Indefinite Military Detention Of US Citizens To Be Signed Into Law By Obama

We've been trying to keep you aware of what has been taking place with the talks concerning the 2013 version of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). We've covered the Feinstein amendment, which effectively did nothing, except to empower Congress to authorize the military at their whim to violate people's 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendment rights. But now the talks are all done and the legislation is headed for Barack Obama's desk to be signed into law soon, just as it was nearly one year ago today, including provision to use the military to indefinitely detain US citizens.

Previously, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) voted for the Feinstein amendment to the NDAA. But then there came the hashing out of language in the bill and Paul blasted Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for stripping away the amendment.

“We had protection in this bill. We passed an amendment that specifically said if you were an American citizen or here legally in the country, you would get a trial by jury,” Paul said. “It’s been removed because they want the ability to hold American citizens without trial in our country. This is so fundamentally wrong and goes against everything we stand for as a country that it can’t go unnoticed.”

The problem with Paul's assertion is that there was no protection for anyone, whether they are a citizen of the US, a permanent resident or a visitor. Rights that are supposed to be protected under the Constitution be damned! Neither the NDAA, nor the amendment proposed protected one person who is on American Soil.

Paul called the NDAA an "abomination." It is that, but so was the Feinstein amendment and even more so because it was deceptive at its core.

The Senate easily passed NDAA 2013 by a vote of 81-14. The next stop is Obama's desk.

UPDATE: People are asking when the House passed NDAA for fiscal year 2013. The links have been provided. This one comes from the one at the end of the article, "Obama's desk." Here's the screenshot. They passed it first in May and then the final passage took place one day before the Senate passed it; December 20.

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UPDATE: Additionally some have asked for the language in the bill. Here is section 1033, which I provided a link to in the article. You can also read my comments and others on the article I wrote concerning this amendment and how it uses language to appear that it does not give authority to indefinitely detain citizens, while at the same time it gives power to Congress authorizes it. Congress gave their authorization (unconstitutional as it was) last year in Section 1023 of the 2012 NDAA.


Section 4001 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--

(1) by redesignating subsection (b) as subsection (c); and

(2) by inserting after subsection (a) the following:

‘(b)(1) An authorization to use military force, a declaration of war, or any similar authority shall not authorize the detention without charge or trial of a citizen or lawful permanent resident of the United States apprehended in the United States, unless an Act of Congress expressly authorizes such detention.

In the end Congress voted to remove the Feinstein Amendment.

UPDATE: Ben Swann has just released a video explaining the amendment.

UPDATE: Here's Part Two of Ben Swann's video explaining Section 1029 of the 2013 NDAA.

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  • raven-1911

    the version posted is dated December 4th - however the GPO version which contains PKI certification from Superintendent of Documents shows a date of 12 December and section 1033 has the Amendment language including: "unless an Act of Congress expressly
    authorizes such detention." Don't you just love the Washington two step - they can't do it unless they authorize themselves to do it and NDAA is an Act of Congress so now I guess they can do it. Not constitutional - it just makes them wrong with a gun.

  • Don

    Obama will be detained very soon for a very long time and if we are lucky Joe the mouth Biden will be with him.

  • RangerInParadise

    Obama and his Leftist allies in the Republican Party have just formally declared WAR on the people of America and few seem to have noticed that.

    There is NOTHING that now stands in the way of filling the FEMA Camps with "dissidents".

    What utter IRONY that the two military bases for the defense of the People closest to my location have now become detention centers for the ELIMINATION of the American People! All in the past 40 years and done by the "Democrat" Party and supported by the mindless, ignorant, mal-educated Liberals who have been steadily brainwashed for those 40 years!

    Read Cloward-Piven and the 45 Goals of Communism and it's like reading a book of events for the past 4 decades. It's ALL right there yet 100 million supposedly intelligent Americans still can't see it.

    WE can say all WE want but God said it best: "My children are destroyed for lack of knowledge". Oh, Brother! Was He right.


      Hosea 4:6 "My people perish for their lack of knowledge" ~ (I use this one all the time!)

    • squeak

      And ?

  • dragonfFIRE01

    did anyone really expect anything diferent? this man has shown over and over again how much he hates this counhtry. now the round up of dissidents will soon begin

  • unclebarry

    The Harry Reid Dept. finally FINALLY DOES SOMETHING in the Senate and it violates the single most important document America stands for. Only in America.

  • Truggy

    To the clowns in this Goverment be carefull for what you wish for as that is a Revolution in about a couple of years ! Not to mention i believe in the Military people here at least that they hate Obama and i think they will obey him on this !

  • JJM123

    But BO promised us that Americans would see their day in court. Then again, I find it impossible to TRUST anyone who will hide all aspects of their past and refuse to answer such simple questions as 'Where's the Real BC?' The only things we know about him is what he wants to tell us and and good indications of WHO and WHAT he is thru his actions.
    So do the lame brained need to wait till many of their friends and associates disappear, never to be heard from again?? When the productive disappear, who will be supplying the redistributable wealth?

  • del

    What a piece of chit from the piece of chit squatting in our white house....any senators voting for crap like this need to be impeached and removed along with the fraud leading them!

  • Pclages

    Brought to you by the GOP establishment, who has proven, twice, that they are even more arrogant and incompetent that the current Administration, which is really saying something.

  • cae973

    explains why we did not vote for either mc cain or obama

  • navas

    you know what this is so much bull crap and how its happening is unconstitutional and we should excuse the phrase and dont take this out of context, but they should exterminate wipe off the face of this earth congress and this fing president!!!

  • Carl Stevenson

    Traitors are as traitors do ...

  • Bill Tyner

    I guess all of us are going to be on the Obamboozler's hit list - run little buddies, run!!!

  • GWY

    I wonder how long it will be before Obama starts filling his FEMA camps and how long after that he will start murdering dissident citizens. I believe I would prefer to die at my door defending my family than be murdered by a communist thug.

  • mallen11

    God is our only hope in this country but We the People need to be putting Him first in our lives according to what the Bible says. Jesus Christ set the precedence on how to live the Christian way of life and those who wrote the Epistles explained it. This is how we are to live...
    II Peter 3:8… but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity.
    Jer 17:5 Thus says the LORD," Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind and makes flesh his strength, and whose heart turns away from the LORD

  • Ranchman

    Maybe this is true, then. I don't know.
    You might want to check it out, it seems to be happening.

  • popham

    Now this might just necessitate our marching on Washington, specifically the
    White House. The NDAA is facism, and we should not stand for it.
    But Congress and the Senate are so impotent and corrupt.
    They will actually let this happen. Then you just wait and see what Obama does.
    Down, down........down we go my fellow Americans.
    There appears to be no stopping this so-called president of our
    once Constitutional nation.
    Good luck, America.

  • CaptTurbo

    They all suck. I suppose the purpose of this NDAA crap is so they can disappear citizens who resist them when they come for the guns. We need to say NADA to NDAA.

  • clay

    People need to get it in their heads that if cops come busting through your door, when you know you've done nothing wrong, they need to be shot . If you wait to fix the "mistake" you'll never be heard from again.

    • Phyllis Prather

      oh yeah,when did any one ever win a fight with the police,they will kill us quick,my God we are doomed.really,it is all over and we let it happen we sat on ass and did nothing,now it really is too late.

    • Seymour Kleerley

      Now now, it will be alright, I promise. If you stop reading this and other Right Wing Propaganda sites you'll slowly get back to reality.

  • tt82

    If there was any doubt there shouldn't be anymore. Who do they work for again ?