Indefinite Military Detention Of US Citizens To Be Signed Into Law By Obama

We've been trying to keep you aware of what has been taking place with the talks concerning the 2013 version of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). We've covered the Feinstein amendment, which effectively did nothing, except to empower Congress to authorize the military at their whim to violate people's 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendment rights. But now the talks are all done and the legislation is headed for Barack Obama's desk to be signed into law soon, just as it was nearly one year ago today, including provision to use the military to indefinitely detain US citizens.

Previously, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) voted for the Feinstein amendment to the NDAA. But then there came the hashing out of language in the bill and Paul blasted Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for stripping away the amendment.

“We had protection in this bill. We passed an amendment that specifically said if you were an American citizen or here legally in the country, you would get a trial by jury,” Paul said. “It’s been removed because they want the ability to hold American citizens without trial in our country. This is so fundamentally wrong and goes against everything we stand for as a country that it can’t go unnoticed.”

The problem with Paul's assertion is that there was no protection for anyone, whether they are a citizen of the US, a permanent resident or a visitor. Rights that are supposed to be protected under the Constitution be damned! Neither the NDAA, nor the amendment proposed protected one person who is on American Soil.

Paul called the NDAA an "abomination." It is that, but so was the Feinstein amendment and even more so because it was deceptive at its core.

The Senate easily passed NDAA 2013 by a vote of 81-14. The next stop is Obama's desk.

UPDATE: People are asking when the House passed NDAA for fiscal year 2013. The links have been provided. This one comes from the one at the end of the article, "Obama's desk." Here's the screenshot. They passed it first in May and then the final passage took place one day before the Senate passed it; December 20.

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UPDATE: Additionally some have asked for the language in the bill. Here is section 1033, which I provided a link to in the article. You can also read my comments and others on the article I wrote concerning this amendment and how it uses language to appear that it does not give authority to indefinitely detain citizens, while at the same time it gives power to Congress authorizes it. Congress gave their authorization (unconstitutional as it was) last year in Section 1023 of the 2012 NDAA.


Section 4001 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--

(1) by redesignating subsection (b) as subsection (c); and

(2) by inserting after subsection (a) the following:

‘(b)(1) An authorization to use military force, a declaration of war, or any similar authority shall not authorize the detention without charge or trial of a citizen or lawful permanent resident of the United States apprehended in the United States, unless an Act of Congress expressly authorizes such detention.

In the end Congress voted to remove the Feinstein Amendment.

UPDATE: Ben Swann has just released a video explaining the amendment.

UPDATE: Here's Part Two of Ben Swann's video explaining Section 1029 of the 2013 NDAA.

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  • Randy111

    Folks, quit blaming this on Obama as a power grab. This dictatorial power was given Presidents back in the early days of the Cold War when everybody thought Russia was going to invade the US. Yep,they really planned for that event back in the 1950s and 60s. The hysteria was as bad it is today.
    This idiotic extension of Presidential Power was recognized originally as a bad--but then thought necessary thing to do--so the congress limited the time it could eemain law. But then they routinely re-enacted it time after time. It should have been repealed and never re-instated when the Cold War ended. You can blame two Bushes and one Clinton for it havign stayed the law until this year. This year, idiots like John McCain got it re-enacted agian--to fight terrorism.
    Of couse the law is sweeping, and the President has almost no retraints on its use--except the Supreme Court. But Justice Roberts has already signalled that he won't say "no" to Obama on healthcare, so I guess it will be teh same with this leftover Presidential power from the Cold War.
    I wouldn';t want to be a "militia" member nowadays.

    • adirondack_1

      What exactly do you want to be if not a defender of your liberty? You only have one other choice you know.

  • 4EVERu

    I wouldn't be so quick to blame O alone on the passing of this bill. Just take a look at who it passes before it gets to him. As I keep saying, "they are all in this stripping us of our rights and giving America away, together." All of these people knew who O was and where he came from. That's why he never was a suprise to any of them and the reason why he gets his way. It is also the reason they do not contest him on any matters where the violation of the constitution is concerned. You can easily see the proggression through the methodical messages they are sending. First, they strip us of our rights and take our guns so we can't defend ourselves. Second, they instill fear tactics with NDAA and make us gov. dependent making it easy for manipulation and total control over all citizens. And thirdly, bring in new world order, probably communism or Islam. I see a posibility of China calling in their markers
    and if we don't pay- oh well rice will be heavy on the menu. Only God can fix this and only if we would just allow Him to do it. We must arrive to the only sensible conclusion that is available and that is we do not posses the mentality nor do we have the power to fix our nation. But we can gain access to it if we seek it through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
    But it needs to be done as a whole nation because that would give us an increase of spiritual strength which is the primary cause of our problems. Please give this your full attention America. I know in my heart that every true American knows that true prosperity begins with the knowledge of God and that it is by our love for Him that we obey Him
    that will give us a strong economy, a strong military, and strong moral and social values.
    We must reconsider our relationship with Him and stop being a nation of acceptance.

  • Rose

    I will die first...

  • gypsy314

    Folks are you ready ? Ready or not it is coming truth is our and our leaders are helping him make the means to fight anyone who does not agree with Obama and democrats. Now I say dame near everyone we have in office is under Obama and democrats thumb. Our rights are being strip away so Obama can rule. look Americans I would rather die free then a slave under his rule so tell your love ones not to enforce this law on its people until we can remove this dictator from office. May god help us all folks. We must unite to demand impeachment of everyone who pass this bill.

  • mes

    why would congress go along with this...

    • adirondack_1

      Does the word coward ring a bell? See, in their world the offer of power is accepted if the threat is they will be cut out of the new government. Greed easily wins because they have no faith in the resolve of the patriots of this nation.

  • GrandmaAmerica

    Obuttface may not be the worlds antichrist but he is Americas antichrist!!!

  • Patriot46

    Someone will have to make a decision. When they come for me I will be unable to stop all of them. However, at least a couple will have to decide if it is time for them to die.

  • Sharon Bowers

    This is criminal. Our forefathers would be at war by now.

  • John Raymond Hass Sr

    I hope our Military dosn't believe in this crap I hope there with us regular citizens and don't go by what Obummer wants wish we could get them to take over Him and his obummerlites!!! There suppose to fight enimes forigen and domestic well we need help at home Guys we need to take our country back from the rag head forces in the white house right now!!!!

    • George

      In case you forgot, Obummer is the Military Commander in Chief.

    • Beedogs

      In case you forgot, military is trained to NOT follow ILLEGAL orders.

    • George

      Keep that thought. The commander needs more blind idots.

  • TexasOlTimer

    Does anyone remember that Obama expressly said that unless this bill INCLUDED American citizens, he would NOT sign it? Why is that? Well, actually that's a rhetorical question as I think we all know why - include the massive amount of hollow point ammunition being purchased by the government, lack of transparency, the many Executive Orders that will allow him to take over even the rain barrel in your back yard and your car... it doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to see what appears to be written on the wall... I'm just sayin'

  • joet433

    Like I said, Washington DC is welcome to secede or we will push them out. They only care about their benefits and power!!!!!

  • William Taylor

    Yaaaaa! 3 HOTS and a COT. Better than a nursing home.

  • George

    We are all pretty intelligent people with many healthy fears about the sad state that we have allowed our government officials to force on us. AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM!
    We all have much to say, but while we are talking about our rights and overall freedom being stripped away, our federal government is busy stripping them away from us. Instead of just words we need to get busy too. Weather it be marching on Washington, pounding on the doors of our local government centers, or just gathering in the streets, we need to get noticed! It's time to fight back and if that means getting the hands dirty then that's what we need to do. There are so many of us out of work with time to spare, I myself am ready to put my life on hold to at least try to save and reclaim my rights and freedom. Am I alone? Does anyone want to try standing together at our Nations Capital. The only thing stopping us is an unwillingness to get up and fight for our freedom.

    • adirondack_1

      I think you better read Sun Tzu and the Federalist Papers. The time for petitioning has passed and it has long been evident that our government has been crafting the ultimate despotism. It isn't wise at this point to threaten it or telegraph intentions. Just get close with your most trusted friends and get ready to take those days off.

    • George

      You read while I get ready to do.

  • Hank

    What is it about having a Marxist State that you find difficult to UNDERSTAND? With obama controlling two of the four branches of government, (The Executive Branch and the National Media) and with the Legislative Branch pretty much a cluster fluck with Harry Reid being obama's whipping boy, he is merely making the marxist Hugo Chavez regime in Venezeula look like pizza party. When the American Public wakes up to reality it will be all over except for the crying, oh, and the blood of American citizens flowing in the streets. Yes, obama's bloody soles of the boots of marxism will be all over the streets soon. It never ends pretty.

  • pgonzales

    Those supposed peoples from Communist Cuba are the very ones who voted this illegal alien in because he promised them monetary gifts from the govt. Another thing is it's amazing that the communist Feinstein can import massive amounts of high caliber rifles from Communist china and make money from them and then to champion laws to strip people of the right to own them. She doesn't even know how to operate a firearm but she carries on with multiple cartriges in which he has had several accidents in operation of this firearm yet she is allowed to continue to carry just because she is a communist supporter of the two residing in the whitehouse who are also murderers of Americans and communists.

  • Cincinnatus

    For our so called reps in Washington. That is known as dereliction of duty, violation of the President's Oath of office; and is punishable at the minimum by impeachment and immediate removal from office and public trial for treason at the maximum. Now that even our reps should understand maybe we could see some sign of life in Washington ?????

  • Leslie McCreary

    Any law that is unconstitutional, is in fact not a law (16th american jurisprudence, no one need obey it, no one need in force it). Also look up title 18 sec 241 & 242 USC. Sgt.Mac

  • servant

    Communists? Who does NOT know that this is an invention of Rome? Via the Jesuits, who call self "The Friends of Jesus Society", well with friends as these Jesus has no need for enemies, that's for sure!

    Why do YOU think all but 3 Ex-Presidents were NOT 33rd Degree Free Masons? Who think you is running this nation into the poor -house, so that the Caesar of the Holy Roman Empire, can rule for Sun -day Worship, all of earth? Read Rev 13-18 and know this shall be!


    80% of all Bible Prophecy has come to pass, as written, what makes YOU think the last 20% will not be, as God directs it?

    Wake up America repent, and come out of her Rev.18:4.and remember why Europe was under the Dark Ages, and by what power! Col1:9 "That that was, shall be again, there's no new thing under the Sun."
    Only those who study God's Word, with much prayer will know and understand and be able to stand in that GREAT DAY!
    Never ever take the words of men for the Word of God, knows that for self.

  • Evermyrtle

    We have been had, by our communist government!!!!

  • Krazeehors

    The BEST way to teach our kids about history -- ESPECIALLY about the Holocaust, and the Revolutionary and Civil War is to buy USED copies of FIRST EDITIONS about those events. Make sure they read them; read along with your kids, then TALK to them about what they are reading.
    And I am NOT talking about a NOOK or any of those other gadgets that will let you download a book. You need THE BOOK ITSELF.
    I had an English Comp instructor in college who told us to ALWAYS read with a pen in our hands so we could make notes in the margin as we go along -- OR make notes on a pad of paper beside you. He said, "THAT is what makes a book REAL!"