Israeli Science: Obama Birth Certificate Is A Fake


110531vogt10Former science adviser to Israeli Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel Hanukoglu, Ph.D. created the website Israel Science and Technology, which is a national database and directory of science and technology-related websites in Israel. Recently, they have produced a report that is both scientific and technological in regards Barack Obama’s birth certificate that has been uploaded to WhiteHouse.gov.

Mr. Hanukoglu is not just some reporter or some “birther” as many have been identified as. Instead he is an award-winning researcher, a professor of biochemistry and molecular biology in the Department of Molecular Biology at Ariel University Center of Samaria in Ariel, Israel.

The website reports,

Since this is a site of Science and technology, there is a need to explain why this site dedicates a page to expose forgery about a document related to Mr. Barack Hussein Obama. Mr. Obama is the President of the USA that is currently the leader of the Free World, and the most powerful country in the Western hemisphere. In his position as the President, the policies pursued by Mr. Obama affects the whole world and not just the USA.

Because of the persisting controversy about his eligibility, On April 27, 2011 the Office of the President at the White House released a document that is called “Long-Form Birth Certificate”. The release of this simple document, after two years of controversy, raised in our minds the possibility that there could be something suspicious about the information available on this document. To check this, we downloaded the document that was posted at the White House site at http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf.

The analyses presented below reveal without a doubt that the Long-Form Birth Certificate of Mr. Obama is a fabricated, fake and forged document.

The publication of such a blatantly fake document about something so basic as the birthplace of Mr. Obama, should raise great concern about the suitability of the person who is holding the reigns on the most powerful country of the World.

Moreover, the lack of action on the part of the members of the United States House of Representatives and Senate, as well as the courts of the United States, despite many previous appeals to these three branches of American government, also raise a concern about how the governmental institutions of the reputedly best, and certainly the most important democracy in the Free World have avoided this issue.

The website conducted an independent analysis and also cites others who came to the same conclusions that they did: The birth certificate is a fake.

They even invite those interested to use the Foxit Reader version 4.3.1 software to examine the PDF file that the White House posted and they provide the information so that any person on the planet could examine for themselves the claims of those who have already looked into the matter. According to Jerome Corsi, “the Israel Science and Technology website examined the PDF file posted by the White House April 27, 2011, and found that the last digit of the birth certificate’s number, 61 10841, disappears under 800-percent magnification.”

“Many …examples can be discovered by examining magnified document with full page view of the document,” the website says. “In brief, this simple analysis using just a viewing software reveals that the PDF document has been altered by a graphics software.”

The problem is not that there is no evidence that the document is a fake. The problem is that elected representatives on both sides of the aisle don’t care whether America has a sleeper in the White House or not. The question we should ask ourselves is “Why don’t they care?”



  • Rod

    The answer as to why members of the US House of Representatives dont care is that 1) the Dems dont care and neither do most liberals I have spoken to since they love Obama and think he is this nations great savior therefore Rule of Law means little to them and 2) the Reps dont have the gonads to fight this battle as they are concerned that they cannot prove it without a doubt and will lose power as a result. Like him or hate him we MUST stay true to our Constitutioin and our nations Rule of Law!!

  • CamoCoyote

    Maybe now this issue will be forced front and center….I’m looking forward to the explanation.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      For an explanation and complete expose and debunking of this lie promulgated by the right wing and hate filled fanatics, go to:
      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

    • The__Bobster

      Quit the spamming. The Snopes explanation is a joke.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      That’s it. Reject anything that substantially disproves your biased and right winged opinions. You’re a joke.

    • onerightstand

      Oh, now, we’re “hate-filled.” So, critiquing somebody or something is “hate-filled?” When does the “racist” word get thrown out there? When a black criticizes a white person, is that also racist? As when, your “object d’ awe” maligns most tea partiers? Of course, have you looked up the history of the tea party or do you even know what those “hate-filled” Bostonians did and why?

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      The Bostonians had a legitimate grievance, the Tea Party doesn’t (we are in the middle, tax wise, for industrial nations and our current tax rates have not been lower since the 50′s). And, critiquing somebody isn’t hate filled but if you bother to read what your compatriots are writing here, you’ll see why I use that adjective.

    • Retired_MSgt_Marana_Az

      You appear to have a problem, repeating yourself, over and over. Kind of like the definition of insanity.

      What you liberal, anti-capitalistic, anti free market, socialist/fascist/communist retards can’t stand is that we are going to the polls on the 6th of November and will push those levers that will FLUSH your evil idol, Comrade NObama, and his corrupt fellow-traveler minions, down the drain.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1240190038 Curt Nicola

      Ms B. sincerly stop the foolishness. Asking folks to believe a truely ‘left’ leaning site, would be like the ‘right’ endorsing Micheal Savage as YOUR minister !

    • SEBtopdog

      I don’t think we’ll get an explanation………..

    • SEBtopdog

      I don’t think we’ll get an explanation………..

  • Blessings

    They don’t care because the Republicans are scared to fight. I’m sick of the BS we put up with. Time to not care what the news channels say, the Dems think, fight back. The Republicans are going to lose this election because they don’t fight fire with fire. God wants the Republicans to fight for him, for us. His birth certificate is most likley fake. His past is fake. WHY NOT FIGHT FOR US!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1240190038 Curt Nicola

      Very well put ! If the Repubs lose…they (like the TRUE Dems of yesteryear) are GONE…OVER ! Time for a NEW party…the one taht got things started in turning around ! The TEA Party !

  • Beatrix17

    I thought the whole point of PDF is that you can’t alter it. You stated why the scientists think it’s a fake, but why do you think so? I think Romney will win, but I’m curious.

    • The__Bobster

      How do you think PDF files are created? They use layering. You can still examine each layer.

    • Beatrix17

      How did I think PDF files are created? How did I think the earth was created? I could as easily answer one as the other.

    • Beatrix17

      Thank you Bobster for the explanation.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      because he was born in Topeka, KS

  • joe

    THEN KICK HIM THE HELL OUT!!!!!!!

    • SEBtopdog

      Yes, please …. Let’s do that.

  • 32eagle

    Collin Powell I am sure regrets endorsing obama because BORAX is an illegal alien and a traitor-never a military man-never a man with balls-instead some dimwit foreigner that likes to lecture-yet has no experience to back up his mouth-no credentials to back up his balls-no balls to back up his cowardice

    • Retired_MSgt_Marana_Az

      Well now, that made a lot of sense! I’m sure that you mean well and that you are anti-NObama.

      Don’t beat around the bush, just get to the polls in November and VOTE his pathetic, communist ass out of office.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      Born in Topeka Ks of natural born parents and his alleged dad murered in a vicious raial hate cirme boorught on by thiskind offrenzied gossip that had engulfed te HS and city

  • Eric Tarbox

    I want this fraudulent occupier, of the White House, to spend the maximum time in maximum security prison and pay full restitution for all funds spent on his behalf due to his signature.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Want all you want. Fact is he is a legal, democratically ELECTED President. I think you ought to consider the benefits of reality.

    • 57Chevy

      Sorry you idiot, He is NOT legal & his Phony Birth Certificate proves it, along with so many other things. You are too stupid & brainwashed to see the forest thru the trees! When you have to start wearing a burka, MAYBE then you will see the truth, BUT by then it will be WAAAAY toooooo Late!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      He was orn in Toepeka ks and was not told as of 1/71 after that?

    • 57Chevy

      He couldn’t pay back what he robbed from the American people if he lived til the year 2525!!!!!!!!!

  • Bill

    We have the media to thank for this Other than FOX of course

  • Marj0120

    The biggest question is what the frock can we do about it? You can email until you’re blue in the face and they simply ignore you.
    We need to vote out every single incumbent short of voting for a Dem.

    • SEBtopdog

      But unless we do something NOW about the fact that votes in 23 states are slated to be counted in Spain, we don’t have much chance to stop voter fraud!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      n Topeka ks and you may never prove he knewabout the fake one. vote for or aiasnt on job perormance

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      You do nothing about it because the ring wing fanatics are, again, lying to you as they do continuously with their propaganda machine. For proof of this lie, see:
      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

    • The__Bobster

      Quit the spamming. The Snopes explanation is a joke.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Factual proof that undermines the constant lying going on at “Freedom”post is not spam. The fact that you believe so merely clarifies your irrational biases.

    • steve

      This was brought up by the left not the right. Hillary supporter took it to court to try to get him off the ballot when he ran in 08 but that probably won’t matter

    • archie

      Kathleeeeeeeen, you really like to talk, huh? Address the issue that there was no ‘Kenya’ in 1961; yet the 1961 certificate states his father is from Kenya. Why don’t you take note that you are worshiping a false idol? Better yet, go see “2016″ and learn something. Try to put some factual data into your little head.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      If you bothered to use the search term “Kenya” in my Scopes referenced web article you would have seen that issue, also, fully addressed in the article, genius, and I quote:
      “Although Kenya did not achieve complete independence from the U.K. until 1963, it was known as the Kenya Colony from 1920 onwards and was typically referred to as Kenya long before 1963. A search of news reports from 1961 (the year of Obama’s birth) turns up hundreds and hundreds of news articles [referenced in a link by the way] referencing that entity simply as “Kenya”.
      Now, as for your paternalistic demeanor, shove it. I can say that because you shoot first without really educating yourself. That’s referred to as stupidity.
      As for “2016″, go see “War of the Worlds” for something similar.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      Movie does not say Norn in Topeka ks and alleged dad victim of a racila ghate cirme due to his realtionship with oter. ge the real recrds.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      Jutice for three dead of a racil hate cirme caused by eaxacty the kind of gosisp frenzy goingon now. Pres Obama bornin Topeka Ks. listen to the eye witneese such as me

  • gerf

    On top of that he goes around making fun of it ( birthers ) for example

    • SEBtopdog

      Classic behavior right out of Saul Alinsky’s playbook: Ridicule the opposition and try to make them appear ridiculous.

    • Futuro

      Well, you guys don’t have to make it so easy….

    • squeak

      What else are they going to say…they have nothing to brag about, so they play the blame game , race card , lie until they think it will stick, spin, etc… these lies are what they are good at !

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      He and any knowledgeable person who doesn’t uncritically accept the lying hateful right winged crap. To prove this “Freedom”post propaganda is a lie, go to:
      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

    • The__Bobster

      Quit the spamming. The Snopes explanation is a joke.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Quit your deceptions. Your depiction of the accurate and fact based Snopes explanation is an example of irrational delusion brought on by reflexive denial of any reality that doesn’t conform to your biased hate.

    • highfive

      well then, that makes two of us, ytiour distorted view about your ‘messiah’, notice, he does not deserve the capital ‘M’ and my unbiased view of a well researched background into ‘O’, which left me with nothing, because he hadn’t achieved a damned thing before he b ecame President. and I am outta here, getting sick to my stomach,

    • WIZ

      snopes isn’t always right

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      OK, where are they wrong? And, where were they wrong regarding Obama’s birth certificate, or did you write that much like a child would react when frustrated by a truth that doesn’t fit neatly into your world vision?

    • Old Observer

      Lying,hateful crap???? That’s whats been coming out of the left for ages. Even God nailed it—Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of a wise man is inclined to the right, but that of a fool, to the left”. Perhaps that’s why the DNC was trying to eliminate any mention of God——-

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      With “logic” like yours it’s no wonder you can’t think. I see you really don’t know the origin of the political terms “left” and “right” Hint: it wasn’t due to anything found in the Bible, believe it or not.

    • Old Observer

      And you weren’t smart enough to take it as it was presented,–” tongue in cheek—” I came across that passage in a Bible study during the last campaign and got a chuckle out of it–but then, most of you folks say God is dead—–of course, at that time I was simply listening to both candidates equally—but definitely not impressed with Obama.
      Every one of these basically conservative sites has a few like you—beating the Obama drums like a petulant child who has been told he can’t have a lollipop but keeps on asking! Maybe when you’ve lived a few more years and seen how the real world works–I would bet you are under 35—-if we have a country left by then, that is……

    • squeak

      You are like a broken record…can’t you take a hint, we are not interested in your Snopes…your rating should tell you something !

    • highfive

      uncritically?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      B=verufeus he was never tld he was born in Tooeka, KS

  • A Reader

    “Recently, they have produced a report that is both scientific and technological in regards Barack Obama’s birth certificate that has been uploaded to WhiteHouse.gov.”

    You may want to update this to read the following:
    “Recently, they have produced a report that is both scientific and technological with regards to Barack Obama’s birth certificate that has been uploaded to WhiteHouse.gov.”
    Great article! Thank you.

  • Mike

    There is a gap between discovering that a number disappears under 800x magnification and claiming that the document has been altered. Many components of a digital image will seem to disappear under enough magnification due do image compression in the PDF.

  • larry

    The republicans have made a deal with the democrats. They will run sombody like Romeny that can be elected so Obama will win and the next time the democrates wil run somebody that cannot be elected so the repulcians can win.

    • SEBtopdog

      Huh?

    • squeak

      She does not make sense , does she, way out left field !

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      I suggest using your imagination for harmless story telling to children, as opposed to wild absurdities regarding present and future political realities.

    • lilolady

      It would seem that the RNC has a death wish.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      The seem to as their “programs” are quite deadly, for them and for our country, as had been shown previously.

  • cherjo

    Why aren’t we calling them & demanding they care? Bombard them with phone calls; this is ridiculous.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Because, unlike yourself, critical people know the truth, that the birth certificate is NOT a forgery. For proof, attacking each lying point of this right winged propaganda, go to:
      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

    • onerightstand

      Did you know that the hospital listed on the long form birth cert. did not exist then? Or, that the race listed was not in use at the time of your “object d’ awe” was born? You might want to go look up the word “truth.” (And, snopes ain’t it!)

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Oh, I see you didn’t bother reading my web reference to Snopes where that issue was clearly dealt with, and I quote:
      “The former Kapi’olani Maternity Home became the Kap’iolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital (where Obama was born) in 1931, and it retained that appellation until 1971, when its name was shortened to Kap’olani Hospital. The Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital (where Obama was NOT born) wa a separate entity which merged with the Kapi’olani Hospital in 1978 to become the Kap’iolani Medical Center for Women and Children.”
      Scopes provides further proof for the above, IF YOU’LL BOTHER TO READ THE ARTICLE before you shoot your ideas off in this worthless blog.

    • gray_man

      snopes must be true, wikipedia said so.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      He was born in Topeka Ks

    • highfive

      what, snopes again! oh come on, this is getting old, so old, no, it is funnyj. Kathleen you are a riot, a blind sheep, but a riot. you are like a bulldog, once a bulldog sinks his teeth into something , he will not let go, regardless if it will hurt him or not. wow, you are brain washed! oh wow!

  • CoffeeNerves

    This just ONE of the many reasons we are going to drop-kick Comrade Obama’s Butt all the way back to Chicago! He is a Pathological Liar and a corrupt, divisive, partisan HACK who is not competent enough to run a LemonAde Stand! Our Economy is tanking because of his stupid liberal policies and regulations on our Small Business owners. He has to GO and the sooner the better.
    One and DONE and good riddance!
    Romney/Ryan: Real Leadership, at last, effective January 20, 2013!

    • pilot

      Can you imagine that?? An unemployed – non practicing lawyer/educator, – among a whole bunch of Union controlled teachers on strike!.. He should be able to make “tons of money” lecturing on law in Chicago!

  • http://www.facebook.com/kevin.kriske Kevin Kriske

    I pray for our recovery after this fraud and his comrades are out of our Whitehouse.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IXSPY5A7HKC44DG75A2PK3RV2Q GaryR

    That our elected government leaders have shown NO interest in taking action on this FRAUD, while they DO pursue the kind of light bulbs we can have, the toilets we use, and kids’ lemonade stands tells me that our government is either COMPLETELY INCOMPETENT, OR they are CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT. In either case, they can no longer be allowed to remain in control of our government. We need a 100% complete sweep of government. Well, maybe 95%; we need to keep the Allen Wests and a few like him. But, beyond that, we need to sweep out ALL incumbents! They are corrupt and no longer represent our best interests!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anita-Eitmann/100000450497995 Anita Eitmann

      And you know another problem they have. They have so much on each other even if they wanted to do the right thing they can’t. If just one spills the beans this criminal organization will crumble like a deck of cards. Talk about putting people back to work. Building new jails to hold of them and their associates will probably cut the unemployment rate by at least 3%.

    • lilolady

      Praise God, Anita! You do get it! Yours is the most important comment of the day!!

      Praise God, Anita! Yours is the most important comment of the day! Thank you! None were willing to pledge their Lives, their Fortunes or their Sacred Honor, to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, both Foreign and Domestic.

    • squeak

      They are like dominoes, they will all fall in a row… soooo ,what are we waiting for ? Let them all fall …good riddance ! It will be a clean sweep… put people in office that love this Country , Constitution, Freedom & will protect the American people !

    • Old Observer

      You got it! Back in the 70′s when I got my divorce in NY state, you had to go thru a remediation hearing to make sure it was necessary, that the marriage could not be saved. The woman in charge was a govt rep–maybe just state level? and she told us then that no politician could stay honest beyond 1 term because they would owe so many “favors” to the others.

    • lilolady

      Anita, your comment explains all we need to know, and answers all the questions that have gone unanswered, leaving us all so puzzled by their cowardice. Thank you.

    • highfive

      Anita, you hit the nail on the head. Thank you!

    • For my children

      Want real change? CONGRESSIONAL REFORM ACT 2012

      1. Term Limits: 12 years maximum total of accumulated service in both
      Congress & the Senate. Congress & the Senate are meant to be
      Public Service jobs, not a political career.

      Terms limits are needed to help politicians do the following:
      Break ties to special interests, lobbyists.
      Destroy seniority/enhance meritocracy.
      Improve timeliness of Congres
      s’s thinking.
      Eliminate power of ‘old bulls’ caucus.
      Introduce fresh thinking, new ideas.
      Improve tendency to vote on principle.
      Provide inescapable, bracing reminders of what life in the real world is like.
      Reduce power of staff, bureaucracy.
      Increase competition among candidates.
      Reform campaign finance.
      Improve the quality of legislation.
      Minimize Members’ incentives for reelection-related “pork-barrel” legislation.

      2. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman/woman collects a salary while
      in office and receives no pay when they’re out of office.

      3.
      Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.
      All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social
      Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social
      Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It
      may not be used for any other purpose.

      4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

      5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

      6. Congress will have an incentive plan. Their pay will decrease based on poor performance.

      a. As the following goes up their pay goes down:
      Budget deficit and national debt, beyond modest increase of CPI, Unemployment.

      b. As the following goes down their pay also goes down with it:
      Value of the Dollar, GDP

      7. Congress will calculate GDP without the sum of government
      expenditures on final goods and services. It includes salaries of public
      servants, purchase of weapons for the military, and any investment
      expenditure by government.

      8. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

      9. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

      10. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void.
      The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen/women.

      11. All Congressmen/women must uphold, protect, and enforce the
      Constitution of the United States as it was written by our founding
      fathers. They will take the following Oath:

      “I, [name] do
      solemnly swear or affirm an oath of office to support and defend the
      Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and
      domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I
      take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose
      of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of
      the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God”

      The
      26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year olds) took only 3
      months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded
      it. That was in 1971… before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc. Of the
      27 amendments to the Constitution, seven took 1 year or less to become
      the law of the land… all because of public pressure. Forward this post
      to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of
      those to do likewise. In three days, most people in The United States
      of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be
      passed around.

      http://www.petition2congress.com

    • drdgonflyr

      I like that..

    • http://www.facebook.com/marvin.schulgen Marvin Schulgen

      for my children – you need a couple of tweaks to your Congressional Reform Act. (1) – 12 years is too long! 8 is more than enough – in fact, Obama himself stated that if he couldn’t do the job in four years he should be a one-term Preseident. (2), (3) & (4) – You probably intended, but neglected to state, that they should also retire on Medicare – No lifetime Congressional Medical plan. Their retirement from Congress should be no different than our retirement from the real world of business. NO entitlements! As for (5) & (6) – there should be no concern for the size of their COLAs, since they should all be VOLUNTEERING their services without pay, for the good of the country! There should be absolutely no financial incentives for them to get elected. And that’s also a good argument for them to hold only one term of office (six years?), so that they don’t have to spend any of that time campaigning for reelection. Except for those adjustments, I’m all for the reform!

    • James

      @ Marvin Schulgen And exactly who the heck do you think woud run? No pay, so they have to be independantly wealthy, and since your talking one term or two at the most, how are they going to do anything other than exactly what the bureaucrats tell them to do? It takes awhile to “get the hang” of a new job and true mastery of anything takes one heck of alot longer.

    • David S. McQueen

      Term limits get rid of the good guys, too. Is that what you want?

    • gray_man

      they are not the only ones who can do the job. there are tens of thousands who could do the job. the things that needs to happen are term limits, bind them to the same laws and privileges as everyone else, and limit their income to the meen average of the country. then you will find out who is there for the right reason.

    • David S. McQueen

      But when you “find out who is there for the right reason”, you still want to get rid of them. The system currently does get rid of the bad apples (not all, but most). Face it, there is a large number of “Americans” who want a Marxist government in the USA and want all wealth confiscated and redistributed. Of course, even if that happened, the wealth wouldn’t go to the useful idiots who installed a Marxist regime, it would stay with the ruling elites like Obama, Pelosi and Reed.

    • gray_man

      unfortunately, history shows that even the one there for the right reason eventually get corrupted. term limits have to be there for that. The very argument you say “The system currently does get rid of the bad apples (not all, but most).” I don’t believe is true. Ted Kennedy was there for how long? How many scumbags have stayed in office for decades? This proves we need term limits. There will always be good men to take their place, just like there will always be bad men trying to get into power also. Term limits gets rid of the ones wearing the mask of a good man hiding the heart of an evil one. ” Face it, there is a large number of “Americans” who want a Marxist government in the USA and want all wealth confiscated and redistributed.” True. Term limits takes some of the worry of constant vigilance out of the stack of a million things for patriots to do, to focus on the commie scum.

    • mallen11

      For my Children, you have great ideas but do you think Congress will do what you suggest especially since most of them are there for the money and power. They are not there for our country or things would have changed against -0 two years ago.

    • James

      Couple of issues with this, besides getting Congress to adopt any of these measures.
      Term limits give more power to unelected bureaucrats, not less. Most of the real work of the Government is not done by Congress or the President it is done by the people who work in the various staff positions.
      The President my appoint a new Secretary of State, but the people in that Department don’t all lose their jobs every 4 years, and these are the people who create the reports the Secretary and President base their decisions on.
      The same is true in Congress. They may have some staff that comes with them but they all depend on the people who are their year in and year out.
      No benefits = no incentive. Running for any position is a huge gamble. You give up your job, your income, and commit yourself to running a campaign you may or may not win. Then you get to make less money, have fewer benefits, and less job security than when you worked in the private sector? That makes no sense at all to anyone that belives in Capitalism.
      If there is a downward performance paycut then an upward performance payraise. Do you want a job with only negative possibilities?
      Term limits would not remove special interest group pressure or cronyism, it would make it worse. “Hey vote the way we want and you’ll get a job with us when you get out” is even more powerful an inducement when you can only serve 12 years (that is only 2 to 3 terms). Your still going to need a job, you don’t get a retirement check.
      So you need to cut 1. it won’t do what you want, and 10. (10. can’t stay since it’s illegal to make an expost facto law). Modify pay incentive to include actual incentives (increases for increases in GDP, International Relationships, etc. As appropriate to each position and Branch of Government.) Then add an enforcement clause (failure to comply with section 5 results in blah blah blah) and your good to go.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      They have taken action and they’ve proved his birth certificate is real. This “article” was meant for people like you who choose to uncritically believe anything that conforms to your preconceived and ignorant notions. As to this “article” here, read about its long ago debunking at:
      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

    • archie

      The certificate states Obama’s father is from Kenya. There was no ‘Kenya’ in 1961, fool!

    • pappadave

      Yes there was. It was called “The Republic of Kenya” then. What it DOES say is that his father’s “race” is “African.” “African” is NOT a “race.” Ernie Els of golfing fame is “African” (born in South Africa) and is as white as Hillary Clinton. In 1961, his father’s race would have been listed as “negro” if this was a real document.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      This, too, was FULLY addressed in the article at Snopes, and I quoted this subject here but you won’t read it, right? Of course not.

    • James

      @Kathleen…And the Foxit, Inkscape, Typographical analysis, etc. listed in the article is not addresed by Snopes in any way shape or form is it? Yes there are things that people have jumped on that “look like errors” but are not. Don’t let that junk (Kenya, African, hospital name variations etc) cloud the real problems with this document.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      t the wild goose chases. he was born in Topeka Ks my mother did not get in her chy and fly to kenya form Topeka. they almost didin;t make itto the hospital as her water borke in the bakc of the car. anyyone still own that chvy 1948 flettmmaster they sold as an antique mybe DNA still on the back seat.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Fool? I’ve addressed the Kenya issue here by quoting the Snopes article where is answers your ignorance fully. But you won’t read it, right? Of course not….

    • James

      @Kathleen…You still haven’t read the whole article or looked at the links have you? Snopes does not answer all the questions. It deals with Adobe only, not the digital manipulations shown by Foxit, Inkscape, and professional typographers.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      President Obama born in Top0eka ks and some of the nasty gosisp is what got a city into a gossip frenay that ended wit three dead including the alled father. His mother, an eye witness and authoities wantedto shut her up. My parents located, great uncle shehad never known as fred Phelps of westboro baptist where her mother eft her to go to school ahd made her leave and she had to get a job and did. and didn;t even get to start Topeka HS . All on my faebook. I am not endorsing anyone for president the turth willet us free and if three murders get solved so real closure happens then we can put the past behind us and some may still go to jail for this.

    • jdangiel

      That’s right up there with “The check is in the mail>” and “Bill Clinton will respect you in the morning.”

    • Big Dan

      The Birth Certificate has been proven as a fraud many times over. Once again SNOPES is a mom and pop left wing conspiracy. Get a grip, Get yourself informed and become intelligent. If you are not a liberal by the time you are 25 you have no heart, if you are not a conservative by the time you are 40, you have no brain.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Conservatives are ignorant Democrats…how’s that for another platitude? You haven’t addressed any facts, like most of your brethren here. Figures….

    • Big Dan

      Actually Kathleen, I served in the Navy under 3 different Presidents. The worst by far, I actually voted for and he was a democrat. The reason that Al Gore was trying so desperately to have all the military votes in Florida and elsewhere disavowed, was he knows that the military vote comes in at a rate of 2:1 for Republican, because we know who stands behind the US armed forces. Are you aware that your POTUS makes no attempt to to and see the wounded warriors, while “W” will make the visits in quiet. But you are probably a hater of the military as well, Those who put their own lives in harms way so you can spew your hatred.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      Yu need to go get the real one in Topeka ks. and all the toher volumes of recods and eye witneses. few of any news media is talking to eye witneesses. Why the cover up?three unsolved racil hate murders incuding one is the alleged dad This gossip frenzy ended with three dead inclduing the alleged dad, a nice kieid. nad its stillraging on Tie to prosecutesomeone and listen to the witnesses. All the authorities awanted to owasshu therup and she was in danger, too.

    • onerightstand

      What action was that exactly? I would say the “ignorant” is a person who takes the word of a random person at a computer over an academically qualified scientist! Perhaps, it is you who “doth protest too much” and needs to think critically about your object of awe and ask yourself how does someone manage to hide an entire post secondary education and why, how does someone who was totally unknown and had served less than one term in the House manage to get elected to President (and a house partial term which is actually mediocre)? And how does a person who continues to lie, aggrandize himself, and pit some groups of Americans against others actually manage to even stay in office and then throws a tantrum every time anyone has the audacity to ask a straightforward question? Have you ever looked up to see how much the “snopes” may have donated to his political campaigns?

      You are the one who needs to become a more “critical thinker,” but sadly, they don’t teach that anymore in the public schools of mediocrity!

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      You haven’t stated one fact that is relevant to this discussion, on his birth certificate. Instead, you bring up a world of issues (and in a very general vain) asking questions that are simply answered, and all having nothing to do with the subject at hand.
      Obama isn’t perfect and neither is democracy, but that’s a discussion for another day. So, do I take it that you have no facts to back up the birth certificate allegations here?

    • Old Observer

      Just more BS—if it was real, he would have brought it out when first asked. And his other records as well. The only reason these things have been sealed is because he has something to hide. Additionally he is in the process of destroying this country and if you are too blind to see that—–welcome to sharia law, sweetie–hope you like it—

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      You are guilty of circular reasoning, a proven illogical way of thinking. Of course your conclusions will be a matter of random truth, mixed with mostly inaccurate banalities.

    • Chuck Cronmiller

      Kathleen
      Still drinking the left wing Kool aid. Jim Jones is waiting for you in South America. Snopes is a left wing site. It protectsw Progressive/Socialist/Marxist/Communist party (re Democrats)

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Even if what you wrote was true, you haven’t addressed a single fact having to do with the lies promulgated here by “Freedom”post on this subject. I don’t expect you will either.

    • drdgonflyr

      You are just like most democrates, a blind follower, wanting Daddy to take care of you forever, from birth to the grave. Just remember, this Daddy won’t want you to live to 90 years, it would cost him too much. That’s why they have death doctors in Obamacare.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      You don’t know a thing about me (and less about “most democrates [sic]” and, as such, your allegations are dead wrong. But you don’t care about the truth, only what lies in your suspicious and ignorant mind.

    • http://www.facebook.com/marvin.schulgen Marvin Schulgen

      Kathleen – I highly recommend that you read “The Amateur”.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      Does it tell abot hisbirth in Topeka ks and the three dead of a racial hate cirme and hismother trying to get justice for the alleged father and no one wanted her to be around either. lisen to the eye witnesses and few of tem are. See my facebook satrting 7.26.12 nd in daily recaps since.

    • Dasarge

      God Almighty woman, will you please get over your love affair with Snopes! That liberal sycophant site has been discredited OVER & OVER again by professionals who use to swear by it’s authenticity. Your only research claim is “It’s on Snopes”, “The facts are on Snopes”, “You haven’t read the Snopes article”. I swear, you sound like a paid advertiser for Snopes as well as a whining liberal troll who refuses to see the ocean beyond the beach because Snopes says the ocean doesn’t exist anymore.

    • http://www.facebook.com/marvin.schulgen Marvin Schulgen

      Unfortunately, Kathleen, you seem to be the one who is accepting these ideas “uncritically”. Snopes and Factcheck are both very partial sources of information. Snopes is funded by Soros; FactCheck is an instrument of the Annenberg Foundation, which was Obama’s employer. Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his team of investigators did serious investigation into Obama’s background in an effort to debunk all of these “ignorant notions”, as you call them. Arpaio received the shock of his life when his investigation instead confirmed the stories and the fraud! You need to do a little more in depth research before you denigrate those who have raised honest questions about Obama’s past and his intentions.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Oh? Your facts don’t counter ANY of the facts presented ON THIS SUBJECT in Snopes. And who funds “Freedom”post. I don’t care; I deal with facts that are relevant here, unlike yourself.

    • James

      @facebook-1219777906:disqus you still need to read the whole article at http://www.science.co.il/Obama-Birth-Certificate.htm and the links at the bottom of the site. Snopes covered some misconceptions about names (country hospital etc) and layers in Adobe but did not address anything else on the Science site.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      He has ignored the ee witness of Pres obama born in Topeka Ks or hisoppeols are not shring it. If three murders get solc=ve, too so beit. see my facebook starting 7/26.12 and indaily recaps since.

    • highfive

      you are one of the blind sheep following the wolf in sheep clothing. I feel sorry for you, Kathleen, they have to say the certificate is real otherwise all their butts, every single one in Politics, would be hanging out to dry. There is so much corruption going on in high places, people have no idea. Lets face it, we elected as President without proof of his American born citizenship. He refused to supply it then and finaslly someone came up with a forgery and everyone in high places was told to say, it is real. Yet, the name of the hospital ‘
      O’ was supposed to be born in Hawaii, was changed later on, way after his birthdate, yet on his ‘authentic’ certificate they have the new name down. this is the first fraud.
      At the time he was born, the term Afro American was never used, yet they put for his Father ‘
      Afro American’, when at that time only the word ‘Negro’ or perhaps ‘Black’ was used. so this is the second fraud. I could go on and on, but it is too much to write, you don’t believe it anyway. Soi, hope there is someone to pick you up when the truth comes out one of this days and your ‘savior’ is a total fraud.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      You are blind and it’s obvious to me because all your issues were addressed by me, here, in a quote I took from the Snopes article, but you didn’t read it, obviously. They didn’t write “Afro-American” anywhere on the birth certificate but, rather, used the term “African” and I explained why, as did the Snopes article. Talk about “blind” sheep.

    • James

      @highfive your actually perpetuating some bad info. The hospital name, the race, etc were all in use at the time, although not the “Official” names. The document does, however show it was edited when you look at the Foxit, and Inkscape analysis, as well as the Typography. The document was doctored, although the reason isn’t immediately clear. Until you look at a different document. He was most likely born in Hawaii, since that’s whats listed on his Jakarta school records. Of course it also shows he was an Indonesian citizen, and they do not (and did not) allow dual citizenship, which means he had to have given up his US Citizenship to become an Indonesian Citizen. Same end result. He is not eligible to be the President, even if he was born in Hawaii. So why mess with the th certificate? Red herrining, probably. If everyone is chewing on this old bone no one notices the real problem.
      http://www.science.co.il/Obama-Birth-Certificate.htm

    • checkingthefacts

      Kathleen, have YOU been diligent abt. being open-minded as a journalist to look at both sides? Sometimes “where there is smoke there is fire!”

    • James

      @Kathleen Beacon….Again have you actually read the article and checked out the links at the bottom? I really don’t think you have based on your posts. You keep talking about facts but are ignoring the fact Snopes did not debunk this article, they were talking about earlier questions about the Adobe irregularities. The expert Snopes quoted is not a Forensic Document Analyst, he is a Certified Adobe Expert. HUGE DIFFERENCE! The Snopes article does not even come close to dealing with all the issues and irregularities of the documents.

    • Mike

      I would certainly agree that the whole congress, criminally negligent for their lack of action in this matter. I suspect the reason for no action from them is because they are so afraid of being called racist and causing race riots in the streets of the USA. I persononally don’t care if it does start race riots. I have a strong feeling that the blacks would riot if Obama were tried in court.

    • Timmy

      Remember, he’s just HALF-BLACK. Had a trashy white mama. Kick the bum out now.

    • mountaine

      100 % correct ! On both sides ! Listen to Miki Booth tell you who is in on this from the beginning !http://www.westernjournalism.com/karl-rove-defends-obamas-eligibility-to-be-president/

    • mountaine

      Our government is full of communist on both sides ! Just listen to Miki Booth tell all !

  • noelle2011

    NO SH$% OF COURSE ITS FAKE!
    EVERY THING ABOUT SOTERO IS FAKE AND HE IS VERY MUCH A FRAUD! SOTERO NEEDS TO BE DRAGGED FROM OUR WH NOW!

    • Linda

      He never should have been allowed in the White House or even allowed to run for the office in the first place. Get him out “yesterday!!!!!”

    • 57Chevy

      Han* the M***** F*****. Not only a fraud, but a lyin’, cheatin’ Communist who we all know despises EVERYTHING about our country. We Desperately NEED a Real American in the WH!!!!!!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      Get his real birth records out of Topeka, KS and confront him. truth cn set everyone free on this!

    • lilolady

      There is action in several States to refuse his name on the ballot, until he can pass the test for a drivers license, or entry into kindergarten.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      You;ve got to get the real records out of Topeka ks to rebut htis!

    • lilolady

      Are you telling me that this is not true, but a rumor? What kind of records are you speaking of? Got a site or E address? All States?
      Just one ? Please elucidate. Thanks.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      He should have beentld the turth of his birth in Topeka KS and knw his real family and who his alleged dad was. murdered in a horrific racila hae coirme with three dead and never any real investigaiton.

    • Big Dan

      You are close, I was misspelling the fools name also until I finally paid attention. Barry Soetoro is in the back pocket of Soros, Ayers, et al:

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      he may not know as i was stopped form mentioneing his birth to him in 1.71 in Topeka ks. get the real records oot of Topeka, KS

  • http://www.facebook.com/ERIC.ATO1 Eric Dohse

    EXACTLY. WHY DON’T THEY CARE???? EVERYONE KNOWS obama is a FRAUD… yet none will do anything…

    • CoffeeNerves

      Liberal Media! Real Journalism is DEAD. Thank God for the Internet!

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Oh? Apparently you haven’t used the Internet well enough to thank it for anything since you believe this hogwash, without checking the sources of true information, information that previously debunked and exposed the lies here, found at:
      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

    • http://twitter.com/chaotixjoe NamelessN00b

      Snopes is funded by our current regime. It’s the same site that said that the Small Arms Treaty was in no way going to affect our gun rights.

    • Big Dan

      AMEN NamelessN00b Those who put stock in Snopes are the same who pur all their stocks in Emron, Unions

    • Steve

      what is sad is that even if it is proved the liberals will argue he was elected it wouldn’t matter to them. They would say it is a right wing attack and yet it was first brought up by a Hillary supporter.

    • Old Observer

      I don’t trust snopes, either—

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Well, then, trust the facts at Snopes and deal with them like a critical, smart thinker would, instead of going by your biases feelings as a way to interpret reality.

    • bigguyincolorado

      Snopes is owned by Soros

    • afanaglenn

      Now I know everything on Snopes is real and truthfull if it is run and operated by Soros… NOT

    • 09dogg38

      It would appear old observer is an old democrat. This guy in the white house,gives fraud a whole new meaning.The old one has eyes,but will not see……

    • Old Observer

      LOL–Old Observer is an independent and has been for years. I certainly hope i did not give the impression I was in favor of the fraud in the WH. if you have read my posts on other sites you would know that. Obama is the worst thing that has ever happened to our country!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TDSLCPZIADLPWE4SFOZNRWV3OE Mike Tanco

      That is true and what’s alarming is members of Congress won’t do anything about this “FRAUD”. How can they sell the United States out to a Muslim “FRAUD”? Mike Tanco

    • hiway280z

      bought off, threatened them and their families, or part of the plan and there are many of those there.

    • nancy miller

      Just look at the turn a round that Clinton did. He sure sang a different tune before Barry was elected than he does now. The fraud hasn’t changed, why has Bill??

    • Sutekh

      Yeah, Bill was the original “birther.” After Chelsea was threatened, he changed his tune about that. Obama can pick up the phone and cancel Bill’s Secret Service Detail, or simply offer them free chippies to off him themselves.

    • Chuck

      Because he is just as big a fraud as Obumble.

    • hiway280z

      The clintons are manuvering for her to run in 2016 for President again. Slick willie is a phony and if you listen he threw in his talk how well he did when pres and glorified hillarly. LOL It is sad what our government has become and how most use it to become rich. They do things that if we did we would be jailed. The only good thing obama has done is wake people up to pay attentionto what is going on and how government works. Many will bemore careful about who they vote for. The damage a president can do to this country is so great, they can take the country down.

    • Richard Wm. Faith

      Bill is a fraud too. He also knows very well how to speak two sentences at the same time out the opposite ends of his mouth, and they contradict each other. Double think becomes double talk in realk time.

    • retiredsgmusarmy

      MONEY talks and Bullshitza walks and Slick Willey is Richer today than he was before the DNC.

    • Pete

      It can’t be “bought off.” The money trail could not be hidden, AND to be the one who actually proved Buma is a fraud would make them far more money than Buma and his friends would ever pay. No, it’s threats and coercion. That’s the way the mob always operates. Buma knows all about people going for a swim in the Chicago River wearing concrete boots. Why do you think “Dead Fish” was chosen to be his Chief of Staff?

    • hiway280z

      I think we agree pretty much. Some were bought off to pass obama care. The states they represented got plenty of money. More often I would say threats. They can buy them off many ways.

    • CORNELIUS

      TRY “ZIONIST LAPDOG” AND LEAVE THE LIE OF ‘MUSLIM’ BEHIND. HOW MANY MUSLIMS ARE CREATED, BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY ZIONIST VERMIN??? THINK ABOUT IT.

    • Pete

      I guess their are still a few Nazi war criminals, or their offspring, still alive.

    • Sutekh

      Loved you in “Planet of the Apes” with Charleton Heston. Is this part of the remake?

    • Retired_MSgt_Marana_Az

      Not “offspring” Pete, more like spawn.

      Wonder if Corny is a Christian?

    • Sutekh

      I had no idea that to become a Muslim, one had to first be circumcised by a Jew. Adds a whole knew dimension to the Muslim practice of “biting the hand….”

    • ed in Alabama

      I don’t think I want to know WHO you are, but WHAT you are. You know about enough to tap a key board, but little else. I take it you had a bad experience with a circumcision…….what happened….your boy friend bit it too close? You are either the King of Jew Haters……or a Domestic Terrorist! This isn’t about you, or about Jews. It is about the how this Country has been ram rodded with hatred spewed by the most evil person to ever hold political office. He has worked very hard to turn each one of us against another…..break the backbone and will of a people and break the Country. And you….you are caught up in the plan….Jerk!

    • Pete

      If the majority of Senators and Representatives were themselves vetted properly, which would surely be done if they chose to vet Buma, it would be a bloodbath. While they may have valid birth certificates and open school records, their are most certainly some things tthey keep hidden which would, if made public, get them booted out and charged with various crimes. Buma and his Chicago-style Gestapo & KGB know everything about coercion and blackmail, ans they have tons of experience. If they speak out, they better have a record cleaner than Billy Graham’s.

    • Sutekh

      True. The number of unconstitutional appointments made by presidents over the last 50 years is astounding. Hillary is not eligible to serve in Obama’s cabinet because she was in the Senate when her present salary was voted on.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OC6SKJLQDZEY674X7VRYBWH6AI Tom

      @ bigguyincolorado : Soros also owns the company in SPAIN that will count many of the 2012 VOTES ! Congress MUST get off of their collective butts !

    • Shermer

      The states count their own votes, not a company in Spain.

    • Old fart thats seen alot

      Kathleen, Snopes uses news papers to back up their answers. It’s nothing more than a in house check on themselves. I don’t know weather it’s been forged or not but snopes is a fraud. Why is Hawaii refusing a court order to produce the certificate? Why won’t Obama give proof of citizenship to states to be on the ballot this time? I don’t much give a dam because we’re going to get him out this time anyway and that’s what matters most. $400 Billion a year shortfall and that includes the wars, when he took over to over a Trillion a year since then., that’s what matters.

    • geeezzzz

      Most of the money is probably in Obamas overseas bank accounts somewhere. He is not one to be trusted. Americans will be voting with their eyes closed if he wins seems they just dont want to know the truth!

    • Pete

      Yesterday, a friend of mine made an interesting statement, “There are no newspapers, they are all just propaganda sheets.” He does have a very good point.
      No honest or ethical person will refuse to provide accurte, verifiable proof of birth, education, experience, qualifications, or a myriad of other things, when applying for even a middle-management position. Anyone who does will be rejected immediately and not considered for the position.
      The ONLY reason to hide these basic details is to prevent being proven a liar and a fraud. Why, you can’t even get a job through a temp agancy without this basic info!

    • Albert

      Anyone who does not read the newspaper is uninformed, anyone who does read the newspaper is misinformed…Mark Twain

    • Sutekh

      The Hawaii state government is controlled by Democrats. What else do you need to know?

    • Phillip_in_TX

      It’s time to “Eject the Reject!”

    • matism

      You’ll have to kill the pigs first, for THEY are his enablers.

    • Edd

      And why won’t OB release his college records? Maybe some very strange friends during those yhears? As to the birth certificate, about a year ago it was reported & shown in the Daily News with OB laughing & saying Here it is’ or words to that effect. However the copy in the Daily News was a green ,nd these are the copies I used to pick up when I worked….they are certified copies, not a birth certificate or copies of a birth certificate. Whoever was at the desk would make up the certified copy from the original and put a seal on it to show that it was legit. . And that green thing in the Daily news was it was typed up…..I’ve never seen a birth certificate that was typed up…is there a typewriter next to the bed? I didn’t think so! Plus, it said in the article that the certificate had to be taken back to Hawaii to be certified…..this would never had happened, since it had to be certified as certtified when it was picked up. The bureau of records would never let a it out the door otherwise. In addition to Jerome Corsi Es, the Sheriff of Az, Joe Arpaio is doing the same, has proof he’s s waiting for the supreme court to erxamine. Butr the reason why Dems continue to vote for him is because they vote ‘party’…..they don’t care if Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck or a yellow dog is on it…which gives them no motivation or incentive whatsoever to examine the candidate….so their brain, like an arm in a sling for many years, looses it’s ability to think, and they are at complete peace, regardles of who is on the ticket…as long as he/she is a Dem! And they sleep well at night. Unfortunately,the rest of us don’t!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V5CG5GXW7DWXZY5FZHNHSNCW5Q Joe L

      Like you do,huh…..you checked all the facts……smart thinker that you are…..idiots like you caused this mess we are in.You believe anything.

    • Pete

      Kathleen, can you at least make a tiny effort to check the facts before you make a personal attack for the purpose of diverting any investigation of reality? Try it. Just once. You might learn and grow from it.

    • Old Observer

      Biases and feelings??!!!! Got news for you–I base my opinions on observation–not what is said, but what I see done or not done. And I don’t like what I’ve seen the past 3 years. Maybe when you’ve been around as long as I have, you will learn how to do that instead of swallowing all the crap served up to you by the obama crowd! AND Snopes has been known to be wrong on occasion.

    • Sutekh

      Talk about “biases and feelings” from a supporter of “Vote-For-Me-I’m-Black” Obama? Puh-leeze.

    • AlarmBelle

      Your ‘reality’ is laughable. Progressives are laughable. Americans are far more intelligent than communists. That is why WE are successful and they are never successful. No such thing as a successful communist nation.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OC6SKJLQDZEY674X7VRYBWH6AI Tom

      @ Kathleen Beacon: Name one successful city OR state that has been run by Democrats ! Take California, please ! How about Detroit ?

    • siquijorisland

      what are the references given that convenience you that know one here knows what they are talking about.
      Or are you just spreading your form of propaganda as facts with not reference.

    • Pete

      Kathleen, how about, “What are the references which convince you that no one. . . .”? Now I understand why you always resort to personal slurs rather than discussing the real issues.

    • siquijorisland

      Yes real issues have references to information providers.
      Where also is the person attack.
      Restate the question what are the references?
      this is how we determine sources of information.

    • pftspd@gmail.com

      Beacon.. you are disgusiting and a product of the flush sounds heard in the chicago rest rooms where obama and his fudgepacker friends gatered for ‘recreation’. I bet you like this done to you.

    • http://www.facebook.com/steve.s.johnson.9 Steve S Johnson

      I love it when a person blatantly states that if anyone puts forth something that threatens to shatter the enshrined crystal graven image of their idol, then that person just needs to go find a quiet corner and practice thinking until they can rise to an understanding that the idol is enlightened and correct no matter what the evidence says.

    • 09dogg38

      Snopes? NOPE !

    • wolly dog

      if it’s conected to the democrats and obamanation you can best be believing it’s a lie and it didn’t happen the way they put a spin on everythings to conform to their TRUTH snopes is run by the demoncrats just not directly so their’s denial plausibiolity

    • Show Me

      Me either. I’d like to have some other links to check stuff. Snopes is just too onesided!
      As for the birth certificate. I grew up in the 60′s and 70′s and I don’t remember blacks being referred to as “blacks” or African Americans, (which is a whole ‘nother kettle of fish) till the late late 60′s early 70′s. Untill then as far as I can remember they were referred to as Negro’s and in some places colored hung on for a long time.That is what bothers me about this “genuine birth certificate”.

    • Phillip_in_TX

      It “genuine” all right. It’s a “GENUINE FORGERY!”

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Deal with the facts presented in the article at Snopes, not the BS you enjoy throwing whenever something doesn’t fit your preconceived notions of reality.

    • Citizen60

      The point is there are no absolute facts at Snoops as its a leftist propaganda site.

    • siquijorisland

      why is you can not find a different way to verify, like some thing real and true like the state of Hawaii opening their records.
      When the truth stares you in the face it is time to do so much more that ignore the truth. To do this makes you a zombie.

    • Citizen60

      You think wrongly, he is our employee, he should prove who he is…we should not have to hire a detective to find out..taking the fool at his word makes you a zombie, believing a false document makes you a zombie, voting for a communist makes you an idiot.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000303879569 Nanette Gray

      Well let us look at the FACTS..I have looked both at snopes and factcheck…right! Truth, snopes does not report the facts at all…only what the left allows them to report! True facts come out latter, much latter and then what..it is not available on snopes! It appesrs as if the question was never asked and answered by them…such as nothing found!

    • gray_man

      snopes stopped being a source of facts long ago.

    • CORNELIUS

      YEAH, THE DAY IT WAS POSTED TO THE INTERNET!

    • pftspd@gmail.com

      Kathleen.. why don’t you put your name on the ballot for the American Communist Party?

    • Hidlins

      Kathleen Beacon-why don’t you go comment somewhere where people are interested in what you have to say. Your remarks are not needed here.

    • 09dogg38

      Spoken like a democrat calling the kettle black.Come back when you can make sense.

    • Don

      Kathleen Bacon: For someone who HATES this site so much, you sure are spending a lot of your time and effort posting on it. Obama is not only a Kenyon by birth, he is also a homosexual!!!

    • Guest

      @Don – Kathleen, siquijorisland and other supporters in here of the regime are fake persona’s. Don’t reply. That is why “she” is in here. It is software, a computer you are arguing with. Called PMS – persona management software. Just know one thing: Anything & everything surrounded by a communist agenda to promote it, is FAKE. Keep your focus on what is real and actual. EVERY election since 2010 has turned RIGHT. Why does anyone think it will be different in November? NOTHING has gotten better, only worse. LOL!!!! They are toying with your fears. Fear NOT. Relax and worry not. Obama is burnt toast and has such a lack of support for his lack of leadership there is no way in hell he can win in Nov. The PMS is riddled throughout our conservative news sites. It makes one person look like ten. Has profiles and pictures of people but are phoney fraudulent postings. Hasn’t anyone ever seen the pictures and news reports that come out of communist Russia or China? All are obviously photoshopped, chopped, and blatant lies. ( remind of you anything we have been presented with???? ……uhhhh, the BC????….. hello ) Keep your faith in GOD. Pray, and then pray some more. Divine intervention will destroy the commies once and for all. WE must believe that and it will save the country. GOD is the truth, freedom, love, and positive energy of the universe. Easily tapped in to if you believe! DO IT. The very fact that we saw with our own eyes at the DNC convention that they needed to ‘vote’ on whether or not to keep the “word” God in their theme is proof of communism. It is communism that does NOT believe in GOD because communism knows that GOD is the ONLY power that can destroy it. PROVEN in many instances, i.e. Portugal 1917 – The Miracle of the Sun. Meet the Witnesses. It is a book, short read and full of history and facts and hope. Try to read it.

    • James

      @Kathleen I did deal with the facts. Fact one the Snopes expert is an expert on Adobe, not a Forensic Documents expert. There is nothing “Wrong” with Snopes per se, most of their stuff is factual.
      Ask yourself this though. Why are they using a source who is a certified expert on Adobe, instead of someone who is certified in finding forged documents? There are numerous issues the Snopes article simply did not address. Did you look at all the information and links at http://www.science.co.il/Obama-Birth-Certificate.htm ?
      The Adobe expert said identical letters and boxes are understandable since its an image and the computer would see it as “element x is the same as element b”, yet there are numerous typed letters that are in differnt fonts. Not miss-struck letters, actual seperate fonts. Simply not possible with one typewriter. The Adobe expert argued that identical to the pixel is understandable since the computer seeing it all as graphics. If it were OCR’d a letter could “look” like its in a differnt font to the computer but the Adobe expert insisted it has not been OCR’d, if he were a typography expert it would have stuck out as a huge problem to have differnt fonts in the same typed document.
      All of which is probably moot. I think the birthcertificate was altered as a deliberate attempt to divert attention.
      In my mind here are the real questions.
      Why did Congress inquire into John Mcain’s citizenship status when he was born on a Military base, yet every member of Congress (should) know US Military Bases, Embassies, Consulates, etc are all concidered part of the US?
      Why didn’t Congress inquire into Barak H Obamas (Barry Soetoros) citizenship when it was general knowledge he lived and went to school in Indonesia as a Citizen of Indonesia when everyone in Congress (should) know Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship? In other words, his US Citizenship would have had to be renounced in order to become a Indonesian Citizen.
      Why has Barak H Obama spent over a million dollars to have his school records sealed? What would be the point unless he applied as a foriegn national, or recieve a scholarship due to being a foriegn national, or is miss-stating his credentials? If he is a US Citizen and gained entrance by fraud or received money due to a false claim it could be a felony, which would make him ineligible to be President. If it wasn’t fraud and he applied as a foriegn national then it is proof he either was not born in Hawaii (unlikely) or at some point renounced his Citizenship (much more likey), again making him inelligible. (His school enrollment in Jakarta shows he was an Indonesian Citizen who was born in Hawaii.)
      The most important question is why, when it is a Constitutional requirement for someone to be a Natural Born Citizen, is there no law requiring a Presidential Candidate to submit his proof of eligibility and why is there no legal process to go through to challenge eligibility? Look at the legal rulings in this case and they all boil down to “the judicial branch can’t do anything because there is no legal process to enforce the Constitutional requirement.”
      That is more messed up than anything else.

    • Pete

      Oh my goodness! You have the audacity to present actual proof with is irrefutable. Be careful. You’re going to be labelled a hate-monger and a racist (even if you are black yourself).

    • Retired_MSgt_Marana_Az

      Perhaps, because Adobe Systems is the foremost user of PDF (Portable Data Files)

    • Pete

      Kathleen, these “facts” are, in reality, opinions. Very biased, inaccurate opinions. That is not a “notion of reality.” It is reality, And reality is slapping you in the face trying its best to awaken you before it is too late.

    • DaHeat

      You’re right, Snopes.com is a left-wing web site, and can’t be trusted. Too many uninformed people turn to Snopes to verify data, just to be given the Obama version, and not necessarily true…

    • Hidlins

      Yes, It’s well known that snopes is funded by “Soros”!!

    • marezeee

      thank you namelessNOOb, i thought i would have to correct Kathleen myself….snoops is for ignoramus libs

    • Pete

      Kathleen is blind. We, her critics, should be above the personal slurs and present the facts accurately. We should make an effort to compose an intelligible message which presents a valid point with supporting evidence. Let’s avoid stuff like that written by siquijorisland above.
      Kathleen and her comrades deserve a literate response to their biased rhetoric.

    • onerightstand

      Snopes owned by a husband/wife team of CA lefties! Lets’ see compare a molecular biology & biochemistry scientist/academic with a pair of lefties in their living room and a computer! Training and skills do mean something in some places in the world!

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Oh, so “lefties” are, by definition, wrong? How about dealing with the issues brought up in the Snopes article, or is that to above your head?

    • pappadave

      Lefties lie. That’s a given. There’s never been a leftie who wouldn’t lie, cheat, steal, even murder to get what he wants…dot…period…end of sentence.

    • hibp

      I worked with them for 25 years and almost all of them lied and could not carry on a civil, factual conversation, sad. Additionally, they were really CHEAP when it came to donating money to causes, charities, coworker sympathy cards, etc. I came to the conclusion that they like to think they are such CARING people by voting democratic where taxpayer money is given to someone else. And I always said, “What about YOUR OWN charitable contributions!!?”

    • Doug Thorsen

      Generally speaking, liberals are the most mean-spirited, intolerant people that there are. Liberals are fine as long as you agree with them, if you don’t, those very tolerant, non-violent people will bring out the sharpened long knives.

    • NAFTA Refugee

      I heard it once said that there’s no one more close minded than the open minded liberal.

    • 09dogg38

      Look no further than Joe Biden’s charitable donations.I’m on Social Security,and I give more to charity than he does.He’s not the lone ranger in that department among his fellow Dimocrats either.

    • samtman

      Kathleen,YOu must talking about LyanRyan.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      End of your thought process too.

    • 09dogg38

      Now we’re back to the Kennedys.Fine examples of all you mentioned.

    • gray_man

      i believe what he was saying is that snopes is not a credible source.

    • 09dogg38

      Tell you what,why don’t you go read it,and get off here,where people with common sense can converse without your progressive slanted comments that aren’t worth the time to rebut.Head on back to your area,I’m staying here on earth.Hopefully this is GOODBYE !

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V5CG5GXW7DWXZY5FZHNHSNCW5Q Joe L

      I feel sorry for you.

    • jondarmes

      Hey Kathleen, You are only half right, leftwingers are by definition, wrong and evil.

    • juristbooks

      “Any” sane person , seeing Obama demanding private income tax returns from his opponent would wonder, or should wonder WHy, if Obama is demanding disclosure then why is not he opening up his law records from Illinois; his collegiate records, namely, I as a veteran , Citizen and Independent voter ‘want’ FULL disclosure from ‘all’ of them, the President, ALL challengers, every damn one. And whodropped the ball? I beleieve Immigration is first; thenColumbia Univ, then the Media. These maggots (all of them) have turned out country in to a 3rd world joke ! Damn.

    • Pete

      Kathleen, until you learn (if that is possible) to discuss the issue rather than attacking the other person, EVERYTHING ELSE IS “above your head. It seems that you have some opinions about issues. Let’s hear what you have to say about those, not all the personal slurs spewing from your mind. The “lefties” thing is something down at your level. Pick yourself up. Address the issue that was raised: The credibility of an academic trained in molecular biology and biochemistry versus that of someone skilled in using a computer in determining the validity of documents. If your life, or your freedom were dependent upon testimony given by an expert, which would you prefer (be honest) someone who is an expert on Adobe, or someone who is an internationally recognized expert in molecular biology and biochemistry? Your choice will reveal your own credibility.

    • jdangiel

      snopes is funded by snoops.

    • Tony

      Snopes is a biased site run by a husband and wife left wing loonies. Also funded by Soros the anti – American piece of garbage.

    • Chuck Cronmiller

      Kathleen
      Snopes is a leftist site owned by the Democrats, oh excuse me I meant the Progressive/Socialist/Marxist/Communist party

    • http://www.facebook.com/jimmy.douglas.31 Jimmy Douglas

      OMG….Snopes????? Well if they say so, it must be true…ROFLMAO

    • gray_man

      snopes must be true, wikapedia told me so.

    • gray_man

      :-)

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      And you’ll never know because you don’t read Scopes, right? Especially on this subject.

    • 09dogg38

      What is scopes?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neal-Avery/100003816547114 Neal Avery

      “Scopes?”

    • WW

      Snopes is funded by George Soros, no more needs to be said.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Not true, more has to be said, ON THIS SUBJECT. And Scopes did a very thorough analysis, none of which you’re willing to read due to a Soros thing having nothing to do with what was written on this subject by Scopes. You are closed minded and, at “Freedom”post, that’s a tradition, so you’re is good company.

    • 09dogg38

      Well we’ve offended you with our facts,and your lack of them.If I was you,I’d get pissed off and leave.Bye.

    • pilot

      If you know the internet well enough, and do research on snopes, – you will find that they are a liberal based (biased) organization. So we know for a fact,- that they a have done all the research themselves, and determined by their own expertise that the certificate is genuine??

    • TAM

      It is a fake! Do a little research on your own.
      2. The birth certificate
      that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961. It
      indicates thatBarack Hussein Obama was his father. No big deal, right? At the
      time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and
      that Obama’s father was born in ” Kenya , East Africa .” This
      wouldn’t seem like anything of concern, except the fact that ‘ Kenya ’ did not
      even exist until 1963, two years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his
      father’s birth. How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did
      not yet exist? Until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the
      “British East Africa Protectorate.”

      CHECK IT OUT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_

    • William Mercer

      Kathleen, I am a scientist. I deal with facts and truths, or I collapse. I have personally found snopes to be totally wrong on some matters, and only partly right on others. Quite often, it is a matter of semantics they are arguing about, one word versus one they prefer over the one someone else uses. I abandoned Snopes long ago, after trusting them for a while at my detriment. You are the one who needs to change and work for an open mind that can reason.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Fine, maybe they’ve been wrong. I want to know where they are wrong HERE, with this subject. I never said Snopes was right on all issues, nor did I ever imply so. I am stating that they’ve debunked the fraud perpetrated by the article found here at “Freedom”post and I’d like to see you addressing that, specific, issue.
      As a scientist, you know that peer review is part of the process and that all articles found in journals aren’t true, as further experiments or refinements in mathematics may disclose. So, be scientific and peer review the Scopes article and then tell me what you think.

    • Chris in Kalifornia

      If they aren’t trustworthy, and I know personally they are not, then why go to them for anything?

      Try truth or fiction dot com instead.

    • YouareaGump

      SNOPES= HOGWASH

    • Eagle 2

      @Kathleen Beacon. What a laugher! Who in the world would use Snopes as the final word of truth? Look up who founded Snopes and is running it. It is a liberal/socialist rag of lies parading as a “truth squad.” Who hasn’t used the Internet well enough to do research? I really don’t blame you because I used Snopes as a reference for years until I caught it in a big fat lie. That prompted me to do some research on the validity of Snopes – what a shocker. A number of my friends did not believe me until they did their own research and were equally shocked.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Stick with the facts of what Snopes wrote ON THIS SUBJECT, OK? Then tell me where they are untruthful and invalid. Otherwise, you have no case.

    • Doug Thorsen

      Snopes is being proven as untruthful on this one matter right now when you consider what the Israeli Science officer has proven in regards to the alleged Obama birth certificate. What you have to wonder about is why did it take so long for Obama to produce a basic document that most of us would be have no problems in producing?

    • 09dogg38

      Read this S L O W Snopes is far left driven,and therefore unreliable for factual verification purposes. So just keep repeating your same stupid diatribe over and over,and make it come true.That is of course the dimocrat way.Yes I know that is misspelled,but not in our eyes.Again,we all hope this is GOODBYE!

    • fdleupp

      You need to do a little studying, yourself. Many high level investigators have examined this fraud and all come to the same conclusion . Open your eyes…and check your biases.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      The supposed “many high level investigators” have been proven wrong, as this article completely depicts. If you read the investigators who allege fraud, you’ll find their errors, one by one. But you didn’t, did you? You just believe what your read somewhere, probably here.

    • squeak

      Just as you do ….you believe Snopes, don’t you , does that make you right ? I don’t think so…Snopes is a propaganda site for Obama …. nothing comes out of Snopes that is true ! You should give it up as you will not win as long as you promote Snopes or any other liberal sites !

    • 09dogg38

      I think Sandra Fluke is calling you,why don’t you go answer it.

    • Glen Ganges

      And the reason Obama has spent 3+ million to redact ALL of his personal history is because he has nothing to hide. Regarding the scan, you have to ask also why would the WH want to OCR the scan in the first place? Scanning to pdf, OCR is not a default. More than likely Frank Davis is his father and his mother Stanley, was introduced to Davis by her Marxist Father. The Great American Family. It’s all very sketchy.

    • http://twitter.com/bizmarkiedesade Ho Chi Mane

      Given the options of “the scanning software used OCR” or “an elaborate conspiracy of silence implicating many people for decades has never been uncovered” you chose the latter. Ockham would like his razor back if you’re not going to use it.

    • hibp

      I’m sorry to say Kathleen that snopes is no longer an objective site. I used to believe in this site, but not anymore….

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      Yea, well, before you write it off, go read the web reference (
      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp ) and then tell me what facts weren’t objective. Otherwise, live with your refusals to obtain your information from all sources available. I even read the tripe on “Freedom”post.

    • JJ

      Snopes has long been a front site for Obama, it was run by ultra leftist husband n wife team… Bought by Soros… It pays big to be a traitor of the US

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      No facts to argue this subject about? Who pays for “Freedom”post. I don’t care. What they lie about, I care about. Facts please, not your BS.

    • JJ

      Kathleen, if you cared for FACTS you would already have known thàt snopes is a propaganda site for Obama from day one…..but u lost this by believing snopes is telling the truth that an Internet document is valid…. There is a dupe born every hour

    • squeak

      She is a paid disguise by Snopes & this regime… if you notice it is a broken record ,nothing of true worth while substance…she has put no issues out there , the only thing she says Over & over ” no facts to argue, facts please, read Snopes for true facts, etc… What a Mental Midget !

    • JJ

      HaHa!!!! So true… Lost souls in the Marxist sea

    • 09dogg38

      No,we’re better off with your bullshit huh? Another sad vote for the fraud in chief. No amount of proof or God forbid,(can I still say God?)common sense would ever change your mind. Enjoy your crop,as ye sow,so shall ye reap.Working towards 17 trillion now. Enjoy the crop.

    • drdgonflyr

      Kathleen you don’t care about facts, you are too busy sucking your thumb.

    • gray_man

      snopes? ha, ha, ha, snopes was proven a joke years ago.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.beacon Kathleen Beacon

      And of course because you believe this nonsense you won’t ever read it, right? Nor will you address any issue with facts. Figures.

    • gray_man

      I’m sorry to disappoint you but, I’ve caught snopes lying over things that I new were facts because I witnessed them. I did just a few seconds research about snopes and found out what they really are. a shill for the left. I believe a credentialed scientist over a husband and wife team of clowns any day.

    • gray_man

      and another thing Kathleen. I’m sure you are a person who means well, but actually you are part of the problem. You think the end all-be all of factual information are two clowns in their basement on computers. Hells bells they’ve got no more access to info than any body else who can use the internet. you need to do some independent research instead of relying on these two clowns. you know like a real reporter. Then use your cognitive ability to come to your own conclusions. snopes is the lazy way and not very good at that.

    • Les

      Where’d you get your degree in professional multimedia and digital graphics? I’ve been doing both since they came out. The PDF birth certificate is a fake.

    • David

      Ask snopes anything about king obama and it will be answered in the positive. Snopes is a democrat site.

    • Doug Thorsen

      My question would be who is fact-checking what snopes.com attests as being fact or fiction?

    • Lyn Verna

      @ Kathleen Beacon I don’t believe snopes anymore as they get their money from an organization that is funded by the left. It’s a “hush hush” organization. They try to distance themselves from the fact that they are indeed a left based organization. If Snopes discloses that they get money from them…the organization cuts the money stream. I found this information on the internet. Since you are so good at checking out sources…go find it. It’s there, you just have to know where to look.

    • just ramblin

      Kathleen,why would you believe snopes when george soros funds it?
      That makes their answers SUSPECT.
      just rambling

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V5CG5GXW7DWXZY5FZHNHSNCW5Q Joe L

      Snopes is as liberal the Pres.Your hogwash.

    • JC

      I don’t need to fact check with snopes on this or any other subject. I can do my own research. Besides someone I DO Trust has all the facts anyway. Sherriff Joe Arpaio and some other real Americans investigated and found the long form birth certificate, the military registration AND the 5 SS numbers were all fraudulent.
      And I picked up on something immediately while viewing the “original” long form B/C. It lists his father’s birthplace as being Kenya. In 1961 Kenya didn’t exist. It was called British East Africa. So how did Kenya get onto a 1961 Birth Certificate? Obama’s idiot forger’s didn’t know enough history to catch that one, did they? LOL

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Mueller/100000616851251 John Mueller

      I don’t want any crap from Snopes. I want verifiably true evidence from BO – not an amateurish construction of a BC.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001376843072 John Williams

      Israeli security is considered the best in the world ! Living in denial is not smart , and may in fact be dangerous to your health ! The reason legislators and the media will not research this is , they do not want to be labeled racists !

    • Bos95

      Snopes was founded by a liberal couple from California. Don’t trust anything that they publish.

    • Ron A

      You should not gaulp, your Obama kool-aid so fast. it can couse brain damage.

    • AlarmBelle

      The liberal communist ‘secret’ is out. Don’t even ‘try’ any longer to spread the lies; we KNOW the truth now. NOBAMA in 2012. No Progressives in 2012.

    • Ron A

      You should google Obama’s First Executive Order. It was to seal all his records. Why? Makes one think he had somthing to hide dose it not?

    • Marine223

      SNOPES IS FUNDED BY GEORGE SOROS, WHO, BTW, HAS TAKEN DOWN MULTIPLE (OTHER) COUNTRY’S AND THEIR CURRANCY! HE ALSO PULLS THE STRINGS UNDER THE EMPTY SUIT IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!

    • USMC DAV

      I’m sorry Kathleen, but you got brainwashed with the propaganda this a–hole has been putting out ever since he came from nowhere and now thinks he is god. His propaganda chief is way better than Goerbels, from the previous hitler. Grow up.

    • NAFTA Refugee

      Snopes was debunked and found to be run by a very biased couple. It is hardly “true information.”

    • hiway280z

      check out snoopes. They are bought by soro’s and the dems. They have been caught in lie’s

    • CORNELIUS

      THANK THE INTERNET??? THAT’S LIKE SAYING YOU SHOULD “THANK A BOOK” BECAUSE IT CONTAINED WRITTEN INFORMATION WHETHER TRUE OR FALSE. IN THIS CASE, SNOPES IS A PROPAGANDA TRAPSITE AS DILUTED AS YOU ARE, AND TWICE AS INTELLIGENT-(OBVIOUSLY)-NOTICE I DIDN’T SAY ‘TWICE AS ACCURATE” HONEY. BEACON OF STUPIDITY THAT YOU ARE-(AGAIN,-OBVIOUSLY). ALSO-’USED IT WELL ENOUGH’??? TRY ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE SOMETIME, IF YOU CAN “USE IT WELL ENOUGH”

    • Plaintruths

      Kathleen, unfortunately due to where I live, our timeas a very different so I am late in this reply. But if Pres. Obama has nothing to hide, why are so many of his recordds “sealed”. College admissions forms 30 years ago, what could be in those he does not want people to see? So tell us why Gov. Romney’s tax returns are so important and Pres. Obama’s records are not. Especially since Sen. Obama said (paraphrasing) anyone who does not reveal his past obviously is hiding something. And for tax records, if Reid is right, then he is claiming the IRS is invilved because they allow Romney to be a tax cheat. Just be logical, and be consistent at the same time.
      That consistency thing is where Snopes et al get bogged down.

    • ixnay00

      everyone knows that snopes.com contributed the wrong facts because they are baised. the father of lies has a son (oboma) and he has gained a friend with the people of snopes

    • akingu

      Snopes has already been found to be fraudulantly run by two lying kikes. It’s as useful as the jew-owned, censored and edited Wikipedia!

    • CounterRevolution

      Snopes is funded in part by the “Tides Foundation” a Geroge Soros front organization. Sorry……

    • http://www.facebook.com/karen.ruff1 Karen Ruff

      Since you are such a knowledgeable Snopes expert, instead of joining the progressive crowd and just mocking those who seek the truth, why don’t YOU provide the answers. YOU tell us why the birth certificate is so obviously assembled on photoshop that even an amateur can detect it. You tell us why Obama has spent millions of dollars to keep all of his records hidden. You tell us why he has used multiple social security numbers and why his selective service card has a two digit offset year stamp when no such stamp ever exisited. YOU tell us why the lady who worked in Hawaii during the time Obama was born was able to tell what the pencil marks mean and why they prove that it is an altered document. GIVE US JUST ONE TRUE, TECHNICAL EXPLANATION FOR ANY OF THE ABERRATIONS INSTEAD OF JUST SPOUNTING YOUR SAUL ALISNKY CRAP AND YOU MIGHT GAIN A SHRED OF CREDIBILITY.

    • nancy miller

      Read that George Soros ownes a 60 per cent share of Snopes. Sure you want to use them as a source?

    • Pete

      Kathleen, we understand. We’ve all seen a similar reaction from those who believe Mohammed was a prophet. When one ignores or vehemently rejects the findings of very qualified and credible sources, such as Dr. Israel Hanukoglu, a professor of biochemistry and molecular biology at Ariel University in Israel, and the investigators employed by Sheriff Joe of Arizona, all among the very best forensic and criminal investigators in the world, one would do well to set aside personal bias and/or opinion and check the facts. You have done what so many who have no argument seem to do, you’ve refused to discuss the facts and turned instead to a personal attack against the messenger. Don’t kill the messenger, at least until you’ve examined the message.

    • Sutekh

      Yeah, Kathleen, why believe in Auschwitz when you can check a neonazi site that has the “truth.”
      During WWII we had Axis Ally and Tokyo Rose to tell us the “truth.” Now we have Snopes.

    • redhead

      Beware of anything Snopes.com says. They are a very liberal couple in California and will lean towards the left.

    • pftspd@gmail.com

      ahh… kathleen.. poor guir.. or are you really a birthed female, or a sex change pervert? no matter.. if you are defending this fudgepacker communist in the white house, then you deserve whatever you get.. likely a line in the rest room to one of those chicago fudgepacker clubs that obama loves so much.. and defends.. you are a moron.. uninformed, uneducated, and an apparent communist

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OC6SKJLQDZEY674X7VRYBWH6AI Tom

      @ Kathleen Beacon: SNOPES is as fixed as a stacked deck of cards.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1299974078 Robert Thompson

      I use my intuition to determine if something is wrong until proven right. If something exist, in this case a simple piece of paper with some vital statistics on it and can’t be produced for three years and then all of a sudden miraculously appears, and forensic experts declare that it is a fraud, a forgery, then I think that I’ll stick with my intuition. You can have your George Soros snopes spinning machine. Conclusion. It’s fake and /or never existed. Three years and all of that time and effort to hide this document. Give me a break.

    • TAM

      You are so right. Check this out
      3. On the President’s birth certificate released by the White House, the listed
      place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital.”
      This cannot be because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were named
      “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity
      Home,” respectively. The name did not change to Kapi’olani Maternity &
      Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can
      this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if
      this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
      CHECK IT OUT: http://www.kapiolani.org/women
      4. Why hasn’t this been discussed in the major media? Perhaps a clue comes from
      Obama’s book. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. Barack
      Obama’s “birth certificate” says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when he
      was born. That would put his father’s date of birth approximately 1936. WW II
      was fought between 1939 and 1945. How many 3-year-olds fight in wars? Even in
      the later stages of WW II his father wouldn’t have been more than 9 years old. Does that mean that
      Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his ima
      gina tion for political purposes? Doesn’t that still qualify him as a liar?

    • Canadianlady

      Snopes is an extremely unreliable source of information.

    • http://www.facebook.com/bunny.pirotte Bunny Pirotte

      Guess where snopes gets most of their info? The LIBERAL media! Check their sources.

    • Chuck

      And Snopes is owned and operated by the biggest liberal Crook in the World, and the person that is suspected of fostering the Fraud that is occupying the White House.

    • patriotaz

      Snopes is a fraud.

    • Lee Baldwin

      Judging by the amount of NEGATIVES you received for your comment, Kathleen Beacon, it looks like NOBODY believes HarrisonJ. Bounel’s record of live birth is legitimate. In case you are wondering, Harrison J. Bounel is but one of the Barack Obama’s many names. So you voted for a person that has at least 5 names! Now go check that on snopes.com, Kathleen. Please vote AFTER doing some research next election.

    • Knybee

      Uh, how can it previously debunk and expose the lies that are written here when this Israeli study just came out? Boy they are good!

    • http://www.facebook.com/barbaugh Beryl Bouknight Arbaugh

      Snopes is financed by George Soros—We should go there for fact check???

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1265667361 Dave Henry

      Snopes, really? This is your source of “truth” on the internet? Do your own research.

    • http://twitter.com/chaotixjoe NamelessN00b
    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      i cant even get the Topeka newspaper to check theri archives for the marriage and birth reocrds of te Presidnet and his mother to the arranged marrige ofconveneice to obama Sr a few months earlier. All terrified Fred Phelps?

    • John

      According to the movie “2016″ the senior Obama was still married to his wife in Africa when he supposedly married junior Obama’s mother, if I recall correctly.

    • Sutekh

      Yes. But it gives the Democrats ample opportunity to make fools of themselves by complaining that Romney is objectionable because he is the son of polygamists.

    • Flayer

      He is NOT the son of polygamists. LOL! And what if he were? Suddenly someone’s marriage is under assault by those who want gay marriage?

    • Lee Baldwin

      is that why the guy elected as obama has so many names? ~Harrison J. Bounel, Barry Soetoro,Bari M.Shebazz, Barack Obama Soebarkah & Barack Hussein Obama are all the same creepy guy!

    • Raymond

      Barack Hussein Obama admits that he was born in Kenya.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player_embedded

    • patriotaz

      And he is a self-proclaimed Muslim. View the video that Hannity was going to show on Fox News, but it was pulled. Everyone needs to see this.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

    • Kcove

      hmm, this video looks like it might be doctored. Maybe we should get the crack team who reviewed the birth certificate to weigh in on its authenticity.

    • Lee Baldwin

      Well, “REAL JOURNALISM” isn’t dead, it is now only on the internet. Television news has changed to being ‘shows’ -they even call it a show. Mainly to support the movie industry and car chases, so not ‘news’ of any kind. Main Stream media might also be puppets to people such as George Soros, and it is definelty used by the Barry SHOW. That is all the obama admin has been -A SHOW and it would only garner about a 2. (epic failure)

    • ssilv48

      Yes, CoffeNerves, but soon mr oboma will have the power to shut the internet down, just another freedom taken from you.

    • http://twitter.com/chaotixjoe NamelessN00b

      The US Government has the support of Russia and China. Calling out this fraud will just prove to be a death wish.

    • alio

      Well duh? Most of us have had suspicions about who or what this man is. There have been many theories, but I think he came down from Mars. see his ears.
      Many think he’s been groomed from birth or shortly afterward so they could build a story about him. He leaned toward the Muslim brotherhood, it was a fit for him.

      I still can’t get out of my head, things, like not putting his hand over his heart honoring our flag, refusing to wear a flag lapel pin when all were wearing them, the mistake (haha) of saying he was a Muslim (he forgot) and all his funny friends who lean in multiple ways that aren’t consistent with American Values.
      Nothing about him fits with American beliefs. (maybe he did come from mars)

    • highfive

      hey, I like your theory. I believe this is a very logical explanation. lol..
      anyway, I love your view and it brought a smile to my face. Don’t forget, we have a wolf in sheep clothing at the helm and all the blind sheep are following him regardless which path he is taking to sink America into doom. thanks for making me smile

    • 09dogg38

      You say sheep,I say lemmings.

    • ROWDY YATES

      YEP NO ONE WILL DO ANYTHING BECAUSE!!!!!!!

      HE’S BLACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!! HE IS THE FIRST BLACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!! ´PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 09dogg38

      True dat.

    • David S. McQueen

      The Republicans are scared of being called “racist” if they question Obama’s legitimacy. They care, but they are COWARDS, too, and won’t do anything to elicit the dreaded “racism” smear by the Marxists.

    • Paul Brown

      Eric, the only thing I can think is its because everybody has been trying to get a black in the w h for a long time and now no body wants to be the first to admit this jerk is a muslim moron. If they did they are afraid of a black uprising in america. I really dodne a crap if there is, just get rid of this treasnous pig now!!!!!!!!!!!! or we will all pay royally this time. Mark my words we will all pay for it.

    • mallen11

      Eric, those in so called power in WDC are full of fear for their own lives and fear that riots will break out across this Nation.

      Is 41:10 ‘Do not fear, for I am with you; do
      not anxiously look about you, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, surely
      I will help you, surely I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.’

      II Tim 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit
      of fear, but of power and love and discipline.

      II Tim 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit
      of fear, but of power and love and discipline.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Joy-Adams/1611938509 Linda Joy Adams

      Justice for three dead in a racil hate cirme including one is the alleged real dad. with o investigations and all the authoittieswanted to do is sut up a 15 yer old pregnant girl. see my facebook starting 7.26.12 and in dialy recaps since

    • http://www.facebook.com/darrell.bradley.39 Darrell Bradley

      What should be done? The main stream RINO’s are too scared; they want to ‘gain control of the Sneate’ to do what?? So they can pass out the goodies and not the Dems; O’connell, and Boener are the problem……..they gotta go

    • Hillary

      Everyone! Really. Everyone. Methinks y are a bit high on something other than chicken. A. Majority of Americans tahinkmy guys are certified nutcases. Really. Sheriff Joe, Trump and his merry band of old white men right men nutcases. K

    • JC

      What?

    • James

      I second the “What?” and raise you a, Huh?
      “High on something other than chicken.” That one is new to me.
      Hillary, I think your prejudice is showing.
      Lets put the following statement through the Left’s PC filter.
      “merry band / of old / white / men / right men / nutcases.”
      I’m guessing “merry band” in this context is drunken or intoxicated rather than gay since your using Left-Speak.
      So the translation woulb be “drunken / senile / racist / sexist / fascist / mentally incompetent (people)”
      Why is it that the Conservatives get shredded for saying stuff like this but the Liberals all think were being rediculous when we apply the same standards to them?

    • JC

      Hillary! Really! Methinks box or frogs banana boy and lefty pistachios, bleep commies and genuine kool aid likkers no git sensible thimk. Yer Thots?

    • Vox populi

      Eric, the problem is now that with less than two months till the election, there is no chance of an Impeach process finishing before the Election, not to Mention that Harry Reid’s Senate won’t do diddley. Unless, God forbid, Obama wins the Election but loses control of Congress AND the Senate. Oy vey!

    • just ramblin

      Because beohner is a yellowbelly and does not have the GUTS to do anything about it.
      The SHAMEFULL part is they have guts when it comes to protecting their POCKETBOOKS they have ILLEGALLY FILLED to sell this country and it’s PEOPLE down the river.
      Remember The CONSTITUTION is FOR the PEOPLE,and the minute a CORPORATION sends a LOBBYIST to conGRESS ,the ceo and the lobbyists should be TRIED FOR TREASON and taken out and HUNG BY THE NECK UNTIL DEAD.
      Then any judge that interfered with the process should have the same RESULT.
      The government is subservient to the PEOPLE not the other way around.
      harod brown marcie kaptur beohner the yellowbelly and reid the horsethief and piglosi are the worst kind of TRAITORS.!!!!!!!!!!
      This country had REAL MEN and WOMEN that gave their lives and fortunes so we could be FREE and see what we get when we are NOT VIGILANT.
      just rambling

    • Robert

      I agree. You know the FBI, the CIA and all of Washington knows his birth cert. is fake, so why doesn’t some do something?. That’s the real question. You can go on you tube and see how it was faked.

    • WASP

      Why? Because all our congressional politweasels know he’s owned and operated by the same rich, powerful NWO crooks that own many of them. Plus, they obviously abdicated their responsibilities to assure his “credentials” were legit, making them accessories to the biggest fraud every perpetrated in the US.

    • JC

      I rank it as the second biggest fraud. The greatest fraud occurred in 1913 when we handed a bunch of private foreign bankers the keys to the prining press. Abolish the (non) Federal (no) Reserve(s) Bank. And give us back our economic freedom.

    • Pete

      Not everyone believes Buma is a fraud. There are still some who believe the earth is flat, that Elvis is alive, that the moon is made of cheese, and we need to go back to dial telephones.

    • LadyforLiberty

      A bit late now, as November id election day!
      May be academic!!

    • James Maxwell

      The fraud was exposed before the 2008 election when the democrats challenged
      John McCains qualifications. The GOP leaders sat on their backside and did
      not even bring up nor challenge obama at that time. Why not is the question that
      I want answered. Since he has slithered ashore in America the paper trail that ever
      person leaves has been cloueded and convoluted beyond beleif. Now you cannot
      find his Passport informaiton as to which one he used to enter the US, He has multipl
      Social Security numbers, His so called draft papers are missing or hidden. His
      college application, financial records, transcripts or GPA are not available for public
      scrunity. At the time of his so called birth his father was traveling under a British
      passport. When he was in Kenya he was in a muslim Maddress school, trained
      and raised as a muslim. Yet all this seems to be totally blanked out from the view
      of the Nation he claims to be representing currently. There are so many snakes
      in his woodpile that we may never know the truth and the politican currently in office
      are afraid that the truth will come out . If and when it does they will go down as the
      cowards who condemned our nation to fall from GOD’s grace and into a footnote
      in history as the nation destroyed from within by corruption and political cowards.

    • Raymond

      Muslim demographic video …
      Barack Hussein Obama’s people
      are taking over America & here is the proof……
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

    • Patriot47

      Only the people can do something, like Vote. Obama is just a puppet for the Syndicate.

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