A Reality: Death Panels For Babies

Yes, for those of you who agree with me on the issue of abortion...excuse me, murder of the unborn, it is not hard to make the leap to death panels for newborn babies. But could that happen in America?

First, consider the current occupant of the White House's promotion of infanticide. Consider that the Democrat National Convention did not exclude infanticide and actually has a rabid audience for the murder of the unborn.

Now consider that America is well on her way to moving towards a health care system like that of the United Kingdom. "Stop," you exclaim. "Obamacare is not socialized medicine," you continue.

Well friend, Obamacare as it is not completely like the European system, yet. It has not gotten to the final goal, but is on target to do so. The final goal is a one payer system. It is a complete takeover of health care. Once that takes place you can forget about "insurance." There will be none to be found. You will be at the mercy of the state.

It has come to light that the "glorious health care system" of the UK that the communists and socialists of our country have been promoting actually have death panels for newborn babies. That's right, they are knowingly murdering infants.

The Daily Mail writes,

Sick children are being discharged from NHS hospitals to die at home or in hospices on controversial ‘death pathways’.

Until now, end of life regime the Liverpool Care Pathway was thought to have involved only elderly and terminally-ill adults.

But the Mail can reveal the practice of withdrawing food and fluid by tube is being used on young patients as well as severely disabled newborn babies.

Again, it's not a leap to move from the murder of the elderly to the murder of the most helpless among us. In fact, America is murdering its unborn which those who advocate it as a woman's choice still have not told us when life begins.

According to an anonymous physician, who submitted his horrific experience to the British Medical Journal in an article titles How it feels to withdraw feeding from newborn babies, pulls back the lies surrounding the ugly face of death panels in the UK.

Parents who must give doctors permission to put their child on the "pathway to death." Parents! My God have mercy! Those entrusted to care the most, to provide and protect the blessings God has given them choose to collaborate with their doctors to murder their own children.

“I know, as they cannot, the unique horror of witnessing a child become smaller and shrunken, as the only route out of a life that has become excruciating to the patient or to the parents who love their baby,” the doctor writes. “I reflect on how sanitized this experience seems within the literature about making this decision.”

Just in case you are one of those that attempts to argue that this is to keep the child from suffering, the doctor has news for you. “Survival is often much longer than most physicians think. …Parents and care teams are unprepared for the sometimes severe changes that they will witness in the child’s physical appearance as severe dehydration ensues.”

The emotional burden is not just borne by parents, but by the "care team" or I should say "lack of care" team, who monitor the process of the baby's dying, describing it as “an indescribable mixture of compassion, revulsion and pain.”

“Some say withdrawing medically provided hydration and nutrition is akin to withdrawing any other form of life support," the physician continues. "Maybe, but that is not how it feels. The one thing that helps me a little is the realization that this process is necessarily difficult. It needs to be.”

In addition, Bernadette Lloyd, a hospice pediatric nurse informed the Cabinet Office and the Department of Health concerning the death pathways for children.

She wrote, "The parents feel coerced, at a very traumatic time, into agreeing that this is correct for their child whom they are told by doctors has only has a few days to live. It is very difficult to predict death. I have seen a “reasonable” number of children recover after being taken off the pathway."

"I have also seen children die in terrible thirst because fluids are withdrawn from them until they die," she said.

‘I witnessed a 14 year-old boy with cancer die with his tongue stuck to the roof of his mouth when doctors refused to give him liquids by tube,m" she continued. "His death was agonizing for him, and for us nurses to watch. This is euthanasia by the backdoor.’

Does anyone remember Terry Schiavo? They did the exact, same thing to her. She was the 41-year-old Florida woman that was allowed to be starved to death under the watchful eye of the federal government, under President George W. Bush, and State Governor Jeb Bush. Before you argue that they didn't do so and that was a court's decision, ask yourself if it was right, not if it was legal. What is being allowed to happen to these babies was allowed to happen to Mrs. Schiavo. For thirteen days she was deprived of food, fed through a feeding tube, and water.

In the Schiavo case it was due to an unfaithful husband that didn't want her around claiming that she would have wanted it that way. Contrast that with her loving parents that constantly attended to her and would have willingly took her home to care for her rather than see her face such wicked and evil deprivation of basic necessities.

A man once said, "Unless we resolve this and understand that life is precious and we must protect life, we can’t protect liberty."

If we do not settle the issue of when life begins (and that can only be consistently held to be at conception) in our own minds and in our country as a whole, we are not only looking at infanticide spreading rampant, but also euthanasia, and ultimately just anyone who we deem not worthy of living we will attempt to rationalize their murder just as in the case of Terry Schiavo.

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  • /.murphy

    Just because you people want death panels doesn't mean we're going to get them. Too many of us are against them. And even so, why are conservatives worried about it anyway? Our money will always buy great health care, and our families won't be subjected to this.

  • LNR

    It is often difficult to determine whether you are truly prolonging life or merely delaying death.

  • J J

    Death panels will be a reality for anyone who does not fit into Obama and the Democrat's ideal society - remind you of someone else??

  • Andrea Roltgen

    Since the death mills continue to grow in their acceptability with the ones in power, I know death panels and complete eugenics is not far away.

    Since I know this is our future without an intervention from the Almighty Lord, my prayer is that He will spiritually and physically comfort the ones being systematically murdered..may He intervene in a way we cannot understand, and wrap His comfort around the preborn being burned alive, dismembered, and the already born humans being starved and dehydrated to death.

    How any parent..ANY PARENT could sit by, and watch the emaciated eyes of their child cry out for comfort, and neglect that cry is beyond me.

    May you come quickly Lord Jesus, and mete out the justice for the innocent...we feel so helpless to do anything to save these innocent lives!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joan-Carmody/100001439194068 Joan Carmody

    When Obama was an Illinois state senator, he voted against the "Born Alive Infant Protection Act" three times. That act would require medical care for infants who survive an abortion attempt. He also said, jokingly, "Deciding when life begins is above my pay grade." I think the Presidency is above his pay grade.

  • Momcat49

    It is as much a sin to prolong death & suffering when we cannot hope for the individual's return to a meaningful life as it is to cut short a vibrant life. Mercy & relief of suffering must always be our goals. It is never merciful to withhold hydration & pain medication---particularly the latter. If you truly believe in God's promise of a better life to come, why would you keep someone in a Hell on earth by prolonging death? A good death is the best gift you can give someone in the terminal stages of cancer with intractable pain, or in end-stage emphysema or heart failure, for whom each breath is a struggle, or a tiny baby whose birth defects are incompatible with life. I am not talking about euthanasia, but about letting "nature take its course", while the individual is kept comfortable. These measures are taken, not to save money, or for the convenience of the family or the hospital or the government, or the doctors, but for the welfare of the individual ALWAYS, first & foremost.

    • http://twitter.com/debraraes debra steinman

      Spoken like a true Lib.

    • Momcat49

      Actually, I am an Independent & recoil from the "True Libs", as well as the extreme conservatives! My beliefs have been formed by a strong belief in God & that I was put here with certain gifts to use for good, to leave this world a better place than I found it, one person at a time. I cannot change the whole world, but I have the opportunity in each interaction to do good or ill---my choice---& I choose good. I watched my mother suffer needlessly for months with terminal cancer when I was 17, because the doctors were afraid she would become "addicted" to pain meds. Why? There was no "redemption" in her suffering, either for her or or for me---we both already believed in her salvation after her death. Her suffering DID convince me that no one should ever have to suffer like that, but she did not have to suffer for many months for me to understand that. I have seen far too many times when families insist that patients be kept dying when there is no hope of recovery & return to home or active life. I speak, not as a "true lib", but as someone who has cared---in many senses--for many patients over the years.

    • Joe1938

      Again, I say thanks for your professionalism.

  • R.Young

    It is the law of SURVIVAL, only the Fit shall SURVIVE, eliminate the SICK,theLame and the Lazy and the fittest will SURVIVE!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joan-Carmody/100001439194068 Joan Carmody

      Darwin's book "On the Origin of Species" had the subtitle, "Or the Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life." It has been dropped from subsequent editions but is still on the original. Guess which are the "favored races" and which are not? Most Planned Parenthood abortion mills are in minority neighborhoods and Hitler was a big fan of Darwin.

    • Joe1938

      Don’t forget Margaret Sanger.

  • gnafuasusual

    Read: Pink Pagoda, please. Then tell me it's all right to "set aside" babies.

  • fliteking

    There clearly WILL BE death panels for infants.

    This is the next logical step to "aborting" your living children if they should become to much of a social burden.

    Liberals are rapidly eclipsing the Nazi's and Socialists in their want & ability to be evil.

  • Momcat49

    As a physician & surgeon with 26 years of patient care experience in ER, OR, ICU, office, hospital wards, & even the side of the highway experience---I can tell you that the above examples are chosen for emotion & not realistic for care here. Instead, our care has become so technologically advanced that we have become unable to distinguish between prolonging life & prolonging death. Withdrawal of life-prolonging care should NEVER result in misery for the dying! Comfort care should always continue, even when all hope of recovery from an illness or injury is gone. To do anything less is both inhuman & inhumane---& just plain wrong. Anyone who stands by & WATCHES such mistreatment is morally obligated to intervene & assure that the comfort of the dying patient is seen to. As surgeons, it is sometimes difficult to admit that we cannot "fix" every ailment or injury, but it is a simple truth of life---we cannot. It is then incumbent upon us to do the best we can to make our patients' deaths in these circumstances as comfortable as we can & to comfort their families as much as we can. There was a wise 19th century American physician (whose name escapes me at the moment) whose motto was, "To cure sometimes, to help often, to comfort and console always." We have gotten to the point where we can cure most of the time---we need to remember about that comfort & consolation, too.

    • http://twitter.com/debraraes debra steinman

      Tell 'that' to the woman in Oregon who was 'denied' a life saving cancer drug because it was too expensive, and told she gets 'comfort care' instead.


      In short you 'may' be a 'physician' and a 'surgeon', but you obviously are 'not' current with the information you have.

      I do applaud you though on your moral stance, of not standing by while a patient is wrongly denied 'life saving' care. As the full affects of ObamaCare are known, my prayers will remain with you.

    • Momcat49

      I do not support Obamacare---we have not yet begun to see the negative consequences. The exodus of docs from private practice has already begun as cutbacks in Medicare have made it more & more difficult for docs to pay their overhead. 2013 will bring 25% cuts in payments to hospitals & surgeons.( Most people are unaware that physician payments have been price-controlled since the Nixon administration). Mounting malpractice premiums, rising overhead costs, combined with lower reimbursements from not just Medicare, but Medicaid & private insurers, have resulted in more & more docs closing their practices & seeking salaried positions. Med school applications are down & residency training programs are being forced to decrease the number of positions as payments to teaching hospitals have been cut. I fear that we are being herded toward a single-payer system in which the government is the provider of all healthcare via a system of clinics that resemble VA clinics, because of the coming doctor shortage. I have seen how inefficiently the government handles Medicare & Medicaid---Heaven help us if it has charge of all of our healthcare!
      Oregon is a special case---it instituted a system of ranking diseases & coverages, & thus what treatments would be paid for by Medicaid a few years back. You are correct---it is likely a harbinger of things to come, unfortunately.

    • Joe1938

      Momcat49, Thanks for your informative blog. You do seem to have a good handle on things! Thanks again.

    • Joe1938


      You mention “inhuman & inhumane---& just plain wrong”, “comfort & consolation, too” and other things that we Americans expect from your profession. You are to be commended for your professionalism. However, for every person like you, there seems to be 10 others who will push a needle into a baby’s scull and suck its brains out to perform partial birth abortion.

      Furthermore, your institutions will be managed by administrators and not doctors of your caliber. Best regards Doc. Please keep up the good work while you can.

    • Andrea Roltgen

      Amen to that! Unfortunately, when Obamacare is running in full stride, it will no longer be a physician caring for his/her patients in a manner of professionalism and assuring their care, cure when possible, comfort and honesty. It will be ruled by death panels and bureaucrats who decide who is to be discarded.

      One of the most amazing blessings of the US in the last century has been it's medical advances..technology to provide some of the greatest medical care in the world. Of course, not without flaws, but it's flaws are largely traced to litigiousness that was built on the shoulders of lawyers like John Edwards. The medical care slowly began eroding as the FDA, the WHO and the CDC began implementing their bureaucratic rule to create dependency on drugs and medical care while eliminating choice. Now we have a nation of drug dependent folks who will be largely denied access to private and professional medical care, by making socialized medicine the ruler of the ill.

    • Barbara

      Terry Schindler was starved to death. She was NEVER on life supports. Her husband was all for therapy to help her until he won the huge settlement and then he denied Terry any form of therapy.

      He so loved his wife he would not divorce her but he was living with his girl friend and had two children with her, while being married.

    • Momcat49

      I have seen photos of Terry's brain CT scans---there was so little brain left that there was no consciousness, no "Terry" there. Hers was a "living death"---and a terrible tragedy for her & her whole family (including her husband). That said---I would not feel right moving on in similar fashion if I were the survivor in similar circumstances. At the same time, to have kept her body going when she had no further use for it makes no sense either---does it? To say that she was "never on life support" is not quite true. Under her circumstances, artificial feeding would count as life-support, since she could not survive without it. She would also have been getting regular turning, & suctioning of oral & tracheal secretions to ward off pneumonia---normal care for severely brain-injured patients. Infection---usually pneumonia---is the most common cause of death, not dehydration or starvation, once care is withdrawn. I cannot emphasize too strongly how much her case reminds us of the importance of having a LIVING WILL &/or durable power of attorney for health care decisions, regardless of your age---AND to make sure your family/significant others KNOW your wishes AND the location of the paperwork AND that your doctor has a copy. Anyone over the age of 14 or 15 should be mature enough to understand & discuss these things. The whole controversy over Terry's care could have been avoided with a simple document

  • duthinker

    Having worked as a Hospice Chaplain, I have watched and sat with people who are dying of natural causes. On some occasions patients died of food and water deprivation by their choice or living wills, or DNR's. It was always greatly troubling to me to observe the patients decline under any circumstances, but especially so under the last. Unfortunately, when great strides to decrease population fail by the world elite other measures are used to "save money" by shortening the life of undesirables whether, old or young. History is replete with genocide, of undesirables, whether it was Hitler or Sadam Hussein. Unfortunately, we are moving once again into the vast darkness of the loss of appreciation for human life and the exaltation of appreciation for all other forms of life.

  • http://twitter.com/dboyerdr Don W Boyer

    The human race has lost most of its humanity. Maybe on 12/22/2012 all humans will get a telepathic message in their own language!! The Message??? You've been a very interesting animal experiment----GOODBYE!!!! And that is the END!!!!!