Democrat Leaders: We Aren't Done Taxing Americans


After the fiscal cliff deal was done, imposing higher taxes this year on all those making $40,000 per year or more, three different Democrats took to three different Sunday shows to push for more taxation on the American people.

First up was Democrat House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA). She appeared on CBS' Face the Nation and Bob Schieffer asked her if the "revenue side" of the fiscal cliff is complete. For Democrats, revenue means taxes.

"No, no, it is not," Pelosi replied. "I mean, the president had said originally he wanted $1.6 trillion in revenue. He took it down to $1.2 as a compromise. In this legislation (fiscal cliff) we had $620 billion, very significant, high-end tax -- changing the high-end tax rate to 39.6 percent. But that is not enough on the revenue side."

"Are you talking about more taxes?" Schieffer asked.

"We're talking about looking at the tax code, putting everything on the table from the standpoint of closing loopholes... and we know that we can do that... special subsidies for big oil, for example, $38 billion right there," Pelosi said. Which was a long answer for, "Yes we are talking about more taxes."

"But again, not to take things in isolation, just to say, OK, well, how much more revenue can we get as we go forward?" Of course this is isolated. It's exactly what she and her accomplices in Washington are saying and doing across the board.

When Schieffer asked if the Democrats wanted to eliminate tax deductions, Pelosi replied, "My idea of tax reform is to have a comprehensive view. We've talked about tax simplification and fairness as something that we should be engaged in all along -- long before these fights came along. And now we have a chance to do that with I'd say a heightened awareness by the public on why we need to do certain things."

"So let's, you know, put on the table what it is that we can, in order to increase revenue," Pelosi said. "We've changed the rate, the high-end tax rate, (to) 39.6 percent, a very important step. And again, there's much more that we can do by just subjecting it to the scrutiny of what is bringing in revenue, what is creating growth. And we don't want to hurt that if there's some tax provisions that create growth. We want to support that."

While she attempted to talk about not raising taxes on those in the middle class, sort of like they did with the previous deal and then taxed us, she used the same rhetoric as before stating that taxing those in higher income brackets was "not off the table."

Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D_MD) appeared on Fox News Sunday and echoed the talking points that Pelosi put forward. When asked about Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's statement that there would be no more tax hikes, Van Hollen replied, "Well, if Mitch McConnell is going to draw the line in the sand, it's going to be a recipe for more gridlock. We have to take a balanced approach to long-term deficit reduction -- meaning additional (spending) cuts."


For Democrats "balanced" means getting all they want and giving nothing in return, like real spending cuts, for example.

Van Hollen told a lie of about $110 billion concerning the fiscal cliff deal. He said, ""We raised $730 billion in revenue from very high income individuals. As we go forward, we need to adopt the same framework as the bipartisan Simpson-Bowles commission, meaning a combination of cuts and revenue." Actually Congressman you guys might raise $620 billion, if you are lucky. That's peanuts in the big scheme of things. Obviously the Maryland congress man needs a course in economics as he referenced "closing tax loopholes" and declared, "So, through tax reform, we can raise more revenue matched by additional cuts to address the sequester issue and long-term deficit." Raising taxes produces less revenue. It always has and everyone knows you don't do that when the economy is in the toilet.

Finally, Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) appeared on CNN's State of the Union and continued with the whole "close the loopholes" rhetoric. "I can tell you that there are still deductions, credits, special treatments under the tax code which ought to be looked at very carefully," he said. "We forgo about $1.2 trillion a year in the tax code, money that otherwise would go to the government, and when you look closely, some of those things are near and dear to us individually and to the economy -- the mortgage interest deduction, charitable deductions, deductions for state and local taxes, but beyond that, trust me, there are plenty of things within that tax code, these loopholes where people can park their money in some island offshore and not pay taxes, these are things that need to be closed. We can do that and use the money to reduce the deficit."

Host Candy Crowley asked him, "So there are other taxes that you believe that you can, however you want to put them, raise, retrieve, whatever, from the wealthy?" Note his response.

"Absolutely," replied Durbin. "And I'll also tell you that I think we need to open our minds to our tax revenue. You know, we've had conversations about an infrastructure fund that will really start America building again, for the highways and airports and locks and dams and things like that...I believe we should have energy taxes that really fund infrastructure investment."

"Open our minds" is code for steal from the American people's wallets. He's talking about the same "infrastructure" that Barack Obama talked about in 2008 and threw hundreds of thousands of dollars at that apparently still didn't get things fixed as he made that a part of his 2012 campaign also.

Oh I almost forgot, Durbin also thinks that raising gas taxes should be raised too, as well as, higher taxes on electricity. Tell me, just who are those taxes affecting? It isn't just the rich!

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  • Texas Patriot

    We warned you stupid liberals!!!

    • http://twitter.com/MarineSurveyorT CAPT. Philip Topps

      Might as well talk to a brick wall. You will never convince the parasite class that socialism is a BAD thing.

    • http://www.facebook.com/don.holland.9400 Don Holland

      We will no longer be able to tolerate the liberals in this country after the war.

  • http://www.facebook.com/marilyn.l.lester Marilyn L. Lester

    Democrats deserve you.

  • wtram46

    I hope all those ingrates that voted for Obast-rd enjoy their not-so-free phones!!! I think Obama will drive himself off a cliff before this term is done!! He is headed for disaster and it is something he cannot avoid!! I will help him destroy himself any way I can!!!

  • shannon853

    since polesi is so set on raising taxes, how about a 45% increase on members of congress no matter what income bracket they are in? or should that be a flat tax of 50% of their income with no deductions?

    • 4evrMoi

      That's a good thought, but realistically - can someone out there explain "why" a FLAT TAX FOR EVERY AMERICAN wouldn't work? Wouldn't the rich/wealthy have to pay more since their incomes are higher??? =

    • shannon853

      actually in the 1940's life magazine proposed a 10% flat rate tax and had the figures to show it was easily workable. the problem is congress didn't think of it and so what we the people think still does not count. teh idea congress seems to have is how to break the american people. since congress allowed our industries to go overseas, along with our industries went our wealth, jobs and we not have a workforce that is loosing it's skills by teh day. with no jobs to speak of, our brain dead congress is working overtime to give amnesty to all illegals which will place more cost to the workers, less and less jobs our our citizens and soon the bottom will fall out. the wealth of our country has gone to china, mexico and other countries. if the EPA keeps it up. there will only be jobs in fast food and useless paper pushing. i think the new saying , a change from reagon, should be "i'm from the government, i'm here to screw you!"

    • http://www.facebook.com/lynn.graham.14 Lynn Graham

      PROBLEM IS....WHEN YOU ARE WEALTHY, YOU ONLY PAY YOURSELF $1 A YR........HOWS THAT GOING TO WORK OUT?????

    • DoingMoreWithLes

      Should be 50% on their net worth since most of them made it stealing us blind.

    • http://www.facebook.com/lynn.graham.14 Lynn Graham

      yours too?????

    • DoingMoreWithLes

      What net worth, they stole mine already with all their schemes. Yes they can take 50% of nothing. You ever notice how they create some scheme and then divorce themselves of it when it fails? You know like the housing crisis created by them.

    • http://www.facebook.com/lynn.graham.14 Lynn Graham

      can't argue with that.....my point was....when are we going to tax the takers....I sit and watch welfare(lets call it what it is) recipients, do nothing all yr.....then get an......wait for it.......EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT.....HUH????? also....at what point does it become "fair" that those of us who own (mortgage notwithstanding) our homes......should give those up because we didnt EARN them anyway......there is no end to these people

    • DoingMoreWithLes

      This is all about keeping money in circulation. See if you sit on it and don't spend it then it's not constantly switching hands. The takers don't sit on money, they spend it as fast as they get it. I know you can invest it, but then it doesn't switch hands 15 times and the residual scrapping doesn't happen. Every transaction is taxed. I don't care what income group you are in you are taxed. There is also the residuals the banking community for constantly shifting money. So money at rest in your pocket is a bad thing to the social thinkers.

      Also remember that the Federal Government gets to keep the biggest share of all those dollars. THE biggest scam for all this social reform is that the Federal Government is running on a 75% overhead rate. 50 to 75 % is burned internally. Why does it take 18 layers and who knows how many 6 figure salaries to hand out money to "needy" people?

      When they do find Fraud, Waste, Abuse, Mismanagement, Malfeasance, Incompetence, etc. they always look the other way and start up a new Department or Agency, never fixing or shutting down any failure. They've gotten a lot better at it too by hiding everything behind their "State Secrets". As one SpeCiaL Agent told me, "We must control the truth". It's a disgusting system that just has to crash on it's own because too many of the citizens are sucking on the government's tit thinking they are getting their fare share. See that light at the end of the tunnel?

  • agbjr

    "The people of the U.S. owe their Independence & their liberty, to the wisdom of descrying in the minute tax of 3 pence on tea, the magnitude of the evil comprised in the precedent. Let them exert the same wisdom, in watching against every evil lurking under plausible disguises, and growing up from small beginnings."

    James Madison

  • danclamage

    Democrats just want us to be equally poor. What's fairer than that?

  • WATCHMAN

    You know, the Founding Fathers advocated and were successful in throwing off the shackles of Great Britain when they continued to tax the colonists! Shouldn't we also be advocating throwing off the shackles of the Democrat (read: Socialist) Party due to their continuous assault on Americans and continuous taxation. Before, there was taxation without representation. Now it's taxation WITH representation!! I'm fed up with them all, including the GOP. TIME FOR A REAL TEA PARTY!!!

    • 4evrMoi

      It's all stated in the Declaration Of Independence AND it tells We The People exactly "how" to rid ourselves of the usurper and stop the tyranny! MY question: WHY AND WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR???!!!

    • CarlB

      I agree. What are we waiting for?

    • http://www.facebook.com/don.holland.9400 Don Holland

      You just asked the 64 thousand dollar question, and the answer is.............

    • http://www.facebook.com/lynn.graham.14 Lynn Graham

      we need to re-figure our personal tax structure....if you own a business, start running at a loss....if this means slowing down, or even shutting down, so be it.....if you work for someone else,,,,go to human resources and change your filing status....claim 10 dependents....put the amount of money you will owe the IRS in a savings account, and wait until the 15th of april (at 11:00 P.M.) to send it in......If everyone were to do this....we would see our govt. finally collapse....THEN WE COULD START TO RE-BUILD......AND IT IS ALL LEGAL

    • real talk 1

      Well do you want to be called a racists, And a war monger ?

    • kysteelgirl

      Sticks & stones can break my bones
      but names can never hurt me!

    • http://www.facebook.com/starrider49 Rat Cole

      lets get it started. I'm game

    • noitaint

      It's almost like they're trying to get us to go on strike so they can install martial law.

    • http://twitter.com/MarineSurveyorT CAPT. Philip Topps

      Exactly! Right after the attempt to confiscate our weapons. Not only that, but that weasel Jose Serrano already fulfilled my prediction of MONTHS ago, that someone would try to mount an attempt to repeal the 22nd Amendment.
      He may not succeed, (he,and others have tried before) but they will keep trying to in order to install Dictator Bummer as permanent "president-for-life". How else can they make that idiotic "Life of Julia" a reality?
      We don't get rid of this Marxist regime, by any means necessary, our children and grandchildren WILL live under communism, as boasted by Nikita S. Khrushchev in the 60s.

    • http://www.facebook.com/don.holland.9400 Don Holland

      Make no mistake, when we start we better be commited because there will be no turning back.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Warren-Anthony/100000736216869 Warren Anthony

    Well come on now... someone must pay for million dollar vacations and $50,000 rounds of golf. You can eat cake after all.

    • Big K

      I can't afford a private jet that costs $180,000 an hour to operate. Never mind come home during my vacation causing a second round trip flight. Who has 6.5 Million hanging around for that. Oh yeah, the Tax Payers. Barry spent 20 Million tax Payer dollars on this one vacation. Way to go Mr. Pres.

    • 4evrMoi

      Really? Well then, it would seem apprpriate to do to obummer what The People did to Marie Antoinnette . . . OFF WITH HIS HEAD! =)>

  • freedomforall

    Reprehensible!!! All those stupid, illiterate, ignorant people who voted for obama are the ones we should be thanking for tax increases. That's including the idiots who voted for Prop 30 in California which will go to fund the education of all illegal children. We've got to be the stupidest people on the planet. And Pelosi, STILL the minority leader in the House. How stupid is this democrat/socialist party? Apparently very. The time is coming when every American who values The Constitution will rise about against the tyranny of this present government and those who somehow convinced their subjects that they were the ones smarter than they to be set in DC. Our country is going to hell.

    • 4evrMoi

      You're right! This Country IS going to Hell and We The People are (still) standing back ALLOWING the desecration of our Constitution! The "time is COMING"? The "time" is PAST!! We The People are doing way too much talking and NOT ACTING! "WHY" are we sitting back waiting - EXPECTING Congress to do the jobs they were elected to do ... REPRESENT We The People AND PROTECT OUR FREEDOMS, AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS! They ARE NOT DOING THEIR "JOBS", WE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR EVERYTHING, and we're STILL SITTING BACK WAITING FOR THEM TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THIS NATION AND HER PEOPLE! WHY?????

  • Tex

    OK, Ya'll. I just cannot help myself here so go easy on me. First, Pelosi continues to show her a$$. I mean, just look at the photo of her on this little piece. There is simply no difference between the head and the tail...and we know she talks through her a$$. There she blows again. In sum, in the words of that horror of a Speaker of the House to Ho' house Harry, "Go ____ yourself, Nancy." Although, in her case, it's a double whammy...really ---
    who can tell which end is up.

    • Seymour Kleerly

      You sir are a genius. Were you an Ivy Leaguer?

    • Tex

      takes one to know one....

    • Seymour Kleerly

      Forgive me, now I know you're only 10 years old and are actually doing fairly well.

    • tex

      Oh, you are forgiven as are all small children and animals.

  • bowtonoone2

    They remain in power because WE LET THEM!

    • freiheit

      I disagree...They made themselves with the system they fraudulently created...
      Unfornutately, our votes are only on occasion, theirs are daily...
      They legally made themselves the Keepers through a system so corrupt, it's too far in the woods to capture and correct.
      The Sheep will be slaughtered by their hand.
      However, Eventually, they will need to to cut their own hand to keep the fruit they need to sow...

  • palmercva

    They have to tax more so we can afford their pay raises.

  • steve

    When are they going to cut all illegal aliens from all services they are stealing from the American taxpayer! Cut illegals off we do not need to be txed more!

    • rivahmitch

      only when we cut their throats.

    • http://www.facebook.com/starrider49 Rat Cole

      amen brother

    • http://twitter.com/MarineSurveyorT CAPT. Philip Topps

      Sooner, the better!

    • http://www.facebook.com/lynn.graham.14 Lynn Graham

      in the old days....they hung them in trees for all to see.....might be something for us to learn there.....

    • Big K

      Steve, If the budget was as tight as Nancy Pelosi's face we'd be ok. Yet, there isn't enough botox to tighten up the budget cause it's all in her face.

    • http://twitter.com/MarineSurveyorT CAPT. Philip Topps

      They never will. Those are their illegal voter block.

    • http://www.facebook.com/don.holland.9400 Don Holland

      Now Steve, surely you are smart enough to know that isn't going to happen. Obama is going to give all illegals amnesty and a path to citizenship. That act alone will insure that the US becomes a one political party country just like all the other communist countries.

    • real talk 1

      Man you hit the nail on the head thats exactly what they have in mind

    • kysteelgirl

      We have defeated 7 amnesties....we can defeat this one too with all of us calling & writing....we may even have to march in the streets, like the illegals do.
      http://www.numbersusa.com

    • http://www.facebook.com/lynn.graham.14 Lynn Graham

      we need to tread lightly on the marching in the streets....when the fuse is lit, it will be too easy to take out large numbers of us.....subterfuge is key....lay low, and plan to take our country back

    • real talk 1

      We as American tax payers have been compromised national security sold us out for the liberal votes and the plan is to make it so solid that we can't ever recover,As we become the first third world country.

    • kysteelgirl
  • Raymond

    Theft by Government
    With the arrival of the twentieth century the American people have been introduced to a new way of theft – theft by government. Make no mistake, governments have always existed on the backs of the people they govern, our government is no different. Governments do not create wealth, they do not produce anything, and at a minimum can be a nuisance and at worse a tyrannical nightmare.

    • good160

      and thay have guns to back it up we wont.

    • Ruggedlark

      Can you say "tyranny"?

    • catman

      I once had a bumper sticker that said "Don't steal, the government hates competition".
      Wish I could find another one.

    • real talk

      Make it two

    • Raymond

      You can have those made up.

    • Enough's Enough

      “We’ve talked about tax simplification and fairness as something that we should be engaged in all along,” Pelosi spouted. Whenever Nancy Pelosi or any other Congressional Democrat uses the word "fair" or "fairness," an electrical shock should be delivered up through his/her chair! Government theft is seen as "fairness" by those ignoramuses!

  • Raymond

    Obama's Psalm

    "Obama is my shepherd, I shall be in want. He leadeth me beside the still factories, He maketh me to lie down on park benches, He restoreth my doubts about the Democrat party, He guideth me onto the paths of unemployment for the party's sake. I do fear the evildoers, for thou talkst about them constantly. Thy tax cuts for the rich and thy deficit spending They do discomfort me. Thou anointeth me with never-ending debt, And my savings and assets shall soon be gone. Surely poverty and hard living shall follow me, And my jobless children shall dwell in my basement forever."

    • 4evrMoi

      Love your wit, and intelligence, and how well you express your thoughts, Raymond; you really SHOULD be writing for someone who can use your gift of expression and hopefully, pay you well for your abilities! =)

    • Raymond

      I've had a number of offers to write.

    • real talk

      Damned Ray you put that very well The smart harvard grad couldn't say it any better thanks Ray.

    • Raymond

      :-)

  • Raymond

    Let me get this straight. We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't
    understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a president who
    also smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief
    who didn't pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general
    who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke.

    What could possibly go wrong?

    • Ruggedlark

      Now Ray. THIS is exactly the kind of post I enjoy reading.

      Well thought and well said. Thank You!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PBOWBWL2EGHAQ3EV2QO7RHROE4 LT Tyler Durden

      While it is a good post Ray should have citied the source he got it from. Yes, this did NOT come from Ray. Here is where he took it from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdnY8r7_fLw

    • Ruggedlark

      Thanks for correcting the plagiarism.

      She spoke well, my thoughts.

      I kinda don't read much of Ray's posts much, he is long winded. Not succinct enough for me.

      Thanks for your service, LT.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7GG55SY7T7TQEOXVTIWB5DTIS4 lun

      You need to run for office

    • Big K

      Lets not forget our legislators that vote on bills without reading them!! Like Nancy Pelosi said "vote on it then you can read it" She sounds like an ignorant pie hole but people still listen to her and follow her lead. I just don't get it.

    • real talk

      Its because they are ignorant like the pie hole.

    • Seymour Kleerly

      Didn't Obama quit smoking? I heard that John Boehner chain smokes. Is it true?

    • 4evrMoi

      Never have seen Speaker Boehner smoke, but I'll bet if obummer thought his cigs were being laced, he'd quit immediately! ; )

    • Vickie

      What an idea! Is it Marlboro?

    • oldcoyote

      Where can one get synide or whatever it is?

    • Seymour Kleerly

      I doubt you'll see any politicion smoke. They hide it. Didn't get the lacing comment?

    • real talk

      he strikes me as a very nervous man.

    • FED UP

      Memo to Seymour, Not to worry about obummer&Boehner smoking they both are not on obummer care.

    • WABOBS

      Doctors should make a pact that ALL will fall under the NEW plan. ALL!

    • Wayne Lunkwitz

      Raymond,were it not for the fact that none of this is "funny" perse'...I would think that the way you said that would be enough if a comic had said it on any of the late night shows...they would not need an extra laugh track....as a matter of fact they would have to hose the audience with cold water to get them to stop laughing so they could continue the show..Very well put Thank you!

    • justthefacts

      There was a women addressing the subject of healthcare a few years ago, I believe she was a Dr. and it was on You Tube. These were her words. It was nice of Raymond to remind us of it.

    • DocJimmy

      What could go wrong, you ask. Well Ray, you know the answer - Damn near everything...

    • http://www.facebook.com/pizzed.off Pizzed Off

      It already has, On Election day 2008, with redux happening last Nov. One almost wishes that the End of the World actually took place in Washington.
      But then, it did, didn't it?

    • BigC

      Yep; but it really pains me to think...........the 2nd term hasn't even started yet!!!!!! I'm afraid this Country will not be recognizable in 4 years....SAD!

    • Don

      Our country has been taken over by vagabonds and thieves masquerading as our representative using only words to deceive us. We are ruled by a group of people who truly believe our money is theirs and we should be very appreciative the fact they let us keep enough money to pay taxes and work another day so we can pay more taxes. It is sad that we have betrayed our ancestors, many of whom died so that we may live in freedom, by permitting people, many who were not born in this country, to govern and rape us of our most sacred treasure, OUR FREEDOM.

    • Fred_K

      And has exempted only the muslims as a religious group.

    • oldcoyote

      It's gotta work. The Dummycraps wouldn't shove it through if it didn't, would they??wink....

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1137752098 Joan Vanderbush

      You got that just right!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/2BZHO5ROO7QRRX6CJJJEBUBQPY Tim

      The Democrats platform of 2016.

    • Raymond

      :-)

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PBOWBWL2EGHAQ3EV2QO7RHROE4 LT Tyler Durden

      You sir should give credit where credit is due. Here is where this really came from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdnY8r7_fLw

    • Larry

      why do you not find something impt to do..... who gives a damn

    • Lee Baldwin

      Well, Raymond, if two of us quite working, they will be completely unbalanced, and we will have economic collapse. ~God Bless America!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003457282985 Mike Slaney

      A..MEN!

  • Raymond

    IRS -

    The local bar was so sure that its bartender was the strongest man around that they offered a standing $1,000 bet:
    The bartender would squeeze a lemon until all the juice ran into
    a glass, and hand the lemon to a patron. Anyone who could squeeze
    one more drop of juice out would win the money.

    Many people had tried over time (weightlifters, longshoremen, etc.), but nobody could do it. One day this scrawny little man came in,
    wearing thick glasses and a polyester suit, and said in a tiny,
    squeaky voice, "I'd like to try the bet."

    After the laughter had died down, the bartender said "okay," grabbed a lemon, and squeezed away. Then he handed the wrinkled remains of the rind to the little man. But the crowd's laughter turned to total silence as the man clenched his fist around the lemon and six drops fell into the glass.

    As the crowd cheered, the bartender payed the $1,000,
    and asked the little man, "What do you do for a living?
    Are you a lumberjack, a weightlifter, or what?"
    The man replied, "I work for the IRS."

    • freiheit

      HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
      Former Bartender My Friend!!!
      Our Local VFW is Gonna Love This!!!
      Thank You For Your Services,
      Thank You For Your Sense Of Humor!!!

    • Raymond

      :-) :-)

  • Raymond

    Does the muslim brotherhood control the Oval Office?
    The evidence clearly indicates they do..................

    http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/01/07/obamas-hard-on-israel-soft-on-terrorism-trifecta-is-complete/

    • Tex

      Absolutely, Marine. There are at least 6 members of his "brotherhood" on the payroll and high up in his filthy administration. BTW, did you see how the musslemen celebrate the new year in France? Car roasting...

    • Vickie

      Does Valerie Jarrett come to mind?

    • Raymond

      Valerie Jarrett is a muslim.

    • Vickie

      An Iranian muslim.....so is Iran calling the shots in our country?

    • Raymond

      I saw, that's what muslims do best.

    • RonMar

      Thanks for the link.
      Of course Islamic jihadists control the WH, Obama, and they are well positioned in the US to start making Israel's longtime troubles look like a kindergarten playground. Please remember to Islamic jihadists the US is the Great Satan, Israel is the Little Satan.
      Islamic jihadists are well positioned here already and have been for some years. There are an estimated 7-10 million Muslims in the U.S. of the world’s 1.9 billion claimed by Islamic leaders. That is up from 5 million estimated 10 years ago. I believe the 7-10 million is a low-ball figure. No one knows for sure because our Census laws do not allow us to ask about religious affiliation.
      All Muslims say the same Shahadah - confession of faith - There is no God but Allah. Muhammad is Allah's prophet. That sets the stage for taking over the world for Allah, the establishment of a worldwide caliphate with Shar'ia Law.
      Islamists have sworn to convert all infidels - unbelievers in Islam, subjugate those who will not convert in dhimmi under Shar'ia law, or at the whim of some Islamist eliminate anyone they choose, starting with those who have left Islam, Jews and Christians. Among the first to go may be those who least expect it, because Muslims do not like any unbelievers in Allah or God, the faithless much, and they hate smart-mouthed punks who are really, really stupid.
      Obama has said there are 2000 mosques, Islamic societies and such in the U.S. now, up from 1200 10 years ago. Obama should know due to the strong influences on him by Islamists and Marxists, his installing Islamist and Marxist operatives in his oppressive, tyrannical, despotic, evil regime, and hosting hundreds of Islamist visitors at the White House for consultations with him.
      The Islamists include Valerie Jarrett - Obama’s closest advisor, born in Iran - and SecState Clinton’s advisor Huma Abedin with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.
      Anyone capable can search online and get maps of the locations of: 1) the mosques, etc., 2) Islamic jihad terrorist fundraising sites, and 3) Islamic jihad terrorist training sites in the U.S. The mosques, etc. and fundraising sites maps are near mirror images. The training sites are under Jamaat al-Fuqra.
      A specific purpose of Jamaat al-Fuqra is to recruit and train domestic terrorists in the US. Two Pakistani brothers arrested in Ft. Lauderdale, FL, a few weeks ago may well have been trained by Jamaat al-Fuqra. Naturalized US citizens, they were planning terrorist attacks in the US with WMDs according to the FBI.
      Obama is the greatest threat to the US and all Americans, much of the world since WWII with his oppressive, tyrannical, despotic and evil regime.
      Barack Hussein Barry Obama Soetoro Davis was raised in his "formative years" as he calls them, by Islamists and Marxists. They include his namesake, the Kenyan Marxist, Muslim alcoholic and bigamist, Barack Hussein Obama, also Lolo Soetoro - an Indonesian Muslim - and Frank Marshal Davis, a Marxist, porn writer and photographer, bi-pedophile, heavy alcohol and illegal drug user, who mentored little Barack Hussein Barry in Hawaii.
      Obama has spent his lifetime with Marxists and Islamists since his earliest days. He shows no signs of overcoming his association with Islamists and Marxists. He is acting now under their influences in everything that he thinks and does, dragging the USA and all Americans with the help of Islamists and Marxists toward the Marxist Islamic Republic of Obama.

    • 4evrMoi

      What blows my mind - those idiots who voted for this monster and the "politicians" working with him, supporting him, and "playing his game/their game of politics"apparently don't "think" about any of this and I guess, they don't belive any of it to be reality. But then, they've lost sight of the Constitution and what it represents to America FORGETTING that BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CONSTITUTION, is the "WHY" America is (was) America and the "REASON" THESE BUMS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROSPER! It's TIME to put an end to their daydreams and give them a hefty dose of REALITY - REAL AMERICANS WHO WILL STAND FOR THEIR LIBERTY AND INDEPENDENCE FOR PROTECTING OUR FREEDOMS and SHOW THESE MORONS THAT THE CONSTITUTION IS STILL THE BACKBONE OF AMERICA AND WILL NEVER BE OUTDATED!!!

    • RonMar

      So true. The first American Revolution started with a small group of American patriots protesting by peaceful means an oppressive, tyrannical, despotic, evil regime. That regime was headed by the King of England. When the King inherited the crown, he inherited near absolute power. England’s American colonies were by then about 165 years old. Americans had been given the right to self rule, but that was only in cases where self rule did not go against the King’s dictates. Until the revolution most Americans were proud of their new world, and loyal to the King and the English government. Yet the colonialists could not vote for the British Parliament –so they had no representation in the government of the country that governed them.
      The people of America even then were of mixed races. Some people came from Asia centuries earlier. These peoples are called Native Americans. They strongly supported the British. Prior to the revolution, immigrants to America came here from many countries, but mostly from the British Isles. In the years since the Revolution began in 1776, immigrants arrived from most all the world’s countries. They came seeking religious freedom and freedom of equal opportunity regardless of birthright, station in life, customs, culture and original languages.
      All told they were seeking freedom from the oppression of tyranny. Millions came from countries led by despotic, evil people with armies of protectors and enforcers of and for the dictators.
      The earliest and most focused protest was against taxation without representation. That deteriorated into a massacre of essentially unarmed citizens by British soldiers. The resisters and protestors involved included people of different customs, cultures, languages faith beliefs, and ethnicities - national origins, backgrounds and skin colors - white, red, black and others. They had come together in common cause - freedom.
      After trying completely peaceful appeals to the King and his agents, resistance, then essentially unarmed protest and some being murdered in a massacre, the patriots started waging armed resistance.
      The earliest armed resistance was by guerrilla-style aka Indian warfare methods - lay low, blend in, gather, move out and strike, then fade into the population again by laying low and blending in until the time necessary or when able to gather and strike again.
      The patriots had arms, ammunition, other equipment, supplies, transportation, logistics, organization - all the essentials of waging successful resistance – but far inferior to the might of the King‘s forces.
      A minority of the British Parliament agreed that the treatment of the colonies was unjust. Not all in America agreed with the patriots. Many turned against them. They were called Tories. Much of the Revolutionary battles were fought between the Tories and the Patriots.
      The King hired mercenaries - Hessian German soldiers - to fight against the patriots. General George Washington defeated the Hessians at the Battle of Trenton. Many of the Hessians deserted and joined the patriots.
      At Yorktown, when the patriots entered their darkest hour, France came to their rescue. French sailors and soldiers, helped in some small degree by the Patriot unit involved in the battle, crushed the British. The French insisted that Patriot General George Washington accept the surrender of the British.
      The patriots got discouraged, of course, often, but they kept resisting. They lost many battles, souls, much land, homes, farms and other resources but they kept resisting. They grew stronger in numbers, better organized, better equipped and in the end after a bloody war they won.
      They formed the United States of America with a Declaration of Independence and a Constitution with a following body of laws based on Judeo-Christian religious principles.
      With some relatively minor disruptions over time peace prevailed, and the USA grew into a great, strong and further developing nation making great strides in progress.
      Then the USA made a huge, tragic, evil and really unnecessary mistake. We took in as slaves people enslaved by their own and shipped from Africa and other lands to the US by slave traders on slave ships. That was an abomination unacceptable to God. The people brought here against their wills did not share in the Great American Dream and were not allowed at first to be a part of it.
      For other reasons like State’s Rights first and slavery too the USA sank into a time of division, essentially the north set against the south. The most uncivil so-called Civil War ensued. That War cost the USA more in blood, treasure and anything else of value than all other wars combined in which the US has been involved before or since.
      The USA has tried to correct that mistake, but far too many Black people, African-Americans, old or New Black Panthers or whatever names they want to use and be used for them in the US today have refused to use the corrections properly or even to accept them in some few cases. They want more, more and more.
      So today in the USA we have a pretend president who has never shared in the Great American Dream but taken full advantage of living in the USA as an affirmative action “success.” his purported spouse too.
      He was raised, according to him, during his formative years, claimed to be the son of a Marxist, Islamist Kenyan alcoholic in Hawaii, then by a Muslim in Indonesia until his momma shipped him back to Hawaii to be raised by his white grandparents - the grandfather investigated for subversive Communist activities while in Recreational Services in the US Army during WWII and afterwards.
      Marxist, porn writer and photographer, alcohol and illicit drugs-using, bi-pedophile Frank Marshal Davis and Barack Hussein Obama Barry Soetoro’s grandfather and family were associates in Kansas. Magically, at some point both the Davis and Dunham families showed up in Hawaii and continued their relationships there.
      A rebellious, disgruntled and unhappy, teenaged student, Stanley Ann Dunham, became close with Davis. Among other things she admired his appreciation for jazz music. She skipped school to visit with him in his home, sometimes with his spouse, an adult woman and others in their circle of comrades.
      Unfortunately she was impregnated as an unwed teenager by some Black man. She chose not to abort the baby. She got the Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama, a visiting student in America, to marry her; thus Obama’s first, middle and last names that he has used at various times in his life. Stanley Ann wanted Davis to mentor her son after the Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama had abandoned them, she had married Lolo Soetoro, moved with little Barack to Indonesia, then shipped little Barack Hussein Obama Barry Soetoro back to Hawaii.
      Davis mentored the boy while the boy’s well-off, white grandparents worked, and he went to and skipped school, including at one of the top schools in Hawaii.
      I suppose everyone who cares to know does know the rest of the story. If not I refer you to Dreams From My Father, The Audacity of Hope, and the transcripts and recordings of speeches, public appearances and writings of Obama and others about Obama.
      It is quite an interesting story in the non-fiction and fiction genres of a sordid past and present. Is it time now for another American Revolution by America’s true Patriots? Their situation was no different than our situation today. Only the names and faces of the people involved, the groups and the armies have changed.
      Rvolution or not, it seems about ready to come to a rather quick, bad end for some if not all of the characters involved nation- and worldwide.
      Enjoy. Peace, blessings and love, ron

    • mallen11

      Thanks for your comment. I am copying it to my history file.

    • RonMar

      You're welcome. I did it from memory and got a history grad to review it for me. The picture is clear to me. I am praying and hoping others catch on before it's too late.

    • http://www.facebook.com/lynn.graham.14 Lynn Graham

      that was awesome....historically correct. and inspiring....I too wish nothing but the best for our country, but fear the worst.....HELL is coming to our shores (if it's not here already), and I pray for the patriots among us.....remember the old saying, KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY?????

    • RonMar

      Thank you. Yes, I remember the saying and put it into practice.

    • Larry

      they are LOW INFORMATION voters

    • Raymond

      Those who fight against Israel have to fight against God

      and we all know how that will turn out. I once had a homosexual

      tell me that he & his homosexual friends were going to find a way

      to remove God from power. When I responded the website kicked

      me off. The website is CSNEWS.

    • RonMar

      Thanks again, Marine. Let's hang tough. We will win eventually. Good always prevails over evil, but sometimes the road to victory is rough.

    • http://www.facebook.com/paul.torsiello Paul Torsiello

      So If we have a terrorist there there's one solution....call in the Seals and eliminate the problem.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Bauer/100000780337244 Wayne Bauer

      Better hurry over half seal team six has been murdered. Coincidence , isn't it???

  • fliteking

    Article "Democrat Leaders: We Aren’t Done Taxing Americans"

    The Democrats are no longer taxing current American's, they are taxing FUTURE Americans at this point.

    Liberals really do hate their children and grandchildren. The words Greedy and Selfish don't even start to capture the evil in these people.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shorty-Stuff/100002035641339 Shorty Stuff

      These dumbass liberals think they are getting a free lunch by taxing corporations more. They're not smart enough to realize it is them that is going to get hit with higher prices to pay for their products. Corporations just pass their expenses (taxes included) through to the buyers. The prices of everything will just go up ... you can't fix stupid.

    • shannon853

      the dumber things liberals think is allowing our industry to re locate in other countries helps unemployment here. it is clear they are too brain dead to understand with our industry went jobs, taxes and income that is no longer benifiting america. people out of work her do not have income to pay taxes on creating even more on welfare and food stamps. .

    • http://www.facebook.com/don.holland.9400 Don Holland

      You and shorty stuff have made me realize that after the revolution we will have to deal with the democrats the same way our forefathers dealt with the loyalists. Study revolutionary history and see what I mean.

    • good160

      what i have ben saying all along.but some just cant grasp it.

    • real talk

      Some just don't want to they like the free gifts and other peoples money.

    • http://twitter.com/MarineSurveyorT CAPT. Philip Topps

      Unfortunately, the terminally-stupid drag us down with them. I'm 66, and semi-retired, but I can say without reservation that my little enterprise will have the worst year ever (on paper). Cash is king. I will keep whatever I EARN.
      The good thing about most liberals, is that, asa totally government-dependent class, they have little initiative to build a business of their own, so let them get their asses taxed off. I, for one, have paid MORE than my fair share. I'm DONE subsidizing a bunch of lazy, corrupt pols, and their miserable, parasitic sloth followers.

    • kysteelgirl

      don't forget the millions of illegal aliens & their gazillion anchor babies we are supporting
      numbersusa.com

    • chief1937

      The rescent Cliff deal comes to mind only taxing those who make over $400,000.00.How did that work for you? I know fot sure everyone drawing a pay check got an additional 2% deduction in their pay it may not have been a tax rase but you drew less money anyway and it doesn;t matter that you only make $40,000.00 guess I don't understand modern language as spoken by our government.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Bauer/100000780337244 Wayne Bauer

      When we decide to punish LIARS we might change things. There are LIES by omission and LIES by commission, does it matter, LIES are LIES, the real truth of government propaganda

    • ginger

      The "top" Dems hate all but themselves...period. And they want complete control of all of us...they think they are the "elite".

    • real talk

      Know doubt and the republican party is helping them feel that way , the conservatives are a scary bunch just say racist and they run for cover, I Really hate that I switched to the republican side ten years ago, but I had no Idea they where ball less,so now I will try independent, so pray for me .

    • ginger

      Same here..time for a true American Party.

  • retiredmillwright

    Socialists never saw a tax on the citizens they didn't like. The problem is a SPENDING problem. They are spending like a juvenile delinquent with a stolen credit card. No matter how much taxes they take in, it will never be enough. they a going into the hole by the trillions. Right now more than four out of every ten dollars they spend is borrowed . Their future plans are to spend even more and tax and borrow more but always going steadily into the hole by the trillions.

    • chief1937

      But did you not hear the president stated to Boehner "we do not have a spending problem"? It truly must be our imagination.I just reasd that statement this week.