyone I deal with. you are the only one flinging any BS. I have tried to use facts and logic with u. I have even tried civility. It is all lost on you. The reality is, despite the fact that I have a job I am awake to the reality of what is going on in this country. You are not. I will post no further responses to you since I was correct in stating that you are a lost cause. You are just like every other koolaid drinker out there. You spout nonsense, get proven wrong and have nothing to add to the debate but name calling and cheap shots.

    • Bdog

      More B.S., insults and name-calling... What you practice is "*Projection*" my mis-guided friend. Was I supposed to tell you about my corporate life... that I've contributed to the work force for over 40 years and NEVER taken a dime of unemployment or government assistance? (By the way, I don't frequent 'fast-food' joints) I found no relevance in sharing it... but you took another cheap shot anyway. I guess, you're getting what you dish out. Happy to end it here! I feel no anger towards you... just pity. Best of luck!

    • medic2003

      Last word. lol. Dont pity me my friend, I know what my best interests are and what you pity me for certainly doesnt fit into that. I take care of myself and my family without big nanny government. I truly am happy for you if you are able to take care of yourself, however I wish you would realize most of us dont need or want the government taking care of us or telling us how to live.

      I hear that against your own best interest crap and i just get angry. Please put aside your preconceived notions about people with a different political ideal than yours and realize......we dont want the government in our lives.

      Do you honstly think id vote for ANYONE other than the criminals in office now if I thought they were helping me? Do you really believe I would contribute money to campaigns oustside what the establishment in both parties tries to push on us? Im not a mindless shill for party politics. I actually do my homework. Humor me, read my copy and paste job in its entirety and tell me Im wrong. You wont be able to. Not if you are objective about it. I only made this last response as an attempt at civility. No cheap shots.

      You are 100% correct in your statement that we were to have a militia and no standing army. That part i agree with. The list of quotes I posted reinforce that. You are incorrect in saying it is for the GOP corporate warfare. Show me ONE Democrat that has done anything different. Dont say Bill Clinton either. He had us in UN Peacekeeping mission after mission. Obama gets us in a new on every couple months. Without Congress declaring anything I might add. The sooner you realize BOTH parties are cut from the same cloth, the just spout different rhetoric the happier you will be. You also raised ire with starting your post off with name calling. I felt compelled to respond in kind. As did pretty much every other person that commented after. Lastly and reinforcing the militia argument.....we dont use muskets anymore do we? Stands to reason the militia, the whole body of the people, would have adequate weaponry to defend the country OR defend against tyranny,

    • RangerInParadise

      You didn't drink the Lib Kool Ade, you dove off a 50 foot platform head first into a sponge-full of it. I own NO weapons that will murder crowds in seconds.

      THOSE are employed by LEFTIST connected drones on brain chemistry altering drugs turned loose on society by the government. Try the TRUTH some day, Jackazz Party Member.

    • ManMountainMike

      It is my hope and prayer that you sir will obtain the wisdom to bow deeply and fart silently as the king passes by . . . .

      O.K. . . . seriously now . . . I am reminded of the Highway Patrolman who pulled over a driver to let her know that she had a burned out tail light. He asked for her registration and drivers license. She provided it to him and he noticed a designation on her drivers license indicating that she was 84 years old and had a concealed carry weapon permit.

      He asked her if she was carrying a gun. She replied, yes I am sir. I have a 38 Smith & Wesson revolver in my glove box, a Colt 45 automatic in the console and my Glock 19 with a 15 round clip under the seat. He kind of laughed and asked what she was afraid of? She answered . . . "Not a damn thing."

      It is my opinion that you have absolutely no idea what the 2nd amendment was about. You should seriously study not only the few sentences found in that precious document that gave us that right, but also all of the writings and discussions of the day from the very people who wrote it . . . and also history.

      By the way . . . . none of us that I know of, are ignorant cowards, nor frightened. In fact it is the very people that you disparage that protect your 1st amendment rights . . . . . think that one through.

      My advice, (not that you are asking for any) . . . would be to put your energy in a more useful place . . . . like halting the senseless murder of nearly 1,000,000 innocent, unprotected and defenseless unborn children. The approximate 11,000 annual murder by firearms in our country annually pales in comparison to the death wreaked by the abortion process. Some estimate that the partial birth abortion far exceeds the number of murder by firearms although they only estimate since reporting is only voluntary. Sad really!

      Till you accomplish that, please do not preach to anyone about size of our standing army, corporate expansionism or your self proclaimed superior knowledge.

      Now, God Bless and have a great day . . . . .

    • http://www.facebook.com/roxene.kimes Roxene Kimes

      You. Bdog are zzzz. This is not about left and right. It is about right and wrong. The polarization is blinding you by design. The world wide army you speak of is run by those who fund both sides (with the fiat paper) of both the wars (they design) and the political polarized idiots that drive them. Our last hope for reality and a reinstatement of the golden rule into foreign affairs died with the candidacy of Dr. Paul the ONLY real statesman to run in years..

    • medic2003

      Amen

    • http://www.facebook.com/tom.thygesen.3 Tom Thygesen

      "Under your GOP heroes... we have more than quadrupled the standing army."
      What the hell are you talking about Bdog? We increased our army by about 5% under Bush. But Obama has more than undone that. In fact, the cuts have only just begun. And on top of this he's now ordered women be placed on combat units and by quota. The magic term "critical mass" was used in the Chief of Staff's announcement, which means 20% of our forces will be female. That's how it was in Australia, foisted on them by their socialist labor party in the 1980s. They warned us of this and the damaging effects as Clinton ordered the Navy and Air Force to open combat ships and aircraft to women. We instantly followed the 20% quota standard. And now it's being foisted onto the marines and army. It's being done while we downsize and is designed to ensure out combat capability for fighting any enemy is nullified.
      And as for your "musket" argument, you're clueless. Muskets, rifles, pistols, swords, etc., all were the state-of-the-art weaponry at the time the Constitution was written. If you bothered to educate yourself on what the founders meant, you'd know they wanted the people armed with the same personal arms as soldiers, and that this was done in order to keep people practiced at the use of arms. We had plenty of state armories filled with weapons from the revolutionary war. However, people were expected to keep their own weapons with which to practice AND to ensure the government didn't become the only entity with the ability to use force. It was their own government, the British government, which put out the order to disarm the people by seizing all the powder and shot and whatever weapons were at the various armories across the colonies. They succeeded in seizing the armories in some areas, like Williamburg, VA. They failed at Lexington, MA. Perhaps you heard of it? The battle of Lexington and Concorde? It became know as "the shot heard around the world." British troops in Boston were ordered to march to Lexington to seize the armory there in a country wide order to disarm the colonists. Because of the warnings by Paul Revere and other riders, Massachussets Minutemen beat the British to the armory so by the time the latter got there they found it had already been cleared out. They were then sniped at all the way back to Boston. Technically, following the constitution's true intent, fully automatic capable rifles -- true "assault rifles" ought to be legal. They are in Switzerland and are even issued by the military.
      Many of use have AR-15s to practice. I had one to develop and keep up my skills, because the navy wouldn't have us shoot. Unless they are a SEAL or one of a few other select units, the only time a sailor will see a gun in their career is in basic training. It's stupid and leaves people completely ignorant until the last minute. Such was the case with navy personnel being called up to be sent to Iraq and Afghanistan. I had to fight to get permission to train my reserve unit members to shoot in anticipation of being called up for the GWOT. I finally did it, but after I returned from Iraq, found senior reserve leadership kanked all further opportunities. Like some local commanders, they feared allowing any individual unit training, especially on their own, for reasons of "liability." One commander I worked for actually feared someone might "hurt themselves" during training. She was more worried about how this might affect her career than our people having the skills they needed if called up to serve in a combat unit. The attitude of these people was, "If they will deploy, they'll get firearms training at Fort Jackson." YEAH! Wen we got called up, we got a whopping two weeks training at Fort Jackson, with about three days being firearms. Many people did poorly and some of the women simply couldn't quality. That didn't prevent them from being deployed though! Stupid policy. When I returned to learn that all I'd pushed for -- which ensure my people knew what they were doing and scored well on the range -- had been undone by bureaucrats in uniform, I put in my paperwork and retired.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WDG3IVIUPGVHNQMRQWKVF372QA bobt

      Bdog you appear to be the ignorant one.
      First you are told clearly by our founders how to read and interpret what they say -

      “Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government.” James Madison

      So as YOU just did with your MUSKET argument - trying to bastardize the constitution, toss that out and listen to what they wanted in their own words.

      "On every question of construction, let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p. 322.

      "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials." George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on Ratification of the Constitution,

      "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms..." Richard Henry Lee, 1788, Member of the First U.S. Senate.

      "Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American...[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." --Tenche Coxe, an American political economist and a delegate for Pennsylvania to the Continental Congress, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.

      Our founders did NOT want the citizens to be armed with MUSKETS. They
      wanted every CITIZEN armed with anything a modern infantry soldier was
      equipped with today. That is CLEARLY in the above paragraph .. READ IT AGAIN if you need to.

      Lastly have we seen this type of thing in more recent history? YES we have. But it was properly addressed by the supreme court.

      "If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878

      Lastly, we live in a Republic

      "The whole of the Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals ... It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has the right to deprive them of." Albert Gallatin

      No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson,

    • SickandTired

      My modern Musket is an M-16, but since I belong to the Sub-Citizen class I have to make due with an AR-15 for now!

    • http://www.facebook.com/don.holland.9400 Don Holland

      You are an ignorant little frightened coward who talks big only when he can do it anonymously behind some made up name, coward.

    • Bdog

      If I cared about YOUR opinion, that might bother me... lol!

    • Retired MSGT USAF

      You are wrong! Here is a quote from one who was there: The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. Richard Henry Lee ~US SENATOR~ 1789 to 1792

    • Phillip_in_TX

      You may want to read about the "Russian Revolution" and find out what your fate is. Pay really close attention to what happened to the "useful idiots."

    • hbbill

      Muskets? If that is the case perhaps you should limit your rants to speaking from soap boxes on corners and printing presses that use movable type. That was what was commonly used when muskets were the military pattern assault rifle.

      hbbill
      Somewhere behind enemy lines,
      Peoples Republik of Kalifornistan

    • rosech

      Right on! Let her turn n her weapons and get rid of her armed guard first! Yep, just like most of our politicians, she used her position to make more money for her and her husband, just like Pelosi. They need to go. Their brains are wired wrong and need to be electrically shocked to see if their brains can start working like American citizens and not against us but for us! I don't hold my breath, however.

    • http://www.facebook.com/charles.glover.14 Charles Glover

      If I tried to perpetrate fraud on the American people like most of our politicians, I would want armed guards around me also.

    • http://www.facebook.com/don.holland.9400 Don Holland

      Armed guards will be of no use when the citizens come for her.

    • Phillip_in_TX

      You hit the nail, right on the head!

    • http://www.facebook.com/don.holland.9400 Don Holland

      They need to be made to answer for their crimes against the people and the constitution. All must be brought to justice.

    • Retired MSGT USAF

      I think she needs to go to Napa State Hospital for an evaluation under State controlled conditions. I know when I got out of high school and worked there I saw many who acted just like her along with Nancy Pelosi, and Barbara Boxer too.

    • Phillip_in_TX

      If you really want to get to her, Boxer, Hillary, and the rest - ban their "brooms!"

    • medivac

      Phillip, what we need is a no parking zone in every corner of the whitehouse----but then Moooochelle would have to use outside parking then !!!

    • Phillip_in_TX

      That's okay, she's needs the "exercise." Of course, it might scare the neighbors!

    • The Old Man

      It is a shame we have these paranoid people in office, I wonder if she hears little voices telling her what to do and say.
      She sure acts like it and I am not a phychiatrist... it's that obvious to me.

    • Sniper

      She works for george soros,and she knows she is commiting treason.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Millard-Huff/100001533647046 Millard Huff

      I'M a combat vietnam vet and i will not comply with any laws that are against the U.S.Constitution and the Second Amendment that comes out of the U.S Senate and the House and if you love this Country you will not COMPLY EIGHTER.
      LIVE FREE OR DIE.

    • Sniper

      And this twenty year veteran will be there to help defend this country because I still honor the oath I have taken to defend this country against the enemy within. Lots of what I read on this page sound like your given up.their are thousands of us military vets who will defend this great country,will you stand with us?

    • http://www.facebook.com/don.holland.9400 Don Holland

      I will stand in front of you, but on the same side.

    • Phillip_in_TX

      Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammo!

    • TexasOlTimer

      All the vets I've talked to say they'll honor it - we're here, ready and waiting!

    • Retired MSGT USAF

      Same here!
      The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.
      Richard Henry Lee ~U.S. Senator~1789 to 1792

      Now there is a Senator you could get behind, in his own words.

    • http://www.facebook.com/sheila.mchenry Sheila McHenry

      No wonder she was one of the ones voting for the end of habeus corpus. Time to stand up and stand together, Patriots.

    • http://www.facebook.com/charles.glover.14 Charles Glover

      Simply put. She is an enemy of the people and should be delt with accordingly.

    • leithel1

      What is this "may" stuff? They have been spotted. They are everywhere. They even rigged the voting machines and some actually voted.

    • timmyT

      Feinstein is just another piece of crap from California. They have been drinking too much Kool-Aid" out there.

    • http://www.facebook.com/pizzed.off Pizzed Off

      "I need my semi auto to hunt hogs..." I've heard those pigs in DC called lots of things but never food for the table. But, considering how they're ripping off American taxpayers, I guess I could be convinced. They'd have to be coated in tar and slow roasted so that when the tar all burns off, everything would just fall off the bones. Then you throw everything away and eat the tar. Congresspeople are poison.

    • Zelda

      Retired...I just pray these people will realize what they are asking Americans to do. When the White House is attract and the National Guard is defending the people of their own state, what is Ms. Frankenstein going to do. And I hope every one of them will live long enough far Justice to come knocking at their door.
      obama is out to kill this country, can't see why they cannot read the warning ?

    • 7papa7

      Couldn't agree with you more. Even if the police could get there in 2 or 3 minutes, that is still MORE than enough for the bad guys to kill you. I, not the police, are responsible for the safety of my family, besides their are a small majority of really bad cops out there. These idiots shouldn't be making legislation of any kind, they don't even know the difference between an automatic weapon and a semi automatic weapon. They have proven once again that they are totally ignorant about basic weapons. The bottom line is it doesn't matter if you agree or disagree about weapons, the Constitution gives us the right to own any kind of weapon we want along with any accessories we desire. NO where in the Constitution are their ANY restrictions, any restrictions are only in the minds of the liberals.

    • Donald York

      You said it all buddy! Yes, Ms. Feinstein is a traitor!

  • Drifanwulf

    The Second Amendment does not specify what types of arms or accessories the American people can own. Rifles were evolving even in the days of our founding fathers, so they knew not to make specifications pertaining to what types the people had a right to own. The overall intent of the Second Amendment was to enable the people to throw off any government they considered to be abusive of their rights. Senator Feinstein refuses to acknowledge this truth.

    • Xin_Loi

      What the anti-freedom scum like to say, and never get tired of saying, is that when the Founders wrote the Second Amendment, the American people were only armed with muskets.
      But what they conveniently leave out is that the military at the time was also only armed with muskets. So by their reasoning, the American people should be armed with fully-automatic M16s, the same as the military of today, just to keep us on an even footing.

    • http://www.facebook.com/rumsower Montie Rumsower

      You are wrong. The English military had smooth bore muskets wile the American patriots had true rifles that gave them a distinct distance advantage.

    • refurb001

      Never heard that. They had black powder rifles with rifling in the bore? Never heard that. You have a source?

    • geeshim

      It's not a secret. The German gun smiths in Pennsylvania and later Kentucky started turning them out. They were the "long rifles." Extra long, rifled barrels. Very accurate and deadly in the right hands - perfect for the snipers of their times. However, being civilian hunting weapons, they couldn't take a bayonet and wouldn't stand up to the abuse of being used as a club in close-quarters fighting. On a side note, some Brits had an early breech-loader.

    • Montford greenwood

      Most of those rifled barrels.
      Weren't they mostly militia at first and sharpshooters?
      Then they were disseminated out to more units from there?
      I think that's what I read years ago on this.
      Do you know?

    • geeshim

      The only people who had the rifled muskets were the ones who bought them themselves. The militia had whatever they owned personally. For most people, it was a civilian smooth bore hunting or fowling piece. The rifled muskets were few in number since they were all custom builds and more expensive with only so many gunsmiths producing them. Which is fine, because lots of militia men were veterans of the French and Indian War and were hunters, etc. and could shoot. After Valley Forge and getting European-quality infantry training, they were also able to stand up in line of battle and give the Brits as good as they got. We also have to keep in mind that war goods coming from France would have included only smooth bore muskets. In any event - we won!

    • Montford greenwood

      ty

    • Retired MSGT USAF

      http://www.kentuckylongrifles.com/
      This site will tell you the basics.

    • fidoes

      The Kentucky long rifle built in Pennsylvania by a German gunsmith rifled and with quality craftsmanship and accurate out to 300 yards. The British troops started to get real squeamish about small squads of frontiersman that could pick them off at 200-300 yards out and the British musket wasn`t very accurate at 50 yards

    • geeshim

      Some did. Most not.

    • http://www.facebook.com/tom.thygesen.3 Tom Thygesen

      Actually, the American patriots had a mix of rifles and muskets. Muskets were part of the colonial armories of the time and were the weapons shipped to us in foreign aid from the French, Dutch, etc. Typical militiamen, who had their own arms, had rifles and often preferred them. The musket is more useful in close order combat by military units against other units. The rifles did not have any means to use bayonets and were slower to load, but afforded an advantage when used as snipers. Such as the case at the Battle of North Point, MD, as the British troops that burned Washington DC redeployed and moved against Baltimore. A militia sniper took General Ross right off his horse. Riflemen also played a major part earlier in the Revolution, such as at the Battle of Saratoga.

    • Raymond

      New Element

      The densest element yet known to science has been discovered. The new element has been named "Obamacronium."

      Obamacronium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 911.

      These particles are held together by dark forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.

      The symbol for Obamacronium is "O."

      Obamacronium's mass actually increases over time, as these morons randomly interact with various elements in the atmosphere and become assistant deputy neutrons in a Obamacronium molecule, forming a large cluster of idiotopes.

      This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientists to believe that Obamacronium is formed whenever morons reach a critical mass also known as "Critical Morass."

      When catalyzed with money, Obamacronium activates CNNnewsium, an element radiating several orders of magnitude more energy, mostly as incoherent noise, since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Millard-Huff/100001533647046 Millard Huff

      I bet you a liberal would never understand that in a hundred years.Can i send that to my moron senater.He's a sorry liberal

    • leithel1

      I would change Senators.

    • http://www.facebook.com/charles.glover.14 Charles Glover

      The best treatises of this idiot adminstration Ihave seen yet.

    • Bdog

      That was actually pretty funny, Raymond! Nice!

    • Sniper

      Wonder how many libs are packing their bags and fearing the word,TREASON.

    • ManMountainMike

      AMEN!

    • http://www.facebook.com/tom.thygesen.3 Tom Thygesen

      BINGO! (he says while pointing at his nose.) That's precisely right Xin. Welcome to the true Americans club.

    • Drifanwulf

      Personally I prefer the M4 but I totally agree with you.

    • Bdog

      Can you get a tank... a howitzer... a grenade launcher... an F-15. I doubt it! What's your point? If anyone takes Constitutional advise from you... they're just as ignorant. Then again... stupid is... as stupid does!

    • rivahmitch

      Enjoy your slavery or dhimmitude,

    • CaptTurbo

      You can only get tanks and F-16s if you are the Muslim Brotherhood, Obama's people. He is supplying them as I type this.

    • ManMountainMike

      LOL! . . . Bingo! I loved your post! Thanks . . . .

    • geeshim

      He's spot on. And actually, we should have access to the same things the government has. We ought to have state militias that exist only to protect the state and that cannot be federalized.

    • RangerInParadise

      I'd love to have an M-60a4 parked in place of my SUV. Fully loaded with ordnance. And a full rack of automatic weapons, grenade launchers, AT rocket launchers, the works and an unending stock of ammo for all.

      Who's going to mess with me then?

      Somebody with the newer M-1 tank maybe. But that's IT.

    • http://twitter.com/wine4u wine4u

      According to the 2nd Ammendment, as our founding fathers intended, if you can afford them, you can own them. It's not rocket science if you read the 2nd Ammendment and the associated documents of the time. Or you can prefer to be a media drone and believe anything you see or hear on TV.

    • ManMountainMike

      There you go again Bdog . . . . and the answer to your question is no, but we should be able to. If I had all of the sophisticated weaponry that you have proposed along with the ability to use that you have described I would do evil or commit crime with it. That is the weakness of your entire argument. You seem to incorrectly connect dots that do not collect . . . lawful gun owners are not the ones committing the crimes that you fear. Law abiding citizens that own the estimated 288,000,000 - 310,000,000 firearms in this country are not the ones committing the crimes that you base your argument on . . . . . do not be afraid, we will not hurt you . . . . . .

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WDG3IVIUPGVHNQMRQWKVF372QA bobt

      Again, you show your ignorance. anything an INFANTRY SOLDIER could carry a citizen should have. What is so difficult for you to understand?

      "Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American...[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people."

      So if they can carry a fully auto machine gun, our founders would
      want us to have one as well. It is time to repeal the FFL and grant us
      all the right to carry them as well actually. But leftists are NEVER
      happy. They took machine guns away in the 30's. Now it is plain semi
      auto's that basically "look scary"

      GET A GRIP ON REALITY - I know .. hard for you .. you been listening to the democrats and libs for so long you believe what they say. But try to come back to the planet for a visit every now and then.

    • Retired MSGT USAF

      The plain fact is he or she has never had to fight for his/her life. Maybe, just maybe this will happen soon and then the eyes open up, the ear hear, and the crap is scared out of them to wake up and smell the rosey crap of the liberals who Bdog has been sniffing.

    • Retired MSGT USAF

      bdog, You just don't get it do you? Read the 2nd Amendment then read the founding fathers documents to find out why they bothered to put it in the Bill of Rights. Quit trying to deny your constitutional rights, because it is yours as well as mine. WAKE UP, before you regret the loss of your rights. After all it is every citizens right to own or not own a weapon. Not to take that right away from someone who you disagree with, that is not your right to do or the governments right. If you were to read the Constitution the government has no rights to do anything that We The People dont give them. You sooner or later will loose all rights, if the government can take away only one. Cant you understand that fact?

    • Bdog

      I have read the 2nd Amendment and the Constitution... and I don't want anyone's rights taken away! Thus, I am denying nothing. You warn me to "WAKE UP" before I regret the loss of my rights... when I've been screaming about this since 2001, the so-called "Patriot Act"... the torture memos, Rendition, the hiring of a mercenary army to allow 'plausible deniability' of war crimes... surveillance of American citizens by the NSA and other organizations... then Citizens United... the very high probability that 9-11 was a domestic operation, this nation was lied into two wars... and Republicans and Democrats alike were cowered into submission.

      This is supposed to be government by... for... on behalf of.. and with the "CONSENT" of the American people. Nobody in this room will deny that. But, you all seem to thing this just started 4 years ago with a
      black, Muslim socialist, communist, Nazi, gay loving, unrepentant terrorist, baby killer from Kenya... who hates America.

      We have been fighting these forces since before the Constitution was written... and will continue to repeat our mistakes until more people grasp the truth of our history. I have the GREATEST respect for our military and the brave heroes who have given so much for ALL the rights reasons... but being commanded by Chicken-Hawk draft dodgers only to feed the glut of Corporate greed behind false rally cries of freedom... in "God's" name. Even worse... they get good, honest... very well-intentioned people to work and fight against their own best interests. So... I would say, I "get it"... much more than you give me credit for.

    • rosech

      Can't cure stupid nor ignorance if they are closeminded, now can we. Just get rid of them and the sooner the better.

    • Ballistic45

      Hunting was an everyday need in the 16, 17, 18 hundreds, it was a given for survival..
      Let us be clear, the 2nd Amendment is NOT about HUNTING or the weapons used for that purpose, PERIOD... Even though Liberals would like you to believe that it is... Which gives them the argument that "Assault Rifles" and more than 10 rounds are not needed for Hunting, which is a good argument if it were true...
      The 2 Amendment has EVERYTHING to do with the PRESERVATION of Liberty AND the Weapons used for that purpose... We already gave up our true Assault weapons in the 1930's, now they are back for our SEMI automatic weapons and any Magazine over 10 rounds... Which means only Government Agents, Politicians, and Criminals will be armed to the teeth...

    • ManMountainMike

      Amen! Hunting is a totally different animal and in no way connected with the 2nd Amendment.

      Also, when protecting oneself there is no guarantee that you will only be attacked by one or two intruders at a time and most certainly not every bullet fired will be a kill shot.

      It is a known fact by most people that own weapons and every law enforcement officer that it is extremely difficult to bring down a perpetrator that is under the influence of certain easily obtainable and often abused illegal drugs with only one or two bullets.

      We are on the slipper slope . . . . . if every law on the books was being enforced and we still had this problem, I still would not consider the ban on weapons. Truth is, it would not be possible to have the problem we have now if all existing laws were enforced. Of the approximately 11,000 annual gun related deaths in our country, over 2/3 of them are committed by gangs . . . . . maybe that is where the priority should be with regards to gun control.

      Historically, criminals have always been able to obtain guns through a variety of sources . . . usually from a higher level of criminal enterprise . . . like those involved with "Operation Fast & Furious". Once you get criminals like that under wraps and controlled . . . you have won the battle . . . .

      It is not the average 'Joe Citizen' that commits firearm crimes.

    • hbbill

      Sadly, they will go for the low hanging fruit first......us.

      hbbill
      Somewhere behind enemy lines,
      Peoples Republik of Kalifornistan

    • leithel1

      The DICK ACT of 1902. It is a law passed by Congress that enforces the 2nd amendment and allows any United States Citizen to buy as many guns of any type that he can afford.

    • http://www.facebook.com/charles.glover.14 Charles Glover

      Frainstien is a prime example of why the 2nd was included in the Bill Of Rights.

    • Carl Stevenson

      No, she KNOWS. But it's in their way. They can't rule with absolute power as long as we're capable of resisting.

    • http://www.facebook.com/tom.thygesen.3 Tom Thygesen

      It's far worse than that Drifanwulf. Feinstein and her fellow leftists know all to well this is what the 2nd amendment is all about and they wish to quash it. They feel threatened by an armed populace. They fear and loath the people having power. They prefer to lord over us by decree and the threat of armed revolt if they go too far makes them fearful. So, they're trying to remove the threat. It will start with so-called "assault weapons," but will rapidly expand to other arms, and by her own admission. All of them -- Obama, the Clintons, Feinstein, Pelosi, Schumer, et al -- have at one time or another let their true agenda be known. Feinstein's statement years ago as she tried to ban our guns was, "If I had my way, we'd ban them all right now. I'd say, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn'em all in!" Hillary Clinton said, "People have no business being armed. Only the police and military ought to have guns."

    • http://www.facebook.com/roxene.kimes Roxene Kimes

      "Senator Feinstein refuses to acknowledge this truth."

      Senator Feinstein does not even know what truth is. She is the wrong gender to even be making these type of decisions. She only knows what she *feels* but feelings generally get in the way of what one should actually believe. Decisions concerning national security should be in the hands of qualified statesman who have not yet been emasculated by the political correctness which is the epitome of feelings that now have more weight than truth. With women in these positions political correctness will continue to outweigh the truth. PC is the death of truth.