Is The Threat Of An Iranian Nuke Real Or Just Propaganda?


6a00d834516bb169e2015436d92128970c-800wiWhile there has been a lot of talk about Iranians actually producing a nuclear device, what is even more amazing is the rhetoric hasn’t changed in nearly two decades by Israeli President Benjamin Natanyahu. Even our own government doesn’t know whether Iran is even working on a nuclear weapon, but they have offered similar speculation.

For instance, the Jerusalem Post reported in January of 1995:

A SERIOUS threat of nuclear war hangs over Israel, Likud leader Binyamin Netanyahu told the Knesset plenum yesterday. Only a handful of MKs and no ministers were present to hear Netanyahu’s warning that Iran will be capable of nuclear war within five years.

“Within three to five years, we can assume that Iran will become autonomous in its ability to develop and produce a nuclear bomb, without having to import either the technology or the material,” Netanyahu said. “[The nuclear threat] must be uprooted by an international front headed by the US. It necessitates economic sanctions on Iran.”

In 1997, experts said Iran was eight to ten years out for acquiring nuclear weapons. In fact, an Iranian official was quoted as saying, “Yes, some say we must have the atomic bomb. But we can’t afford it. The political consequences are too much trouble, and it’s expensive.”

Scott Peterson, of the Christian Science Monitor, wrote in 1997,

Iran’s stated policy is to ensure peace in the region. And some argue that nuclear weapons could provide that stability.

“When Mao and Stalin acquired nuclear weapons, they calmed down,” says Martin van Creveld, an Israeli military historian in Jerusalem. “If Islamic states get the bomb, the effect will be the same. Once you have the ‘absolute weapon,’ war ceases to be fun. It becomes suicide.”

Russia even chimed in on the issue. Peterson continues,

“Russia is increasingly worried about its decaying stockpile of more than 20,000 nuclear warheads. Radioactive material often disappears from state facilities. Ukraine has reportedly become a main smugglers’ route.

And the Israeli situation adds fuel to the fire. “As long as Israel can have atomic bombs … then other countries have a good excuse to pursue their plans,” says Ebrahim Yazdi, an opposition leader in Tehran.”

In a recent article Peterson outlines that as late 1998, the CIA was refuting former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s assertion that they could build an intercontinental ballistic missile that could hit the US in five years. The CIA said it was more like twelve.

Peterson then points out what happened between 2010 and 2001. He writes,

Despite reports and intelligence assessments to the contrary, Israeli and many US officials continue to assume that Iran is determined to have nuclear weapons as soon as possible.

August 2010: An article by Jeffrey Goldberg in The Atlantic’s September issue is published online, outlining a scenario in which Israel would chose to launch a unilateral strike against Iran with 100 aircraft, “because a nuclear Iran poses the gravest threat since Hitler to the physical survival of the Jewish people.”

Drawing on interviews with “roughly 40 current and past Israeli decision makers about a military strike” and American and Arab officials, Mr. Goldberg predicts that Israel will launch a strike by July 2011. The story notes previous Israeli strikes on nuclear facilities in Iraq and Syria, and quotes Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu saying, “You don’t want a messianic apocalyptic cult controlling atomic bombs. When the wide-eyed believer gets hold of the reins of power and the weapons of mass death, then the world should start worrying, and that’s what is happening in Iran.”

In fact, later in November of 2011, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said that some of the nuclear work that Iran was engaged in was for the production of weapon, yet they provided no evidence of a weapon at all. In fact, while they claimed Iran was engaged in nuclear weapons technology, their own reports said, “The application of such studies to anything other than a nuclear explosive is unclear to the Agency.”

So is it clear or unclear? Again, the Christian Science Monitor writes,

The IAEA reached a similar conclusion in a previous report, in which it registered “serious concerns” about “possible military dimensions to Iran’s nuclear program.”

Iran’s failure to address outstanding issues presented by the intelligence documents, aside from a 117-page explanation in May 2008, meant that Iran was scolded, as in the past, for “not providing the necessary cooperation.”

As a result, the IAEA stated that again it is “unable to provide credible assurance… that all nuclear material in Iran is in peaceful activities.”

But then they aren’t able to provide credible assurance that all nuclear material in Iran is not in peaceful activities. Our own Defense Department doesn’t even know what is going on in Iran enough to be sure if they are creating nuclear weapons.

Are people against Israel having nukes? I’m not. In fact in recently released FBI documents, that have been declassified, they reveal

“a 1985–2002 investigation into how a network of front companies connected to the Israeli Ministry of Defense illegally smuggled nuclear triggers out of the U.S.* The newly released FBI files detail how Richard Kelly Smyth — who was convicted of running a U.S. front company — met with Benjamin Netanyahu in Israel during the smuggling operation. At that time, Netanyahu worked at the Israeli node of the smuggling network, Heli Trading Company. Netanyahu, who currently serves as Israel’s prime minister, recently issued a gag order that the smuggling network’s unindicted ringleader refrain from discussing “Project Pinto.”

One thing that nukes do is they level the playing field. Only one country on the face of the earth has actually used nukes: America. We did so twice and that was all they needed to be used. The fear struck in the hearts of people over nuclear devices was unbelievable and it remains today. Nukes are like guns. You have them in the hopes of not having to use them.

It seems to me that we should follow the words of Theodore Roosevelt and “speak softly, and carry a big stick.” America would be wise to be careful in her endeavors of sending more of our young men and women to be engaged in a conflict that could cost them their lives when for nearly two decades we have been hearing the cries of wolf. Any man who has been in war knows it is Hell and would not desire any man to actually engage in it unless absolutely necessary.

The Constitution provides for a national defense of our country, not a worldwide offensive strike against anyone we deem to be working on technology that we ourselves possess, not to mention their neighbors. Is that pacifism? Not at all. It’s called being cautious and right in what we do.



  • Bill Weston

    Israeli intelligence regarding Iran is many times better than ours. Therefore we must listen to them and consider the motivations behind the issue. Iran, like all of the middle east countries wants Israel out. Reason and restraint there doesn’t seem to work very well without the threat of force, Hence nuculear capability in Iran will shift the balance of power against Israel. This should not, therefore, be considered as simple propaganda, but clear thinking is needed. Israel has been our best ally in the middle east though not the only ally. So we must listen.

  • reggiec

    “Once you have the ‘absolute weapon,’ war ceases to be fun. It becomes suicide.”
    The problem is that both Russia and China when they acquired nuclear weapons were not run by fanatics that think death for jihad is honorable. I have never heard a Russian or a Chinese brag about getting any number of virgins in paradise for commiting suicide.

    • Ulysse Grémillon

      You are reflecting standard propaganda about Islam, and by extension Iran and its people. There are fanatics in every country. But as Dave Sosa says, any level-headed individual would be concerned about the warmongering by the US and Israel, and the people of Iran are level-headed. The real fanatics are in the upper echelons of the military, who during the Cold War (which was a sham) had plans to annihilate hundreds of cities in the USSR, and tens of millions of innocent civilians. These same fanatics are now playing around with the possibility of nuclear war, and this time it is more likely to actually happen than it was during the Cold War.

    • Pablo Descartes

      I see the Useless Gremlin is sharing his slanted leftists opinion again. It amuses me that a liberal troll, the likes of Useless Gremlin, feel the need to enter a site for conservative dialogue and share leftist philosophy. Why waste time with the horrible right wingers when there are plenty of sights dedicated to imagining the great socialistic utopia where this Useless Gremlin would be welcomed. Why not chump it up with ed schultz or mother Jones? Guess it’s time to research another lib troll…

  • Josephco

    Up until now the Iranians have not attacked Israel because the U.S. would back the Jewish State in any conflict. Now that the Obama administration doesn’t want to get involved and is trying to distance itself from the Iranian/Israeli conflict I am quiet sure the Iranians, as soon as they get their hands on an atomic bomb will not think it over before dropping one in the middle of Jerusalem.

    • Ulysse Grémillon

      It took awhile for the propaganda shills to move in, but here you are, mon ami! As many here have already said, Iran would be insane to even contemplate attacking Israel. They know that if they did, even with a car bomb made of horse manure and cheap beer, Israel would retaliate with nuclear weapons. If you think that everyone here swallows the mindless, endlessly repeated memes about Iran being run by fanatics, you are mistaken.
      By the way, Jerusalem is not the capital of Israel, Tel Aviv is. And both those cities are less than 1,000 miles from Tehran. That’s closer than Houston is to Chicago. Do you think Chicago politicians would be able to convince their citizens to drop an atomic bomb on Houston? Especially knowing that Houston would retaliate with 300 of them? Do some reading, do some thinking, mon ami.

    • Leonard

      You are really naive.The Ayotollah and Acmedenijahd are trying to bring an end to the world so that Mohamed would return, plus they think they would be rewarded with 72 virgins.Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, has been for hundreds of years.

    • oldcoyote

      Where do you get the 72 virgin propaganda? From your talmud? There’s nothing about 72 virgins in the Koran,

    • Leonard

      It’s radical Islam that believes that .Do some research.You might learn something.

    • oldcoyote

      Just more lying jew propaganda. It’s their way of life.

    • Leonard

      Your a racist aren’t you?

    • oldcoyote

      Not at all. I tell it the way it is and there is always a jew pig somewhere that stand the truth

    • Pablo Descartes

      Oh, Mon amigo, Useless Gremlin, Liberal Troll, or whatever your silly little name is, tell us of this wonderful ‘religion of peace’ and the pedophile prophet mohhamed. Tell us of the laudible arab spring, and the level headed muslim brotherhood & their ally ahmedenijad. I hunger for your great wisdom Mon amijoto.

  • oldcoyote

    Iran clearly stated they only want domestic nuclear power and not nuclear bombs. They signed the NPT and have followed IAEA guidelines and inspections. Israhell refuses to sign the NPTreaty and is illegal in all respects. They developed nuclear bombs under the table and threaten the world with them.

    • Leonard

      Why would you ever believe a mad man like Ahmedenijahd.

    • oldcoyote

      Why would anybody believe lard bottom Sharron or pig face Satanyahu? Lard bottom’s paying for some of his sins now and Satanyahu’s time is coming soon.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Sosa/100002957876404 Dave Sosa

    if i were in IRANS shoes, and israel wishes to attack me. along with america’s zionist owned government, and i was surrounded by 45 american military bases and just out my window i see a bunch of ships, not to forget to mention all the nato but kissers. i would have to say I TOO WOULD WANT NUKES! i would say there is a clear and present danger from real terrorists. i should have a right to defend myself by manufacturing nukes as a deterrent israel has over 400 nukes of all sizes, THEY are the main threat, not iran. iran has not attacked anyone for 300 years. israel has last week. and incidentally they have attacked america, the only middle eastern country to do so, and they’re out ally? time for some real fact checking folks, things are a bit flippity flop here with friends like this who needs enemies.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Peacock/100001241183282 David Peacock

    is your name BUBBA??????

  • adamenochnoah

    This is why I have been telling people that Romney has the potential to be an extremely dangerous president. He has spoken about strengthening the US Military that is already the strongest & the most well funded in the history of the world. He has surrounded himself with neocons who are totally committed to the Globalist/CFR plan to invade & control 7 nations in Eurasia in order to insure American dominance of the world for the next 2-3 hundred years. This is only part of the plan that includes controlling China, Russia, India, & finally America as they finalize their World Govt.

    • siquijorisland

      So easy to say anything, However what you have written is cloud dancing in fantasy land. Unfortunately for you some of what you have written is patently false.
      Next time try some real, not liberal propaganda, references to prove what you say.

    • adamenochnoah

      Sorry to hear that you are walking in the dark. Everything I said has been well documented & you are only a quick google search away from proving it, if you are so inclined to know the truth…

    • siquijorisland

      Since when do we believe every thing on the internet?
      I was an intelligence analyst.
      Maybe i have more experience than you and my eyes are wide open to the threats.
      I do not believe anything that is not credible even if it is on Google or wiki as they are not always credible sources for anything.
      Do not assume you know everything, keep you eyes open as this is how we learn..
      I am always aware of how much i do not know. Always remembering education comes from a open mind.
      Well documented by who is a key missing element here as this was my question.

    • adamenochnoah

      I don’t care who you are. I have been reading the documents from the ones who are running the show. All you have is a distorted & compartmentalized opinion of what you have been exposed to.

    • oldcoyote

      siquijorisland sounds like one of those idiots that’s educated far beyond it’s intelligence!!

    • adamenochnoah

      Sounded like a feeble attempt at damage control to me…

    • siquijorisland

      until you have a provable point there is nothing to defend or oppose.
      Good day

    • siquijorisland

      And you are so proud of your uninformed opinion i see.

    • siquijorisland

      i think you are not being competently truth full. So i will not be so foolish and to try and inform you of anything as you seem to have all the answers which i can not say for myself. Good day

    • Cats

      True siqui, wiki and google are not always reliable sources of information. But then they are probably as reliable as the US govt or the UN. I’ll go with propaganda for $100 Tim. I think that nukes in Iran is the same story, second verse of the WMDs in Iraq song.

    • Leonard

      B.S

    • adamenochnoah

      Prove me wrong…I know you can’t…

    • Leonard

      The Israelies have the best surveylance in the world.The Jews were caught off guard during the Holocaust and have vowed not to let it happen again. so if Iran says they are going to annialate Israel.They take that threat very seriously.

    • adamenochnoah

      I agree & I do not blame Israel for their concerns, but reality is the last time Iran attacked another country was in 1798. We have to think about facts, too, despite their rhetoric.

    • oldcoyote

      There were more jews after the war then before according to the world almanacs. This proves there was no holocaust as they claimed. They still claim there was to keep extorting money through their holocaust industry from those dumb enough to believe it. The jews have had laws passed in some foreign countries to force people to believe it or go to jail. THE TRUTH NEEDS NO LAWS. IT STANDS ON IT’S OWN MERITS!!

    • raynbene

      Yes, if ionly you would listen and hear the truth –

    • oldcoyote

      WHY THE LAWS????

    • Leonard

      Apparently you haven’t read history.You must have been cutting school alot.

    • oldcoyote

      I am old enough to remember what never happened.

    • Leonard

      You probably don’t believe Jesus died for our sins and arose on the third day either then.

    • oldcoyote

      I know the jews hate Him with a passion!

    • Leonard

      A small minority maybe.Most Jews are believers now.

    • Leonard

      Where’s your proof?

    • Leonard

      You are an idiot Liberal.

    • Ulysse Grémillon

      Yeah, but Iran has never said anything about annihilating Israel. That’s pure spin. Do some reading about what Ahmadinejad actually said about Israel and its current regime.

    • raynbene

      Apparently you don’t listen to those ongoing statements from Ahmadinejad abiout Israel being a ‘cancerous tumor’, that must be ‘removed by force’, or that Israel has no right to exist, or so many other statements he and other so-called leaders of hamas, hezbollah, and even Khamenei have made in the last few years they have been in power. Do you really think Israel is a threat and not Iran ? Don’t answer – we know what you will say.

    • Leonard

      That’s just false.I’ve heard him say it on the news.

    • oldcoyote

      RIGHT ON. But don’t expect any jew to believe the truth. Everything they do is based on propaganda and lies.

  • 57girl

    To answer the question asked in the headline, If I were a betting woman, I’d go with Propaganda. Our Government has been itching to go to war with Iran for years. All the have to do is dupe the people into backing them up. Personally, I think we should should cut foreign aid off and remove our troops from ALL Nations. Israel is well armed with nukes. Let them fight their own battles and solve their own problems. In the meantime, we have plenty of our own problems to deal with, most of which are derived from sticking our nose where it doesn’t belong. I’m still baffled as to why we’ve not brought our troops home and put them on our own borders.

    • Sue

      Spot on!

    • oldcoyote

      Ahmedonjahd stated very clear they did NOT want nuclear weapons and the lying jews took it out of context, twisted what he said and spread their lying propaganda worldwide. Iran is legal in what they are doing. They have abided to everything required. Israhell is the one that’s illegal with no inspections and they refuse to sign the NPT. Not that the lying swine would honor it anyway.

  • sandraleesmith46

    The Iranians already HAVE the delivery system, and the launch sites there to hit Israel as well as in Venezuela to hit at least the southern states HERE; and at least one CIA agent’s report claims they NOW have enough to build 6 nukes; IF they also have the system to actually explode them, they could launch any time! If not, it won’t take them long to work that bit out!

    • Sue

      And the Israelis already have nukes. They can and do threaten with them. Nuclear free Middle East starting with Israel. How’s that? No more taxpayer dollars in the region either. An even hand in the middle east!

    • siquijorisland

      Who are we to forget India and Pakistan are nuclear powers.
      Things are much more complex than you simplistic solution.
      The middle east is a clear and present danger to the U. S. A..
      An attack on a consulate is an attack on American soil.
      Same as pearl Harbor or 9/11.

    • sandraleesmith46

      Nuke free is unrealistic; the Israelis have proven they have the sense of responsibility to handle nukes wisely, the Iranians have proven they don’t have the wisdom or accountability to handle fire crackers safely, much less nukes, but that genie won’t go back into the bottle now. As for taxpayer monies, none should ever have gone there, or anywhere else for that matter, and wouldn’t if our Founding Fathers’ ways had been heeded and followed!

    • Ulysse Grémillon

      The Israelis have also proven that they have the sense of responsibility to use white phosphorus bombs on civilians…
      You claim that Iran could or would attack Israel and the US. Now really, would that make sense? Explain what reason they might have for doing it. If there were any reason, it would be the US’s overthrow of their legitimate government in 1953, opening the way for 26 years of waste and tyranny and torture and murder by the US’s puppet, the Shah. The regime now in place in Iran took power as a reaction to those 26 years, and the US has been trying to undermine it ever since – except during the brief period when the Reagan administration colluded with it. The leaders of Iran would be justified in wanting to arm themselves with the same weapons the US and Israel have – all the more since the US and Israel have already committed acts of war against Iran.
      Yet as has been repeated here several times, ma petite chérie, the leaders of Iran would be insane to even contemplate any act of aggression against the US or its ally Israel.
      As for your “CIA agent’s report,” do you really expect us to consider the CIA any sort of objective source? The CIA, in its maiden days, was behind the original overthrow of Iran’s democratically elected secular government in 1953. So please go an peddle your pretty tale elsewhere, ma petite cocotte.

    • sandraleesmith46

      i DON’T consider the continual ravings of a madman evidence of responsibility, and I’m NOT your petite cherie or cocotte! As for events in 1953, where were you that year? I remember it, as a matter of fact. and was probably more aware of events outside my homeland than most because my father was flying into that region fairly regularly, except when the routes were closed down due to hazards too great for the passengers, crews and planes to be safe to do so. I don’t doubt our CIA was involved, and likely had encouraged the change of leadership, but that doesn’t alter the fact that Ahmadinajab is simply not stable enougph to handle nukes without seeking to attack and murder people without provocation! Hating the US and Israel, although its very likely he doesn’t really know the roots of that hatred either, is one thing; desiring to start war to obliterate those nations is quite another. Whether or not Israel used phosphorous bombs, I don’t know, I wasn’t there to see, but if they did, then I’d have to know what the Palestinians dropped on them to provoke that! Unless you were there to SEE that, you can’t say with any degree of certainty either. But I do believe my friend in Kuwait, and he fears Ahmadinajab with a bomb as much as I do! No, he’s not an American, and he has no love for Israel either, as don’t the Saudis who ALSO don’t want him to have a nuke; now there must be a sound reason for that too. So maybe you need to re-evaluate your sources before you make snap judgments about my reasoning.