Indefinite Military Detention Of US Citizens To Be Signed Into Law By Obama


We've been trying to keep you aware of what has been taking place with the talks concerning the 2013 version of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). We've covered the Feinstein amendment, which effectively did nothing, except to empower Congress to authorize the military at their whim to violate people's 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendment rights. But now the talks are all done and the legislation is headed for Barack Obama's desk to be signed into law soon, just as it was nearly one year ago today, including provision to use the military to indefinitely detain US citizens.

Previously, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) voted for the Feinstein amendment to the NDAA. But then there came the hashing out of language in the bill and Paul blasted Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for stripping away the amendment.

“We had protection in this bill. We passed an amendment that specifically said if you were an American citizen or here legally in the country, you would get a trial by jury,” Paul said. “It’s been removed because they want the ability to hold American citizens without trial in our country. This is so fundamentally wrong and goes against everything we stand for as a country that it can’t go unnoticed.”

The problem with Paul's assertion is that there was no protection for anyone, whether they are a citizen of the US, a permanent resident or a visitor. Rights that are supposed to be protected under the Constitution be damned! Neither the NDAA, nor the amendment proposed protected one person who is on American Soil.

Paul called the NDAA an "abomination." It is that, but so was the Feinstein amendment and even more so because it was deceptive at its core.

The Senate easily passed NDAA 2013 by a vote of 81-14. The next stop is Obama's desk.

UPDATE: People are asking when the House passed NDAA for fiscal year 2013. The links have been provided. This one comes from the one at the end of the article, "Obama's desk." Here's the screenshot. They passed it first in May and then the final passage took place one day before the Senate passed it; December 20.

status ndaa

UPDATE: Additionally some have asked for the language in the bill. Here is section 1033, which I provided a link to in the article. You can also read my comments and others on the article I wrote concerning this amendment and how it uses language to appear that it does not give authority to indefinitely detain citizens, while at the same time it gives power to Congress authorizes it. Congress gave their authorization (unconstitutional as it was) last year in Section 1023 of the 2012 NDAA.

SEC. 1033. PROHIBITION ON THE INDEFINITE DETENTION OF CITIZENS AND LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENTS.

Section 4001 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--

(1) by redesignating subsection (b) as subsection (c); and

(2) by inserting after subsection (a) the following:

‘(b)(1) An authorization to use military force, a declaration of war, or any similar authority shall not authorize the detention without charge or trial of a citizen or lawful permanent resident of the United States apprehended in the United States, unless an Act of Congress expressly authorizes such detention.

In the end Congress voted to remove the Feinstein Amendment.

UPDATE: Ben Swann has just released a video explaining the amendment.

UPDATE: Here's Part Two of Ben Swann's video explaining Section 1029 of the 2013 NDAA.

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  • kenny1801

    Jackson= One of the top Obama boot lickers...a traitor to her country and the American people...

  • George

    BTW, The Republicans voted for this too.. That should tell you something.. they have no intentions on doing the right thing either..

  • Goodforall

    When will the citizens of our Country rise up against this traitor and dictator who now resides in the WH? Our freedoms and rights continue to be stripped away from us daily. America is beginning to look more like Nazi Germany than the once "Land of the free and home of the brave". When will it be enough to say "no more" as we once did against the oppression of England? America is being destroyed from within-that is a certainty. Yet our so called GOP leadership sits by and allows for the Fake in Chief to do whatever he pleases, our Constitution be damned. Sad times for this ounce great nation indeed.

    • kenny1801

      We need a leader in order to do this...

    • redd

      There are no Leaders for a Free America Anymore!! There are only appeasers that will bend to whatever they are faced with to save their own skin!! We have raised a Generation of Atheists, Socialists, and Cowards, and now we're reaping the harvest from it!!

    • Simon Jester

      We need the backing of a large portion of the military.

      Did anyone in the military take their oath seriously?

      It appears not.

    • Recon Marine

      Why do you say that for? The military has taken no action against this country citizens. I believe that most of them will take it seriously when the time comes, if it comes. For those of you who call for violence. Have you ever been in a fire-fight for your life before. I have several times and it is something you will never forget the rest of your life. I'm 66 year young and still take my oath seriously and will still act upon that oath if I need to, but I will exhaust all other peaceful means to get my country back first. War, Revolution or wharever you want to call it will not be pretty. It will not be a John Wayne movie it will be for real.

    • http://www.facebook.com/arley.w.steinhour Arley W Steinhour

      Simon Jester, isn't funny,
      Why would you say that,
      Liberal money??

      We'll find out who Patriots be,
      Most, shooting, or dead behind a tree,

      If you be there, then, welcome aboard,
      But if a name caller, stay with the hoard.

      In the event you want to know, true,
      I served this country for twenty-two.

    • http://www.facebook.com/arley.w.steinhour Arley W Steinhour

      Christian Ministers mostly led, at least at the beginning of Revolution. Perhaps, that is why the thinkers, behind BHO, are so concerned about the Churches?? Keep the Watch folks, and have a favorite 'blade of grass' to be behind, in quick fashion. We may be bringing Bible Prophecy to a full, Rolling Boil.

  • Simon Jester

    Welcome back to the 1930's Soviet Union!!! FORWARD!!

    • Simon Jester

      The end of this country is upon us, and all anyone will do about it is whine on message boards and social media sites.

      Where is the god d@mned military? Aren't they the ones who are supposed to oust dictators? Where are the Joint Chiefs of Staff and why aren't they arresting this traitor and the traitors in The House and Senate???????

      SIGNING THIS BILL IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE!!!!

    • redd

      LOL......All the Military Heads are going to be standing there behind him as he Signs it into Law!!! The Joint Chiefs will be there too!! Looks like we're on our own!!!

    • lilolady

      That is called a military coup. Ready for Martial Law? Which
      of the branches and which General will prevail?

  • canemah

    What can be applied to one, can be applied to any and all. What one administration/party enacts can be used in the future by the other. Excellent reasons for why a huge and all controlling government has been despised by the American people. Where is the vaunted ACLU on this. Since when is it even remotely Constitutional to set aside any of the Bill of Rights simply for convenience. Warrantless wiretaps, indefinite detention without charges. Come on ACLU. Show us you no longer have ties to your communist beginnings your founder intended.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Micheal-Stone-Sr/100003190509303 Micheal Stone Sr.

    Americans must rebel if they care at all about their kids futures, imagine how dictatorial this government will be in thirty years! obammi is a very, very dangerous man, can you say, "genocide"?

  • john90805

    I see a "scorched earth" policy against conservatism and in particular conservative Christians. Like petulent children the liberals have the president's ear alone. This class war that Obama has instituted is burning like a forrest set ablaize all across this once great land. Obama will not be sated until he has complete and utter control over the USA.
    God help us to preserve our way of life and hear our humble cries.

  • MS

    Where is the language in the bill that does this? Please tell us where to find it!

  • Moose853

    LOL! Oh we will vote him out! REALLY! DIDN'T HAPPEN DID IT! Now he's going after our guns, Republicans are siding with the Demoncraps, and to top it off we can now be arrested and permantly detained without a trial. Plus a side bonus if you hadn't figured it out, all of those petetions for a peaceful seccession on the White House website with all those signatures on them. In order to sign those petetions you had to register at the White House website, name address, city, etc. He now has a list of people, where they live and so forth, to arrest and permantly detained. Good going people! What's next on the agenda for this peaceful revolution? A protest in front of the White House maybe?

  • cmjay

    WE , THE PEOPLE have no more RIGHTS - the next step is MARTIAL LAW. I can't believe this is AMERICA. The AMERICAN PEOPLE are NOT going to just roll over and play dead, there will be an uprising.

  • Tallfritz

    It's official. The President of the United States of America is a traitor to the Constitution and the people of the United States of America... He should be impeached for failure to uphold and defend the Constitution of the US and the rights of the people.

    • har82

      He is not the only one who passed all that BS lol. There are about 500 others that need a firing line as well. :)

  • aryton senna

    Eliminate this Narcissist Sociopath Illegal Immigrant Muslim Psychotic Idiot and Her entire ship of GO LOW MO Fools!

  • Adeline

    This right from the Play Book of the Soviet Union. We are now under a
    EVIL DICTATOR"S rule ! God help us !

  • nax777

    Muslims annual legal immigration numbers have increased from
    90,000 to 700,000 in Obama’s first three years. Mass immigration is legal as
    well as illegal. You will have to pay a tax to the peace loving newcomers but this will not mean you can keep your head.

    http://www.numbersusa.com /
    http://www.goooh.com

  • Yoshi

    The left seem to be promoting tyranny and oppression for US citizens. They're being used to help divide and strip away our rights. Ironically they will suffer some surprises when the government turns on them. They voted for free stuff, you get what you pay for.

    • har82

      I don't think a - free room and board - in a FEMA cell ,, is what they had in mind lol. But it's free , and provided by the Federal government :) .

  • http://www.facebook.com/jimmy.miller.1654700 Jimmy Miller

    this country is looking more and more like communist russia! You know darn well russia is still a communist country, pretending to be under a democracy. Russia and obama have had some kind of agenda going on since his first term. Obama is definitely communist, he's trying to destroy everything that make's this a democracy. Killing our freedoms one by one.

  • ecoplastican

    What do we do if our federal government is destructive?

  • ecoplastican

    Let me see if I got this right... the liberals want to shut down GITMO and give the terrorists a trial by peers..., but at the same time, they want to empower the federal government to deny that right to American citizens? Anybody see anything wrong here? This government is destructive.

  • Larry

    The Senate passed with a very large number of republicans. THAT'S RHE CONSERVATIVES. What is wrong with you people. First we got the Patriot Act from W. now We have REPS supporting whomyouncall a Commie. Something gs funny.

  • http://twitter.com/Bobphiladelphia Bob F.

    Before ANYTHING more is passed by this Incompetent, Unqualified, Lying,Anti-American, Kenyan, RAGGG-HEADDD, Loser, we have to find out the TRUTH about his PAST. I do not in any way, shape , or form believe he is an American. He's a MOOSLIM born in Kenya and a citizen of Indonesia which is a breeding ground for MOOSSLLIMMS. This Lying puke HAS a PAST, and it's way past time we found out just who this Lying Weasel is.