Obama Begins Building Cap And Trade Deal Amidst Fiscal Cliff Talks


As if we aren't hearing enough about the entire fiscal cliff fiasco taking place in Washington and about to crash around our ears here on the home front, Barack Obama is looking to a new Cap and Trade deal that will become the building blocks of a fraudulent "climate change treaty."

Newsmax reports,

State Department envoy Todd Stern is in Doha this week working to clear the path for an international agreement by 2015. While Obama failed to deliver on his promise to start a cap-and-trade program in his first term, he’s working on policies that may help cut greenhouse gases 17 percent in 2020 in the U.S., historically the world’s biggest polluter.

Obama has moved forward with greenhouse-gas rules for vehicles and new power plants, appliance standards and investment in low-emitting energy sources. He’s also called for 80 percent of U.S. electricity to come from clean energy sources, including nuclear and natural gas, by 2035.

“The president is laying the foundations for real action on climate change,” Jake Schmidt, who follows international climate policy for the Washington-based Natural Resources Defense Council, said in an interview in Doha. “Whether or not he decides to jump feet first into the international arena, we’ll see.”

Envoys from more than 190 nations are entering their second week of talks today at the United Nations conference working toward a global warming treaty. Their ambition is to agree to a pact in 2015 that would take force in 2020. It would supersede limits on emissions for industrial nations under the Kyoto Protocol, which the U.S. never ratified.

So if you are wondering what the left hand is engaged in as the right hand waves about over the magic hat of the fiscal cliff, this is it. Keep in mind that as you remember that according to Obama's energy plan, which would be directly tied to this new Cap and Trade agreement would, energy "prices would necessarily skyrocket."

Obama's Environmental Protection Agency is required under the Clean Air Act go ahead with new regulations on emissions from existing power plants. The claim is that these are responsible for roughly one-third of U.S. emissions.

Jonathan Pershing, a State Department negotiator in Doha, claims that U.S. emissions are already down from 2005 by 8.8 percent. But the new goal is to reduce emissions

Newsmax also reported, "Envoys from more than 190 nations are entering their second week of talks today at the United Nations conference working toward a global warming treaty. Their ambition is to agree to a pact in 2015 that would take force in 2020. It would supersede limits on emissions for industrial nations under the Kyoto Protocol, which the U.S. never ratified."

There was a reason we didn't ratify it. It wasn't good policy! It was completely targeted against industrialized nations.

Additionally, if the word really gets out about what this new Cap and Trade is being put in place for, the administration will refrain from speaking about costs.

Back in September The Hill reported about Obama's use of executive order and his EPA's interpretation of existing law:

President Obama’s use of executive authority and his Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) interpretation of existing laws might have laid the groundwork for renewed cap-and-trade efforts, political experts said Wednesday.

The courts have approved many of the EPA’s pollution regulations, giving Obama license to propose new rules, former EPA Administrator Carol Browner said during a Politico-hosted panel discussion at the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, N.C.

She explained those court victories have created momentum that might make industry-specific cap-and-trade plans more palatable than the prospect of facing new regulations. Though comprehensive cap-and-trade legislation might be off the table for now, Browner said that dynamic opens opportunities for piecemeal progress on cap-and-trade.

Robert Stavins, director of Harvard University's Environmental Economics Program, said that such policies by the Obama EPA "are just the beginning."

“The interesting thing is that for the past three UN climate conferences, the U.S. delegation has never talked about this,” Stavins said in an interview. “They haven’t been interested in taking credit internationally for what’s already in place. When I mention this to other parts of the world, people are shocked.”

Stavins said the last thing that Obama wanted to have before the elections was for State Department officials making it appear as though he was attempting "an end run around the Congress" on climate policy. “It would have been very bad for the president’s re- election,” he said.

Of course it would have been. Now we will be facing the full brunt of nonsensical socialist policies by this administration, including climate policies based on known scientific fraud.

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  • Wolf-Talker-1

    Amerika needs cap and Trade R I G H T!

  • http://twitter.com/DGuardian2 D. Guardian

    The man is trying to perpetrate a fraud, so whats new? The Kenyan perpetrated the greatest fraud of all and got him elected president, with the help oft the unamerican republicans, of course. Democratic/Republican party....one party pretending to be two since 1888. That's another fraud. Right in front of our eyes. The info is out there, check it.

  • J J

    Absolutely nothing good will come of this for America!! I don't know where I will come up with the extra money to pay for the energy prices that WILL skyrocket because of this legislation. Obama is showing, once again, that he is NOT a economicists and he doesn't care where he takes this country - this legislation will help to take America down the tubes!!!

    People who voted for Obama either didn't understand or didn't listen to what Obama was promising he would do.

  • 44rd11

    This is just too funny - Obama SAID he was going to do this - enjoy the "skyrocketing" energy prices - gas and electricity.

  • samtman

    70 degrees in Chicago o Dec. 3, normal temp in Chicago this time of the year is 28 degrees, its high time for cap and trade now, Science is the answer,

    • Dasrge

      God your an idiot! How in the world do you explain the record high temperature in ALASKA of 100 degrees in (pause to let that part sink through your thick skull) 1915!!!!!! Or how about the record high of 118 degrees in 1934 in IDAHO. Or the record high of 118 degrees in COLORADO just beyond the foothills of the Rocky Mountains in 1888!! Your own city temperature data shows that during the month of December during the early 1890's your average temperature ranged in the mid 60's to low 70's. Do a little personal research before you buy into lies!

    • 44rd11

      God forbid that you blame "mother nature" or God - or just our little blue marble spinning through space around a star we call the sun. It is my fondest hope that these "greenies" live to see an ICE AGE - like the one that carved out the Great Lakes.

  • Josephco

    By 2015 we will all be using candles instead of light bulbs, The way Obama is doing this green thing is turning this country back 200 years.

    • 44rd11

      better stock up on candles then - because they are going to be outlawed next - burning that wax creates carbon.

  • RetiredBrit

    I used to be British but came to the USA to get away from the Takers and the infiltration of their free for all "fairness" attitudes. Imagine my surprise to find that the same evil left wing zealots have infiltrated the USA over the last few years under the disguise of "progressives" I am also very surprised that the American people are actually in favor of these groups, actually electing them into positions of power. It is time that the USA looked at the destruction that has befallen Europe under the "progressive" jackboot and reversed the trend as a matter of urgency. Cap and Trade , in other words more taxes, is just another method for the takers to steal from the makers. It is time that the GOP grew some spine.

  • reggiec

    If “Cap and Trade” regulations are put in place, the trade portion of the program will establish a carbon trading exchange. This is where a company that exceeds their cap by emitting too much CO2 can buy carbon credits from another company that is under its allotment for carbon emissions. Guess who makes a lot of money (estimated at billions) in the process? Investment banks and trading houses tapped by the government to handle the trades will be the winners. I will bet that contributions to election campaigns will be taken into account when and if the trading houses are selected. If the government decides to accomplish the trading within a government agency, it will open the door to all kinds of pay to play, corporate cronyism and corruption.
    This is basically a effort to control the use of energy. By controlling the use of energy politicians can control any means of production and even the individual existence of people themselves. The excuse they are using is probably the biggest haox that has ever been attempted.
    ***
    In many cases that is exactly what they are promoting, a story, as in a work of fiction.
    It seems that their so called consensus does not hold true with the majority of weathermen. A 2010 George Mason University surveys found that; “63% of television weathermen think that global warming is a product of natural causes, while 31% believe it is from human activity.”
    Recently a Nobel recipient for Physics resigned from the American Physical Society (APS) over their stance on manmade global warming as reported on Fox News.
    Dr. Ivar Giaever, a former professor with Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and the 1973 winner of the Nobel Prize in physics, abruptly announced his resignation Tuesday, Sept. 13, from the premier physics society in disgust over its officially stated policy that "global warming is occurring."
    The official position of the American Physical Society (APS) supports the theory that man's actions have inexorably led to the warming of the planet, through increased emissions of carbon dioxide.
    Giaever does not agree -- and put it bluntly and succinctly in the subject line of his email, reprinted at Climate Depot, a website devoted to debunking the theory of man-made climate change.
    "I resign from APS," Giaever wrote.
    Giaever was cooled to the statement on warming theory by a line claiming that "the evidence is incontrovertible."
    Emeritus Professor Harold Lewis, now deceased, who was an APS member and physics professor at UC Santa Barbara, also resigned from APS. He Described AGW as:
    “the greatest and most successful pseudo-scientific fraud I have seen in my life as a physicist.”

    • 44rd11

      Who makes the money - Al Gore and company

  • DJANGOBACKINCHAINS

    ZIONIST TROJAN HORSE-MUTT-PUPPET, DEMON SEED, HALF-BREED MISCREANT, VERMINOUS TOY OF THE BOLSHEVIK ZIONISTS NOW POSING AS AN AMERICAN POLITICAL PARTY AFTER GUTTING THE REAL ONE AND DONNING IT'S SKIN, THIS POINTLESS IGNORANT MONKEY IS MERE WINDOW DRESSING TO MAKE US ALL 'GO AFTER BLACKS' RATHER THAN THE JEWS BEHIND ALL THIS COMMUNISM WORLDWIDE. KARL MARX WAS A JEW. TROTSKY WAS REALLY LEV BRONSTEIN-(BIRTH NAME, JEW), ANYONE NOTICE WHO CONTROLS OUR MONEY-(FEDERAL RESERVE BANK-JEWISH FOUNDED AND STILL OWNED), OUR MEDIA-(NOT A 'MYTH' WHEN THEY OPENLY BRAG ABOUT CONTROLLING IT-SEE ZUCKER JUST NAMED HEAD OF YET ANOTHER MAJOR U.S. NETWORK), OR THE FACT THAT SOROS-(JEW) AND HIS QUANTUM GANGSTER OPERATION SUNK TENS OF MILLIONS INTO THE STOLEN ELECTION THIS PUPPET OF THEIRS ALLEGEDLY WON-(THOUGH STILL NOT ELIGIBLE TO HOLD THE OFFICE). IT'S HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF IN THE MOST CANCEROUS FORM IT CAN TAKE- INBRED TALMUDIC DOCTRINE MASKED FALSELY BEHIND A MORAL ARGUMENT FOR WORKERS, OR,- COMMUNISM AS IT IS CALLED WHICH IS MERELY A MEANS OF HERDING THE BULK OF HUMANITY INTO SLAVERY UNDER A PROLETARIAT OF EVER SHRINKING SIZE AND EVER INCREASING POWER MADE UP PREDOMINANTLY OF JEWS AS IT WAS IN RUSSIA UNDER JEWISH BOLSHEVISM. UNMASKED THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN HERTZELLIAN TALMUDIC DOCTRINE OR-JEWS ARE DESTINED TO CONTROL THE WORLDS WEALTH AND PEOPLE'S BEFORE THIER MESSIAH-(YAHWEH) RETURNS AS IS IN THEIR TALMUD. THE MEANS BY WHICH THEY ACCOMPLISH THIS INBRED, INSANE, AND UN-ACHIEVABLE DAYDREAM GOAL IS THE CAUSING OF WAR, MURDER, UNREST, RACIAL AGITATION-(BIG TIME), FINANCIAL MIS-APPROPRIATION AND THE DERISION OF ALL THINGS HELD SACRED BY THE PEOPLE'S BEING TARGETED BY THIS VERMINOUS FILTH. HAD ANY OF THEM MET THE FATE THEY SO READILY SELL WITH LIES CONCERNING WWii, THE WORLD WOULD ACTUALLY BE A BETTER PLACE. CAP AND TRADE IS A JEWISH LIE MADE UP TO ENSLAVE THE ENTIRE WORLDS PEOPLE UNDER AN EVER INCREASING TAX PLAN THAT WILL ONLY SERVE TO FURTHER SINK THE WORLD INTO THIS NIGHTMARE OF INBRED DELUSION UNTIL WE ALL SIMPLY TAMP THESE PUKE VERMIN DOWN AND PUT A LEASH ON THEM AS IS NEEDED AND PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN OVER HISTORY. NEVER MIND THIS PUNK HALF BREED MUTT AND HIS POSITIVELY APE-ESQUE MATE-THEY'SD MAKE JANE GOODALL PROUD. ALWAYS LOOK TO SEE WHO'S HAND IS UP THIS MONKEY'S BACKSIDE AND YOU'LL FIND A ZIONIST EVERY TIME-BE IT RAHM EMMANUEL OR CASS SUNSTEIN-(BOTH OF WHOM STILL ADVISE IT CLOSELY), OR LARRY SUMMERS, BERNANKE, GEITHNER OR ONE OF THE OTHER "ZIONIST HOODLUMS" WE NEED TO HANG OUT TO DRY-LITERALLY. WAKE-UP AMERICA THIS IS HOW ROME FELL-THEY BROUGHT JEW SLAVES BACK WITH THEM.

  • regulus30

    I actually think there is a cap in da head movement building in America..........

    • DWinch

      Now days there's a shot to cure just about everything.

    • regulus30

      I like it..........

  • retiredmillwright

    The socialist Obama is repaying the green people for helping
    keep him keep office. He will use the lies
    of the green people to help harm America. The cost of energy for the common
    working people will skyrocket, the coal industry will die, but Obama doesn’t
    care. He is tearing down the old nation of freedom and replacing it with a
    socialist nation of lies and debt. In his mind we are peasants to be changed
    into his dreams of a socialist utopia. The American dream and the constitution
    are but minor inconveniences to be brushed aside by his socialist hand and his
    army of useful idiots. Time is growing short for the America we know, the cupboard
    grows bare and the rats (socialists) are coming up the gutter. Prepare for bad
    government and lean times.

    • gmarshall

      Go see the movie "Atlas Shrugged 2". It will enlighten you further.

    • 44rd11

      He is repaying nothing - Go back to before he was elected President the first time - he said that energy prices would necessarily skyrocket - what don't you get that he will do anything that will prevent the creation of jobs. The Canada oil pipeline - destruction of the coal industry (except to send it to China so they can continue to manufacture the crappy goods sold to Americans).