Dem Lawmaker Pushes Legislation To Allow Guns At Work

I don't know about you, but I'm always in support of legislators who promote the Second Amendment, especially when they are clear that the right to keep and bear arms doesn't necessarily have a thing to do with hunting, though that is certainly included. One such lawmaker is Alabama State Senator Roger Bedford, a Democrat from Russellville. He has pushed for legislation that would allow employees to carry handguns to work with the aim being towards protection to and from their place of employment. The bill is SB24 and was introduced on November 3, 2012.

“I think it’s necessary so people will have peace of mind when they’re traveling to and from work,” he said.

According to The Montgomery Advertiser, "The bill would prevent most employers from barring workers from transporting and storing firearms at work. Employees who bring weapons to work would be required to keep their guns locked up and out of sight."

“This has it locked up out of sight in your car,” Bedford said. “You’ve got to have a pistol permit, which means you must be approved by a sheriff to have a gun legally.”

The National Rifle Association supported a previous bill that failed twice.

The President of the Business Council of Alabama Bill Canary opposes Bedford's legislation. He claims that business community should be focused on creating jobs and not dealing with "unnecessary legislation" which would erode the constitutional property rights of businesses. I'll just bet Mr. Canary is all in favor of finding ways to tax these businesses though.

“Alabama businesses are already struggling with burdensome regulations that impact productivity and increase costs," said Canary.

The law wouldn't apply to schools, though I can't imagine why, or anywhere else that federal law would bar people from exercising their Second Amendment rights.

You see my fellow Americans, Bedford has a wonderful idea and that is to let people exercise their constitutionally protected Second Amendment rights, by being able to carry their firearms with them to and from work. Many employers across the nation prohibit such.

If employers prohibit the exercise of the Second Amendment, which they are within their rights to do, then do they not also become, in some part, responsible to provide adequate security to make sure their employees are protected? I'm just asking here. I certainly see nothing wrong with business owners exercising their rights to operate their businesses according to their rules, but if they are adamant about keeping law abiding citizens, especially those the state has issued a concealed carry permit, to lawfully carry their weapons to work, then they should take measures to protect those employees.

Businesses and schools that have a "no-gun" zone policy are simply letting criminals know they can come and do their evil deeds without any threat of retribution. This piece of legislation sounds like a step in the right direction.

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  • junkmailbin

    a packing society is a polite and civil society

  • VocalYokel

    The Second Amendment is my permit to carry.

  • Charlie

    I see both sides of this. Employees have a right to be safe and protect themselves in travel and at work, especially given the rise of workplace violence.

    Businesses shouldn't have to worry about some trigger-happy loon bringing their arms to work or someone having a bad day and making a poor choice- not that it would necessarily stop them from going home and returning to execute a poor choice, but that drive home may calm them enough to stop it.

    I think it's not unreasonable, as long as there are enough precautions to contain possible problems, while leaving enough latitude to contain the problems if they occur.

    I must disagree regarding schools- firearms have no place in school, especially given the stress level a lot of teachers and students are under- and don't think for a moment they aren't under stress, and in my time in schools, I've seen a lot of very bad decisions made under stress, duress, and out of anger and frustration. I'm afraid of what might happen if someone has a stress-crack.

    With that said, I think it would be MORE than reasonable to allow a principal or vice-principal (or both) to keep a pistol or revolver on hand in the event of seige, but this information must be kept confidential for security purposes and the piece needs to be secured.

    This opens some interesting conversation. I don't think the Second Amendment is absolute, but this bill provides a good starting point for the balance we need to provide and ensure safety from, and for, both sides.

    • eman

      We either can arm ourselves or not. You cannot have it both ways.

  • freedomringsforall

    Well at least one Dem has his head screwed on straight about one of our rights.
    Praise God

  • gypsy314

    sounds like a American

  • retiredmillwright

    A person with a gun is a citizen, take his gun away and they
    are just another defenseless peasant. Americans are born with the right of self-defense,
    this really bothers the socialists and communists who want to control every
    part of our lives. We need our guns for when the government gets to be the absolute
    ruler of the land, under the rule of the socialists, and that time grows closer
    every day.

  • retiredmillwright

    A person with a gun is a citizen, take his gun away and they
    are just another defenseless peasant. Americans are born with the right of self-defense,
    this really bothers the socialists and communists who want to control every
    part of our lives. We need our guns for when the government gets to be the absolute
    ruler of the land, under the rule of the socialists, to take back our freedoms. That time grows closer
    every day.

  • jwright673

    The thing that shocks me most about this effort is that it comes from a democrat. I would guess he is now serving his one and only term because surely, his party will gang up on him and get him bounced. I hope not because he is truly a ray of sunshine poking through the bleak morass that is the democrat party.

    • violater1

      There are believe it or not a small (very small) minority of Democrats that have a brain! Believe this or not but many many years ago the Democrats were not the liberal idiots of the past 40 years!

    • jwright673

      You're right, it seems to have crept up beginning in the late 60's and has kept up since.  Too bad as many are lik able and I'm guessing feel like they have to go along with the party.

    • tarco118

      He is a man first and by nature protects home and family. If it takes a gun to do it, so be it. Hopefully he will rethink his political status, he seems to not be a coward or bully. Austraila took the guns away and the crime rate soared. They have their guns back now and the crime rate is down again.


    being an Alabama gun owner I am proud of this person.........

    • InalienableWrights

      How could you be proud of someone that treats you as a slave? As though your rights come from them? That is exactly what this law is doing.

      What we need are state Constitutions that say in much stronger language than the Federal Constitution that any and all gun laws are treasonous and anyone wishing to try and pass any will suffer those consequences.

  • Dave

    OMG! A Democrat that has a brain.

    • InalienableWrights

      No Dave he is making further precedent that our rights come from government.

    • Dave

      Apparently, you also believe "that our rights come from the government". Your other postings call for more state legislation concerning the second amendment. The second amendment in and of itself is clearly stated. By the way, do you have a permit to carry concealed?

    • TLady62

      No kidding...I had to look twice at his name and party affiliation.

  • Raymond

    The purpose of fighting is to win.
    There is no possible victory in defense.
    The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.
    The final weapon is the brain.
    All else is supplemental.


  • Raymond

    The American Revolution would never have happened
    with gun control.

    When you remove the people's right to bear arms,
    you create slaves.

    • arlie

      you bet Raymond!!!! Our founding fathers knew what they were doing. Keep the government under control, NOT WE THE PEOPLE!!!!!! and btw, thanks for your service!!!!

    • Dave

      The American Revolution happened due to an attempt by the Brits to confiscate guns.

    • Wayne Graff

      Gun control means not wasting ammo, one shot one kill.

  • Raymond

    You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.

    Know guns, know peace, know safety.
    No guns, no peace, no safety.

    • Bubble Burster

      I LOVE your replies! I hope our service is filled with straight thinking people like yourself. BTW we LOVE our military men and women. I don't believe it is possible to thank you enough for what you do for us. May God continue to bless you and keep you safe.

    • Raymond

      Obama is now openly recruiting
      homosexuals & lesbians.

    • violater1

      My sentiments as well to Raymond. Curious to know his Rank! I'm betting he is enlisted man probably a Sargeant!

  • Raymond

    Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.

    • tarco118

      It is about self preservation since the government is not too responsible in protecting our borders etc.


      Tarco118 - it’s not about protecting our borders, it’s about removing hugo, and castro, and putin, and hitler, from office when we see them. If 250 million guns are not enough to clean house and get this country back on track, they can give out guns like condoms, and America will still be a cesspool! There should be at least 20 impeachment bill in Congress. After 4 years, there is NOT ONE! That is not the demons’ fault. “All that is needed for evil to prospers, is for good men to do nothing”. “Good” men will not stand for evil, so I’m going to change that to, “All that is needed for evil to prospers, is for men to do nothing”.


      Raymond - gun control is good, it’s about hitting your target!

    • jondarmes

      It's about repeatability in hitting what you are aiming at.

  • Raymond

    A friend of mine sent me this & i'd like to share it
    with you. This sign was posted on a conservatives
    front lawn with a large red arrow that pointed to his
    neighbor's house. This sign sent their neighbor into
    a rage. Raymond

    My Next Door Neighbor wants to BAN all GUNS.
    Their house is NOT ARMED!
    Out of RESPECT for their opinions
    I promise NOT to use MY GUNS to
    protect them........................

    • freedomgirl

      With all do respect,

    • Bubble Burster

      I love your reply!

      Why not tell your neighbor that since they already "ban" guns in their household, why not let OTHERS decide for themselves on what they want to do? Why must they be so INTOLERANT of others?

      I love that - arrow pointing to an UNARMED NEIGHBOR!!!! I LOVE it! I wonder why they were angry .... LOL!!!!!

    • violater1

      It was a very good directive to the Criminal don't you agree!

    • Rick

      I let my Life NRA two stickers on my car do the talking for me. My 9mm I keep on the inside to protect my wife and me.

    • antiglobalist

      Because their dumb $hit attitude did not work, thats the funnyisest of all.

    • William Wallace

      I did that with my roommate who hated guns and I told her I will absolutely not defend her with my guns if a robber/rapist came into the house. She changed her mind about guns very quickly.

    • violater1

      Good for you these people seem to think that as a result of our arming ourselves we are a violent bunch of people that want anarchy in our midst! This is the farthest from the fact that tehy can get! Protection wards off coward criminals! I wish that all States had the Arizona pack em if you own attitude!

    • Ed Bernat

      SD is bout the same

    • Bubble Burster

      Raymond, think carefully if you reply ....

      I can't imagine the military is thrilled with our Commander in Chief.

      Is is possible for intervention? Clearly allot of what goes on with him is anti-American and unconstitutional. He hardly protected and defended those in Benghazi. Is there a point where enough is enough? Truly the longer this goes on the more we become like a Hugo Chavez country ....

    • Raymond


    • celticwaryor

      Hey Raymond, how ya doing these days?

    • Raymond

      Hi Celtic,

      Someone is interfering with my sending & receiving
      emails. I know who it is, not that it matters.

    • celticwaryor

      Sometimes it would be nice to know how to cyber hack someone back when they mess with us!

    • Raymond

      God knows who they are & where they are.
      He will deal with them.

    • buckhalt

      The coward in chief!

    • HotFlight

      Raymond...Absolutely :-)...Big Smile!

    • June Gagnon

      Agreed and just so you know, I'm too old to run, but I can still hit what I aim at!

    • June Gagnon

      By the way, have you, or any of your friends been to "petition2congress" yet. You do realize presidents are NOT elected by the "popular vote", they are elected by the Electoral College and they do NOT meet UNTIL Dec. 17th, this year - -so this fraud is NOT president yet! We still have a chance to "turn this around"! If we can convince just 17 states to "withhold" their Electoral College vote, it will then fall to the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES (not the senate) to "select" the next president!
      If you go to "petition2congress", right there, on page #1, is a fax/petition titled "Petition to Refuse Vote in 2012 Electoral College". The petition asks your US Senators to advise their home state's electors to "withhold" that Electoral College vote!
      These petitions are "free" to send, you can alter, edit, delete, insert your own ideas and comment - -so far only 1185 have been sent. We need to DROWN Congress with hundreds of thousands of these fax/petitions; make OUR voices SO LOUD they cannot be ignored! While you're there, look around; there are dozens of fax/petitions addressing almost every grievance we have; you can send as many or as few as you like.
      If you haven't already, please, go there and do it now; then forward this message to every America loving Patriot in you address book! JG

    • Raymond

      I understand the voting process.
      I aslo understand that it's rigged.

    • John Birckhead

      If I was in the military now, I wouldn't salute him for sure.

    • chris

      Salute the rank (or office).... NOT the man (or woman)

    • Jeff Brodhead

      Obama is rank... VERY rank! Like the pile of dung that he is.

      rank adjective ˈraŋk
      Definition of RANK2: offensively gross or coarse : foul

      We the People of the United States have NOT delegated powers to the States, which can be delegated to the United States, which can permit the Office of President of the United States to be filled by anything less than a Natural Born Citizen - of which BS-Barry AIN'T!

      IMO, anyone who calls that sack of barack "President" is conspiring to commit treason.

    • Ed Bernat

      I like that jeff if you see a post come round you built

    • Jeff Brodhead

      @facebook-100001990267985:disqus Sorry, I read your comment 4 times, but don't get it... ??

    • TexasJester

      Took me a couple reads too - this is what I think he said: "I like that. If you see a good post [i.e. a good comment] you built [wrote] that."

      Ed, not being "grammar police", bits bit of punctuation would help us understand your compliment!

    • Jeff Brodhead

      Thank you @facebook-100001990267985:disqus
      Thank You @TexasJester:disqus


      Jeff - as chris stated, “Salute the rank (or office)…. NOT the man (or woman)”. I’m Conservative AND Christian. I feel the same way you do deep down inside, and I’m dealing with that sin, with guidance from The Holy Spirit. God said He raises up kings and He takes them down. I realized, several things: 1. America will not stand forever, so at some point, this country is going the way of every other nation since Adam and Eve. We are headed toward ‘the new world order’ and ‘one world government’ no matter how hard we fight against it. This is satan’s world, and he WILL rule and reign until Jesus returns. 2. If God really is in control, why do we have Barack Hussein Obama, II in the Presidency? Because Americans have not be good stewards of this Blessing from God we call The United States of America. We forgot what our forefathers knew, that we were never in control, and this does not BELONG to us, it’s on loan from God until Jesus returns. Disrespect for authority is rebellion, which is witchcraft, which is an abomination in God’s eyes (an especially offensive sin). America is guilty, from the top down. The Constitution is the supreme authority in America. President Barack Hussein Obama, II spits on it and disregards it at will. Americans are responsible for the people they elect to office. AMERICA put him in office, even though you and I did not vote for him. AMERICA is responsible for removing politicians from office if they disrespect our “king” The Constitution. This is what the Second Amendment is for, if legislators don’t act, can’t act, or prove ineffective, in removing those who mounted a coup against our king! So why is President Barack Hussein Obama, II still in office? Because We the People put him there, and don’t have the courage to remove him (even with our quarter BILLION weapons)! Therefore America deserves him. In fact, the largest number of “REAL” Christians in the world now are in China, BECAUSE their government is tyrannical. The Gospel flourishes under persecution; always has, always will! Persecution is like fertilizer to The Gospel! God has spoken. America, like the Hebrews of old, will only turn back to God when He turns our Blessing into curses. Until we hit bottom and turn back to Him and Him ALONE, we are on a none stop slide to the bottom! Man cannot fix this. If he could, he would have. God can, but He will not, unless we fall on our faces, REPENT (turn from our wicked ways), and beg His forgiveness. II Chronicles 7:14, read it slowly, carefully, and several times. Let it sink in. Then, if you want America ‘back’, DO WHAT II CHRONICLES commands. It’s the ONLY WAY! God say, He WILL heal our land…if…

    • jondarmes

      Just because you salute an outhouse does not mean you have any respect for it or that you wouldn't enjoy taking a dump in it.

    • Jeff Brodhead

      4Percenter, Thank you for your input.

      Sorry, it's late and you wrote ONE PARAGRAPH and I still have work to do before I can sleep...

      I agree with / understand much you wrote, but one issue I have, regarding America, is that We the People are the sole conduit of all powers delegated to government(s). Don't take that as meaning God is not in the equation - He is the sole source of all our rights (inalienable, or not.) In turn, we, as a Union of Nations of Sovereign People, have delegated, not abandoned, certain, specified (enumerated) powers to our government(s).

      Our [U.S.] government is NOT headed by a succession of kings; neither are the States. All our delegates in the [U.S.] government are our servants, occupying positions created to defend the Union and only as necessary, referee interstate commerce.

      The Office of President of the United States of America, is an office of service, not ultimate / infinite authority - an office which, unless held with the same level of regard, as so many of America's Warriors feel honored to serve, will ONLY be abusive. It is only to be held by those who can be entrusted with the Public Trust - especially and without exception, one who is a Natural Born American Citizen. Power in the hands of an already corrupt individual, is bound to be disastrous (BS-Barry: case in point.)

      Occupying an office in a building does not convey authority over the People. Positional leadership does NOT convey rights to abuse, nor the right to be obeyed. Government has NO RIGHTS, only delegated powers. America is NOT a democracy, but a Constitutional Republic and the mass of liars and thieves in DC and so many local and State governments are criminals without honor of any sort.

      If you were on a commercial airliner and hijackers took control of the pilot's seat, did God place the hijacker in a position of unquestionable authority over the passengers? Is it sinful to rebel against such a creature of Hell; a liar; a cheat?

      Our Nation was constructed upon very specific rules, violation of which cannot be tolerated. Congress' passing of "laws" which attempt to add to the enumerated, delegated powers, does not make them law of the land. That is a hijacking, deserving of expulsion from office and as a willful violation of a solemn oath of office, is certainly deserving of no less punishment than a military officer violating his/her oath. The power of weaponry, which is held in such corrupt hands, should be terrifying to We the People... especially when we consider that of the half of Americans who voted in opposition to the Left, far too many care more for the next football game, than who is stealing our Nation.

      Side note:
      My son and I took a load of garbage to our local disposal site yesterday. As we unloaded my truck, I spotted two U.S. flags in a pile of trash. We rescued the flags and I was happy that another man came over and offered to help fold the flags, as well as possible (they were very wet, dirty and wind-tattered) into the proper triangle.

      After folding, I took the flags to an employee of Waste Management and told him we had just found them (turns out they had watched the folding process and were waiting.) He said they have a Veteran working there, who takes the flags found on-sight, to the VFW for PROPER, respectful disposal. I handed the flags to him, in the manner I was taught as a scout and as I remember the flag being presented to me at my father's funeral, by the USAF Honor Guard (without the words, of course.)

      Talk about a series of mixed feelings: anger that some disrespectful idiot thought nothing of throwing the flags into a garbage pile, grateful that my son was there to witness the whole process, for the rare opportunity to act in front of my son, in a way which conveys my feelings for what the flag represents (not government, but sacrifice and honor), grateful for the unsolicited assistance of another Patriot and grateful to find that employees of Waste Management are prepared for such events!

      Over all, as much as I hated what I saw, I am grateful to have been there. I do not believe in coincidence. Our Sovereign God does place us in times and places of His choosing, for reasons we may not ever understand. Hopefully we succeed more often than fail in the purpose.

      We the People who are the adopted children of God our Creator, are not just here as eye-witnesses to HIStory in unfolding, but to shine light BOTH on the narrow path and to expose Evil's ways - there will be NO excuse for those who choose the path of evil... so long as there are obvious truths. We are the addition of light and salt. I pray that my words are not merely sinful rants.

    • Randy

      Well stated. We must recognize our sins, repent of them and turn our faces to the only true God and Universal Creator Jehovah, Lord of Lords.

    • Roger12266

      Rebellion is NOT witchcraft by either Biblical definition or current definition. Rebellion by the people is what created, with the extreme help of God, the United States.
      Noone knows what God's plan for the United States is. It may very well be that another revolution is to occur and reinstate God to his position as the leading force in the United States.
      I don't pretend to know the answer, but as a Veteran, I will stand by the United States' Constitution and defend it with my life should that become necessary again.

    • Jeff Brodhead

      Thank You Veteran!

      I believe America is the unpredictable wildcard God has used to contour the twists and turns of the last two and a half centuries. America represents the Peoples of all the world. America mirrors so much of the good and the bad, which is happening in the world and has been instrumental in the acceleration of technologies and in dampening the growth of overwhelming evil, while HIStory unfolds to the end.

      Just my opinion...

    • Patriot-Research

      First you salute the rank, correct, but when the man behind the rank does not have respect for the rank you do not salute. Two, based on this story, I do hold a CCW and do keep my weapon in my car when I go to work. I don't park on company property.

    • OldProudArmedWhiteGuy

      The "office" is being "held" UNLAWFULLY.

    • Roger12266

      Salute the office or rank. However if the person holds the position or rank illegally, it is really illegal to support that person under the Unified Code of Military Justice

    • tom s

      I think about the secret service people whom have to protect him (and his) and know that I would not be able to do so. If I had that job, I would have to quit or request another assignment as I would not be able to "take a bullet" for him. I think the office is tainted badly with obama in it.

    • James

      Commander in Chief? STILL WAITING FOR ONE,,,, 4 damn years now,,,, and counting......

    • IMSweetOlBob

      We have no Commander in Chief. We have a Commander in Grief !

    • Randy

      Well said.

    • Leonard

      With leadership as we have now, that is the motive.

    • Laura

      Is there no Reoublican left who can articulate a coherent vision or rhetoric that explains the party's philosophy. Ray is applauded for his funny little stories that articulate nothing. No wonde the party lost what should have been an easy election. Truly sad. There is little hope for its resurgence. I know blame it on fraud and moochers. Look deeper. Truly a dead institution.

    • Wayne Graff

      Gee Laura, you should pay attention to your writing, especially when criticizing people for being inarticulate. It's not the Republican party that is lost, it's this country, for telling GOD to get out. Until that changes we are all lost.

    • John Birckhead

      U got it right.

    • georgetheclown

      Telling GOD to get out. I thought you idiots thoight he was all powerful. Keep hoping, Santa Claus is coming soon.

    • James

      "santa" obuma? Could be,,, after all, he DOES have a HO-HO-HO.

    • Jeff Brodhead

      georgeTHEclown, your logic makes no sense.

      God IS all powerful. Just and loving too.

      God is NOT "allah", which forces SUBMISSION.

      God provided THE way to salvation, at great cost, and is loving enough to allow us to choose that way, or not.

      If we turn our backs on Him, the consequences are OUR responsibility, not His.

    • fliteking

      Excellent Wayne.

    • Ed Bernat

      there is a page on face book called 2012 election investigation. If you read all the maps by state you will see how the fraud worked out.

    • Raymond
    • violater1

      We need not look too deeply for you are doing that for us looking deeply with your head stuck up your ass!

    • panors77

      No just infiltrated by RINOS from the communist infiltrated dem party. So it's "ok" to have a Kenyan born president, one who got "elected" by voter fraud IE states having MORE votes than registered voters per district. Y' the tables were turned the dems would be pulling the Al Gore tactic of "recount until you get the results you want", albeit a recount DOES seem apropo here in this case. Funny the Republicans haven't historically called for recounts either...but I digress.

    • sha49tn

      They can't call for a recount~legally. However, that's not to say that we citizens couldn't call for one! Apparently, about 30 years ago, or maybe longer, the Repubs got caught in some kind of cheating scandal during an election, so signed an agreement that they wouldn't challenge the outcome of elections. That is something I had NEVER heard of,until this election. They can apparently ask for it to be rescinded, but of course, the Dems would never budge. It's disgraceful!

    • Jeff Brodhead

      They CAN call for a recount, because OUR representatives cannot be bound from doing their job of representing We the People and upholding the Constitution of the United States of America. Maybe the "GOP" can't call for a recount, but the U.S. House of Representatives sure as Hell better!

    • sha49tn

      No, the reason we lost the election is because of all the fraud, & outright intimidation of Republicans at the polls. If all the cheating hadn't happened, Obama would have lost. And, apparently, because the Repubs got caught in some kind of cheating about 30 years ago, they no longer have the legal right to protest election cheating. They can apply to have that rescinded, but of course, no activist judge or election president is going to grant it. THAT'S why we lost, & it's also something that almost NOBODY, on the Republican side, knew. But, you can sure bet the Dems knew it, & so did the majority of our Repub reps & senators.

    • violater1

      Thank you laura for bringing up that point of the Republican demise for I have also become aware of it recently! But they could still challenge this judge Dickinson arbitration agreement and have it thrown out! One Judge makes it possible for rampant criminal action against the American Public! This is insane!

    • justcrosstheborder

      Laura, I hope that you don't need the help from someone and the only people around are the conservatives that really care. People in Venezuela is voting w/o liberties. We are heading to the same type of country as Venezuela. This present administration is practicing what has failed many times over. USSR,Cuba, N Korea, Cambodia, the list goes on and on. When people vote because of the color of the skin, welfare, cell phone, condoms or contraceptives and many more "gifts", then we have no elections. What we have is soul selling enterprise. The devil is very crafty. Here in my neck of the woods there was a county that had more votes counted than register voters. ALL FOR OBAMA.

    • dalek1967

      I agree. I'm disabled and I vote conservative every time. People think I am crazy but I still believe in the Constitution not what I get from the Government. Some may have to read that a few times to see the difference. Most here will see it right away tho.

      I see people talking like the Republicans needs to move to a more moderate position but I disagree. The Republicans are losing because they are moving to the center. They are not conservative enough and Romney proves that. As I said before the last election, the Republicans need to merge with the Democrats and then have a REAL conservative party be the second party. They may take a bit to get a foot hold but once they get their ducks in a row, I believe they will win. A true conservative can get this country back on its feet.

      Back on topic. What part of "shall not be infringed" do people not understand? I think even having to have a license violates the Constitution. I'm disabled, that license fee infringes on my 2nd amendment. Any lawyers here want to take this on?

    • fliteking

      Laura, first I want to say I will be calling the OWS / DNC offices because you did not invoke the number one tactic of the modern liberal, name-calling when responding the the fine American Raymond.

      You no doubt will be getting some demerits from your handlers, especially. when they see your spelling and lackluster meandering message.

      Second, the content of Raymond's message is quite clear and articulated in a manner that even most modern liberal simpletons can understand it.

      Perhaps if you re-read it, aloud, several times . . .

    • George Washington

      You are so proud of you Publik Screwall dee-plow-ma eh? Why don't you go back and learn to spell correctly,eh?

    • Ed Bernat

      dont kid yourself

    • violater1

      I think this is great and you can bet on one thing if I had a neighbor like that that had a criminal attack or invasion I would give them notice not to call me when the police do not arrive in time to save then from their demise! Yet I would offer them prayer for their safety!

    • antiglobalist

      Thanks Raymond Your posts are always positive

    • Raymond

      Thank you for your kind words.

    • fliteking

      Excellent Raymond. Whipped up a quick copy for others if wanted to post on SpaceBook or MyFace etc.

    • ff_emt

      Like my neighbor, who has a sign stating they "[...] are gun owners, and the door you just kicked in was for YOUR safety, not mine." 😀

    • Snowman8wa

      "You may not like guns, and choose not to own one. That is your right.
      You might not believe in God. That is your choice. However, if someone is
      breaking into your home the first two things you are going to do are: 1) Call
      someone with a gun. 2) Pray they get there in time."

      Anonymous "

      Hey Marine!
      Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis

    • dalek1967

      Same with atheists too. When they see death coming, the first two words are "oh God". To late now tho. Here it comes. 😉

    • numorning2

      our driveway sign reads protected by Smith and Wesson the next one closer up to our house (homemade) says beware of the hungry dogs - kept that way for our entertainment. Only those who know what's up this dirt 1000 ft driveway want to come back here, we get calls from the new guy on the UPS truck and they ask if it's safe to come back? duh, and those who are brave come back and just sit and honk, the dogs are indeed intimidating.but it buys us time to be ready for the good the bad and the ugly.

    • futurelife

      Raymond, missed you somehow in this sight... and I agree with you, think maybe we all should do that if live next to a nut that hates any protection of our homes.

    • Raymond

      Someone is interfering with me sending
      and receiving emails.

    • futurelife

      I feel the same way, I can't rec' many emails from people and when I use to copy and paste, now can't even do that. With dems on my e mail list, I sent copy and paste so they would open it but now, that is a loss. obama is getting into everything and Hollywood said the other day that they made obama their god. No more movies unless I buy them on a DVD and not watching much TV anymore either. Getting really sad in this land.

    • Raymond

      My problems started at the beginning of September.
      First it was Comcast, now it's Verizon. Someone is
      messing with me.

    • Leonard


    • A. Levy

      Beautiful! LOL

    • Jesussaid Love

      Raymond, they are probably afraid of you, maybe they think that when you shoot your wife the bullet will go through the wall and get one of them!

    • hollygreen9

      I just went out and got myself an M14. I have always wanted one since carrying one in the military. I am old enough to spoil myself once in a while (67).

  • Raymond

    Things that I found helpful by living this long. The purpose of fighting is to win..
    The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either... The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental.

    1. Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

    2. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics stink.

    3. I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

    4. When seconds count, the cops are just minutes away.

    5. A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers.
    The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying
    and asked him 'Why do you carry a 45?' The Ranger responded, 'Because they don't make a 46.'

    6. The old sheriff was attending an awards dinner. when a lady commented on his wearing his sidearm
    'Sheriff, I see you have your pistol. Are you expecting trouble?'
    'No Ma'am. If I were expecting trouble, I would have brought my shotgun.'

    7. Beware the man who only carries one gun.

    But wait, there's more!
    I was once asked by a lady visiting if I had a gun in the house.
    I said I did. She said 'Well I certainly hope it isn't loaded!'
    To which I said, of course it is loaded, it can't work without bullets!'
    She then asked, 'Are you that afraid of someone evil
    coming into your house?' My reply was, “No not at all
    I am not afraid of the house catching fire either,
    but I have fire extinguishers around, and they are all loaded too”.

    • violater1

      Your #1 item is priceless and absolutely true, I resemble that point well made and taken! #7 is also well advised and the last point is great! You like each of us Raymond are one of a kind!

    • Raymond
  • Raymond

    Why I Carry a Gun!

    My old grandpa said to me 'Son, there comes a time in every
    man's life when he stops bustin' knuckles and starts bustin' caps and
    usually it's when he becomes too old to take an butt whoopin.'
    I don't carry a gun to kill people.
    I carry a gun to keep from being killed.
    I don't carry a gun to scare people.
    I carry a gun because sometimes this
    world can be a scary place.
    I don't carry a gun because I'm paranoid.
    I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.

    I don't carry a gun because I'm evil.
    I carry a gun because I have lived long enough
    to see the evil in the world.

    I don't carry a gun because I hate the government.
    I carry a gun because I understand the limitations
    of government.

    I don't carry a gun because I'm angry.
    I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the
    rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.

    I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone.
    I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in
    my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.

    I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man.
    I carry a gun because men know how to take care of
    themselves and the ones they love.

    I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate.
    I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three
    armed thugs, I am inadequate.

    I don't carry a gun because I love it.
    I carry a gun because I love life and the
    people who make it meaningful to me.

    Police protection is an oxymoron.
    Free citizens must protect themselves.
    Police do not protect you from crime,
    they usually just investigate the crime after
    it happens and then call someone in to clean
    up the mess.

    Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young
    to die and too old to take a whoopin'.....

    • scottie526

      Raymond, if only we had more MEN like you instead of pussies like Obama, Reid and Pelosi. Maybe then and only then can we bring this country back from going over the cliff.

    • Bubble Burster

      MAJOR ditto!

      I love this gentleman. He speaks the truth.

    • Mick

      So why dud you lose Presidency and key legislative spots. That sh be a wakeup call. Just resulted in more empty labels and slogans.

    • violater1

      You will see how empty they are soon, just be prepared to have your head pulled out of your ass soon to see the results that you are a party too! Then you will cry like a baby for help and we will probably give it, not that you deserve it! AND THEN AGAIN IF HELP FAILS TO COME YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BLAME ANYONE BUT YOUR SORRY ASS SELF! So no whining down the road when you find yourself in a very bad situation of your own doing!

    • panors77

      The presidency was stolen via voter fraud twice!! If we were dems we'd be calling for recount after recount right now.

    • ff_emt

      cuz you & yer friends can't count, unless it pertains to how many freebies you can get, paid for by me & my friends, and our hard work.

    • John Birckhead

      Amen to that

    • Buck Futter

      Why I carry a gun!

      I carry a gun because my penis is small!

      Sublimate, sublimate, sublimate!

    • rocket man

      yes thats what your wife said and she said your brain is smaller yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • jay folio

      At least you recognize your "shortcomings"... lmao

    • William Wallace

      Hey, if that's your reason to carry a gun, that's fine. Better than not carrying a gun.

    • violater1

      William< I think you need to rethink that directive! If he is that small minded he may be like the democrat moron that shot the Arizona Representative lady!

    • Dave

      Apparently your tiny appendage is just large enough to contain your one brain cell.

    • violater1

      LOLLOLLOL! Very good dave!

    • violater1

      Small brain as well!

    • TPCK353


    • John Birckhead

      I also protected the public. These politicians opposing/banning weapons are asking for trouble. They are creating a nation of dissention, high unemployment means more crime, more people forced to steal, rob,

    • grassroot

      When the mayhem begins the left is relying on the country to call for
      them to step in, declare martial law, take over like the good marxists/commies they down deep are. As their mentor saul alinsky said, " collapse the system"
      and install another one. One that is " more to the desire of our hearts,"

      That statement is from the fabyan socialists.

    • carguy427

      You forgot after steal and beg to get increasingly more govt handouts.

    • violater1

      Sorry to hear of your demise TPCK353, Was it in the line of duty? Not that that matters, the sentiment is still the same! I do hope that you have a full and healthy recovery! But do not let these injuries ever be forgotten and you will always know why in your mind that to be able to protect onesself is precious in and of itself! Some 40 to 50 million people have died without the opportunity to defend themselves in Russia and Germany alone!

    • ff_emt

      he's back on his feet, not dead (demise)!

    • Dwain Holmes

      Raymond I love Your comments!!You are right on.The only thing I would like to see is Your comments on liberal sites>I maybe am missing them but I comment on a lot of lib sites(been banned from some)and never see You on them unless You are using a different name!Here We are preaching to the chior.We need to get our message to the libs.I see many on conservative sites but never see them on lib sites!I think that is one area We fail in!!Keep up the good work!!!!

    • Raymond

      I comment on which is a
      communist website. What websites are you talking about?

    • Jeff Horton

      totally Agree with you Dave. We preach to people whom already get it.

    • violater1

      Great Post Raymond and your Grandpa gave extremely good advice! I am one of those also and wish I had thought of that in such a simple wording. Straight and to the point! I do love it so! None of us, pray not, desire to take the life of another human but sometimes in the course of human events it becomes necessary!
      I do not have the slightest desire to have to explain to my Lord Jesus Christ and His father why I have blood on my hands! But you can bet your behind that I do not fear protecting the life of a friend or loved ones or myself!

    • Raymond
    • Raymond

      If you know Jesus as your Lord & Savior this is what you have
      to look forward to.

    • Armyof 1

      Your wright Raymond, I carry a Gun as well, and a good friend i know was setting in his car on the cell phone when a thug broke out the window on the passenger side and pointed a gun at him and shot him in the hand, he then pulled out his gun and empty'ed the clip. You never know when bad things may happen, ware ever there's good there's eval.

    • Cheetah

      I would love to post this on Facebook, with your permission, please!

    • Raymond


    • medic2003

      Love it. Sounds like stuff my dad used to tell me when i was growin up lol. So true.

  • Raymond

    I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people.
    To disarm the people is the best and most effectual
    way to enslave them.
    George Mason - Co-author of the 2nd Amendment
    during Virginia's convention to ratify The Constitution, 1778.

    Those who hammer their guns into plows,
    will plow for those who don't.

    Thomas Jefferson.

  • Raymond

    Firearms stand next in importance to the United States Constitution
    itself. They are the American peoples liberty teeth and keystone under
    independence......from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day,
    events, occurrences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace, security
    and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable. The very
    atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference. They
    deserve a place with all that's good.

    George Washington - First President of the United States.

  • Raymond

    To perserve liberty, it's essential that the whole body of the people
    always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young,
    how to use them.

    Richard Henry Lee - American Statesman, 1788.

    • Gene R Swank

      I dont care who owns the business, if I can not carry on there property they are violating my constitutional rights. If I can not carry at work they better have armed security because if something happens I will sue for every penny they have and I will win. No one including the feds have the right to violate my Constitutional God given rights. The Supreme Court has ruled twice in the past that an unconstitutional law is null and void and can not be enforced. It is time for the people to tell the feds, the state, taht we are not going to take it any more. They are violating our rights which makes them Criminals and Traitors. When you violate your oath you are committing treason. Treason carries the death penalty. That is the law!!!!

    • MaryBob Meyer

      I am an avid gun collector and fully support the 2nd amendment Mr Swank, but you are wrong. Everyone has the right to deny the carry of firearms on their property. You may or may not like it but it is a fact. You don't have to go on their property you know. You could get a job somewhere else. Don't get me wrong I think it would be great to be able to carry wherever I want but that just isn't the case. They also have their rights that you can't violate. Would you like it if someone put a sign up in your yard and claimed it was their 1st amendment right to do so?

    • violater1

      That is just it MaryBob, While we respect the rights of others namely the liberal idiots! They make it a point not to honor that but to in fact attack our rights and make it there business to remove our rights and liberties! They have no ethics or morals or scruples! They are the worst of the Criminals that await the time to abase all others!
      Like it or not the time of sharing lead poisoning with many of them is coming!