Could Sarah Palin Enter The 2016 Presidential Race?


The presidential campaign of 2016 was launched as soon as the last light dimmed on the stage after Mitt Romney gave his concession speech, in losing his presidential bid to Barack Obama. With the new battle now warming up amongst the GOP hierarchy there are many Republican leaders who want to point the party leftward, away from Ronald Reagan and his heir apparent Sarah Palin.

That is correct. There is no stuttering here. Sarah Palin may appear to liberals and leftwing pundits, as well as, GOP Washington leaders as yesterday’s news. Yet Mitt Romney’s loss was not due to conservative steel in his campaign. What is clear is that nearly two million conservatives did not embrace Romney’s attempt to skedaddle to the middle road by running away from conservative positions and values. They simply stayed home.

Consider the results of Palin’s steadfast 2012 primary season effort as she crisscrossed the nation campaigning on behalf of conservative congressional, senatorial officials. The results of Palin’s efforts are notable, beginning with backing Texas U.S. Senator-elect Ted Cruz. Combine that with eight congressional candidates being elected to congress out of 14, due to Palin’s endorsement.

Now examine Romney’s results. In a general election where Republicans were expected to be more competitive in U.S. Senate races, Republicans actually lost two U.S. Senate seats. There are many who have engaged in a lot of finger pointing in order to place blame for the loss, but the buck does stop at the top with Mitt Romney.

To refresh everyone’s memory, it was Romney and his Boston campaign brain-trust, who said to Palin back in July, “Thanks but no thanks.” They denied her a prime time speaking role before the GOP National Convention and the nation. Mitt was bound and determined to place both Palin and the Tea Party organization supporters on the sidelines and go it alone to seek more moderate political pastures.

Romney may have listened to comedians like Bill Maher and political pundits like Chris Matthew who found no end in skewering the non-candidate Palin during the campaign year. There is a lesson in Romney’s loss that reminds conservatives that Ronald Reagan was the 1976 version of Sarah Palin. He too had his many detractors, as well as, liberal and Republican pundits who scoffed at Reagan’s notion of a new conservative under current building in America.

With Sarah Palin America should be ready for a true conservative voice in the White House

Ronald Reagan was held at arm’s length by Washington GOP insiders and derided in liberal circles as a joke. Many in the mainstream media poked fun of his film character that played opposite a Chimpanzee in the 1951 “Bedtime for Bonzo” movie. While the Democrats and the Washington insider pundits laughed, Reagan beat President Jimmy Carter with nearly 51 percent of the vote to Carter’s 41 percent in the 1980 presidential election.

Now no one is laughing, including President Barack Obama, who saddles up to Reagan-like comparisons when he’s feeling a little light in the accomplishment department.

It is far more important for Americans, who are earnestly concerned about the direction of the nation and its drift away from conservative values to support a true bona fide conservative leader like Reagan.

Sarah Palin, like Ronald Reagan, understands that presidential elections are won in the grassroots campaign trenches found in Ohio counties and Pennsylvania coal fields. Conservative leadership is nourished in the farmlands of Iowa, Indiana and Illinois and in the kitchens of homes in Nevada and Colorado. Presidential elections are solidified with the commitment of Reagan Democrats in Macomb County, Michigan and Tea Party patriots all over this nation!

It is the power and strength of conservative ideals that, when fully embraced, will see a repeat of the 2010 elections, where the Tea Party grass roots movement resulted in Republicans gaining 63 congressional seats. Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi lost the Speaker’s gavel to Sarah Palin’s tireless effort to create a new conservative history which is still being made in America.

The keys to the White House Oval Office do not lie in the hands of the political power elite in Washington. They instead belong squarely in the firm grasp of Americans in the Heartland. There, with conservative families in states all over this nation, the fate of America will be determined.

In 1980 America no longer wanted to be trapped in what President Carter called a “crisis of confidence,” in his now famous July 1979 “Malaise Speech.” Instead, Reagan determined that America wanted to be freed up from government. He firmly gripped the reins away from moderation and liberalism. He grabbed the American microphone and said, “I paid for this microphone.”

America’s conservatives know full well that Sarah Palin also knows how to use a microphone. Much like, Reagan, Palin is committed to let millions across the nation speak through it in 2016!

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Kevin Fobbs is the former community concerns columnist for 12 years with The Detroit News, covering community, family relations, domestic abuse, education, government relations, education, and dispute resolution. He was government and civic affairs director for Soul Source, a Christian news magazine, and host of The Kevin Fobbs Show. His faith-based Hearken The Watchmen column provides insight and answers on family, faith, and how to arrive at faith-based solutions to life challenges. You may contact Kevin with your comments and questions.
  • kpjlaw

    Palin is not a good choice for president. Have to admit that she is better than Obama, though. Almost anyone would be - lol.

    • http://www.facebook.com/melbarowland Melba Simmons Rowland

      Minnie Mouse, Olive Oil, Raggedy Ann.....any would be better than Obama

  • Okie From Muskogee

    I like Ms. Sarah Palin and she's a great person. She's is simply not Presidential
    "timber" and it would be hard to raise money for her to make a run. She's
    a case of "once bitten, twice shy"..to quote a horseman's aphorism..since
    Ms. Sarah has been snake bitten..enough !

    • http://www.facebook.com/melbarowland Melba Simmons Rowland

      That's not exactly true....Obama bit us once, yet he got re-elected. Besides, unlike many men, women generally Do learn from mistakes and are less likely to keep repeating them over and over while expectiing a different outcome!

  • http://twitter.com/stevor_h steve holmes

    Sure, let's have ANOTHER PUPPET of the Elite. That's all we get put forth, except for Ron Paul, anyhow!

  • http://twitter.com/molcuta molcuta

    The servants God used to judge His people were men—except for one woman. Her name was Deborah.Making Exceptions

    The Bible clearly shows that God uses men to head His Work. But this is not to say that God does not work through women. In fact, He does!

    He conceived His Son, Jesus, through a woman. He works through physical and spiritual Israel, which He calls a woman (Rev. 12). And just as He has done with prophets, such as Elijah, Jeremiah and others, God has worked through prophetesses. A prophet (or prophetess) was a servant whom God inspired to record His messages to the people at large or to certain leaders. Though they sometimes served as counselors to kings, prophets were not executive leaders, per se. They did not lead groups of people—except when they held other roles carrying executive authority.

    Making Exceptions
    The Bible clearly shows that God uses men to head His Work. But this is not to say that God does not work through women. In fact, He does!
    He conceived His Son, Jesus, through a woman. He works through physical and spiritual Israel, which He calls a woman (Rev. 12). And just as He has done with prophets, such as Elijah, Jeremiah and others, God has worked through prophetesses. A prophet (or prophetess) was a servant whom God inspired to record His messages to the people at large or to certain leaders. Though they sometimes served as counselors to kings, prophets were not executive leaders, per se. They did not lead groups of people—except when they held other roles carrying executive authority.

    He conceived His Son, Jesus, through a woman. He works through physical and spiritual Israel, which He calls a woman (Rev. 12). And just as He has done with prophets, such as Elijah, Jeremiah and others, God has worked through prophetesses. A prophet (or prophetess) was a servant whom God inspired to record His messages to the people at large or to certain leaders. Though they sometimes served as counselors to kings, prophets were not executive leaders, per se. They did not lead groups of people—except when they held other roles carrying executive authority.
    http://rcg.org/youth/articles/0402-dtaes.html

  • Gman

    God, I hope not. Why are we even looking or talking about people running in 2016? This is the problem with this party. Every day a knee jerk reaction to any new ignorant crap that comes from the democrats or the liberal media. They are going to blame the GOP about anything anyway. Haven't they learned that yet after all these years? Quit running around screeming the sky is falling. Damn!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Bauer/100000780337244 Wayne Bauer

      They don't just have to BLAME GOP, just get the true facts. The RINOS give the impression, that can't be hidden/.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Clifford-R-Huntley/1429850833 Clifford R Huntley

    I love her to death and have great respect for her. If it
    were just me yes I would put her in without hesitation. But she would not win.
    If she runs and ends up the pick for us we will be handing it over to the dems
    again the same as we have the last 2 times. We have to pick someone who can
    win. Why the Republicans do not get that I will never know. We need a new up
    and coming person who can gain the trust and belief of all. Some one with new
    ideas not the same old things. We as Republican have to rebuild our selves as a
    party. JMO

  • Carmelo Junior

    Sarah could have been the new president elect now but she preferred to be a Fox News commentator. I hope Nikky Haley steps up and makes history. Otherwise the Clintons will be back with the first woman president.

    • http://www.facebook.com/melbarowland Melba Simmons Rowland

      Nikky Haley, is a good woman...not afraid to make hard decisions.

    • Willi

      That last sentence makes me throw up. Almost as bad as when I got up out of bed and heard the last election results. But I guess anything is possible with the Amerikan "walking dead" populace.

  • Oops!

    Palin the "heir apparent" to Reagan? You've got to be kidding me!! Every Democrat in the country would hope for a Palin run in 2016, and no matter which Democrat would run...especially Hillary Clinton...Palin would lose worse than anyone since Goldwater. You betcha!

  • LK

    SURE HOPE SO IN 2016

  • http://www.facebook.com/robertwnielsen Robert Nielsen

    As much as I like Sarah Palin, and respect her points of view, I have to think she's *FINISHED* with politics, at least on the national scale. After what the MSM did to her in '08, does anybody in their right mind REALLY think she'd put herself, and her family, through that again?? I don't.

    Like the old saying goes, when it comes to national politics, you can "stick a fork" in Sarah Palin...'cause she's *done.*

  • HappyClinger

    As Rush pointed out, it probably wasn't a good idea for the repubs to run a candidate who lost the primary to John McCain in 2008.

  • Kukye

    No! We are going backwards. From negro to women, and maybe soon to children. Why don't you nominate Honey Boo Boo?

    We need to put a solid conservative male in the likes of Ronald Reagen who understand America, unafraid of the MSM, liberals or feminist. Who understand their pagan and demonic nature.

    We already see the affect of having feminist man-hating women and the pagan man/child rule U.S.

  • nunya

    If she does, she has my vote

    • http://www.facebook.com/robertwnielsen Robert Nielsen

      nunya, don't hold your breath.

  • Yahoo Bob

    I personally like Sarah, but NEVER want a woman as POTUS! That would only hasten the downfall of the United States Of America.

    • caskinner

      Wow.....I guess you didn't like Margaret Thatcher.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joan-Carson/100000450210052 Joan Carson

      Margaret Thatcher wasn't the downfall of Britian. So far I don't see the men as POTUS doing a great job - i.e. Clinton, Bush, Jimmy Carter...Sarah wouldn;t play politic's or sell us out to the Muslims as the Muslim in the WH is now doing...

    • http://www.facebook.com/melbarowland Melba Simmons Rowland

      like after Obama, we could fall much further.......

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=755638681 Kent Madin

    Oh.. Please please please please please please keep up this delusion drivel about Sarah Palin....

  • noelle2011

    i hope NOT!!!!!!!!
    we do not need this lady to enter!

    • squeak

      We do not need ANY woman to run...we must be wiser & MORE selective in who we want to run this time... I like Sarah but not for president... Cruz from Texas, Rubio ?? Too early to decide !

    • noelle2011

      Hell NO on rubio! HE IS JUST ANOTHER BIG GOVT RINO!
      Just look at the NDAA act of 2012, this is the bill that declares america a "battlefield" and allows for arrest and detainment of Americans WITH OUT TRIAL OR EVEN CHARGE!
      I used to like rubio BUT HE HAS BEEN CORRUPTED BY D.C. LIKE THE REST OF THE NO GOOD CONGRESS!

    • squeak

      Really ?? What makes you think he is corrupted... what makes you think he is big government ? Where do you get your know it all info ? You come across as a know it all & as far as your "HELL NO" was a bit much for you to talk to me in that manner.. from your comments, should not surprise me...I was just throwing names out there, I like Rubio, would have to learn more about him...besides it is a long time away to decide on anyone...weren't you for Paul ????

    • noelle2011

      LOOK IT UP! look up the votes on the ndaa' 12 and the rest of his votes! he votes NOT with the people BUT with mcconnell and the rest! WHY DONT YOU WATCH C-SPAN 2
      YOU AND OTHERS SHOULD NOT LIKE THIS JERK SINCE HE DOES NOT AND PROBABLY WILL NOT VOTE FOR BILLS THAT CUT SPENDING!
      RUBIO IS A POS THAT HAS BEEN BOUGHT BY AIPAC AND THINKS WE HAVE A "OBLIGATION" TO BE INVOLVED IN THE WORLD AND THE AFFAIRS OF OTHER NATIONS:WE DO NOT!
      yes I was for ron paul! SO WHAT! RUBIO IS NOT WHAT AMERICAN PEOPLE THINK AND REALLY NEED TO WATCH HOW THIS JERK VOTES!
      NEVER would i vote for rubio! nothing but a traitor after he voted more than once on the ndaa act! HE SHOULD HAVE VOTED NO!

    • squeak

      Why don't you go straight to " you know where " ?? A Liberal ??? I'll watch what I want, I DO NOT need an airhead such as you to educate me... I notice you did not respond to my question, weren't you a Paulbot ?? That tells me a lot ! You should really watch how you come across to people, not too much Finesse for A Woman, { you notice, I did not classify you as a LADY } tough cookie is more like it !!

    • http://www.facebook.com/melbarowland Melba Simmons Rowland

      a woman is exactly what we need,,,and Sarah is a breath of fresh air!

    • Caribou "QUIT" Barbie™

      That's what you guys said 5 years ago.
      She lost.

  • BobM001

    As much as I like Sarah Palin as a fine upstanding citizen I feel that McCain's choice for her as his running mate GAVE US Barack Obama. It was a BAD MOVE!!!! I also feel that even though her values are aligned with mine, she is not "presidential material". Her advocacy is MORE important than holding office.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joan-Carson/100000450210052 Joan Carson

      McCain and the GOP gave us Obama - Remember it was the GOP who gave us Dole; McCain and Rommey (who would have been better than what we have now - anyone would!) Sarah wasn't running...instead people voted for a black skin and no experience whatsoever - Sarah had a great deal of experience -

    • http://www.facebook.com/gordon.gekko.142 Gekko Gordon

      Yeah right... and the same was said of the Bedtime for Bonzo actor Ronald Reagan

    • http://www.facebook.com/melbarowland Melba Simmons Rowland

      What better presidential material than an advocate for the American people?

  • J J

    There may not be anything left for Sarah to save by then.

    • Nadine

      OH GOD...Pray that's not so, and be prepared for that slim of a man to try for DICTATORSHIP...he wants to destroy our constitution & go a third term...be ready for WAR!

    • sonny

      I think that (WAR) is what it's going to take to get rid of obama. Remember, we have to get rid of the fools that put him there or nothing is going to change.
      I

    • Nadine

      You may be correct...unfortunately!! NEVER thought I'd see this country on the brink of distruction!

  • Andrea Roltgen

    As quite the "right winger" over here, I agree with many of Sarah Palin's conservative views, and unlike Romney, her record to prove it.

    However, I will never vote for a woman for the office of Presidency. I am not sure how many/if any, will have the same issue, but I do not see that biblically aligned in God's instruction for selecting a civil magistrate.

    I do not see it as a positive move to have a woman as the chief of our military. I think the best way for us to confront Islamic terrorists and their nations, is not to put a woman; and one that has been fairly "Hollywood-ized" at that.

    Again, this is nothing against Palin or her policies, and perhaps it is not a concern for many others...just my take. There are no women, no matter what their political policy, that I would vote for.

    What would really be a sure bet, would be for the GOP to stop moving to the left-as the left already has a party, and the right is the one left alone without representation in Congress or with Presidential candidates. It would be a sure bet to support a man of character, conviction and a true conservative track record. It would be a sure bet to rally around a candidate with the core values of what Conservatism means..or what it once did.

    • PYPYPY

      I was very disappointed that Gov Palin did not go out of her way to campaign for GOv Romney. With her big support from grassroots, she should have done her utmost best to get these people out to vote. It appears that she didnt and we now have 4 more years of BO! No I would not vote for her

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joan-Carson/100000450210052 Joan Carson

      She did when asked by reporters - however she was not invited by the Romney campaign or invited to speak at the convention. How shallow we are...or just plain uniformed.

    • http://www.facebook.com/william.melvin.169 William Melvin

      Palin was poison as far as the Romney people were concerned. She was as much as "un-invited" to the GOP convention, so why would you think they would want her on the campaign trail?

    • http://www.facebook.com/healthnut1 Fernande M Rivers

      In case you don't know....and you should...the GOP gave her the cold shoulder....refused to let her speak at the Convention....what happened?...Fatso Christi spoke for himself....not for Romney....Mitt Romney made the fatal choice of not letting the Tea Party Patriots in and then lost anyway...2010 was a big year for the Republicans....thanks to Sarah Palin...

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Bauer/100000780337244 Wayne Bauer

      TEA party needs to get vocal, needs to grow nees to form true conservative party.

    • PYPYPY

      GOv Palin isnt exactly a shrinking violet and she didnt exactly endorse Romney after he won. She often said she has thick skin and if she is so passionate and feels that 4more yrs of BO would be disastrous she shd have campaign hard for grassroots support. FYI, I will not vote for Christie in the next primary either, not after how he praised BO!! it was OTT!

    • http://twitter.com/laforetmary Mary Laforet

      Well if I had the same rejection from Romney, I don't think I'd be too keen on him either.....She did however address the Conservatives when they met to debate in Washington in the primaries (Romney, Santorum and Gingrich) so I'm not sure I'd blame Romney's loss on her...which it sounds like you're doing...

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Bauer/100000780337244 Wayne Bauer

      She couldn't alter principles to support the corrupt elite party heads and same old conglomerate of dc politicians. You don't recognize honesty and truth when she speaks?

    • barracuda43

      Romney shunned her from the convention. Never asked her or Paul for help!

    • Benedict Joyce

      How can you support someone, since day one was already plotting to destroy her. Romney made sure that he will be the next nominee, not Sarah Palin. Thank God she did support him.

    • frank907

      The Romney campaign probably refused her offer.

    • oldcoyote

      I am as Conservative as they come but I would vote for Elmer Fudd before I voted for something as DASP. Might as well vote for NUTTYAHOO as another shill like she would be.

    • http://twitter.com/molcuta molcuta

      Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

    • Andrea Roltgen

      But this does not mean women should rule over men, lead them, etc. Again, my comment reflected that I didn't expect others to agree with me.

      To the above comment, no I do not believe women should fight in the military.

    • Tricia65

      My retired long tabbed hubby and long tabbed son would disagree with
      ya ;)

    • Old_Gringo

      I agree with your last sentence but strongly disagree with the former.

    • BobM001

      Tell THAT to the women of the IDF!

    • okihadit

      but then do you believe that women should not in the military? i for one, don't think that women should be in the military, behind the lines at the desk, yes, in front and fighting , no, and i am a women. the only thing, i think that a women, like Sarah could take control and do it very well. why not, take a chance we did with a muslim black man, now try a women, christian, loves this country and will protect it's people from the evil that is all around us.

    • sonny

      okihadit: You show a lot of common sense. Something many people lack altogether. They had rather see obozo ruin this country than vote for a woman.
      That is complete stupidity.

    • http://twitter.com/Justce4All Alexandra Mark

      Excuse me, but I thought that kind of thinking went out in the 1900's! Godspeed, Sarah; you' are what the doctor ordered to save this sinking Republic.. And don't worry, Ms. Roltgen, fortunately Sarah won't miss your one vote!

    • Andrea Roltgen

      I'm a Mrs, not a Ms. :) I don't want that feminist badge of honor. :)

      God Bless you and I'm sure she will not miss my vote one bit :)

    • http://www.facebook.com/melbarowland Melba Simmons Rowland

      Are you sexist or what? You have a problem with a legal citizen who is female being President, but you are okay with a Muslim male who may not be a legal citizen holding that office? Besides, I bet a woman can balance the budget You need to rethink your reasoniing!

    • Captain America

      Wow! I couldn't get past your first statement! My God gave all his children the ability to lead! All they have to do is apply themselves. A good woman is better than a poor man! Obama is a good husband and a good farther. I can see from the clips i have seen of him with his daughters and its obvious he loves them to death. I do applaud that but he is a philosophical / political nightmare. He is a statist [a combo of all the different types of statism]. I vote based on policy and the records of executing those policies!

    • oliver

      most women would be to soft to hold that job some one tell them they are pertty and they would sell there sole

    • Old_Gringo

      And what "sole" would that be Oliver, shoe or fish? Or did you mean to say soul? I am just "funnin'" with you so please don't take umbrage at what I said.

    • Old_Gringo

      Andrea would you not agree that the "Iron Lady", Margaret Thatcher, did a magnificent job of running Great Britain during her tenure as the P.M.? She and Pres. Reagan were of the same philosophies and Reagan admired her immensely, both as a person and as the P.M.

    • Ruth

      Old Gringo, I was just waiting for someone to compare Sarah Palin to the other great Prime Ministers, Margaret Thatcher and Golda Meier...And Sarah Palin would be as GOOD as these, But I feel far Better and Stronger, Because she has the Power of the Living God behind her ! On the Fox Greta Van Susterun show the night before the election she quoted the scripture, II Chronicles 7:14 as the solution for this countrys problems, and until we seek the Lord, Nothing in this country will change....The truth behind Sarah Palin NOT being invited to speak at GOP convention...Is that they knew that she had NEVER nor could she EVER get up to a microphone and hipocritically endorse Mitt Romney for president, When itwould be going against what she as a TRUE Evangelical Christian believes in, as Romney is a Mormon.To do so would have lost her the support of the True Non-compromizing Evangelical Christian and the True Conservative branch of the Tea Party, which will NOW ALL continue to back her, unlike Gingrich and Santorum who through in the towel behind Romney.....If we still have a Republic in 2016, and Obama hasn't , with another Executive Order declared himself Dictator, or the Lord Jesus Christ hasn't returned...Then Palin should run on a NEW Conservative Party with a VP like Allen West, Rand Paul or my Govenor John Kasich of Ohio, who is doing a fabulous job turning our state around, as he did the United States...It was Kasich's plan that Clinton ans Gingrich used to balance the federal budget....Go Sarah Palin 2016 !

    • Old_Gringo

      Romney's Mormonism posed no problem for me. Mormons DO believe, very strongly, in Jesus Christ. Hence the name, The Latter Day Saints of Jesus Christ. The only thing I have a problem with is the founder of the Church, Joseph Smith. Other than that I Find many things about Mormons that should be emulated.

    • panors77

      Two words.....Maggie Thatcher. Despite her stoopid poll tax she unfortunately instituted, which is something totally out of character for a conservative, she helped pull the UK from their fiscal cliff. Back in the 80's cities like Liverpool had over 28% unemployment, but Thatchers re-investment schemes of helping with loans to new business helped pull them from the brink.

    • frank907

      I think that you should go read a little about Margaret Thatcher. She was a better wartime leader than most men could ever be. Leadership is not related to how one is plumbed. You also would benefit with a little research on the early Christian Church. Without leadership from women, even in that place and time, it would have been difficult to say the least. I believe that God loves women too. And lastly, I would observe that Jesus was a Jew. Let's not leave our Jewish bretheren out in the cold.

    • sonny

      Andrea, so you'd rather see a dictator ruin this country than vote for a woman??
      I'm glad others have more sense than you display.

  • A. Levy

    One of the main reasons the Demoncrats, the MSM, and the rest of the Left spent so much time and effort demonizing Sarah Palin was to make sure she never got anywhere near the Oval Office. That would be their worst nightmare come true. If you've studied the Left and their tactics, you know they always save their most vicious attacks for those they fear the most. And that's Palin!
    It's also why they hardly bothered attacking Romeny during the Republican primary. In fact, many Demoncrats were actually saying he should be the one chosen! They knew he was the weakest of the bunch, making the outcome of the election a forgone conclusion. And, they were right.
    If people who truly love this country had some actual voice in what happens, (they do not) Sarah Palin would be our president. She has the brains, the ability, the experience, the honesty, and the love of this country to make a great one. But what the Left fears most, is that she has "the balls", and that separates her, and puts her above any other Republican!

    • View_From_Here

      Well, it should be interesting. But remember, she won't be running against President Obama next time, but most likely some strong, smart women candidates from both parties. As Sarah said herself (in her 2008 V.P. Introductory speech), Hilary cracked that glass ceiling into millions of pieces when she announced her own Presidential campaign. Sarah had the ultimate word on tossing her hat into the ring this last time, not you or her supporters, and the family voted and chose not to do so.

    • http://www.facebook.com/robertwnielsen Robert Nielsen

      And that's why I say I think she's *finished* with national politics. I really don't think her family wants to go through that kind of humiliation again.

    • http://www.facebook.com/msbarkhurst Mark S. Barkhurst

      When Sarah only has around a 30% approval rating in Alaska, she's done.

    • Susy

      She had over 70 until Obama and the progressives (and a lot of Republicans) finished her. Lies. No one seems to worry about any lies they tell any more. No scruples at all.

    • http://www.facebook.com/gailnowaczyk Gail Nowaczyk

      Susy you say that Palin has lied. Well I think that is rather funny. Why??? Because it has been proven that Barry is a complusive Lier. He is incapable of ever telling the truth.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Ryan/100001461050837 John Ryan

      Gail, Susy was referring to the progressives lying about Sarah Palin not saying Sarah had lied.

    • http://www.facebook.com/msbarkhurst Mark S. Barkhurst

      Please, tell us what he's lied about and use his own words, not those from any second hand source. Once you've quoted his lie, tell us why it's a lie using facts, not your opinion.

      My guess is we'll never hear your response to back up your claim.

    • http://www.facebook.com/msbarkhurst Mark S. Barkhurst

      She caused her own downfall, particularly after her first two national interviews. At that point the public realized how woefully unqualified and ignorant she was to serve in any capacity. She even had to hire a city manager to run Wassilla full time since she was obviously incapable or too lazy to full fill her capacity as mayor. We all know how poorly she did as governing once the voters realized how poorly she was doing. Todd governer as much as she did, with her coming in late and going home early.

    • http://www.facebook.com/msbarkhurst Mark S. Barkhurst

      See my reply to Gail below and do the same and quote a lie he has said using his own words, and why it's a lie. I also don't believe you'll respond back and back your words.

    • barracuda43

      HIghest approval rating ever for a govenor. 93%

    • http://www.facebook.com/msbarkhurst Mark S. Barkhurst

      That's been over 6 years ago and doesn't represent where she is today.

    • idesign2

      It now up to 56%....

    • Caribou "QUIT" Barbie™

      Proof please.

    • Edward53

      Prove otherwise!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/msbarkhurst Mark S. Barkhurst

      Please provide the source of your information.

    • sonny

      Can you blame her?? If I was her, I would not even WANT to be president
      over a bunch of stupid, lazy, classless boneheads that have made it very plain (stupidity and ignorance) that they don't want her.

    • http://www.facebook.com/robertwnielsen Robert Nielsen

      sonny,

      Nope...don't blame her in the slightest. :)

    • ginger

      Don't be so sure she wouldn't be running against obama...he has plans and will not give up the office so easily...remember this in four years,,,he is setting it up now and will run with it for the next four years...ya ain't seen nothin" yet.

    • Nadine

      I AGREE! She'll come loaded for Bear...Go Momma Grizzley!!

    • ginger

      she has more integrity and grit and honor than the wimpy men in the government now.

    • Paul Brown

      Ginger, you are so right, I would be proud to salute her and call her our Commander-in-Chief, The Real President of the United States. I said the best man for the job this year would have been a woman and I would love to see her win, Sarak Palin has more brains in her little finger than odummmer has in his entire body. Sarah has the brains she has the family values this country needs and she does love this country as much as I did before. Besides all that, she has the beauty that obummmer and that monkey puss lacks!

    • 44rd11

      Obama is MUCH smarter - and he is achieving his goals - one step at at time. He has now marginalized the Republicans and it is doubtful they will ever recover.

    • Gram

      Yes. He is achieving his goals. His goals are to take this Country down to a 3rd world country and let the UN control it like it does all the other countries. Just look at the mess the other countries are in now. Killing people within their country. We are the only country with Sovereign States that make up the Union (Country). Besides that, we have a Republic country, we rule by democracy. We Have FREEDOMS. We have
      UNALIENABLE RIGHTS given to us by Our Creator not government. That is something that government cannot take from us. The government can only give Inalienable Rights which can also be taken from us by them.

    • rosech

      Obama is not smart. Prove it if you can with his school records, which he has hidden. This means, as a past teacher, he did nothing of value and probably never attended or got super poor grades. He did nothing positive in college and people don't even remember him because he was such a non-entity. He has been cultured like a virus for America's takeover. What he is too stupid to understand that once he is no longer of use, he will just "disappear" as did so many in communist countries, Russia in particular! He and the frump are just puppets. She actually did get an education on our dollars and is a lot smarter than, but according to Rev. Wright she was selected to marry the homo in order for him to appear as a man. No wonder she never kisses him in public. I wouldn't either because lordie knows where that mouth has been. Rev. Wright took the most homely women who were not married to marry these men and she was promised a lot of money, etc. Not enough, however, as she likes wasting our money on her outrageously expensive vacations! and then lies about the expenses and staff. Gee, neither one can tell the truth. Frump has been a staunch communist for most of her life and you can tell she tells him what to do or not. What a pair. They have embarrassed us abroad (when I travel, they laugh at our stupidity for him), has no street cred except the ignorant and those who think he provides their freebies. Once the taxes stop rolling in, they will be with their hands out but nothing going in them. Been there, done that in other countries and don't like what has happened to America.

    • Susan

      Obama was head of Harvard law review..he was elected by a group of the most competive men/women anywhere". You can't be stupid and run the Harvard law review. Did Romney show his college records. He went to Harvard law also. It not Pres of LR. Now Obama is black which might cause some of yiu concern but stupid, no.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Ryan/100001461050837 John Ryan

      Susan, Obama was a C student. He was elected head of the Harvard Law Review because he is black. He never authored a single article while he was head of the law review. Try to prove me wrong. You can't because Obama has hidden away all of his college records.

    • expect

      What i dont get is martin luther king said its not the color of a mans skin but the content of his character

    • expect

      he is empowered by Satan and big money

    • sonny

      Paul, You're right on BUT the people are too stupid to let that happen.
      They have proven that TWICE now. I also would be proud to have her for president.

    • PatrioTEA

      Everybody under estimates Barry's "inteligence." He's really quite smart, just like Ghengus Kahn, HItler, Marx, & Stalin were. With the help of Soros, OWG's, & the Progressives, he has hoodwinked the American public to steal not 1, but 2 elections. Even if he didn't "build it himself," that takes cunning smarts. Don't underestimate that, or his seeming unlimited capacity for evil.

    • bgsnowski

      He is stupid smart, he allows himself to be the puppet for his team!
      He didn't get ware he is without his world class backers. GS...

    • caskinner

      He is a puppet. This has all been orchestrated by you know who. Bambam just does what he is told. He just likes to go play.

    • ginger

      I am really scared that since obama has scammed his way into the White House and the Congress knows it that the harm has been done and may not be reversed.

    • PatrioTEA

      Or any of the Repubs who ran this time (in the Primary;) & I liked & voted for one of them.

    • ginger

      I am keeping track of the Repubs who say one thing and then vote another..and will support those of honor and integrity,

    • http://www.facebook.com/melbarowland Melba Simmons Rowland

      Of course, we are all assuming there will even be any type of elections in 4 years.......as for me, I doubt there will be.

    • ginger

      unfortunately, I feel the same .

    • http://www.facebook.com/gailnowaczyk Gail Nowaczyk

      Melba Simmons Rowland, Barry has already said he will run again in 2016 and he Will Win again, (he thinks). But as lons as the lazy Americans are willing to let him buy them off with free monthly pills for women, free phones, free this, and free thathe probably will win again. Oh also forgot the dead people and animals who are voting for him.

    • Lee Baldwin

      or the election will be as crooked as this last farce/fraud was. EVERYBODY needs to research for yourselves the % of REGISTERED VOTERS that voted in each of the 'battleground' states' counties. Then We ALL need to contact our Congresspersons to make sure THAT doesn't happen agaiin EVER. ~God Bless America, the land the used to be free.

    • Remington 870

      You got it ginger. Obama and his communist group want to end free elections and make Obama dictator. Too many morons in our country want communism, but just can't say the word communism..much less able to spell it. Something is going to have to happen to change this communist direction our country is headed.

    • pat78

      No, I think they are grooming either of the Castro twins and possibly even Deval Patrick--all articulate, good looking minority candidates.

    • Paul Brown

      Unfortunately you are so right Remington, they are talking about a third term for the worse muslim islamic pig thief this once great nation has ever seen. We have got to come up with some way to stop this pig or we are going to have another Russia, where everyone works for the Gov. and then they have to stand on line for days to tey and get some food for another month and every dollar you make goes to the Gov. or it'll be like Iran and the women will wear a scarf over their faces so you can't see who she is or what she looks like and men will be wearing pajamas and a long robes. These people have got to wake up in this country or they will be selling us down the river to the muslim islamic pigs.

    • 44rd11

      YOU have no clue about Iran or it's women. They are NOT under sharia law. their women often go without even a hijab - which is just a head scarf.

    • Xango

      Really!!!!!guess the students in the university that were interviewed in a recent travel documentary, were confused about what they were wearing to cover their heads!!! Try something else...

    • Jane

      You are one of the saddest cases of totally delusional people I've ever encountered. I feel very sorry for you. Please seek help. The world is not this bad, really.

    • Edward53

      By any chance are you the famous Hanoi Jane? You sure sound like her.

    • ginger

      too true.

    • davienne

      dont be so sure about that... he's looking at a 3rd term.... never mind the constitution.. he has never abided by it .. he has 4 years to make any amendment he wants , by EOs ... because no one will stand up to this dictator... WE ARE IN BIG TROUBLE ...FOLKS

    • panors77

      3rd, 4th, 10th......

    • ginger

      I agree...and what can we do about it when most of America is ignorant of the Constitution and could not care less...all the indoctrinated masses are electing the very ones who will destroy us.?

    • nofreebies4u

      If Obama tries to stay in longer than the end of his 2nd term it will be to finalize a dictatorship and scrap the remaining shreds of the Constitution. That would be a major miscalculation and very unwise.

    • Texana

      Everyone in Congress will agree obama should continue for a third term due to the crisis in the Country...(created by obama and team. I don't know what it will be; but there will be one).

    • Gram

      Sorry but we are already under a Dictatorship. Just listen to how they are talking about the leader of Egypt now. Saying with all those things he is doing and power grabs, he is a Dictator. Well, now don't we just have the same operation going on here in United States of America by this present president?

    • ginger

      problem is that the American sheeple won't lift a finger to stop it...they are too used to the freebies and wanting something for nothing and won't figure it out until no one can stop it...obama wants to be like North Korea and wants the cult of obama to prevail.

    • 44rd11

      IF Obama "runs again" the Constitution will be a dead document.

    • ginger

      why more people don't care distrubs me  ....and we will be like Rome...rotten from within.

    • sonny

      I agree completely. Obama has NO intention of leaving in 2016 He wants to be a dictator and people like Ron are cheering him on. Be prepared for a DICTATORSHIP by then b/c that is obamas intention. It was in 08 when he was elected the first time.

    • ginger

      the American sheeple don't seem to get this or to care..that is why they are so easily led down the path to destruction.

    • expect

      your right dont put nothing pass this guy

    • http://www.facebook.com/fk2dickie Richard Allen

      it will be a cakewalk if she ran, we are talking about twelve years of Democrats in the Oval Office.

    • sonny

      And look where we are after 4 years of obozo. Do these boneheads actually think another 4 is going to be any better?? If they do then they really ARE smoking dope.

    • Uncle Sam

      Is this a joke? Are you serious? I hope she runs on the Tea Party ticket with Howdy Doody as her campaign adviser.

    • idesign2

      You sound more like Uncle establishment RINO....

    • Caribou "QUIT" Barbie™

      And you sound like a c4p groupie.

    • sonny

      Uncle Sam: People like you are the very reason I hope we have a WAR
      in this country. I'd love to get you in my sights. And this is NOT A JOKE!!!!

    • panors77

      Yeah......I agree with Ginger. We have a big fight on our hands to even HAVE any kind of "Election" again after this one. BO is setting himself up for life.

    • sonny

      That was his intention in 08 and the people cheered him on and are still doing it.

    • 44rd11

      BS, Hillary wasn't the first woman candidate for Pres You do have to look through the whole page - but she was far from the first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_United_States_presidential_and_vice-presidential_candidates

    • PatrioTEA

      Unless Obama goes leader of One World, allowing Hillary her "due", the 'Bummer will be running again, and again, and again, ....each time getting more votes until he gets them all!

    • expect

      im moving too texas

    • /.murphy

      Based on her performance in the series of interviews she did with major networks, Sarah Palin coming anywhere near the Oval Office should be everyone's worst nightmare. She simply doesn't have the gravitas to hold that office, and she made that plain for all to see. I'm sure she has value somewhere, just not in the White House.

    • mtmountainman

      She's more qualified and more experienced than the fraud we are stuck with now. But Sarah would have to fight the left, the media and the Republican mainstream party. I love her guts and tenacity, just don't know if anyone couldn't overcome the conspiracy to keep her out.

    • oliver

      only thing is its all about money if things keep going like they have the last two elections it will take a trillion dollars next time to buy it. only one I know that could raise that kind of cash is o-butt-hole. for he would gice tax money out then his thugs would give it back. and throw in all the muslim's and he would have his trillion. its not about the person that could- and would do the job its how much you can spend..

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Bauer/100000780337244 Wayne Bauer

      Wouldn't it be great if elections were based on principles, thought, phylosophies and less about the money you can steal.

    • sonny

      We used to have elections like that. Greed and immorality is going to be the downfall of this country. Example: how many votes were bought
      (cellphones and other bribery) in this past election? How many votes did Harry Reid buy in Nev.??

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Bauer/100000780337244 Wayne Bauer

      Ideally she will have a CONSERVATIVE third party, made up of solid conservatives. After everyone sees the huge republican LOSS in2014 they might wake up and realize they need to change. The two corrupt parties play fantasy politics for the short sighted.

    • King James

      Wayne Bauer, once a communist dictator moves into power, they don't leave when the next election rolls around. Their "apparatus" will have moved into position before the next scheduled election.

    • Carmelo Junior

      Barack Obama nor Marco Rubio has any gravitas you sexist

    • Tricia65

      Why would anyone put Rubio in the same shameful category as Obama?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Bauer/100000780337244 Wayne Bauer

      ONE reason they're both illegal to hold office of president.

    • BobM001

      DING DING DING DING! We have a WINNER! Wayne has just won the "Natural Born Citizen" prize! Nice to see somebody knows the Constitution.

    • okihadit

      what, are you nuts? yep i thought so. what in the world did obuma have coming into the oval office, he had nothing but thugs pushing him to try to destroy this country from with-in, and he is doing just that. dang, wake up you fools, wake up! Sarah has more experance then obuma has up his a--! obuma hates this country, he'll do what ever it takes to take us down!

    • oliver

      She could do A hell of a lot BETTER job than oboseo has. he even had to have a meeting with Mitt today to try to get Mitt to tell him how to get some jobs started...and I hope Mitt did not fall for it or just give him the run ariund like obose gives us on every thing.

    • /.murphy

      She would need to convince a whole lot of people of that--mostly those who listened to her statements the first time around.

    • http://www.facebook.com/melbarowland Melba Simmons Rowland

      She is more than qualiied... she has bigger balls than anyone who has been there in years .....and she will have had 8 years to work out the kinks! Go Sarah!

    • Ladybug

      T'would be fun to watch her make you eat your words...

    • frank907

      Based on her performance in the series of interviews???? That was not Sarah Palin. That was the candidate for VP regurgitating the party line of John McCain. I don't know about you but I have a very difficult time trying to advocate a position that I don't personally believe. I suspect the same was true of her. If the people who were managing that campaign had simply said, " Go get 'em Sarah!" it might have had a different outcome.

    • /.murphy

      It was her ability to think on her feet and her knowledge of the world and international events that I found unimpressive. I can only go on what she has to say, and I've heard things that really make me scratch my head.

    • /.murphy

      I particularly liked this one: "But obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies." --Sarah Palin, after being asked how she would handle the current hostilities between the two Koreas, interview on Glenn Beck's radio show, Nov. 24, 2010.

      Is that the "go-get-'em Sarah" you had in mind? Or maybe it was the one who belched out this deep thought:

      "We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn't that ironic?" --Sarah Palin, admitting that her family used to get treatment in Canada's single-payer health care system, despite having attempted to demonize such government-run programs as "socialized medicine" that will lead to rationing by death panels, March 6, 2010.

    • frank907

      That would rather be like going to all the 57 states wouldn't it?
      As for Canadian medicine, There is no hospital in Canada closer than Whitehorse, Y.T. which is a 14 hour drive from Wasilla, Alaska. It is a small hospital that has minor services. For anything major they get sent to Vancouver or other major hospitals. A friend who lives in Whitehorse was referred to an oncologist and the earliest appointment available was a wait of 6 months. He opted to fly to Seattle and go to Virginia Mason and pay out of pocket. Had he not he would likely not survived. That was 6 years ago and he is still with us. I find it difficult to believe Gov. Palin said that but have better things to do than go on a search looking for it. Oh, since Todd Palin is Alaskan Native, he and his family would be eligible to recieve health care at the Alaska Native Medical Center At Anchorage, Alaska which is managed by the Federal Gov't, but since he was employed on the north slope he would have had benefits from his employers heath care program there for himself and his family. Also, since Gov Palin was a city and state official she would have had coverage for her and her family through the State of Alaska Public Employees System, and while she was with her Mom And Dad her Dad and family would have been covered under the State of Alaska Teachers system. I'm not sure I see why they would find a need to go to Canada for care. The go get em Sarah I was thinking of is the one who would ask why we had a candidate, and now president, who hides his background behind court orders.

    • /.murphy

      Can you name a single one of those "court orders" that "hides" the President's background? If something exists, it is discoverable. Where is it?

    • frank907

      http://bigstory.ap.org/article/trump-offers-5-million-if-obama-releases-records
      I could look the orders up if I wanted to waste the time. However, here is a news story on the subject. The Donald is curious too!

    • /.murphy

      We all knew that would be your answer. It's like saying "I had my homeowkr done, but the dog ate it." The link you provided has nothing to do with your so-called "orders." They don't exist; otherwise, it would be quite easy to provide a link to the orginal documentation.

    • /.murphy

      Sounds like you and Sarah are going to stand "with our North Korean allies," as Sarah says. The rest of us are aware of who are allies are, and we're going to stick with them. Don't feel bad if we don't follow you guys to Pyongyang.

    • sonny

      Murphy, that is exactly the kind of stupid thinking that put obama up there.
      You want to pick everybody else to pieces.

    • /.murphy

      Did you have a point to make?

    • caskinner

      I agree....Palin is a leader but I am not sure she could win. After 4 more years of the fraud in the White House people just might go for Palin though.

    • barracuda43

      She can win! She will win. Palin 2016. Nothing Less!

    • fryer01

      EVERYTHING SHE SAID WOULD HAPPEN WITH OBAMA DID...SHE IS ALOT SMARTER THAN YOU THINK!!!!!!

    • sonny

      She is very intelligent BUT she can't fix stupid. That is what elected obama, TWICE.

    • fryer01

      WHAT ELECTED THE MONSTER IS FRAUD...AND STUPID PEOPLE!!!! wait till you see what HE does...you will be shocked...by now with sarah...we would have NO deficit...plenty of jobs...gas prices down to $2.00...and a good outlook on life....take a look around......you 'll never see that with this clown !!!!!

    • caskinner

      And we would be drilling for our own oil instead of buying from our enemies.

    • Dissenter

      What part of "we can't drill our way out of this" do you not understand?

    • MyronJPoltroonian

      Umm, could you please explain just why, exactly, with strong conservative leadership cutting the strings of the regulatory stranglehold the federal (and some states, i.e.: like Calipornia) behemoth bureaucracy has on energy extraction, development and refining in this country we couldn't? She could issue sweeping executive orders too, just like BrObama, but for the betterment of the United States of America, not the Socialist State called Amerika.

    • Dissenter

      Three words: Not enough oil. According to the WaPo, which tends to get its facts right, we're the largest exporter of fuel, and it is our largest export.

      Nothing we can do will materially impact the world market for petroleum, even if we drill to the point where there is nothing left of America but the core.

    • MyronJPoltroonian

      Three words, indeed: Bakken Shale Deposits. (And, we import refined gasoline because we haven't built a new refinery since the '70's.)

    • Dissenter

      According to the WaPo, we actually export a lot of it. We have plenty of refinery capacity for our domestic needs.

      Saudi reserves are estimated at about 300 bn barrels; the Bakken formation reserve was estimated, according to the state of ND, at 2-3 bn recoverable barrels. Why am I supposed to be impressed?

    • Old_Gringo

      You appear to be an avid reader/supporter of WaPo so I would assume you get all your electronic news from MSNBC.

    • Dissenter

      As opposed to you, who performs fellatio on Drugs Limpballs to get all of yours? The Times, WaPo, and Globe are about the only newspapers with the resources to do original reporting, so they are relatively good on facts. That having been said, I gather news from the Weakly Double-Standard and Boudoir, and pretty much everywhere in between. I used to get a lot from Breitbart, before F*ckwit Carlson and his gang engaged in viewpoint-based censorship.

    • TheBigGeezer

      America has enough oil to provide our current usage for more than 200 years... at the pump gas prices should be around $2.00 per gallon... just imagine what that would do for families, businesses and our economy! And, we have the worlds largest supply of coal and natural gas... we ARE energy independent... it's just that our leaders and especially obama doesn't have the courage to do what is right for our citizens and our country... they'd rather give hundreds of billions of our dollars to our enemy's... and watch the environmental nazis smile!

    • Dissenter

      Sez who? No one who doesn't have a dog in the hunt is saying anything as daft as that. Tell you what: Can we dump all of our coal sludge on your property? Oil and gas extraction comes with environmental costs, and as long as your water and only your water could be ignited at the tap, and I didn't have to pay for your increased health costs, I'd be down with it....

    • ProudAmerican247

      STOP with the "Environmental" BS. Coal plants burn clean coal responsibly. Coal ash is used in paving our roads but let's go back to "dusty trails" shall we?

    • Dissenter

      "Environmental BS?" I kind-of like clean air, and can't abide flammable water. One can only hope that you were in the path of Hurricane Exxon-- er, I mean, Sandy, or will be in the near future. You would deserve it.

    • Dissenter

      "Calipornia?" "Amerika?" Aren't you the same Myron who busted off this gem: ""Dæmonize" willy nilly anything you don't like by impugning, belittling and poking derisive fun at whatever you fear will prove your world view delusional."

      Methinks you have described yourself quite well.

    • DCW16

      So you think we can "Tax" out way out?

    • Dissenter

      Depends on how aggressive you wanted to be. The bottom line is that in the long run, we have to be prepared to pay for the services government provides.

      If you imposed a graduated national property tax, along the lines of the one envisioned by Thomas Jefferson, you would be able to raise revenue without materially reducing consumption. The CBO has run the numbers, and has shown that tax cuts for the wealthy do not create jobs or revenue for the government, and I'll trust their numbers.

      We are suffering a revenue drought; Obama's spending increase rate is the lowest in the past 50 years. Comparatively, Reagan and the Bushes spent like drunken sailors. Increased domestic economic activity means more revenue; we would do well to reinstate the tariff regime advanced by Alexander Hamilton and signed into law by George Washington.

      If we reduced per capita oil consumption by raising the price of gasoline to $6/gallon (what it costs in Australia), it would reduce our imports by about 30%. Also, nationalizing our health care system would save as much as 8% of GDP, which means more money in the pockets of the average man. We could fix this problem if you would stop being more faithful to your dogma than your wives, and start thinking outside of the box.

    • DCW16

      "Obama's spending increase rate is the lowest in the past 50 years."
      Six Trillion and they don't know where much of it went . . . that is an Insane Statement.
      Federal Property Tax? Another dopy idea . . . unless - only property tax payers get to vote !
      Check out how well tax increases for the wealthy worked in Britain and France . . . revenue decreased and many left for greener pastures, just as they are doing in California TODAY ! ! !
      What year was the MOST Income tax collected? 2007 the last Bush budget . . . when the deficit was only 160 BILLION . . . then the dimmicraps took over . . . and its been downhill all the way . . .
      America has a SPENDING PROBLEM . . . and the O is the biggest spender EVER ! ! ! If he gets his way . . . the DEBT will pass 20 TRILLION in the next 4 years . . . that is the NO RECOVER ZONE ! ! !
      This is leftist Insanity . . .

    • Dissenter

      A CPA, you obviously are not.

      Where are the wealthy going to go? Australia? France? Italy? Higher taxes there. While you have probably never left Alabama, having a US passport can be quite valuable while abroad.

      The CBO estimates that by 2019, 60% of the deficit will be attributable to the Bush tax cuts. And you blame Obama?

    • DCW16

      Where are the wealthy going to go? How about Alberta Canada, no. 3 on the freedom list just this week. No Provincial income tax and corporate tax 15% . . .
      The Bush tax cuts raised the most income taxes ever collected in 2007 . . . check it out.
      Anyone who thinks raising taxes is the answer is terminally stooopid . . . if the rich were taxed 100% it would only last the federal govt a couple of months . . . and the MASSIVE 16 TRILLION, soon to be 20 Trillion deficit would remain.
      And anyone who thinks that adding taxes just adds revenue at the present going rate . . . is also borderline ignorant . . . when the game changes, people change their behaviour . . . look at France and Britain . . . they both raised taxes and what happened? Folks changed their habits and they COLLECTED LESS REVENUE ! ! !
      The CBO .. . aren't they the folks that said Obammycare was affordable?

    • ProudAmerican247

      DCW16, didn't read your comment until after posting mine above yours. We're on the same page when it comes to taking all the wealth from the rich...the outcome...It won't solve a damn thing!

    • Dissenter

      Alberta? SRSLY?!? The tax burden is virtually identical, they have no Second Amendment, and you have to live in Canada. Ever visit Edmonton in December? Fairbanks is more hospitable.

      The CBO is respected by everyone for its impartiality. But if you want my suggestion, we should nationalize health care a la Australia, France, and Israel. We'd save 8% of GDP, and even Romney praised it. (As a good capitalist, I believe in stealing my competitors' best ideas.)

      Let's say that Rich E.Rich decided that he didn't want to work as hard as a result of the increased tax burden, and he fired a dozen clients. His clients still need the services he used to provide, and Joe Poors will provide them. The net effect on the economy is actually positive, as more people would be working. This is a problem?

    • DCW16

      Edmonton . . . no worse than North Dakota . . . which is another low unemployment area. Alberta unemployment 4%, Saskatchewan has 2.2% unemployment today.

      The other plus . . .Cdn dollar over par today . . . and going up ! ! !

      US Dollar has lost over 30% in the last 5 years and is GOING DOWN ! ! !
      And with the dimmicraps driving the economic bus . . . things will not turn around in the next 4 years.

      Your view of Economics is tainted at best . . . once again . . . look at Britain and France, they both raised taxes on the rich . . . the rich are disappearing from the scene . . . how much tax are they collecting then?

    • Dissenter

      Canada has unions, a social safety-net and all that ... how do you survive? You still haven't answered why I would move to Edmonton -- North Dakota is no Eden -- when my tax burden would be identical to what it would be in Nevada. Wouldn't you rather have a chalet on Lake Tahoe, with all the amenities of San Francisco a few hours away?

      The Republican Party has been consciously destroying the dollar for the better part of a decade; I remember when the AUD was about $0.50, and the bulk of the devaluation happened on Bush's watch. Conservatives have a tenuous grasp of history, seeing it only through the lens of their immaculate presumptions.

      We're a little different from Britain and France: we have a golden handcuff provision in our tax code (26 U.S.C. § 877) that prevents the wealthy from taking the money and running. I think they even get you on estate taxes -- the HEART Act. Go ahead and run; see if we care.

    • DCW16

      There are numerous ways to grow your money in Alberta, Saskatchewan or North Dakota . . . but Nevada is going down for the count . . . any state that would elect a Senator like clueless Harry Reid deserves what it gets. There are no investment opportunities in Nevada these days . . . only cheap houses.
      Devaluation occurred on Bush's watch . . . yea, since 2007 when the dimmicrap congress and senate took over . . . and then the Obammy disaster . . . he has OUTSPENT the previous 43 presidents.

      We hear so much about raising the taxes on the upper percent, but what so many fail to understand is that we are obligated to around $7 Trillion dollars a year on average just to cover our obligations from pensions to Medicare and Social Security and that is just going up as the baby boomer generation hits full stride in retiring. Raising taxes is not the only way to get out of this problem long term, we have to reduce our obligation to these liabilities and reduce the coverage over all in the end. It will not happen today because no one in politics has the guts to do so because they are all too worried about getting reelected, but at some point economics catches up to politics and we are on the verge of crossing the Rubicon now and in the near future.

      On raising taxes we have all heard that even if you increased the rates on the top 2% you will only be able to fund the running of our federal government for an estimated 19 days, so let’s be honest about this and understand that everyone really need so called skin in the game and that includes those in the middle and lower income levels. That is truly the political football right now that no one honestly wants to take on. Either way it is coming that taxes in one form or another are going to increase on theses income levels as well, so, people, it is time to stop playing the class warfare game, all that does is further divide people. The government could raise taxes 100% on those making $66,000 and up and still not cover the unfunded obligations, that is something that we have to understand!

    • Dissenter

      Nevada doesn't have any oil, but since when do you have to be in a state or province to make money there? I can run a business just as easily in Reno as Regina, or Carson City as Calgary.

      $7 trillion a year? Your numbers are FUBAR.

      Everybody has skin in the game. Everyone pays taxes, if not income taxes.

      We could start on the spending side by cutting the military budget by 70%. We'd still be spending way more than China on defense; we could tell the multinationals to pay for their own damn security.

      The class war has been waged for 30 years; the plutocrats won. Either they can give back their ill-gotten gains, or face an inevitable judgment of history: violent revolution, as in the French and Russian revolutions.

    • DCW16

      "The class war has been waged for 30 years; the plutocrats won. Either they can give back their ill-gotten gains, or face an inevitable judgment of history: violent revolution, as in the French and Russian revolutions."
      The revolution happened . . . the Party of JFK was taken over by the Marxists . . . did you miss it? I have been warning for years . . .

      The 7 TRILLION a year was referring to the rapidly rising cost of the expanding obligations to the retiring Boomers . . . that total liability is now north of the 80 Trillion mark . . . but of course nobody wants to hear that . . . everything from medicare, medicaid, health care, public sector union pensions, welfare.

      The cost of the military is a mere drop in the bucket compared to what is being spent on entitlements.

      A country that allows over 20 million illegals to have welfare, free education, food stamps and also your jobs . . . is not playin with a full deck.

    • Dissenter

      From the end to the beginning: You are preaching to the choir wrt illegals; I got thrown off HufffPo for my views on the subject. But be aware that the flood of illegals is what Republican plutocrats want, as they put pressure on the wage base. Direct your complaints here to Sen. Rand Paul....

      Again, where did you get your figures, and who compiled them? Budgets are generally cut off at ten years because any adjustment with respect to assumptions tend to have an outsized impact in later years. Bottom line, while figures don't lie, liars can figure. I doubt that the situation is as dire as you make it out to be but if it is, then we'd have to move to universal socialist health care to ration care (no more Terri Schiavos) and control costs.

      Our military expenditures are almost one-third of the federal budget == hardly a drop in the bucket. And to discharge the government's duty to provide a common defense, we only need about a third of it. We have no business being in Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea, or Germany. $400 bn in savings would go quite a long way, wouldn't it?

      As for Marxists in the Democratic Party, if you get your news from Allen "Battyman" West. I would, however, stipulate that the Crazy Aunt Hazel of the Republican Party was let out of the attic, and has taken over the
      Party from the moderates. Ronald Reagan couldn't even get through a primary with the crazies in charge.

    • DCW16

      "As for Marxists in the Democratic Party"
      The black caucus is one entire group of socialists/marxists . . . and then there's Sanders . . . there are plenty more in the closet . . . including the O who has grown up among radicals . . . and started his political career in the home of a Domestic Terrorist. The Dimmicrap party of your father and grandfather is long dead ! ! !

      Go back and listen to JFK's speaches from 1960 . . . today he would be considered "Very Conservative" by all lefties today.

      Military budget . . . its large . . . but the "Entitlement" Budget and "Unfunded" promises make is seem rather Insignificant. Worrying about all the wars the Dimmicraps started back in the day is ancient history.

      The problem today is REAL and NOW . . . borrowing a TRILLION DOLLARS a year to fund the "Hand-out-crowd" makes no sense.
      Read Cloward and Piven . . . penned ove 40 years ago it lays out the plan to Bankrupt America . . . and the old worman still shows up at dimmicrap functions from time to time.
      I am not a republican, I am a Conservative . . . but down through the decades Republicans have always governed better than dimmicrap regemes. Even Nixon was an "amateur liar" compared to the present occupant . . . the reality is . . . look around the world . . . all leftist/socialists regemes are in DESPERATE FINANCIAL TROUBLE . . . why you ask? Because lieberalism is a Mental Disorder . . . they have NEVER learned to be accountable for anything . . .

    • Dissenter

      Cloward and Piven? You've been listening to Glenn Beck, and if that is where you are getting your news, you will never want for moonshine. He didn't mention Wanniski, did he? By his own admission, Beck is a "rodeo clown" and borderline schizophrenic; he has no college education, to say nothing of legal or financial training, and has not demonstrated the wit to even understand what he is saying. Check out Jon Stewart's Beck spoof on YouTube; as Colbert said, "I love Glenn Beck's sanity. And I fear for it."

      If you believe that the Republicans have governed more responsibly over the past 40 years than Democrats, you must have Romnesia. Ten trillion in debt, plus the structural debt left Obama by Bush #43's disastrous wars of empire and imprudent tax cuts. Remember when "deficits didn't matter" -- the battle cry of the Cheney? When the topic was what we were going to do with all those surpluses? Your hero Chris Cox was Chairman of the House Republican Policy Committee, where he could have spoken up wrt the time-bomb you are whingeing about. But the plan has always been to bankrupt the country. Why not hold them accountable?

    • DCW16

      Read the friggin book ! ! !

      Its playing out before your eyes . . . nothing to do with Beck . . .

      John Stewart is a friggin commedian . . . is that where you get your news? Bet you're a big fan of Chrissy Mathews and Rachel as well . . .

      REMEMBER, that on October 9, 2007, 11 months before our "economic crisis" occurred (that was actually created), the Dow hit its highest point ever, closing at 14,164.53 and reaching 14,198.10 intra-day level 2 days later. Unemployment was steady at 4.7%. But things were already being put in place to create the havoc we've all been experiencing since. And it all started on January 3, 2007. The day the Democrats took over was NOT January 22nd 2009, it was actually January 3rd 2007, which was the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the110th Congress. The Democrat Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995. For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is "Bush's Fault", think about this: January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress. At the time: The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77 The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5% The Unemployment rate was 4.6%. George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB GROWTH

      Remember the day... January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services. Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee. The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy? BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES! Unemployment... to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES! Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie - starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy. And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA! And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie? OBAMA! and the Democrat Congress. So when someone tries to blame Bush. REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007.... THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!"

      Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democrat Party!! Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & > 2009 as well as 2010 & 2011. In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases. For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Hussein Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budgets.

      And where was Barack Hussein Obama during this time?!? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009. If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit; the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Hussein Obama, who voted for the budgets. If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself. In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th!!!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGJQKSAmY_E

      http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200

      Note: Year most tax revenue in America . . . 2007 . . . after Bush tax cuts . . . amazing ! ! !

    • Dissenter

      All that you have proven through that gibberish is that you are good at parroting Rightard talking points, and that you are not even a Thomas Sowell, to say nothing about being a Paul Krugman.

      If you had studied economics, you would understand the concept of a speculative bubble. It is essentially a game of musical chairs; when the music stops, there aren't enough seats. "Bubbles" Greenspan (who is married to an MSNBC host) guided us through a series of speculative bubbles -- first in dot-coms, then in commodities, and finally, in housing loans. Anyone can live like a king on credit cards -- historically, war is a stimulus program -- and Bush 43 was running huge deficits well into the expansion. Greenspan's "easy credit" policy managed to string things along for a while, but it only made the fall harder; as consumer balance sheets worsened, and criminal and excessive oil speculation obliterated what little was left of the masses' disposable income, the crash became inevitable. (FWIW, I put my money where my mouth was, parking it in Treasuries to avoid the bulk of the carnage.)

      An understanding of economics requires long-term perspective, and that you resist the natural tendency to cherry-pick the data. You seem to have missed that point.

    • DCW16

      Chris Cox and Bill Archer, two veterans of the House, chairman of key committees, now in the private sector, wrote in a November 26 Wall Street Journal commentary, “The actual liabilities of the federal government—including Social Security, Medicare, and federal employees’ future retirement benefits—already exceed $86 trillion, or 550% of GDP” (Gross Domestic Product, i.e., the total the U.S. earns from the sale of all goods and services annually).

      We are so far passed the fiscal cliff that the U.S. is unlikely to be able to borrow its way out of this huge debt. Cox and Archer said that “Borrowing on this scale could collapse the capacity of global capital markets—and bankrupt not only the programs themselves but the entire federal government.”

      “When the accrued expenses of the government’s entitlement programs are counted, it becomes clear that to collect enough tax revenue just to avoid going deeper in debt would require $8 trillion in tax collections annually.”

      By adding $6 trillion in debt during his first term, it seems to me that Obama’s goal has been to bring the nation to financial ruin. He added more debt that all the combined presidents before him. He squandered billions on bailouts of General Motors and Chrysler, loans to “green” companies, and increases in programs like food stamps. He cut off new sources of income from the energy sector and, with them, the prospect of jobs that would be generated. At one point he advocated developing algae—pond scum—as a new source of energy.

      The total amount of earnings from individuals and corporations is not sufficient to cover the debt and operating expenses of a federal government that has been steadily expanding since early in the last century. Cox and Archer noted that “all individualsfiling tax returns in America and earning more than $66,193 per year have an adjusted gross income of $5.1 trillion. In 2006, when corporate taxable income peaked before the recession, all corporations in the U.S. had a total income for tax purposes of $1.6 trillion.”

      That’s a total of $6.7 trillion available and we have more than $8 trillion per year in liabilities. The U.S. is borrowing $4 million a day to pay the interest owed on its debt and other liabilities.

      Federal regulations in 2011 added more than $231 billion in regulatory costs to private businesses and state and local governments, adding up to 133 million hours of paperwork, according to the American Action Forum. Tons more regulations are in the pipeline, particularly from the Environmental Protection Agency. When you add in the 28 taxes hidden in Obamacare, it is clear that there will be precious little money left over for anything than the bare necessities of life.

      America is living in the greatest debt bubble the world has ever seen. I suspect most are completely unaware of it.

      America went over the fiscal cliff decades ago and now is in free-fall. Life here and around the world is going to get very ugly.

    • Dissenter

      I know Cox. An honest word has never passed those lips. Knowing that he is the source gives me pause; Cox is living proof that while figures don't lie, liars can figure.

      Budgeting has to take both revenues and expenditures into account, and the numbers are only as good as the underlying assumptions.

    • DCW16

      I know O'bammy . . . the liar in chief . . . but you choose to believe him.
      Do the math yourself . . . when do you wake up? When the US dollar and your assets are worth 33% of what they are today?
      The O'bammy tax increase will fund the govt for 8 days . . . but you . . . like many of the clueless out there believe there is no waste in govt . . . and growing govt is good . . . when the opposite is true 1 ! !
      The Printing Presses are running . . . the O wants another "Stimulous" . . . and there are actually folks out there that think this makes sense.
      What is the future? Another Credit Downgrade, Bond Market faulters as no one want to borrow their funds to the USA . . . watch Europe . . . we are not far behind. Trillion dollar deficits for as far as we can see . . . unsustainable ! ! !
      Did you hear about the Costco guy . . . that spoke at the Dimmicrap Convention . . . they just moved up the date of their 2013 dividends . . . going to pay them this year . . . to avoid any increases in tax rates. Will other companies follow suit? Yes they will . . . result will be less taxes collected next year . . . even if the rates stay the same.

      Now that I have educated you about "fascists" and "marxists" in the dimmicrap party . . . you might read Sowells books on Economics . . .

    • Dissenter

      I'm not saying that there is no waste in government but rather, that there is more in our present health insurance system. I'd start by cutting the military budget by 60-70%, and pass a corporate minimum tax based on book income.

      The reason our TNX is at 1.6% these days is because there is still no safer place for investors to put their money. Unlike Greece, we actually could tax our way out of this problem. .

    • DCW16

      "Unlike Greece, we actually could tax our way out of this problem."
      Impossible ! ! ! If you taxed the so-called top 2% at 100% . . . it would only fund the govt for a few months. Spending over a TRILLION Dollars you don't have every year is unsustainable . . . and the dimmicraps have agreed to cut some of the additional money they were going to spend next year and call it a CUT . . . nonsense ! ! !
      Its like saying next year you are going to buy a Chevy Volt . . . then changing your mind and claiming you saved $40,000 dollars . . . insane ! ! !
      Look at history . . . socialist govts have done this over the decades . . . they raise taxes and get less revenue . . . and then scratch their heads wondering why. People change their habits.
      When the bond rate is 12% and no one will borrow money to the USA . .. maybe you will wake up . . . meanwhile, the O'bammy train keeps rolling down the tracks . . . next stop Spain . . .

    • Dissenter

      Some months ago, the WaPo had a page calculating the effects of certain proposed tax increases and spending cuts would be; I used it, and could find several paths to a balanced budget. The problem -- and what will lead to another downgrade, if Republicans remain intransigent -- is that we don't have the political will to fix things. Just moving to universal health care would save 8% of GDP, which is why the money men aren't as panicked as you.

    • DCW16

      You live in a "Dream World" buddy . . . spending is OUT OF CONTROL . . .

      Here's what Nadar thinks of the "O" . . . and he ain't no conservative . . .

      http://conservativevideos.com/2012/12/nader-war-criminal-obama-worse-than-bush/

    • Dissenter

      Here's an article from Forbes, via MarketWatch: "Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama?" http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/

      "Finally in fiscal 2013 — the final budget of Obama’s term — spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion."

      In Reagan's first term, the compound growth in spending was over 8%, and Bush #43 averaged over 7%. Compare that to Obama's 1.4%, and tell me again that the problem is his profligate spending....

    • DCW16

      "It might have something to do with the first year of the Obama presidency where the federal budget increased a whopping 17.9% —going from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. I’ll bet you think that this is the result of the Obama sponsored stimulus plan that is so frequently vilified by the conservatives…but you would be wrong.
      The first year of any incoming president term is saddled—for better or for worse—with the budget set by the president whom immediately precedes the new occupant of the White House. Indeed, not only was the 2009 budget the property of George W. Bush—and passed by the 2008 Congress—it was in effect four months before Barack Obama took the oath of office."

      The 08 Budget was the Reid/Pellosi budget . . . sure Bush signed it . . . but the Dimmicraps controlled the Congress and Senate. The argument is NONSENSE ! ! !

      The last "Bush" budget was 2007 passed in 06 . . . 160 Billion deficit . . . long way from the TRILLION + defecits since the Dimms took over.

      Govt growth is measured by the NUMBERS of Govt departments and employees . . . it has grown exponentially in the last 4 years.

      Anyone that would argue that the incompetent O is a small spender is on "Crack" . . . Trillion Dollar Deficits as far as the eye can see . . . no budget for FOUR YEARS NOW . . . 50 Million on Food Stamps, almost 20% unemployment and the clown wants to spend 100's of Billions more on Stimulous . . .

      The 16 Trillion Debt soon to be 20 Trillion . . . says it all . . . and some folks are just too dumb to figure it out ! ! !

    • Dissenter

      As a general rule, the fiscal year ending after a President leaves office, is customarily attributed to him. The bailout happened on Bush's watch, and the stimulus wasn't nearly enough to have the proper effect -- much of it was in the form of tax cuts; not nearly enough went to infrastructure repair and maintenance.

      You seem to be laboring under the immaculate misconception that the US economy is like a speedboat, which can turn on a dime. Rather, it is more like a cruise ship, which takes a while to maneuver. The Bush #43 regime drove us toward the shoals of national bankruptcy with profligate spending and unfunded wars (you are strangely silent on the 7% growth in spending he presided over); the Republicans are directly responsible for $10T of the $16T, and set policies in motion that added dramatically to the deficit under Obama. But sadly, you like to cherry-pick your facts, blithely ignoring the concept of budgeting.

      Don't give a man food stamps, and he will kill you to eat. And I wouldn't mourn your passing overmuch, as you would have deserved it. If you want to know what has happened to our national economy for the past ten years, study the two charts at http://www.businessinsider.com/profits-versus-wages

      To you, this appears to be a point of religious dogma. Like the denial of global warming. I'm a numbers guy, and realize that we can't go down this path much further without risking total collapse.

      What you call "stimulus," I call necessary investment. According to the American Society of Civil Engineers, we need an immediate $3T just to maintain our infrastructure, not to mention the upgrades we desperately need to compete in the 21st century. Other countries customarily spend 5% of GDP on infrastructure spending; China spends 9%.Thanks to the execrable Grover Norquist, who should himself be drowned in a bathtub for the good of the country, we're spending about 2-2.5%. If we have to force the rich to disgorge a substantial portion of the massive wealth they have amassed to get this done, we have to. They rigged the game for their benefit by buying public officials; these gains are, in equity, at least partially ill-gotten.

      Sure, it is a tad more socialistic then the anarchy you advocate, but the alternative is a repeat of the French or Russian Revolutions. As I would like to avoid that kind of catastrophic outcome, I advocate this sensible approach. And James Madison, father of our Constitution, agrees.

    • Dissenter

      DCW: "Govt growth is measured by the NUMBERS of Govt departments and employees . . . it has grown exponentially in the last 4 years."

      Mark Twain responds: " It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." According to the Brookings Institution,

      "A notable aspect of the July employment report is the decline in public-sector employment. In fact, public-sector employment (i.e. federal, state, and local government jobs) declined in 10 of the past 12 months, in sharp contrast to 29 consecutive months of private-sector job growth. Indeed, falling public employment has been among the largest contributors to unemployment in the United States since the end of the Great Recession.

      In this month’s employment analysis, The Hamilton Project examines public-sector employment trends over the last three decades and finds that government employment contracted, both in absolute numbers and as a share of the population, during the Great Recession and throughout the current recovery."

      Under Bush #43, government job growth was a healthy 4%, while private sector growth was negative for his first four years; under Obama, public sector employment has declined by 3%.

      While you are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.

    • DCW16

      "You seem to be laboring under the immaculate misconception that the US economy is like a speedboat, which can turn on a dime. Rather, it is more like a cruise ship, which takes a while to maneuver."

      The ship even has a name . . . it's the Titanic . . . . and the incompetent gang of 60's radicals are in the wheel-house saying "Full Speed Ahead" . . .

      Your percentges are nonsense . . . when Bush left office the US debt was a little over 10 Trillion . . . today it is over 16 Trillion . . . and Bush did it? . . . LOL . . . Your Incompetent Buddy in the WH has just campaigned, spent and blamed Bush for 4 years . . . and the 6 Trillion . . . soon to be 20 Trillion just appeared out of nowhere. The dollar has lost over 30% and going down . . . you will be a lot "less wealthy" in the next 4 years . . . you can't imagine. Read a little history . . . Weinmar Republic comes to mind.

      You claim you are a "Numbers" guy . . . I don't believe you . . . i suspect you are just an old dimmicrap retired in Nevada without a clue.

      Governments don't create jobs and never will. But, they can create terminal misery, unmanageable debt and incompetance . . . look at California, New York, Illinois and Michigan . . . this is the future of the USA.

      A little Ron Paul wisdom . . .
      As the year draws to an end, America faces yet another Congressionally-manufactured crisis which will likely end in yet another 11th hour compromise, resulting in more government growth touted as “saving” the economy. While cutting taxes is always a good idea, setting up a ticking time bomb with a sunset provision, as the Bush tax cuts did, is terrible policy. Congress should have just cut taxes. But instead, we have a crisis that is sure not to go to waste.

      The hysteria surrounding the January 1 deadline for the Budget Control Act’s spending cuts and expiration of the Bush tax cuts seems all too familiar. Even the language is predictably hysterical: if government reduces planned spending increases by even a tiny amount, the economy will go over a “fiscal cliff.” This is nonsense.

      This rhetoric is based on the belief that government spending sustains the economy, when in fact the opposite is true. Every dollar the government spends is a dollar taken from consumers, businessmen, or investors. Reducing spending can only help the economy by putting money back in the hands of ordinary Americans. Politicians who claim to support the free market and the lower and middle-class should take this to heart.

      This is like the carnival sharpie who takes your money by means of a pea under one of three cups. The cups are the House, the Senate, and the White House. Round and round they go. Can you spot the pea? Keep your eyes on those cups.

      Meanwhile, the sharpie’s assistants are burglarizing your home.

      The truth is that there is no excuse for government spending being as high as it is, nor for taxes being as high as they are. Even the God of the Old Testament only asked for 10% as a tithe and offering, and Americans revolted against the King of England for taxes that amounted to less than five percent. Yet so many people today complain about “loopholes” for the rich that lower their actual tax rate to “only” 13% in some instances. Even that is a criminal amount to pay for a wasteful, abusive, unconstitutional government.

      We are indeed headed to a fiscal cliff and have been long before this latest hysteria cropped up. But it is not cuts to spending or reduced government “revenue” that will send us over the cliff, it is continued government spending that will. Until the federal government limits itself to its Constitutionally-mandated role, spending and taxation will remain out of control.

      Look for a “bipartisan” compromise in late December, with Republicans giving in to tax increases and settling for phony spending cuts that actually grow government, and Democrats caving on defense cuts in exchange for tax increases. This is how the government has always grown: both sides will sacrifice their pro-liberty, small government stances in certain areas in order to grow the government where they prefer.

    • Dissenter

      While I don't trust government officials any further than I can throw them, your hatred of government is irrational to the point of being pathological. You yearn for a Randian utopia that can never be.

      In a non-inflationary environment, there is no legitimate justification for a preferential tax rate for passive income. As Warren Buffett demonstrated so profoundly, the capital gains tax is almost voluntary in nature, as the investor class can often control the timing and character of their income. Add that to the fact that the corporate income tax is now almost illusory, and you have a massive subsidy of the idle rich.

      Back in the day, a government could exist easily on excise taxes alone, barring the exigencies of war. In a modern world, that just isn't possible, because an advanced capitalist economy needs the increased services government currently provides. Crime, for example, used to be a matter between the victim and the perpetrator; aggrieved individuals served as private attorneys general, and the general government superintended felony prosecutions. When muskets give way to RPGs and schooners, to aircraft carriers with decks larger than Vatican City, costs go up. Your assertion that any modern government could exist on 5% of GDP is fifty shades of daft.

      Did Bush policies cause our current deficit? You betcha, according to CBO figures. http://www.juancole.com/images/2012/08/ryandeficits4.gif Again, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

      While I voted for Ron Paul in both the 2008 and 2012 primaries, you're so far out there in la-la land that the country won'f follow your lead, as you want to superimpose a 18th century government on a 21st century nation, falsely claiming that the Constitution somehow restricts us to a structure that could not function today. The Framers designed it with a certain level of flexibility; if this flexibility were not built in, we would have scrapped it a long time ago. Law adjusts to meet the needs of society, whether that society is agrarian, mercantile, or advanced.

      i advocate "Goldilocks government," where government does what it is more efficient at than the private sector. And as much as you accept as a matter of faith that the free market is more efficient, we haven't had a free market since Leland Stanford was in short-pants. If you understood economics, you might even understand that a well-regulated market is often the closest approximation to a free market we can achieve.

    • DCW16

      Bush, Bush, Bush . . . all we have heard for the last 4 years . . . History will be a lot kinder to Bush than the O'bammy Fraud.

      I understand economics . . . but you don't . . . never ran a business I am sure. Obammy has no clue . . . he has never done anything but Campaign . . . we know very little about this man . . . and what is known is very disturbing.
      Keep on sailing on your imaginary yacht . . . but I believe SMALL government and real Capitolism works far better than what is going on today.
      Eveything government touches it screws up . . . wait till healthcare is just like Britain and Canada . . . where you wait for services and then are ignored if you are deemed too old. The Euro countries with excellent healthcare like France, Switzerland, Germany and Sweden are "Privatizing" healthcare . . . some as much as 60% . . . while we go down the trail to the disaster O'care.
      If you can't figure out what is happening I feel sorry for you . . . 1 dollar out of every 3 dollars spent in the US is borrowed or printed . . . this is UNSUSTAINABLE . . . raising taxes on everyone will not change this. Every dollar taxed out of the economy will mean fewer dollars to be spent on housing, clothing, groceries and so on. This is how a recession can be prolonged for decades . . . just like they have been doing in Japan since the early 90's.
      We are now back in the 30's, O'bammy is the reincarnation of FDR . . . only WWII saved the US from this loon. The USA may never recover from the two terms of the O.
      You of course are not bothered by the Mexican gun running . . . the outrageous situation in Benghazi at the CIA installation that led to the deaths of 4 Americans . . . while the O went to bed. Then he lied about it for weeks afterward. Nothing to see here folks . . . just a little gun running through Turkey to Syria.
      The problem today . . . the average citizen is so dumbed-down with the govt education system and left wing universities . . . no one notices when the Constitution is flushed by the Manchurian Candidate in the WH.
      ps: hang on to your ass . . . its going to be a wild ride for the next 4 years . . .

    • Dissenter

      I keep posting facts and presenting evidence; all you have to support your immaculate misconceptions is an incessant fusillade of talking points. The Obama deficit is structural, caused by Bush policies that he wasn't able to undo (e.g., the Bush tax plan). The chart, derived from published government data, pretty much covers the waterfront, but I would expect that Upton Sinclair's axiom applies: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

      That you aim such vitriol at FDR and the New Deal says it all.

      I am bemused that you would bring up Benghazi, as it appears that there is no "there" there. Only the mindless droolers at Fox -- the propaganda wing of the fruitcake wing of the Republican Party -- are beating this drum, as it appears that Obama is blameless there. (If Obama were to walk on water, you would criticize his lousy backstroke.) These things happen on every President's watch -- remember Beirut? As for Obama allegedly lying, you are either dishonest or spectacularly stupid; if you are trying to track down the guys who did it, you don't want to tell them what you know. The intel community sanitized the report, which makes sense to everyone save for the racists on your side who can't abide the thought of a ni66666er in the White House.

      France's system is one that provides basic public care, supplanted by a private insurance system that finances upgrades. This is not at all new, or particularly revolutionary. Germany's is similar, Sweden appears to be borrowing the French/German solution.

    • DCW16

      So . . . a tired old socialist living off the dole is so clueless he believes everything the O'bammy clown tell him . . . SAD ! ! ! You sir are the typical unmotivated citizen today . . . you Hero the O . . .has never even managed a Lemonade Stand . . . we know almost NOTHING about him and yes . . . Benghazi will top Watergate . . . it may take awhile . . . but 4 Americans are dead and the Pres was AOL as was the Sec of State the hidious Hitlery . . . .

      The Euro HC I was referring to was PRIVATE FOR PROFIT INSTITUTIONS/HOSPITALS COMPETING WITH THE STATE . . . and doing a far better job . . .

      Don't let the "Facts" get in the way of your confused assessment . . .
      The most income tax ever collected was 2007 . . . and yes . . . it was after the Bush tax cuts . . .
      2001: 1991.1B
      2002: 1853.1B
      2003: 1782.3B
      2004: 1880.1B
      2005: 2153.6B
      2006: 2406.9B
      2007: 2568.0B
      2008: 2524.0B

      Some more wisdom from Sowell . . .

      One of the big advantages that President Obama has, as he plays "chicken" with the Congressional Republicans along the "fiscal cliff," is that Obama is a master of the plausible lie, which will never be exposed by the mainstream media-- nor, apparently, by the Republicans.

      A key lie that has been repeated over and over, largely unanswered, is that President Bush's "tax cuts for the rich" cost the government so much lost tax revenue that this added to the budget deficit-- so that the government cannot afford to allow the cost of letting the Bush tax rates continue for "the rich."

      It sounds very plausible, and constant repetition without a challenge may well be enough to convince the voting public that, if the Republican-controlled House of Representatives does not go along with Barack Obama's demands for more spending and higher tax rates on the top 2 percent, it just shows that they care more for "the rich" than for the other 98 percent.

      What is remarkable is how easy it is to show how completely false Obama's argument is. That also makes it completely inexplicable why the Republicans have not done so.

      The official statistics which show plainly how wrong Barack Obama is can be found in his own "Economic Report of the President" for 2012, on page 411. You can look it up.

      You may be able to find a copy of the "Economic Report of the President" for 2012 at your local public library. Or you can buy a hard copy from the Government Printing Office or download an electronic version from the Internet.

      For those who find that "a picture is worth a thousand words," they need only see the graphs published in the November 30th issue of Investor's Business Daily.

      What both the statistical tables in the "Economic Report of the President" and the graphs in Investor's Business Daily show is that (1) tax revenues went up-- not down-- after tax rates were cut during the Bush administration, and (2) the budget deficit declined, year after year, after the cut in tax rates that have been blamed by Obama for increasing the deficit.

      Indeed, the New York Times reported in 2006: "An unexpectedly steep rise in tax revenues from corporations and the wealthy is driving down the projected budget deficit this year."

      While the New York Times may not have expected this, there is nothing unprecedented about lower tax rates leading to higher tax revenues, despite automatic assumptions by many in the media and elsewhere that tax rates and tax revenues automatically move in the same direction. They do not.

      The Congressional Budget Office has been embarrassed repeatedly by making projections based on the assumption that tax revenues and tax rates move in the same direction.

      This has happened as recently as the George W. Bush administration and as far back as the Reagan administration. Moreover, tax revenues went up when tax rates went down, as far back as the Coolidge administration, before there was a Congressional Budget Office to make false predictions.

      The bottom line is that Barack Obama's blaming increased budget deficits on the Bush tax cuts is demonstrably false. What caused the decreasing budget deficits after the Bush tax cuts to suddenly reverse and start increasing was the mortgage crisis. The deficit increased in 2008, followed by a huge increase in 2009.

      So it is sheer hogwash that "tax cuts for the rich" caused the government to lose tax revenues. The government gained tax revenues, not lost them. Moreover, "the rich" paid a larger amount of taxes, and a larger share of all taxes, after the tax rates were cut.

      That is because people change their economic behavior when tax rates are changed, contrary to what the Congressional Budget Office and others seem to assume, and this can stimulate the economy more than a government "stimulus" has done under either Bush or Obama.

      Yet there is no need to assume that Barack Obama is mistaken about the way to get the economy out of the doldrums. His top priority has always been increasing the size and scope of government. If that means sacrificing the economy or the truth, that is no deterrent to Obama. That is why he is willing to play chicken with Republicans along the fiscal cliff.

    • Dissenter

      Who am I going to believe -- the hyper-partisan Uncle Thomas Sowell, who wants to keep his sinecure on Simon LeGreed's plantation, or the non-partisan CBO?

    • DCW16

      Non-partisan CBO . . . who is wrong more often than they are right . . . LOL One thing about a leftist . . . don't ever want to be confuse with the FACTS

      How about Krauthammer . . . always the Smartest Guy in the Room . . . any room . . .

      Krauthammer: ‘Easy to win elections when you give away candy that you borrowed from the Chinese’

      On Tuesday’s “The O’Reilly Factor” on the Fox News Channel, syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer spoke to the severity of one of the overlooked aspects of the looming fiscal cliff debate: the growth of U.S. deficit spending and the national debt.

      Host Bill O’Reilly asked Krauthammer about the possibility of a Greece-like crisis, and Krauthammer emphasized the growth of the debt to gross domestic product ratio under President Barack Obama as a show of the severity of the threat.

      “I mean, it’s not going to happen overnight,” Krauthammer said. “But clearly, at some point, and we know that that point is 90 percent, 100 percent ratio of debt to GDP. We’re already under Obama over seventy percent of debt to GDP. When his term started, the ratio of debt to GDP was 44 percent. It’s now about 73 percent. That’s in four years. That’s astronomical.”

      But there is a political component to increased spending, Krauthammer said, and Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney was unable to successfully make the case that the nation is in danger.

      “I think it’s pretty easy to win elections when you give away candy that you borrowed from the Chinese,” he said. “And I think the reason the Republicans lost is they didn’t make the case. They didn’t make the case that this is unsustainable.”

      Krauthammer said he remains optimistic despite Romney’s shortcomings because when Romney was able to make the case, his campaign benefited.

      “And you know the irony is he did it in the first seven minutes of the first debate,” Krauthammer added. “And that’s what rocketed him to the head of the pack, to the lead in the campaign. And then he rested on his lead and he was afraid to make that case. Look, I think, if you explain to the American people that you can’t keep borrowing a trillion dollars a years, ad infinitum, you can win. We’ve got to make that case and, I think, that we can win. So, I’m rather optimistic.”

      Obama’s Now Borrowed More Than All Presidents from Washington to W

      By Terence P. Jeffrey

      November 30, 2012

      (CNSNews.com) - The federal government has now borrowed more money during Barack Obama’s time as president than it did in the period lasting from the time President George Washington took the oath office until July 2, 2001, more than five months into the first term of President George W. Bush.

      At the close of business on Jan. 20, 2009, when President Barack Obama was inaugurated, the national debt stood at $10,626,877,048,913.08, according to the Treasury. At the close of business this Thursday, it stood at $16,323,083,449,604.98.

      That means the debt has increased $5,696,206,400,691.90 during Obama’s presidency.

      On July 2, 2001, more than five months after President George W. Bush entered office, the national debt was $5,693,220,327,798.14, according to the Treasury. By the close of business on July 3, 2001, it had risen to 5,698,195,769,465.40. Since then, the debt has never again dropped below $5,696,206,400,691.90—the amount it has increased in less than one full term of Obama.

      (Between late 1999 and the middle of 2001, as federal revenues sometimes exceeded expenditures, the debt fluctuated back and forth over the $5.696 trillion mark--only to finally pass that threshold, without retrenching, between July 2 and 3, 2001.)

      On Thursday, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner suggested that Congress give President Obama the unilateral authority to lift the limit on the national debt.

      The Census Bureau estimated in September that there were 114,916,000 households in the United States. That means that the $5,696,206,400,691.90 the Obama administration has borrowed in the name of U.S. taxpayers now equals about $49,568 per household.

      Have you got your $50 g's ready to pay your share Dis?

    • Dissenter

      Trig Palin would be the smartest guy in any room at Faux.

      Sorry I can't stay any longer....

    • DCW16

      Your lack of intellect is astounding . . . but here's video to watch . . . the Holder Gestapo at work in the USA . . . soon coming to a business or home near you . . .

      Even you think that the Federals are needed. That is the big lie. And it is one that the Founding Fathers recognized. They built an absolutely brilliant system. And only now is its genius really making its appearance visible.

      Sure the Constitution WAS (past tense) an amazing document. But that document is now being blatantly ignored by a growing family of Federals (not Americans – Federals. If you are an employee
      of the Federal government; you are a Federal. There is a big difference). Here is a perfect example:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

      We no longer have a 4th Amendment…a far weaker 5th Amendment, a constantly escalating war on the 2nd Amendment. A 1st Amendment that is being aborted to support a media system that Goebbels would be proud of.

      We have a growing Federal population whose only loyalty is to the god of government. I wouldn’t be surprised to see gated communities spring up where the only residents are Federals…they will feel, and be, safer that way. In fact the Washington D.C. suburbs are just that.

      We have so-called pundits like Sean Vanity, Maddow, Mathews, MSNBC, Fox News, CNN, CBS…et.al, that shriek on the sidelines yet they are part of the very same disease. And only offer
      distraction from the reality that is now America.

      We absolutely do not need the Federals. Quite the opposite…they need us. Now you continually call for smaller government…it WILL NOT HAPPEN! Period. History has always shown that a government grows like any disease. It is a blessing for a short period then it takes on a life of its own and becomes a country in itself. It begins to feed on the very citizens it is “sworn” to support. So these side issues like taxes – high or low – do not matter. Entitlements like Social Security and Medicare – do not matter. The deficit – may it please God continue to rise – does not
      matter. What matters in all of this is the trap door the Founders designed around…the States.

    • DCW16

      A few words of Wisdom from Dr. Sowell . . .

      Amid all the political and media hoopla about the "fiscal cliff" crisis, there are a few facts that are worth noting.

      First of all, despite all the melodrama about raising taxes on "the rich," even if that is done it will scarcely make a dent in the government's financial problems. Raising the tax rates on everybody in the top two percent will not get enough additional tax revenue to run the government for ten days.

      And what will the government do to pay for the other 355 days in the year?

      All the political angst and moral melodrama about getting "the rich" to pay "their fair share" is part of a big charade. This is not about economics, it is about politics. Taxing "the rich" will produce a drop in the bucket when compared to the staggering and unprecedented deficits of the Obama administration.

      No previous administration in the entire history of the nation ever finished the year with a trillion dollar deficit. The Obama administration has done so every single year. Yet political and media discussions of the financial crisis have been focused overwhelmingly on how to get more tax revenue to pay for past and future spending.

      The very catchwords and phrases used by the Obama administration betray how phony this all is. For example, "We are just asking the rich to pay a little more."

      This is an insult to our intelligence. The government doesn't "ask" anybody to pay anything. It orders you to pay the taxes they impose and you can go to prison if you don't.

      Then there are all the fancy substitute words for plain old spending-- words like "stimulus" or "investing in the industries of the future."

      The theory about "stimulus" is that government spending will stimulate private businesses and financial institutions to put more of their money into the economy, speeding up the recovery. But the fact that you call something a "stimulus" does not make it a stimulus.

      Stimulus spending began during the Bush administration and has continued full blast during the Obama administration. But the end result is that both businesses and financial institutions have had record amounts of their own money sitting idle. The rate of circulation of money slowed down. All this is the opposite of stimulus.

      What about "investing in the industries of the future"? Does the White House come equipped with a crystal ball? Calling government spending "investment" does not make it investment any more than calling spending "stimulus" makes it stimulate anything.

      What in the world would lead anyone to think that politicians have some magic way of knowing what the industries of the future are? Thus far the Obama administration has repeatedly "invested" in the bankruptcies of the present, such as Solyndra.

      Using lofty words to obscure tawdry realities extends beyond the White House. Referring to the Federal Reserve System's creation of hundreds of billions of new dollars out of thin air as "quantitative easing" makes it seem as if this is some soothing and esoteric process, rather than amounting essentially to nothing more than printing more money.

      Debasing the value of money by creating more of it is nothing new or esoteric. Irresponsible governments have done this, not just for centuries, but for thousands of years.

      It is a way to take people's wealth from them without having to openly raise taxes. Inflation is the most universal tax of all.

      All the pretty talk about how tax rates will be raised only on "the rich" hides the ugly fact that the poorest people in the country will see the value of their money decline, just like everybody else, and at the same rate as everybody else, when the government creates more money and spends it.

      If you have $100 and, after inflation follows from "quantitative easing," that $100 dollars will only buy what $80 bought before, then that is the same economically as if the government had taxed away one-fifth of your money and spent it.

      But it is not the same politically, so long as gullible people don't look beyond words to the reality that inflation taxes everybody, the poorest as well as the richest.

    • Dissenter

      Having corresponded with Sowell, I have a less-charitable view of him. He should stick to what he knows, as opposed to injecting his layman's views on the law into the public discourse. I know nothing about telephone repair and as such, I don't often express my views on it.

    • DCW16

      (continued)

      When you look at what our government is doing right now from devaluating the dollar with the printing press, to increasing spending in the hopes that it will lift us out of the financial mess that we are in it becomes clear that they do not have the real fortitude to address the real problems that we face and neither does the general public because as a whole we have put aside common sense to keep the gravy train rolling along to the personal pet issues that we all may have from one issue to the next.

      The course that we are on right now has been tried many times throughout history and each time it has failed. You can look at how Weimar Germany attempted to print and inflate their way out of the morass it faced and how it led to totalitarianism, or you could look here at home how FDR tried to spend his way out of the problems he faced at the time. Both examples did not work, they only delayed the inevitable as in the case of FDR in his second term he faced a second recession instead of recovery just as we are facing today. They found out that spending did not help employment levels and left them further in debt as a result. Many of the things started under that administration and later under LBJ has led us to the real cliff of $80 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities. Congressman Paul Ryan is on record if we do not address Medicare in an honest and constructive way in the next two years it will become unviable. The same can be said about Social Security. Governments own estimates already show that it becomes unviable before 2025, but will this government really address it and can the people really stomach the bitter pill that is coming?

      I have this feeling though that we are going to keep heading down the road of collapse regardless because no one wants to be honest or even realistic any longer. But remember one thing; it is not just the $16 Trillion that we face it is really the $80 plus Trillion in unfunded liabilities that we face that are going to bring us to that collapse and until we start addressing that and taking that head on and doing the things that will effect each and every one of us regardless of how painful it may be we are only fooling ourselves and allowing ourselves to become further divided. In the end though folks it will affect all of us and we cannot escape that fact.

      Pawns always pay the heaviest price. Today common sense as well as understanding of history and the lesson it has to teach allows for the ignorance in many to fully understand the bigger picture that is playing out around them. Allowing those who would rather keep us divided for their own personal gain, has only allowed us to become the pawns that lose the most in the larger game being played.

      Ignorance is bliss for many, just as not wanting to own up to the reality that we cannot have all that we want each and every time we demand it. To continue down these paths of demand today at the expense of tomorrow lets the game players continue to use you as the pawns they want you to be. In the long term it is through ignorance and personal self greed along with not understanding to not do the hard things no matter how painful now in the end that leads to loss of each and every liberty that you have ever known and places you as the pawn that suffers the most in the end.

    • ProudAmerican247

      The majority of the so-called "wealthy" = the JOB CREATORS. Their not wealthy but they'd be the hardest hit. Get it straight.
      Ya take more of their money they won't be creating ANY jobs.
      The financial experts say for a fact....if gov't took ALL the money, every penny from the very wealthiest, those sitting at the top to pay bills, it would be all spent within a couple months. Stealing from the people is unsustainable. It won't work!
      In the end, it's about taking away EVERYONE'S assets, our FREEDOMS making us dependent on our CORRUPT so-called gov't. That's Socialism/Communism. It's criminal and corrupt and we're not going to stand for it.

    • Dissenter

      Obviously, you have never actually run a business. Wealthy people don't create jobs; customers do.

      The net worth of the top 1% is about $30 trillion. We could take everything they owned and not only pay off our state and national debts, but invest in the future.

      "Stealing" is what happened when Republican presidents ran up over $10 trillion in debt, much of it when $10 trillion meant something. Stealing from our children. And of course, you are happy with that, right?

      Read the work of Jude Wanniski. For thirty years, the Republican Party has been deliberately bankrupting the country to immolate the New Deal. In its place, you would have the fascist plutocracy James Madison warned about. IMHO, a nudge toward the norm in modern states (not communism, but capitalism with a meaningful social safety-net) is more desirable than your "I got mine (if you do, though I suspect you do not), F*** You!" vision for America.

    • expect

      obama spent more than all of them put together

    • ProudAmerican247

      "Obviously, you have never actually run a business."
      ------------------------------------
      My husband and I owned and ran 3 businesses. When the time came to move on, he handed them down to one of his employees in each case. They are all running very well today after selling them 18 years ago. Jobs were created, customers were provided excellent service with the lowest prices in town and everyone's happy. At one point, he had to lay 25 people off because of Carter's high taxation on businesses in order to save the business. Once Carter got the boot and Reagan was elected, we were able to hire them all back. There was a 4th business my husband ran as a one-man operation by himself and eventually sold that too, to a eager entrepreneur. That's what makes this country roll, buddy. You sound like most Libs, very negative, maybe depressed and self-loathing. Get some help. There's plenty of mental health professionals in business to help you with your problems. I'd hate to see you continue to make uneducated, radical and childish comments.

    • Dissenter

      Funny that you would diss Carter, who managed to create 10 million jobs on his watch.

      I am agog at what you say. Customers = revenue; without them, even the richest man cannot create a single job. That you don't understand that is staggering. I don't particularly care that you are stuck on stupid....

    • expect

      he dont want too stop spending hes a agenda America wake up

    • expect

      get a brain. waste is the problem and all the aborted babies not coming behind us too pay

    • Dissenter

      A CPA (or CA, in CA), you obviously are not.

      If you have more money than you know what to do with, would you rather live in San Diego or San Antonio? Even Mitt "I hate taxes" Romney went west....

    • ProudAmerican247

      We don't have a REVENUE problem, we have a SPENDING problem!!!!!!!
      The people are Taxed Enough Already!
      And that's what the 'Tea' in Tea Party stand for.
      FRAUD,WASTE, CRONY CAPITALISM is the PROBLEM, NOT the people NOT paying ENOUGH taxes! WE ARE TAXED TO DEATH and I'm DAMN sick of it!!!!
      How about those BASTARDS in DC STOP THE "WASTEFUL" SPENDING!

    • Dissenter

      Teabaggers are dull-witted, fact-challenged, and stuck on stupid. They don't know that our current tax burden is at a 60-year low and that thirty years of trickle-down economics has proven that it does not create jobs, but how can you reach someone who denies global warming and thinks that God sacrificed himself to himself to change a rule he made himself?

    • expect

      global warming is bull read the green agenda its a back door for comi

    • DCW16

      So your a "Gorebull Warmist" . . . that explains a lot . . . you of course have Seen The Science . . . right! Did Fat Al show it to you?

      The "science" that proves CO2 causes Anthropogenic Gorebull warming . . . does not exist . . . that is why scientists "believe" . . . it is a religion.

    • Dissenter

      Unlike yours, it is a "religion" based on evidence and yes, I have seen some of it. Acidification of the oceans has impacted the food chain.

    • DCW16

      The record-breaking snowfall and cold that hit the Northeast in December 2010 forced cancellation of 5,000 airline flights and one NFL football game, prompted six states to declare states of emergency, and left nearly 55 percent of the U.S landmass covered in snow.

      This is far from the greatest winter devastation in recent history.

      The great blizzard of 1888 piled snow more than 20 feet deep in parts of New York City, forcing some residents to enter and exit their homes from third-story windows.

      The year 1816 was called the year without summer because in the Northeast snow remained year-round in the shade of rocks and trees. It was apparently caused by the added chill of high-altitude volcanic ash circling and shading the Earth, happened during what today we call the little ice age that gripped the Northern Hemisphere from around 1400 A.D. until around 1850 A.D.

      From America's Revolutionary War we have records of British soldiers dragging heavy cannons across the thick ice from Staten Island to Brooklyn.

      During this era the harbors in Boston, New York City, Baltimore, and Philadelphia repeatedly froze shut in winter. The winter at Valley Forge was far more severe than those today.

      We may be sliding back into a little ice age, as I argued long ago in my book "The Cooling." A bit of global warming might supply the atmospheric moisture that could make such a rapid return to Earth's normal colder ice climate happen.

      But you would never know this listening to global warming advocates, who in recent days have proclaimed that global warming is the cause of the record-shattering cold and snow in the Northeast, Great Britain, and much of Europe.

      A Dec. 22 editorial in Investor's Business Daily (IBD) put its finger precisely on the fallacy in such thinking. As philosopher of science Karl Popper observed, to be valid science a claim must be "falsifiable," testable in a way that can prove it wrong.

      But the global warming zealots now claim that any and every extreme of weather — hot or cold, wet or dry, stormy or free from almost all hurricanes — purportedly validates their belief in global warming.

      "This isn't science," said IBD, "it's a kind of faith. Scientists go along and even stifle dissent because, frankly, hundreds of millions of dollars in research grants are at stake. But for the believers, global warming is the god that failed."

      For many of these cultists, whom I long ago dubbed climarxists, "their real agenda has nothing to do with climate change at all," opined IBD.

      Weeks ago warming scientists, including some caught lying in "climategate," and radical activists convened in Cancun, Mexico, and felt record cold in this tropical resort.

      But the failure of their predictions led to no recantation of their dogma. What emerged instead from Cancun was a recommendation that by 2020 the world's rich nations should transfer $100 billion per year to poorer nations to "mitigate" the harm they will suffer from global warming we purportedly have caused.

      "This is what global warming is really about," said IBD, "wealth redistribution by people whose beliefs are basically socialist. It has little or nothing to do with climate."

      And the largest share of wealth redistribution these climarxists intend via the pretext of global warming will go not from rich to poor, but from the private sector to the public sector, from private property and capitalists to socialists who control government and are eager to grab control over everything.

      One such socialist is President Barack Obama, whose Environmental Protection Agency is now defying a vote by the Democratic-controlled U.S. Senate that refused to give the EPA unlimited power to regulate so-called greenhouse gases as if they were environmental toxins.

      Such power could give the EPA dictatorial power over your body, which with each exhalation emits the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide, a byproduct of the biological processes that keep you alive.

      Such environmental and ideological extremists are unwilling to acknowledge that you are as much a part of "nature" as any other living thing.

      They refuse to acknowledge that a human skyscraper or internal combustion engine is therefore just as "natural" as a bird nest or an anthill.

      Or that natural climatic change is too vast and complex for today's primitive and politicized science to comprehend.

      How much longer will thinking people be fooled by the power-grabbers' global-warming snow job?

      Lowell Ponte's new book, co-authored with Craig R. Smith, is "Crashing the Dollar: How to Survive a Global Currency Collapse," available at crashingthedollar.com

      © Newsmax. All rights reserved.

    • Dissenter

      You mean, that fine felon Craig Smith, who has been caught defrauding his Swill-America clients? He was exposed some years ago by Phoenix's New Times -- I have the article lying around somewhere. Not exactly the most credible of sources....

    • Old_Gringo

      Fleabagging Libs really are dull-witted, fact-challenged, and stuck on stupid.

    • expect

      yea shrimp on a tredmill tones of waste she would get rid all that

    • Old_Gringo

      You really are deranged aren't you?

    • Dissenter

      You really are senile, aren't you?

    • Edward53

      Sez who? YOU???

    • expect

      I would like too see Michelle bachman on the ticket and sarah somewhere in the mix

    • medivac

      A big "Roger That" on this one !!

    • Dissenter

      That's sheer lunacy, fry! The President has almost no influence over world oil prices -- but if we doubled our CAFE standards and incentivized the retirement of your three-ton Suburban Assault Vehicles, we would put some downward pressure on them.

    • MyronJPoltroonian

      "Suburban Assault Vehicles"? Ah, yes, "Café" illogic to it's extreme. "Dæmonize" willy nilly anything you don't like by impugning, belittling and poking derisive fun at whatever you fear will prove your world view delusional.

    • Dissenter

      ...said the people who cried "Hitlery!"

    • DCW16

      That's why four years ago when Bush announced drilling leases on Federal Land the price of oil dropped from $140 to below $65 . . . right ! ! !
      The O is Anti US Oil, anti-pipeline and pro-Saudi . . . that's why he bows to Saudi kings. You sound like an enviro-loon . . . and Gorebull Warming Believer . . . lol

    • Dissenter

      Do you live in a parallel universe or something? About 50% of that $140 price was attributable to speculation; Merrill Lynch was the world's largest oil company for a time. The speculative bubble burst on account of a lack of demand (the collapse of the world economy), going back to its more normal $60-70 range. According to Forbes, about 20% of the cost of a barrel of oil is still attributed to speculative skimming.

    • DCW16

      Bush DID SOMETHING . . . whereas, O'bammy closed the Gulf, closed Federal Land and sent 2 Billion dollars to Brazil for Petrobras. Several rigs from the Gulf also went to Brazil to drill for Petrobras . . . who owns a large share of Petrobras? Why the O's good buddy George Soreass . . . interesting yes?

    • Dissenter

      You're just a flat-out ignorant redneck. We make the rigs, and our Export-Import Bank finances them. It's just good business.

      Deepwater Horizon proved that the oil companies don't have the technical expertise required to drill at such depths. As for closing federal lands, he cancelled leases that weren't being exploited. We should nationalize our oil reserves like Norway did; we could retire our national debt in a decade.

    • expect

      we can support everbody right not

    • TheBigGeezer

      again dissenter, you are totally WRONG. obama would have reduced 'at the pump prices' immediately by 10%-20% if he had brought in the Canadian pipeline. If he would have increased any of the federal drilling leases (instead of closing down leases) our prices would have dropped by another dramatic amount. You do have your liberal facts right... it's just that the liberal facts ARE LIES. We don't need any cafe standards... the free markets take care of that.. your biggest problem is that you can't stand the word FREE... you love having someone and your government telling what to do every step of the way... that's what you think makes up your life. In fact, I think I hear your mommy calling you right now to come up from the basement and have lunch!

    • Dissenter

      You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. The only independent study showed that prices would rise as a result of XL, mostly because we would be giving up our monopsony purchasing power. Granted, most of you Jethro Bodine types don't know what that means, but I can't cure stupid. As far as the drilling leases are concerned, they were closed because the owners weren't exploiting them. And if we stopped subsidizing oil and gas production -- Jon Huntsman accurately calculated the true cost of a gallon of gas at $10-13 -- we probably wouldn't need to impose CAFE standards, because the demand for Vespas and EVs would go through the roof. Finally, oil and gas production doesn't quite work on an Adam Smith model on account of economies of scale, the time it takes to harvest it, and the impact of pollution.

    • TheBigGeezer

      simple reality... you are an idiot and liar... nowhere in your post is honest facts. obama shuts down all leases... because someone isn't exploring them... what a total fool. Your idiocy is not worth my time or anyone else that might be on this site...

    • Dissenter

      simple reality ... you are senile and/or insufferably stupid.

    • expect

      yes maybe shes wasting her time they need a fighter with brass and made steal speaks truth and not afraid too attack.That was mitts problem

    • expect

      not too say she doesnt have that but they hate her

    • medivac

      And now the head troll is begging Romney for his views on getting more people working !! This comes from the troll who said that Romney was a job destroyer !! Again I submit Palin / West 2016 !! Both strong conservatives that believe in the Constitution Of The United States Of America !!

    • expect

      No mitt could of done it they wanted fixed gimmy whats mine even though its nots theres go too work

    • eli

      ditto

    • expect

      A smart women can see through that man

    • fryer01

      she knew exactly what he is...and tried to tell everyone...but people didn't listen....now they know...and we can't get rid of him ...yet!!!!! but we will!!!!!!

    • Ron Bedell

      I could not vote for her. Sarah Palin is a big government internationalist. Her foreign policy is no different from that of the big government Republican's. She also supported the Bush bailout in the fall of 2008. If elected Palin would surround herself with the internationalists as Bush did. Sorry, Palin is another Rino.

    • http://www.facebook.com/wayne.graff.58 Wayne Graff

      You should really quit smoking that stuff, it's really starting to show. What big government did she ever work in, Alaska? I wouldn't call that big government. If you ever pull your head out of that dark place it now inhabits, you might want to take another look at Sarah's qualifications.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OXEUPLQP5N3NWO72YU6KUTFHFA Vern

      Give him Hell Wayne, another Liberal living in dark places.

    • Ron Bedell

      Do your homework man. Palin would walk lock step with the big government Republican Party. Plus, your beloved Palin quit right in the middle of her four term as governor so she could preparation for a Presidential run. And she supported the Bush bailout in the fall of 2008. Really, how many times do I need to repeat that before it sinks in? Your beloved Palin is a socialist. The Founders would have supported bringing all U.S. troops home from every country in the world, now! That is definitely not Palin's position. Palin is an internationalist.

    • http://www.facebook.com/gailnowaczyk Gail Nowaczyk

      You Ron Bedell are nothing but a big mouth, who does not know what you are saying. Barry is never going to bring all the troops home Palin is NOT a Socialist. But Barry is a Muslim and a Terriost. Palin was American Born, Barry born in Kenya. Palin stands with the Constitution. Barry is changing the Constitution. You Ron Bedell write and talk like a Democrate who believes in Barrys LIES. So you also must be a Muslim Commist Lover. Grow a brain and get you head our of Barrys a*s, and quite having your hand out for his Freebies. Get a job because I am tired of listening to you. And tired of you getting some of my Hard Earned money. You are not entitled to nothing

    • Ron Bedell

      If I was a Muslim Communist lover then why would I vote for Virgil Goode (Constitution Party) for President? Man use your head for a change! It is one thing for a candidate to say they stand for the Constitution. It is quite another thing to actually take that stand. I was a Ronald Reagan Republican for many years but not any more. The GOP has been a disaster. They have moved far to the left. They are destroying this country with all their big government New World Order legislation: NDAA, Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act 2006, Wire tapping, etc, etc.

    • PatrioTEA

      TOO much weed, man!!!

    • Edward53

      Most of us don't know what Virgil Goode stood for. If he was so great then why didn't we see him in the debates? I sure didn't see him on the ballot in Oklahoma.

    • Ron Bedell

      Well, obviously you are not going to see third party candidates on TV or in debates unless they have a lot of money. Virgil Goode is not that great. But he was a lot better than Mitt or Barry. Americans had no choice in this past election. Both, Mitt and Barry, supported all ten points of the Communist Manifesto. Both are socialists. And both are internationalists.

    • rosech

      Obama is an outright communist which I said in 2008 and even Russia's Pravda said it straight out! We can only hope we will still be America if he lasts 4 more years! Many of us wanted and would love to have Palin as President - class, looks, high intelligence, knows how to manage and run a government, has the contacts abroad because Alaska is a vital state in this so-called union. In the meantime, our job is to clean up and clear out!

    • expect

      he sure is wait tell they come and take everything Wake uo America

    • http://www.facebook.com/gene.r.swank Gene R Swank

      You should not speak of people you dont have the sense to clean there shoes. Sarah is one of the most honest sincere people in this world. She never did anything that would hurt the people. She gave back more then any other Governor in history. The reason she resigned was her concern over her having to spend day after day fighting false charges that were never proved and all charges dropped. But she was honest enough to not want the people of Alaska paying her when she could not spend all of her time working for the benifit of the people. And just a thought What is an Internationalist, this is something you just made up!!! Never heard that one before. Pretty creative for an idiot liar!!!!!!!!

    • Ron Bedell

      Honesty and sincerity does not mean that she is not an internationalist/globalist. A person could be honestly and sincerely wrong! Before you call people an "idiot liar" perhaps you should start doing your home for a change. If you don't know what an internationalist is then read the book The Shadows of Power by James Perloff. That would be a great start. Basically, a globalist is someone who cannot mind their own business and they are constantly in involved in the political affairs of other countries and every American for that matter. The goal of a globalist is the New World Order and world government. And if the globalists cannot convince people to surrender their rights peacefully they will force people to surrender their rights. Globalism paves the way for the anti-Christ. And, of course, the anti-Christ will demand worship from every body in the world or he will have them killed. So in order for the globalists to accomplish their goal of world government they will have to destroy all the God given rights of everyone. Barry is a globalist; Rand Paul is a globalist; Sarah Palin is a globalist; Romney is a globalist; Bush Sr is a globalist; "W" is a globalist; Jeb is a globalist; etc. These are not all hard line globalists. But the Bush family definitely is. Nearly all of the Democrat and Republican Parties are globalists. And at least since 1913 the Federal Reserve and the Republicans and the Democrats have been busy destroying the value of the U.S. dollar and American sovereignty, your sovereignty as well as the sovereignty and freedom of everyone in the world. Lastly, the Republican Party is a lot more liberal and corrupt than what some of you think.

    • DCW16

      Palin is a "Patriot" . . . You . . . not so sure ! ! !

    • Ron Bedell

      Well, perhaps you are right about her quitting in the middle of her four year term, if that is the truth. Never the less, she is a big government Republican politician. She is a socialist and an Internationalist. Man don't you people ever do your homework? Sarah Palin verbally endorsed the Bush bailout in the fall of 2008. And she also endorsed big government John McCain twice, President & U.S. Senate! An internationalist is someone who is looking to expand the unconstitutional American Empire overseas. The Democrats support an unconstitutional welfare empire while the Republicans support an unconstitutional warfare empire. This unconstitutional American Empire is destroying the morality of our country and the value of our dollar. If you haven't noticed, the dollar is crashing and soon it will be replaced by New World Order money. We are on the rink of a one world government and the New World Order thanks to the Federal Reserve and all the Internationalists/ Globalists in government. The Republicans and Democrats are doing a marvelous job of paving the way for the anti-Christ. Before you start calling people an idiot liar, I think you better start doing your homework, first, and get an education.

    • TheBigGeezer

      ron... you're an idiot! Palin made major cuts to government and spending while governor of Alaska. And Palin leaving the governorship... it was her decision to leave for other career opportunities and to stop the ridiculous attacks from the liberals and democrats that were bringing the Alaska legislature to a screeching halt. You have little to no facts... BUT THE FACT that your presidential vote assured 4 more years of obama show how truly ignorant you are... you must be proud to see your buddy barack back in the white house.

    • TexBarb

      I can tell right now that many folks were going in different directions according to their political bend, but we truly had 2 choices: Romney or O...., and those who voted otherwise, also voted for O. We didn't have any other choice - why in the world would you waste your vote to make a point, when the point was thrown in the trash. That is stupid. Surely you could see that Romney was 100 times better than what we've got, and now we are off in the never-never land, possibly forever. Stupid, stupid, stupid. You are as much to blame as those liberals, perhaps even more so. When you see the outcome before you, and you don't have a chance to win, why oh why would you throw away your vote. No, again I correct myself - why would you vote for the Thief?

    • expect

      yes if then they didnt like what mitt was doing they could of voted him out but nowwhere done,but your seat belt on where going on the ride of our lives

    • DCW16

      "Plus, your beloved Palin quit right in the middle of her four term as governor so she could preparation for a Presidential run."
      Where did you see that . . . on SNL?
      She stepped down because of numerous nuisance dimmicrap lawsuits in Alaska . . .
      Palin supported the Bush bailout? How? She didn't have a vote.
      Palin is a socialist? You are a dimwhit? Based on exactly what? The "Socialist" is in the WH.
      Get a grip Ron . . .

    • Ron Bedell

      When you cannot face the truth you resort to name calling. Obviously, Palin did not vote for the Bush bailout because she was not a member of Congress. Yes, of course! But she VERBALLY came out in support of it! You need to get a grip!!! Yes, she is a socialist. Listen to her. Does she support getting rid of the IRS, graduated federal income tax, Federal Reserve, bring home all U.S. troops from every country in the world right now? NO!

    • http://www.facebook.com/gailnowaczyk Gail Nowaczyk

      Good going Wayne Graff. Someone had to tell Ron Bedell off. And you did it the best.

    • David

      And what qualifications did Obumnutz have when he rigged the 2008 election. None!!! And the only thing he knows how to do is play golf and fly around Air Force One.

    • sonny

      You're right, Wayne. Great post but you just can't fix stupid. That is how obama got elected, TWICE. Some ppl just never learn. Maybe after 4 more years of failure, they will get something through their thick skulls.
      On second thought, I DOUBT IT.

    • Ron Bedell

      You people still don't get it. Your beloved Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats. Man it is time to wake up and quit believing everything you see on the 6'oclock news. The Republicans are selling you out to the New World Order just as fast as the Democrats are. I heard one preacher say, "the American people have been so mentally conditioned to accept big government that if tyranny hit them right in their blessed assurance they would never recognize it." Does any body remember the famous words of Bush Sr (REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT) back in 1990 & 1991, New World Order!

    • expect

      yea your right its always been the lesser of 2 evils

    • expect

      yea they loved hitler too history will repeat itself if we didnt learn

    • fryer01

      exactly my thought...no big govt. in alaska!!!! the oil may be in texas..but the dipsticks are in washington!!!!!!

    • catman

      Well Ron, I only hope you are going to be happy with the crap that's coming down the pike with this usurper in the Black House. Obumass has shredded our Constitution and issued so damn many executive orders (some 345 so far) that will directly impact your liberal way of thinking (read life). At least Sarah recognizes the Constitution for what it is and believes in what our founding fathers meant it to be. Calling her a RINO is laughable.

    • 44rd11

      Obama has done NOTHING that the Citizens of the United States and the Congress of the United States has let him do.

    • PatrioTEA

      What?

    • swiswach

      Remember, he got Obamacare passed by bribing Bart Stupak $700,000 and Ben Nelson 10,000,000. Without bribery, Obama would be nothing

    • bgsnowski

      An unfortunate but correct statement

    • expect

      that answer tells me you are in the dark

    • Ron Bedell

      Why would I be happy with Barry? I voted for Virgil Goode (Constitution Party). Your liberal Republicans are a lot farther to the left than what you think. More than 95% of your beloved Republicans in Congress supported the NDAA last year. And, of course, Barry signed the NDAA into law on December 31, 2011 when half the country was out getting drunk. The NDAA destroys all of your God given rights. It destroys the entire Bill of Rights and Habeas Corpus. Lastly, The Republicans supported the Unconstitutional Patriot Act and MANY other very bad pieces of legislation. The GOP is a disaster. For many years I was a Ronald Reagan Republican but not any more. Lastly, are you going to deny that Palin supported the Bush bailout in the fall of 2008? She thinks like a socialist and an internationalist. It is one thing to say that a candidate supports the beliefs of the Founders. It is quite another to actually do it. The Founders would have made MAJOR cuts in the federal government and brought all U.S. troops home from every country in the world, now. That is definitely not Palin's position.

    • rosech

      Well, golly, thanks to you we have Obama. Smart people vote for the person with values and in this last election there was only Romney. So, not voting for him, meant you voted for Obama. We are sooo appreciative of your non-effort! I am not a Repub and left that party years ago and became an Independent. Being in CA, I have to change for this election but am back to being an Independent again. Whew! I don't like the so-called Repub moderates (ain't no such thing) and the RINOS. They are just as leftist as the Demos, except or the few that we, the Tea Party and Palin managed to get in in November. Without RINOS supporting the Senate candidates, they knew they would not take over the Senate. That told me they are Reid and Obama supporters and screw us.

    • tampapatriot

      Ron you act like supporting the Bush bailouts is a non-qualifier. Those bailouts were made by H. Paulsen advising Bush that we were in a bank
      crisis. Apparently someone had hacked into our treasurery. Even dems were on board for that transaction. So quit making like it was a world stopping event that Palin supported the bailouts. That's so lame.

    • TheBigGeezer

      and 93% of the Bush bailouts have been paid back... be sure you don't confuse obama's stimulus... two completely different ideals.

    • PatriTEA

      People: Ron's showing his true "blue" colors, stolen just like the Dems & leftist media stole the the election colors from the Repubs after several elections ago (After Nixon?)

    • http://www.facebook.com/gene.r.swank Gene R Swank

      Go drink some more of your drug enhanced kool aid and leave the American Patriots alone. You threw your vote away by voting for someone who didnt stand a chance of winning. Shows you have no brain at all!!!!

    • Ron Bedell

      I voted my conscience. And if you and a lot more Americans did the same we could have someone a lot better than Barry or Romney in there. Barry and Romney are one in the same. Both have past records of supporting big government and internationalism/globalism.

    • Ron Bedell

      What have you been drinking? Romney = Obama/Barry. They both support the New World Order and big government. And the Republicans get away with a lot more than what you think. Man you need to do your homework! I would be throwing my vote away if I voted for Romney!

    • expect

      The founders didnt have the problems we have over there pulling out is just gonna bring it here in a major way

    • Ron Bedell

      I agree. The Founders did not have the international problems that we have today. But we have to ask, why do we have these international problems today? We have these problems because we do not adhere to the advice of the Founders. The best thing we could is stop occupying their countries. Let them alone. We cause far more problems when we occupy their countries. And let's not forget that the Elites run the federal government and they own the Federal Reserve. The Elites plan and cause all these problems. It is time to obey the constitution and adhere to the advice of the Founders.

    • Edward53

      Virgil Goode? Do you mean the man who had no chance in hell of winning (like Ron Paul and Gary Johnson)? The man that most Americans had never even heard of? Thanks to people like you we now have Obama for another four years or longer. Man, what a great American you are, Ron. You voted your conscience and look what that got us, Ron.....Communism. You all can make whatever excuses you want but you are responsible for the end of the American way of life as we once knew it. Way to go!!

    • Ron Bedell

      Did you want me to vote for your communism candidate, Mitt Romney? What do you think Mitt is? He is a big government socialist and internationalist. And he supports all ten points of the Communist Manifesto. Americans had NO choice in this election so why not vote our conscience. This election was definitely not about the lesser of two evils because Barry and Mitt are both evil.

    • Ron Bedell

      Everything that I said about Sarah Palin is true and you know it! Man you people need to do your homework better concerning Sarah Palin. She is a socialist and an internationalist.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OXEUPLQP5N3NWO72YU6KUTFHFA Vern

      She might be a Rino, but she sure ain't a Muslim.

    • sonny

      She's not even a RINO. She is honest and loves her country. If I was Sarah, I would not even WANT to be president. The boneheaded liberals like Ron don't deserve a good president. Maybe after 4 more years of
      obama crap they will learn something but I doubt it. You just can't fix STUPID. I'm just glad it isn't CATCHING.

    • tampapatriot

      Sarah is NO rino. She took on the power elite of Repubs in Alaska and the big oil cos. while she was Gov. The dems were tying her up in court with totally false accusations that would have bankrupted Alaska, thus she resigned, but make no mistake she was a great governor. Never in our history has one political party, the demrats, attempted to demonize any one person has they did Sarah. She is stronger and wiser now. As McCain's VP she wasn't allowed to answer her attackers. Now she is free to do so and I have no doubt she could and would! ! !
      Sarah i

    • 44rd11

      Nope, Palin is a Republican - a RINO is someone dressing up like a Republican - like the Tea Party or LIbertarians.

    • rosech

      I belong to the Tea Party and your ignorance is really showing. You obviously know nothing about the TP. Go to a real TP meeting and see diversity but love of America and what we need to do to get it back on track. However, only patriotic Americans are working for America and you are obviously not a patriotic American. Sad, sad, sad!

    • sonny

      I disagree. That is the kind of thinking that put got obama elected.
      You just can't fix stupid.

    • fryer01

      have YOU noticed what is sitting in that empty chair???? the worse of the universe!!!!ANYTHING WITH A BRAIN could do a better job.!!!!!

    • expect

      when a russian news paper says americans are ignorant for putting him back in office then you know where stupid

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bfd-Boston/535711024 Bfd Boston

      She did not support the bailout. Her hands are free of dc bailout and corruption.....you must be thinking of john mccain, not Sarah.

    • Ron Bedell

      You are right. She did not vote for that bailout because she was not a member of Congress. But she verbally supported it. She was promoting it. Also, in the fall of 2008 Palin fully endorsed McCain for President. Why would she do that knowing that McCain is a hard line liberal and internationalist? I believe you are right. Her hands are free and clean. Yes. But she supports the candidates who support corruption, bailouts, socialism, and internationalism. And I am convinced that if she were elected President she would surround herself with members of the CFR and Trilateral Commission just as Reagan did in the 1980s. Lastly, if you listen to her she talks just like an internationalist or a globalist. She is a globalist.

    • DCW16

      Ron . . . lol . . .
      She was the Vice-Presidential CANDIDATE fool . . . naturally she supported McLaim . . .
      What's the weather like today in stooopidtown Ron?

    • Mik

      She is one of a few true Americans left in this country, and that's her main qualification to be a strong candidate in my book

    • ProudAmerican247

      "Palin is another Rino?" BS! and you know it.
      "Sudden and Relentless Reform" is what we need. Palin did it in Alaska. Results....80%+ Approval Rating from Alaskans. Poll taken...most popular Governor in the U.S. at the time. Chew on that for awhile.

    • Ron Bedell

      Really. Then why did the big government Republican Party establishment pick Sarah Palin to be McCain's running mate in 2008? And why did Palin endorse McCain for President in 2008. McCain is a well known big government Republican; he is very liberal! Palin verbally supported the Bush bailout in the fall of 2008. Plus, Palin would support the big government Republican Party on all their international ventures to crash the dollar. She is an internationalist/ globalist. Our dollar is about to crash. Thanks to the unconstitutional Federal Reserve and the unconstitutional spending policies of the big government Republicans and the big government Democrats. We are heading straight into the New World Order/world government. Palin would support all of this. Let me guess. You are trying to turn the Presidential campaign into a Miss America contest. Ok, now it is time for you to do some chewing.

    • ProudAmerican247

      The usual insane ranting drivel from a lunatic Lib. Go chew on some whale blubber, moron.

    • Ron Bedell

      Ok, this is my last post for the ignorant, "ProudAmerican247". I guess when you cannot face the truth you resort to name calling and you cannot hold an intelligent discussion with anybody. So, hopefully some truth will get through your head and start sinking in this time. Ok, this is what a true patriot would have done. Abolish the unconstitutional Federal Reserve (central bank); abolish the unconstitutional graduated federal income tax; abolish the unconstitutional IRS; and bring all U.S. troops home from every country in the world, now, This is exactly what the Founders would have done. Furthermore, the Founders would have, also, abolished all the big government, New World Order legislation that your beloved big government Republicans have passed. And I will name a few here: NAFTA, GATT, FTAA, Patriot Act, wire tapping legislation, Military Commissions Act of 2006, NDAA, Every thing that I have listed above is definitely not the position of your beloved Sarah Palin. Palin supports the New World Order. Our dollar is crashing and is about to be replaced with a one world currency thanks to the unconstitutional and big government policies of the Federal Reserve, Republicans, and Democrats. The federal government has grown far beyond the limitations of the U.S. Constitution and at least 90% of it needs to be cut back,now. With the exception of Ron Paul I don't know any other Republican candidate who would even begin to accomplish this. Certainly not Rand Paul, he endorsed big government Rino, Mitt Romney.

    • Edward53

      Ron Paul was the classic RINO because he was never a Republican. No Republican that I know of would ever be a terrorist supporter like Ron Paul and his cult. They blame the Israeli's for everything but give the murderous Palestinians, Hamas and Hezbollah a free pass. Can you say "anti-semite?"

    • Ron Bedell

      Ron Paul is a RINO. Really! That is first time I heard that. Ron Paul was the only Republican candidate that took a stand for the constitution and restoring your God given rights. All the other Republican candidates supported big government and internationalism/globalism. Globalism is the biggest enemy of Christianity and the world because it paves the way for the anti-Christ. I would say Ron Paul is more pro-Israel that any of the big government Republican candidates. Ron Paul just wants to leave Israel alone; let them make their own decisions. Israel is an independent nation and they are a very powerful nation. The United States Government needs to "butt out" and mind their own business. The U.S. Government causes far more problems than what they solve. The U.S. Government is leading the world into this Satanic New World Order.

    • Texana

      Voter Fraud MUST be eradicated.
      THEN we can win!

    • PatrioTEA

      You nailed it square on the head!

    • Dissenter

      Voter suppression was the only way you carried Florida in 2000, and voter fraud (in the counting) was the only way you carried Ohio in 2004. What you fail to recognize is that demographics are not on your side. 2012 was the last stand for the Republican Party's present coalition.

    • MyronJPoltroonian

      The "voter Fraud" in Florida was the Florida supreme court trying to change the rules after the election. That had to be stopped cold in it's tracks, or a terrible nationwide election precedent would've been set.

    • Dissenter

      You're breathing from Drugs Limpbaugh's tailpipe. The "intent of the voter" standard Florida was using was the same one which has been used from California to Maine for a hundred years. And whatever happened to states' rights? How a state counted its votes used to be the state's business -- which is why the Gang of Five refuse to let Bush v. Gore stand as a precedent. It was a brazen coup d'etat.

    • expect

      there u go

    • Mik

      Very true Texana

    • medivac

      Find the responsible and wack the huevos off with a dull hacksaw blade and disinfect with Jose Cuevo !! Followed by a 15 year prison sentence !!

    • washington22

      You speak the truth. We can't have another election and expect to win if the entire system isn't changed. It's set to win Democrat.........Everyone, please get involved and share just how and what you are doing to make changes. We must cream them in 2014.........

    • ProudAmerican247

      When Republicans have a decent candidate runnin' who can FIRE UP a crowd and doesn't say something stupid, they win every time.
      We need to take over the Senate in 2014. That's the next step!

    • expect

      yes we need too we can

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OXEUPLQP5N3NWO72YU6KUTFHFA Vern

      Lets us hope that after four more with Obama there is even a country to preside
      over.

    • fryer01

      it will be gone !!!!!

    • Canadianlady

      After the huge let down of November 6, dare we hope that Sarah Palin can win in 2016?

    • bgsnowski

      Lets not give up hope

    • expect

      I like alot but she would be wasting her time they would never nominate her

    • fryer01

      i agree.....she would be the best...no libia behind her like hillary...hill is all washed up..just a mess to look at and a disgrace to america...she NEVER told the truth...while she sat and watched those men die!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Patricia-Peloquin/100000963766152 Patricia Peloquin

      My brother, who voted for Obama in 2008, recently said he would vote for Sarah Palin. There are probably many others. She added excitement to the McCain ticket. I agree with others that she was so demonized because she was so feared. A lot of Ron Paul's former supporters would probably go for her, as well as the conservatives who stayed home. Her cable show(s) have shown she has "balls" and is fearless and they haven't been able to dig up dirt on her (though they illegally went through all her emails while Alaska's governor). We need a true conservative and support to get Republican Secretaries of State in many more states (since George Soros has been getting Dems in office who do not try to stop voter fraud, or even get rid of dead people and felons from their voter rolls. Maybe they can push to get military votes counted, not left in warehouses "accidentally." What fraud!!!

    • caskinner

      I would vote for her in a heartbeat.

    • sonny

      I would vote for her in a heartbeat, also BUT there are just too many
      ignorant, stupid people in this country. They have proven that TWICE
      now. If I was Sarah Palin, I would not WANT to be president of a country that has shown so much ignorance, complete lack of class and animosity
      toward her. They aren't fit to have a good leader.

    • davienne

      there is alot of people that would vote for her

    • lyndaaquarius

      Sarah Palin's Presidency will reawaken our pride as Americans. She's got our nation's back and we've got hers.

    • Frank629

      to sunny........ yes but Palin is a constitutional patriot

    • who done it

      i would vote for her too in a heart beat.

    • idesign2

      The Palin army marches on, picking up recruits along the way..:)

    • Caribou "QUIT" Barbie™

      Ha! Only on the FOX NEWS

    • 44rd11

      and they picked Romney for this session.

    • davienne

      the Bilderberg picked Romney... just like they picked McCain..McCain was set up to lose.... Romney was supposed to pick Rubio for vp, but he went with Ryan.... McCain was supposed to pick Huntsman..he didnt .. he went with Sarah Palin..... they took their own road and both lost.... i had a tough time getting with romney because he lost to McCain and McCain lost to obama... see the pattern ???... PS>>>>>> I VOTED FOR ROMNEY

    • washington22

      Just WHERE do you get your INSIDE information? Seriously?

    • davienne

      if you doubt it.... look it up... bilderberg.com...

    • Edward53

      Another Ron Paul conspiracy theory?

    • ProudAmerican247

      Mittens was rammed down our throats by the gopE. Two million shoved him back up their A***S in retaliation.
      gopE better learn not to screw with us.

    • expect

      i like newt he had the brass too take there crab

    • medivac

      You should keep a fast pace in your walk because if you look over your shoulder you'll see a vast army of Palin supporters just about to run over you and your puny thoughts!!

    • Caribou "QUIT" Barbie™

      I doubt that.

    • medivac

      ---And Thomas doubted , also !!

    • /.murphy

      I doubt that too. Too many Americans are still educated. You may have to wait a generation.

    • medivac

      Educated is the wrong word for the new so called Americans !! Indoctrinated is the right word !! If a war breaks out here in the U.S., they will be the first to fall and more than likely from a back shot.

    • MyronJPoltroonian

      With a trade mark like that, I'm certain you're one of George's minions - George Soros, that is.

    • medivac

      He is that !!

    • Caribou "QUIT" Barbie™

      Yea.
      That's the ticket. I work for Soros.

    • hjjusa

      True, but only the ones who don't want their freebies

    • http://www.facebook.com/msbarkhurst Mark S. Barkhurst

      Palin doesn't have an army to march on with. Since you're a frequent commenter on C4P, look and notices how many different people actually leave comments. I once did a count once, but I noticed looking how many people there are now and it's far fewer than there was before. Looking at how many different people are leaving comments now is probably around 50 to 75. Is that the army you're referring to? Palin doesn't have anywhere near the number of followers you think she has.

    • ProudAmerican247

      "Palin doesn't have anywhere near the number of followers you think she has."
      -------------------------------------
      How do YOU know?
      We'll find out when she announces that she's running for President of the United States in 2016.
      The Tea Party is HUGE and hate ta tell ya, but Sarah Palin is the Leader of that Movement.
      After 8 years of the Marxist JackA**, Sarah Palin will be lookin' pretty doggone damn good to an ARMY of like-minded Freedom Fighters.
      Let's Roll!
      PALIN POWER 2016

    • /.murphy

      LOL! The way you throw that word around, you obviously have no idea what a Marxist is. It has a very specific meaning. What is it that makes Obama a Marxist, anyway? Was it the way he nationalized all the oil companies when they spiked gas prices during a recession? Was it the way he nationalized the top 500 US corporations? Maybe it was the way he forcibly eliminated political opposition? Or set up labor camps?
      ... You're living in a fantasy world.

    • idesign2

      Hey Sparky, you need to check out other web sites like HotAir, RightScoop and others. Check out Mediaite for Palin's power ranking. Or better yet, just use Google...LOL

    • Caribou "QUIT" Barbie™

      Hurry! There a palin thread at mediaite!!

    • washington22

      Ditto, Patricia..............it all comes down to the voter fraud. We MUST put a stop to the bastardization of our vote..........

    • 44rd11

      Yes, and the sky could fall too.

    • sonny

      It's sad that the people have to have 8 years of misery before they FINALLY
      LEARN. Those people deserve their problems; however, they will just blame Bush while the ship continues to go down. They are just that ignorant and
      hardheaded.

    • marys1000

      They will still blame Republicans for what is going on. And if we don't fight to impeach Obama and get Holder out so our laws are enforced to open the 7+ million jobs illegals still have and stop the murders, rapes, identity theft and other crimes committed by illegals, our country may not survive! The cost exceeds $1BILLION dollars every year and that will more than double if the illegals here are allowed to stay! And if Holder is replaced, that person must also be forced out so the job is done!

    • medivac

      Sarah was the strong point in the campaign back in 2008. Many don't like her because she is a woman and they don't think she is tough enough. I fought in Vietnam and will fight along side Sarah if she chooses to run. We need to weigh her against what might come from the left. She doesn't ride the broom like the probable opponent from the left does. She is more earth bound.

    • danimal

      If she can keep her head out of her cute little ass, and stick to her guns, I would cast my vote(s) for her

    • expect

      mitt should of picked Rubio

    • okihadit

      so true!

    • Nadine

      They dig up dirt that wasn't even dirt & had spies next door to her HOME! They can't demonize her any more than they have & she'd be ready to FIGHT BACK! She's got more qualifications than BO & has BALLS!!

    • alex

      don't forget the mccain campaign supplied a lot of that dirt

    • remajohn

      And that's exactly why they do not want her. I mean the Republicans!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/M2CWPZRUEIAHYN7EH4F3USL2QQ 890Robert Martin

      Here, Here well said!!!!!!!

    • Susy

      Republicans demonized her too. She was a threat to their power and would actually follow the Constitution.

    • del

      O please....we must roust him out of there now!

    • PatrioTEA

      He's in there for life now, unless he is allowed to step up to run the UN & OWG.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PTIF6KGUK7QASUBRKKR5A6LM2Q Tod

      Dosen't matter if Sarah Palin runs or not, Nobody can change what's going to happen to us unless We all repent,and We All know that's not going to happen.

    • medivac

      While there is some truth in what you say, it does not give a reason to surrender the fort way before we have fought the battle. Just reading what you typed really gives one the idea that you didn't even bother to vote in the presidential election. I will never give up until i have no means to resist !!

    • washington22

      I'm with you, medivac...........I've been really discouraged, licking my wounds actually, over our loss, but I'm re-grouping now and getting back my fight. Our nation is too good to give up on. We have to get into the electoral system and make the changes, It is there that we are losing. The cheating and fraud is killing us............I think we need to start with our state's attroney, don't you? I think of Pam Bondi and wish that I lived in Florida, but alas, I'm in California. But other state attorneys can be approached for changes in the electoral system..........how the counting is done, voter ID, mail in ballots, and military voters.............None of this is safe. We need to share results and info............

    • medivac

      Pam Bond really impresses me and would be my first choice as AG. I'm one of the people that would trash the electoral college and go by popular vote and back the truck up on the voting machines since they obviously can be rigged just like a slot machine !! I am one that could have voted but mail but choose to show my driver's license in person . I would also like to see some sort of finger in ink dipping like the muslim elections have had. At least I can see some good come out of them !! In short, a multi-layered
      voting system change !! There are so many ways the system of voting is flawed !!

    • sonny

      What is really sad is the fact that so many ppl (apparently the majority) don't care enough about this country (and are too ignorant) to put Sarah Palin in the W/H. The gov't is not the only demon. It's the stupid liberals and the "freebie"
      crowd and they're going to ruin this country. The re-election of obama may have been the final nail in the coffin of a free America and the people did it.

    • Niggishzidda

      You are correct. I knew too many that from the news media did not like her and Romney I blame the GOP and the TEA Party for sitting there doing nothing as the dem just tore us and county apart. So my question "Are we really sure that they have not secretly joined the dems cause it certainly acts and looks it.

    • expect

      rubio should picked sarah should of been on the seen ryan in the mix

    • expect

      oh let me not forget michelle

    • Areminder

      Bachmann, RIGHT? To many rumors of michelle obama running. Wouldn't that be a contest? Either Palin or Bachmann against m o?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Tarashe-Bernard/1164071780 James Tarashe Bernard

      What! I'm from Fla and Marco is no conservative! Don't be fooled.

    • Areminder

      There's been a "Ruling Class" made up of the elite from both parties for quite a while, time for Conservatives to legally set up there own party just so we do actually have an opposition party. boehnerr and the boys are too busy playing dem-lite, to make the attempt.

    • Dissenter

      Actually, we were frightened by the prospect of that helium-headed bimbette with her finger on the button. It's not that we don't care about the country but rather, that if you and your ilk were in charge, it would become a Third World hellhole that just wasn't worth living in.

    • DCW16

      "Many in the mainstream media poked fun of his film character that played opposite a Chimpanzee in the 1951 “Bedtime for Bonzo” movie. "
      And now we know who Bonzo is . . . and he has his finger on the BUTTON ! ! !
      Palin has way more "smarts" than any dimmicrap . . . including Hitlery ! ! !

    • Dissenter

      And she demonstrated her Wasilla Hillbillies community college education on the campaign trail, every time she didn't have her speeches written for her. She'd be great tied up to a bed buck-nekkid with a ball in her mouth -- no one wants to her her speak -- but giving interviews to a Katie Couric, not so much. She had her chance, and failed to impress.

    • Dawn Garland

      I want to hear her---and if you actually cared about AMERICA you would stop making fun and put your mouth to good use!

    • Dissenter

      Keeping a brain-dead bimbette like Palin from the levers of power IS putting my mouth to good use. I care about America, which is why I criticize her.

    • expect

      oh please she has more smarts in pinky then obama hes good at slander lies getting over hes a lawyer

    • Progressive Republican

      Umm... no.

    • http://www.facebook.com/bonnie.boyles.1 Bonnie Boyles

      Don't speak for all of us. I was impressed and think she just keeps getting better and better and better. She's a patriot and speaks very well. No need for a TelePrompTer there.

    • Dissenter

      Especially, when she writes her notes on her hand. :)

      I expected a lot more of her, having watched her debate at the state level. While she knows a lot about the few things she cares about, world affairs and basic economics do not appear to be among them. Steve Schmidt -- a key McCain campaign strategist -- confirmed everything we suspected in Game Change.

    • ProudAmerican247

      Your Boyfriend, b.o., yeah, the man-child has to read his speeches of a teleprompter. Even needed one for a kindergarten get-together.

    • Dissenter

      At least, he has been known to write his own speeches.

      Obama has the 'nads to do hostile interviews like OhReally?, whereas Caribou Barbie would never be caught dead in Rachel Maddow's lair. Paul "2:50-something" Ryan ran in terror from local interviewers because they kept asking difficult questions, and even he had courage when compared to her.

    • Areminder

      3 words, OBAMA OFF TELEPROMPTER!

    • http://twitter.com/galleryshops Erma Jay

      Palin barely finished high school. You may hate president Obama, but make no mistake about it, he was much more educated than Palin is now when he was in the 6th grade. Sarah Palin is not very bright. I think that's what McCain said about Susan Rice, a woman with a Phd. A Rhodes Scholar is much brighter that most Republican or Democratic congressmen.

    • Progressive Republican

      Look at how many colleges she had to go to to get her Bachelor's. Pathetic.

    • walnut39@tds.net

      I'l bet Sarah had more smarts in her senior year in high school than Obuma has now even IF he dose have diplomas from Ivy League schools. You don't KNOW if he has these diplomas, do you. I'll bet he didn't show them to you either, did he? You poor failing idiot!!

    • Progressive Republican

      AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Thanks for the laugh! I really needed that.

    • Areminder

      Look at the woman who paid for it herself, instead of making Daddy or a communist group like the one who funds the Rhode's Scholarships! Sometimes if you're working your way through it takes longer.

    • Progressive Republican

      "instead of making Daddy..." Y'mean like Rmoney?

      "or a communist group like the one who funds the Rhode's Scholarships!" How did you arrive to that conclusion?

      Unlike Clinton (whom you obliquely cite) or Obama, Palin was, at best, an unremarkable student, She claims to have attended the University of Hawaii in Hilo but left because it wan't sunny enough. The institution has no record of her ever even registering there.

      From there she transferred to Hawaii Pacific College in Honolulu where she lasted a whole semester this time before transferring again to North Idaho College in Coeur d'Alene where she made it through a whole year. None of her professors remember her.

      This was followed by yet ANOTHER transfer; this time to Matanuska- Susitna Community College in Palmer, Alaska for only one semester.

      I could go on, but meh. Palin switched colleges 6 times in 6 years. None of them had entrance requirements. I suppose her collegiate trail is impressive in it's own way. Or, it could be viewed as pathetic. Impressively pathetic? Pathetically impressive? I report. You decide.

    • walnut39@tds.net

      all of you educated idiots talk the same kind of crap and I mean ALL of you. Obama has the highest IQ of any of our previous presidents and didn't know anything when he started and sure as hell didn't learn anything during his first four years. AND, he still doesn't know how to tell the truth. Because of his hidden records no one knew anything about him. He was and still is the most failure ridden "boy" ever to have stayed over night at the WH. And I didn't mean "boy" because of his color! We don't know IF he even has a diploma, Progressive Republican below he has way to many secrets and NO common sense intelligence. We found out he didn't have much to start with didn't we!!

    • Areminder

      Money can buy anything EXCEPT intelligence, that comes from the ability to process that education and put it to work in real life. That's where most of your hero's fall flat. Look at benghazi, that's the dealing of all your hero's and they're doing the exact same thing in Syria and just admitted it. Palin would never run guns or other weapons to el queda who have vowed to destroy us!

    • /.murphy

      LOL!

    • http://twitter.com/redpens68 Gary

      You mean the Third World hellhole we're rapidly becoming under Obama? This country needs a leader, and it sure as hell isn't him. The country needs Sarah Palin and others like her

    • Dissenter

      What are your specific objections to him as a leader, other than he is a ni666666-- er, um? While he allowed himself to be snookered once by Republican blackmail, he has learned from his mistakes. He has shone as CinC, saving GM while getting bin Laden. He has gotten us into two less wars than his predecessor, liberating Libya in the way that we should have dealt with Afghanistan (according to old soldier Rep. Mike Coffman (R-CO)). He has shown the ability to play chess with the best of them -- judging by her genuinely disastrous performance in the '08 campaign, as beautifully chronicled by veteran Republican operative Steve Schmidt, Caribou Barbie would be hard-pressed to understand checkers.

      It's not about his "leadership skills," now is it? You have a vision of a Ayn Randian utopia that never actually was and truthfully, could never be, am I right? You lost the election; get over it.

    • 44rd11

      "liberating Libya" - what - so they can kill four Americans?

    • Dissenter

      An interesting thing happened in the wake of the Benghazi incident: The Libyan people took to the street to condemn the attack, saying en masse, "They're not with us!" See also, the incident involving Malala Yousufzai, and the Green Revolution in Iran. The Middle East is changing, and we need to be on the right side of history. Obama gets it. You duct-tape-hoarding rightards with amygdalas the size of grapefruit will never get it, which is why it is better to have Obama in the center seat than Caribou Barbie.

    • Areminder

      You're standing on the wrong side of the mirror again. The window's to the right (and I don't mean Republican side.) If this country doesn't get rid of 90% of the laws and regulations, we're nearly to the 3rd world, but they're being given most of everything we had as it is. Read above about b o giving the 2 soros owned oil companies money while blocking our energy independence. Remember when the new coal regulations kick in a large percentage of American Electric Plants must shut down. Coming next month! Where will we get that electricity. This country will look like present day Detroit.

    • har82

      Actually ,, it was the bought off , and paid for ,, - electoral college - that did it lol.
      Seems to me a lot of people stayed home this year...And those , would be the doers ,, of this country. But make no mistake,, they are ,, there ....
      Now that we know the GOP , is as bad as the enemy, all they need is someone with enough gall,, to stand up and be counted

    • Southern Girl

      Well, the electoral college hasn't voted yet. They can vote whichever way they want to. Wouldn't it be amazing if the majority voted for Romney? I guess we can dream....

    • har82

      They will all ,, confirm. Even when they - all - know he is not eligible. So much for our Constitution ,, huh.

    • Greg137

      Sorry, but there was mass galore of VOTER FRAUD, so I would not blame the people COMPLETELY! Romney was close to victory too.. But Romney also did NOTHING to inspire the conservative base and bring many core faction of the party together... IF the people did anything is that they listened too much to the Left-wing media.... The left-wing media needs to be turned off, and I would look at their sponsors and try shoppuing elswhere for goods.. If enough advertisers drop the liberal news media, then the Left wing media would starve...

    • http://twitter.com/galleryshops Erma Jay

      Greg137: The left-wing media needs to be turned off,*************** Won't happen. Then what would there be to listen to but the right wing media. Everyone has a right to listen the program of their choice. I listen to Fox occasionally, but I wouldn't want to only be able to listen the wing of the Republican party.

    • Southern Girl

      I do not listen to any of the main stream media anymore. I quit listening to ABC news and the others when they went so giddy over Obama in 2008. Fox News and talk radio ONLY for me.

    • Areminder

      But, Fox has become Oliver Milque Toast lately. Try the Blaze TV either on the internet, or Dish.

    • CalifTaxPayer

      Karl Rowe is behind the scenes making sure REAL CONSERVATIVES do not win the Primaries. He is nothing but a RINO and does NO GOOD for the party. Believe me he is a schemer and is a secret participant in demonizing Conservatives.

    • Dissenter

      What part of "We don't want your Talibani theocracy" do you not understand?

    • DCW16

      With the present admin . . . you may get your wish . . . I hear Wallymart is having a special on prayer rugs . . . got your's yet?

    • expect

      I dont think that i think he doesnt believe conseratives have a shot bowing down is not what we need

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Floyd-Wilson/661599488 Floyd Wilson

      Wouldn't she have to be able to spell constitution first?

    • TheBigGeezer

      very cute floyd... I'd put Palins intellect up against any liberal/democrat in Washington today (especially rice, clinton, pelosi). Give us a name of one intellectually bright lib... because of their flawed and inept ideology you've already lost this debate.

    • /.murphy

      The problem with Sarah is that she talks. Remember when she said this: "I think it's appalling and a violation of our freedom of the press," when she was speaking about the negative media coverage of Republican congressional candidate Vaughn Ward? Clearly her so-called "intellect" is telling her that anything she disagrees with must be a violation of the First Amendment. And that's what you want in the White House? LOL! (Palin's statement was made in Boise, Idaho, on May 21, 2010.)

    • ProudAmerican247

      I've been in "57" states now, two more to go.
      If a kid has asma he may need a "breathalyzer"
      ---------------------------------------
      Your intellectual boyfriend, b.o., babbled this.
      Maybe ya wanna back off.

    • /.murphy

      No idea what you're talking about... and did you mean "asthma"? You must be a new immigrant. Just a reminder--we speak English in America.

    • http://twitter.com/redpens68 Gary

      Don't forget O talked about the Navy Corpse-man too

    • medivac

      A liberal can't spell "Constitution" but can readily spell prostitution since they are so good at selling their wears off to the voters. The big difference is that a prostitute actually can use herself in various ways for her pay where as a liberal politician is only good for mouth service !!

    • Smeethow

      Liberals are really only good at giving away someone else's money .

    • Mistertea

      A Republican clearly can't spell "wares". Can it, medivac, before you make yourself completely ridiculous.

    • medivac

      It's corrected misterpee.

    • Progressive Republican

      Too late.

    • http://twitter.com/redpens68 Gary

      Wouldn't Obama need to pronounce corpsman correctly?

    • har82

      No Susy, the GOP ,,, demonized her, Not us ...

    • ilpatriot58

      The republicans who demonized her are the rinos we need to get rid of right now!!!! They have to go starting with the next election cycle & by starving the rnc of money so they have to go elsewhere for their goodies.......

    • http://twitter.com/galleryshops Erma Jay

      Actually, Sarah Palin doesn't even know the constitution. She knows about the first, second and fourteenth. I have a copy of the constitution and I've noticed that those people talk only about 3 amendments. They sometimes mention the 22 amendment. They mainly talk about Freedom of Speech, The right to bear arms, and things relating to fetal rights.

    • Areminder

      It would be wonderful to see her clean the crap out of that (not so) little cesspool on the Potomoc and try to restore our Constitution. The question is, "Will there be enough of a country left in 2016, and if so, will there even be elections.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Tarashe-Bernard/1164071780 James Tarashe Bernard

      Sure she could run. If there is an election!

    • http://www.facebook.com/fk2dickie Richard Allen

      you must be on drugs, "She has brains, the ability, the experience, the honesty and the love of country..." You couldn't believe this, not the Palin that I saw. lol smh malarkey

    • klesb

      Sarah Palin should be the presidential nominee of the revitalized Constitutiion Party. We conservatives are wasting our time with a party that does not want us, tries to damage and defeat us, yet wants our votes at election time. How insulting!
      Where is there any realistic plan to throw out the RINO establishment? Nowhere!
      It is past time for conservatives to move on to a brand that has not been terminally sullied!
      Conservatives are the majority of voters still, but we have no political party representing our interests. Time to make one!
      Sarah! Meet with the true conservative pundits, and y'all make a public statement that y'all are moving to the Constitution Party. That will start the movement, which willl become a tsunami. The frustration levels are astounding in the blogosphere! We just leadership that offers us some real hope!
      Such a move needs to start with some momentum - and a statement from y'all is essential. A single voice would not work, but with some clear consensus of our leaders would.
      If y'all are, in fact, "leaders"!
      Using an existing political infrastructure, we can be the new majority party by November 2014!
      Let's roll!

    • Texana

      We've got to get rid of the Voter Fraud FIRST People!!!!!

    • klesb

      How about we do both together!
      Let's walk and chew gum at the same time!

    • 44rd11

      what voter fraud - ???

    • sonny

      We also have to get rid of the STUPID people. They put him up there, TWICE. What is to keep them from doing it a THIRD time??

    • catman

      CONSTITUTION PARTY !!!! Damn but I like the sound of that. Sort of just rolls of the tongue with a musical sound. When is the first convention?? Don't even have to write a platform. It's all there in the Constitution itself.

    • 44rd11

      YOU see, YOU are the RINO - the Republicans are NOT conservatives. So YOU are the Republican In Name Only

    • chetohimler

      Very nicely said, and I agree.

    • windandfire

      Amen. I agree. Come on Sarah!!!

    • merriel

      I would vote for Sarah Palin in a heartbeat. She has morals, conviction, honesty and she loves this country. I really believe that she could have defeated Obumba.

    • stev38rs3

      Levy, you hit the nail on the
      head. Sarah Palin is GOP’s response in kind to any Democratic nominee in 2016.

    • Dissenter

      The practical problem with the half-term beauty-queen governor of Alaska (population: San Bernardino) is that she has been defined, and nine in ten see her as a cartoonish fop. We'll all remember the Couric interview, and her inability to identify even a single newspaper that she read regularly. A lot of us have seen Game Change and heard Steve Schmidt's assessment of her. And you certainly don't develop any gravitas pontificating mindlessly on the Fox Republican Channel.

      You may not realize this, but the only candidate the Dems feared was Jon Huntsman. Romney had a trail of manure behind him that would have filled in the Grand Canyon and, had it not been for his going Etch-A-Sketch in the Denver debate and Obama's letting him, it would have been even more of a blow-out than it was, despite all of the gerrymandering and voter suppression.

      Social conservatives have to get it through their heads that it is their message that the American people reject, not their candidates. Mike Huckabee would be smoother than Palin, and carry less baggage. The alternative is Chris Christie, who has proven that he is a competent administrator -- unlike Sarah the Drama Queen.

    • Dissenter

      Actually, Jay, it is called "vetting." I thought Sarah was going to be more formidable, judging from her debates in Alaska. But while she understood Alaska's unique issues well, Alaska is a bit removed from the real world. If she had made it through two terms as governor and tried to learn a little bit about what goes on below the 60th parallel, she would be taken more seriously in 2016. But I don't think she cares overmuch, as she has finally become a star and rode that wave of fame.

      Steve Schmidt's assessment of her was damning. "What in God's name have I done?"

    • TheOracle

      Romney didn't lose the election, the Democrats and their ilk, with the help of the Evangelicals who stayed home...STOLE the election. There was rampart voter fraud in every state that did not have a voter ID requirement. Blacks were bussed to Maine into an all white city and demanded to be allowed to vote in that city even when they didn't live in the State of Maine. Illegals and Somalians were bussed into several states to illegally vote for Obama. In Pennsylvania, 59 Precinct's, not one vote for Romney...not possible. These are only a few examples of how fraudulent this so-called "election" was. The United States has now become a third world country in it's elections thanks to the treacherous Democrats. Obama, Axelrod and the Democrats stole this past election and I hope very single one of them pay dearly for it. God Willing! As to the Evangelicals, apparently, they preferred a Muslim to a Mormon which only added to the fiasco of this fraudulent election.

    • MHR

      Go Sarah Go. These Guys 'Men' are messing it all up. It needs a Woman's Touch.

      Conservative Republican MHR

    • expect

      yea sarah newt michelle paul