Indefinite Military Detention Of US Citizens To Be Signed Into Law By Obama

We've been trying to keep you aware of what has been taking place with the talks concerning the 2013 version of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). We've covered the Feinstein amendment, which effectively did nothing, except to empower Congress to authorize the military at their whim to violate people's 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendment rights. But now the talks are all done and the legislation is headed for Barack Obama's desk to be signed into law soon, just as it was nearly one year ago today, including provision to use the military to indefinitely detain US citizens.

Previously, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) voted for the Feinstein amendment to the NDAA. But then there came the hashing out of language in the bill and Paul blasted Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for stripping away the amendment.

“We had protection in this bill. We passed an amendment that specifically said if you were an American citizen or here legally in the country, you would get a trial by jury,” Paul said. “It’s been removed because they want the ability to hold American citizens without trial in our country. This is so fundamentally wrong and goes against everything we stand for as a country that it can’t go unnoticed.”

The problem with Paul's assertion is that there was no protection for anyone, whether they are a citizen of the US, a permanent resident or a visitor. Rights that are supposed to be protected under the Constitution be damned! Neither the NDAA, nor the amendment proposed protected one person who is on American Soil.

Paul called the NDAA an "abomination." It is that, but so was the Feinstein amendment and even more so because it was deceptive at its core.

The Senate easily passed NDAA 2013 by a vote of 81-14. The next stop is Obama's desk.

UPDATE: People are asking when the House passed NDAA for fiscal year 2013. The links have been provided. This one comes from the one at the end of the article, "Obama's desk." Here's the screenshot. They passed it first in May and then the final passage took place one day before the Senate passed it; December 20.

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UPDATE: Additionally some have asked for the language in the bill. Here is section 1033, which I provided a link to in the article. You can also read my comments and others on the article I wrote concerning this amendment and how it uses language to appear that it does not give authority to indefinitely detain citizens, while at the same time it gives power to Congress authorizes it. Congress gave their authorization (unconstitutional as it was) last year in Section 1023 of the 2012 NDAA.


Section 4001 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--

(1) by redesignating subsection (b) as subsection (c); and

(2) by inserting after subsection (a) the following:

‘(b)(1) An authorization to use military force, a declaration of war, or any similar authority shall not authorize the detention without charge or trial of a citizen or lawful permanent resident of the United States apprehended in the United States, unless an Act of Congress expressly authorizes such detention.

In the end Congress voted to remove the Feinstein Amendment.

UPDATE: Ben Swann has just released a video explaining the amendment.

UPDATE: Here's Part Two of Ben Swann's video explaining Section 1029 of the 2013 NDAA.

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  • obhfwb

    I see the democraps as a disease and it sure does destroy the brain cells and leaves an idiot shell walking around like a zombi. Look at what's in charge of this country and the senate communist idiots who are out to destroy this country for the muslim brotherhood.

  • bfit58 there is a buyback program for guns in LA, and people are giving up their guns in droves. Next will be a federal version of this for the entire country. Then the next step will be gun confiscation, first on a local level, and if there is no widespread outrage, on a national level. And it will all happen over the next 4 yrs. With the NDAA in place, those who resist this takeover will disappear mysteriously, just as in every communist country in the world.
    We are toast folks, unless we begin to shout from the housetops NOW. Time is up!!!

  • J J

    The communistic administration currently in place is slowly chopping away at the Constitution. At some point very soon, we will have no Constitution, no protections from our government, no liberties, no freedoms. The ignorant Obama voters are to blame for these events. They will suffer along with the rest of us. And the Democrat Congressmen are smiling all the way.

  • ElderAl

    Once again, for the innumerable time, Obama, whose only authority comes from the Constitution (if at all) and after swaring to uphold it, has wiped his "bottom" with the said document.
    "First imprison, then execute all those opposing the new emperor-in-chief."

  • YahooBob

    Impeach the "Illegal Alien." Why wait! Call your U.S. Representative and ask he/she to issue Articles of Impeachment vs. Obama--NOW!

  • llardog

    I’m thinking more about the ideology of intolerance, the classic
    liberal. That intolerant teacher in North Carolina was a bully,
    telling her students that it was criminal to criticize Obama. You
    know, when you get right down to it, maybe one of the best ways to
    explain liberalism to the uninitiated is to simply say that it is
    intolerant. It’s a philosophy of “no.” It’s a philosophy of
    domination and “no,” and it’s not at all what people think it

    It’s not open-mindedness. It’s not tolerance. It’s not good
    intentions. It’s not sweetness and light and love and all that.
    It’s a philosophy of “no.” It is intolerant. Socialism,
    fascism, communism, all forms of liberalism dictate behavior. You
    must conform. Individuals? Private businesses? You must conform to
    what they say. And if you don’t they’ll pass laws and regulations
    that force you to. And in order to have uniformity, there must be an
    enforcement mechanism, because people are not the same.

    People don’t want the same things. They don’t believe the same
    things. But if you are going to have uniformity — which is what
    liberalism wants, ’cause that’s equality to them: Everybody being
    the same. Outcomes especially. Being the same. Nobody richer than
    anybody else. If you are to have that, you must have an enforcement
    mechanism that shuts down what? Creativity, choice, and innovation.
    You have to shut down all the things that differentiate people.

  • brabbie2002

    This ignorant twit actually thinks the armed forces are going to back him! What a maroon! Hey, moron - they are sworn to uphold the constitution - NOT your whims of dominance! You had better line up the military and shoot them 'cuz them boys and girls hate your guts!

  • busyboots

    Another step to bring the USA to destruction. You will see little in the MSM about this terrible legislation. It's all part of the George Soros playbook & the puppet is performing well.

    We must never forget these words of Abe Lincoln, or fail to act upon them; "The
    American people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to
    overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution

  • mocha10

    We have 10 commandments that have made America Great! Our government just keeps breaking them, over and over and over. Our laws are based on these 10 commandments. Where are the consequences?

  • Bruce Feher

    We the people are no more

  • James Bradham

    War is coming to this country, hang on all..

  • rocketjl

    Obama tried to blow smoke in everyone's ear on this. He said, 'I would never use this'. Then why is the jerk signing it into law????????

  • Wolf-Talker-1

    The Great Black Father in Washington has already said that he would not hold any SUBJECT this way, all Loyal SUBJECTS of the Current Regime have nothing to worry about, all non-Loyal SUBJECTS BEWARE!

  • Dave Sosa

    when the people fear the government, there is TYRANNY. when the government fear the people, there is LIBERTY. When people wake up and realize the fact that this country has been literally usurped by the money changers(federal reserve)and globalist corporations, crooked politicians, and yes we are ALL complicit! it will cost us many lives either way we go.stay the course many will die by way of LAW, Just like the did in germany, russia, china cambodia and even israel today. or we resist and die like FREE PEOPLE. "those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent ones inevitable" JFK

    • har82


  • Nassany

    I feel like I am out of place in this room, because there're tomany crazy people in this room!

    • har82

      Actually , all the crazy lunatics ,,, are in Washington Dc ... :)
      And if you - feel - out of place here ??, go stand with the commies . :)
      They might ,, make you - feel - better lol.

    • Simon Jester

      Go away then

  • HudginsCommercial

    All I will say is, that anyone in the US Military better remember their Oath when they enlisted. I will always honor my oath as a veteran. The Oath is not to the president, You better remember that when you go knocking on the door of a US Citizens to try and detain an American.

  • defender3

    We are doomed if this flagrant violation of our constitution is allowed to become law. The right to due process is a Constitutional Right and cannot be circumvented by any body of the government be it the Executive Legislative, or Judicial. However, in as much as so many other constitutional rights have been violated with the help of an out of control Judiciary, it probably will happen if American citizens do not speak out loud and clear. Enough is Enough! This law is the ultimate weapon to control the citizens of this country, and must be loudly rejected by all freedom loving Americans who have a clue about the principles this once great county was founded upon. I will quote the famous patriot Patrick Henry, "Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death"!

    • har82

      You forget, - THEY ALL ,,, PASSED THIS LAW ..

    • Arley W Steinhour

      Hi Ho, Hi Ho, It's to Supreme Court we go, Constitution, in hand, Strike up the Band, Hi Ho, .... Hi Ho. Not all have yet passed it. The S. Court, not, and We the People, NOT. (Not threat, leaders, Just-Fact (IMO, of course)):

    • har82

      Ya right . The so called Supreme Court ( more widely known these days ,, as the - jesters - ,, court ) , does not take up cases on its own that I have ever heard of. And I seriously doubt anyone in politics will take it there. Besides soon , there will be 1, maybe 2 more commies on it as well. So do not hold your breath for them ,,, to save America. They (and most ,,, all our courts ) ,, are part of the problem as I see it. I doubt more than 2 ,, of them that are left that give a damn ,,, about the Constitution as it was written.....

    • dwight

      you will get death

  • Simon Jester

    After sitting for a moment and absorbing what this article says and the ramifications of this bill.... Is anyone else sick to their stomach?

    • Arley W Steinhour

      BUICK, O'ROARK, and BARF!!!
      We now need, Red, White, Blue, scarf,

      Patriots, are about to be put to test,
      Cowards stay with the protected rest,

      God's in charge, not me, nor you,
      If He permits, we're in Patriot-Zoo.

      Blades of Grass, I pray stand Tall,
      Or Patriots stand in front of a Wall,

      Before we act, please bend the knee,
      Without God, we can't stay FREE.

  • notosharia

    Now that bho has installed his COMMON CORE (that follows the nazi education from WWll) FOR EDUCATION into 46 state school systems --- It will teach the mandate of Nazi Germany ---A dictator is a DICTATOR and this is what the radical left has installed . Teaching history has already changed and this is because of appointing islamists to education. These islamo/facist(nazis) are rewriting the books and making sure the teachers teach to the mandate of THE COMMON CORE. Only people who lived through WWll will remember this horror. This time it is worse because it is islamo/nazi. Get it??

  • kenny1801

    All Patriots make sure you've got plenty of ammo and that your weapon is oiled and ready...

    • har82

      Hmm, the way I see it. Pretty much - everybody - that calls DC home ( that would include all 3 branches of government ) , and is a politician ,, is a traitor . Or at the very least guilty of - Sedition - . They would - all - ,, make nice tree decorations with a rope . :)