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Social Security Responds To Bulk Ammo Purchase & Makes Case For Armed Citizens


Social-Security-Administration-To-Purchase-174-Thousand-Rounds-Of-Hollow-Point-BulletsIn light of recent articles about ammunition purchases by the Department of Homeland Security and other federal agencies, including the Social Security Administration’s own purchase of 174,000 .357 Sig 125 grain hollow point bullets, the SSA decided to come forward with an explanation for why they were purchasing the ammunition.

The SSA’s Office of the Inspector General addressed the solicitation in a blog post on the agency’s website with the title, “Beyond the Numbers“:

As we said in a recent post, our office has criminal investigators, or special agents, who are responsible for investigating violations of the laws that govern SSA’s programs. Currently, about 295 special agents and supervisory special agents work in 66 offices across the United States. These investigators have full law enforcement authority, including executing search warrants and making arrests.

Our investigators are similar to your State or local police officers. They use traditional investigative techniques, and they are armed when on official duty.

Media reports expressed concerns over the type of ammunition ordered. In fact, this type of ammunition is standard issue for many law enforcement agencies. OIG’s special agents use this ammunition during their mandatory quarterly firearms qualifications and other training sessions, to ensure agent and public safety. Additionally, the ammunition our agents use is the same type used at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center.

Our special agents need to be armed and trained appropriately. They not only investigate allegations of Social Security fraud, but they also are called to respond to threats against Social Security offices, employees, and customers.

The blog went on to say that they do have a high regard for employee and visitor safety:

As we explained in another post, SSA is processing more applications than ever, which means more traffic in SSA offices. Employee and visitor safety is the highest priority for OIG, which, together with the Federal Protective Services and local law enforcement, has jurisdiction over SSA workplaces.

So they did explain this without mentioning anything about qualifying, which some of my readers pointed out that they do annually and of this I have no doubt. Thus I posted that information on the preceding articles.

However, what I want to note from this is simply that the federal government is in effect making the case for citizens to be armed.

Our federal government assumes they will be dealing with people with guns, both at homes they may go to and at the offices in which they work. Why should American citizens not assume the same thing? Why should we not have the mindset that anyone we come in contact with just might be someone who is bad and intends to do us harm? I am one that does not trust government because they have demonstrated how untrustworthy they are.

I’ll accept their explanation with extreme caution, but I’ll also do likewise and purchase bulk ammunition as I am able. It’s just the right thing to do. After all I want my family, visitors, and home safe and secure. Thanks Social Security for making a great argument for the Second Amendment.



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  • Ken

    Another reason for buying up all the ammo is to keep it out of the hands of the regular armed Americans. A gun is not of any use without the ammo. Maybe they are just trying to get it all out of circulation. Backdoor confiscation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/leprecaun14456 Robert Myles

    The ‘standard ammo for target and qualifying is a jacketed bullet as this reduces lead dust in the air etc and lead into the soil,drinkging water etc. Theere is only one reason for all the Sudden purchases of bulk ammunition in hollow point and that is to use it on us if we stand up and oppose this flagrantly illegal government. The stard ammo for our armed forces is a nato round and full metal jacket. The use of hollow point in war was banned by some socalled international agreement. Just as congress is an inconvenience to Obama so is the ban on hollow points. He has already set in place an extreme martial law act thru Executive Order along with 900 and counting other Executive orders we have never been informed of. Why is our Military asking the soldiers under them if they would fire upon fellow American’s if called to do so. Obama wants that information so he can lockdown any soldiers who oppose this and arm with hollow points those that agree with this totally unconstitutional use of our Armed forces. The time to Arm and buy as much ammo and reloading supplies has indeed come. We will be at a extreme disadvantage as the government will have armor, body armor and the bluehats ogf the UN that want nothing better than in invade America.

  • HornyGoat

    Strange! Article mentions .357 Sig ammo, shows a picture of .45 calibre, but feds carry Glock 22 .40 cal.

    • HornyGoat

      BTW: dept have officers shoot old duty issue ammo to qualify, then reissue new identical ammo. Lawsuits-imagine shooting a mope with ball ammo, bullet goes thru mope, thru drywall & into another uninvolved mope before stopping in another uninvolved mope. Officers are qualified with issued ammo.

  • nanci

    This is a grossly misleading statement by Obama’s SS agency. They’re saying what he wants them to say to take the heat off the real intention of building and arming his people. This re-supplying is the 2nd time in 3 years this much ammunition has been purchased for no good reason. With only weeks to go before the election, why now?

    It’s not only just the economy, stupid, it’s the intentional placing of the corrupt, anti American gang members in strategic positions in government to allow Obama to do his will, He has effectively ignored, usurped, circumvented and distorted the US Constitution and Rule of law for his own political power gain.

    His goal is to bring down America’s economy and culture. He is the most lawless anti American president in our history. He is also the most believable LIAR in our history.

    “Complacency is the friend of your enemy.” – Thomas Jefferson.

  • conworld

    The problem with the explanation is that it is totally unclear why, in the first place, SS needs armed agents when they have access to local police and probably the FBI. Social security fraud does not strike me as a dangerous assignment. In those cases where it might be, you have federal marshals, FBI, local law enforcement, etc. Protection of personnel and offices should be undertaken by local police, just like the neighborhood bodega. This and other stories of federal agencies loading up on ammunition are, taken as a whole, very ominous.

  • Mad Mike

    Remember Obama’s bost that he will create his own, personal army? An army as well armed as our U.S. Military! Obama and our federal government, (he now has under his personal control), have only one reason to create a massive standing internal army. The same reason Hitler created his “Brown Shirts and S.S. Murderers”! Supression of the population and creation of a dictatorship! Obama is drawing a loop of “piano wire” around americas civilian population! He is preparing to murder millions of americans with his own “army”. It is time to arrest all of these communist tratiors before they begin rounding up and murdering our people like Hitler did. Like Obama said: “Elections have consequences”! These are ours…

  • nanci

    Lt. John Cabot of the LAPD says that the LAPD has over 10,000 officers. It would take all officers training twice a week for over 2 years to expend that much ammunition. He feels that there is something amiss with the SS statement. Besides, since when is the Obama admin so concerned with national security in the light of leaked security secrets, non enforcement of the immigration laws and using his exec privilege to protect Holder’s 6.

  • Brenda

    Anyone going to the SSA office will first encounter an armed guard. And since when is the assumption of citizens packing heat a valid reason for armed employees? Furthermore, where are the stats on investigators going into homes to arrest SS receipents? When an investigator from Child Protective Services enters a home to take a child, they do so with a police officer. Even the IRS uses the FBI and local police, not IRS employees.
    Give me a breaki. There is no justification just smoke and mirrors. Most SSA are accountants or rule book employees. The “danger” is questionable.

  • giant33

    Go into any SS office and count how many Americans then count the others and you’ll know why its broken.As far as their agents I’ve never read about one making an arrest or being in a shoot out. I’am sure theirs a need for their agents, I’am not sure for what. This ammo thing is scary.

  • Warren

    I was the director over a 3 county regional police academy in Texas for 36 years and I know hundreds of police officers, and I have “never known” any agency to practice with expensive hollow point bullets. They always use less expensive practice ammo. It is appropriate to carry hollow points on duty and most officers do, but it is not necessary to practice with them because using hollow points to practice with is much too expensive. Sounds to me like this is just another example of the Govt spending beyond their means, if in fact they are using them for practice. Go online and check out prices for practice ammo vs hollow points.

  • doug63

    NOTE: most of this kind of ammo costs anywhere from 50 cents to a dollar+ per bullet (round)

    • mtsnj

      and when your not conscious of who is paying for it the vendor jacks up the price like crazy

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thomas-McAuliffe/100000061941685 Thomas McAuliffe

    i feel we the people should all be armed to the hilt as the government is quickly becoming the enemy rather than the provider and they ere not to be trusted especially with obama at the helm traitors, criminals and liars are running the country and something has to be done to re-c;aim our country from the traitors and thieves

  • determented

    With this communist liar sitting in the whitehouse and his association with trerroists and communists such as his top advisor Valerie Jarrett and his communist czarsyou better prepare yourselves for the Nov. uprising.

  • bribozo19

    ummm hollow points?really?, the ones that explode on impact? why?, because they are full of crap. Go into a social security office and ask to see their rounds of ammo, I can bet there won’t be hollow points ther. This is a smokescreen for the justification of the purchase and as usual with this admin. just another tall tale. The rounds are going to the “para”military that will be used to inforce martial law prior to our election,which really shows our dictators(oops) presidents insecurity about losing his power.If you don’t have a license to carry,get one.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/L2JFTYWFUXK6R7YC65XGZBLEHY Josh T

    I can’t speek for the law inforcment comunity but in the U.S army we practice with the same bulits we go to war with. Every time you go to quilfy you get 40 rounds to quilfiy with and 18 to zero your rifle with. Granted some people use 3 times that many because they can’t shoot and because we only quilfy 1-2 times a year you get a little out of practice. For this reason I have taken to bying my own M-4 that is exactly like my service rifle except that it has a 16in barle insted of the 14in. You can buy military m855 ammo on the us civilyan market so I do.
    I don’t want to be the guy that can’t hit the bad guys because I am out of practice.

  • GRAMPA

    Like all government agencies they will have trouble securing this ammo. When it is stolen they will try to blame the gun nuts and want to pass a law restricting ammo. Any time people qualify on a gun range the range supply’s the ammo. This type of round is meant to do maximum damage to flesh. It is also more expensive than standard jacket rounds. Another example of government waste.
    At a gun range all rounds must be accounted for. If you are required to fire 100 rounds you turn in the empty shell cases to certify your practice. If these are issued to the agents they will be used for only one thing, to kill. According to the numbers that’s roughly 3.500 rounds per agent. That’s a lot of practice. Because you are to certify your skills with your own gun you would ware it out firing that many rounds thru it. Even regular law enforcement is certified twice a year at roughly 100 rounds, That’s enough for 17.5 years. This is not good practice for gun powder becomes unstable. Now that I have thoroughly debunked your reason for the ammo. What is your real reason? We will be watching and demanding accounting of this ammo.
    God bless America.
    (GRAMPA)

  • WASP

    The incompetent, corrupt, oppressive feral gummint should never be given those powers. Not any of them, including the FBI, Homeland Stupidity, IRS, DEA, ATF. Lots of Nazis tend to gravitate to those agencies, and the Higher-up Nazis are more than happy to hire them if they can demonstrate sufficient disregard for citizen’s constitutional rights. They want brainless, jack-booted storm troopers who “just follow orders”. I don’t really object to capital punishment, just to giving tyrants the power to kill citizens. They can’t handle it. We know they screw up everything they stick their dirty fingers into.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4JGF357Q233Q2A6MTTQGBKKEEQ Scott M

    Did I read somewhere that Social Security Administration has paid out over $18MILLION to dead people??? oh. never mind., probably used to pay for their democrat votes.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4JGF357Q233Q2A6MTTQGBKKEEQ Scott M

    almost 600 rounds per agent. that’s a LOT of practicing!!!. Also, last time I looked, hollow points are not used for practice because of cost. I am a licensed armed guard with a .40 cal semi-automatic. I qualify 2 times a year, each with 50 rounds of full metal jacket. I don’t believe the SS “explanation”. I am curious as to the last order placed by SS, and NOAA— when and how much?? It just seems too much of a coincidence that major names in the Democratic Party have opted out of the DNConvention. Shortly after that we find large order of riot gear for “potential” civil disturbance at DNC and GOP conventions. Hmm. premonition? prediction? Plan to be executed? Shall we speculate that perhaps the OWS rabble will be paid to start disturbances. There will be armed plants in the OWS group that will discharge weapons and then the FEDS (not local police, nor local state police, nor national guard), specially picked and assigned by the WH Manchurian’s crew will respond to leave a large number of dead so that the man occupying the white house with the quick executive order pern can resurface the declaration of national emergency and establish martial law. Don’t laugh. It has been done before in other countries. The plot thickens!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6MA7DQUAVE3RVJUKOBIXVVQ4PI Michael

    A member of my TEA Party and I have talked several times about her nephew who is active duty Air Force. His squadron, although they are not in a direct combat MOS or job, are preparing for mass gun confiscations, by going door to door as they did during Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. This is current training, as of August 2012. He also says that the other branches of the military are receiving the same training, as members of other branches were there. All this does, in my opinion, is strengthen my distrust for the govt, any branch of it, and anything they say. Believe whatever you want, it’s up to you. But we all need to be finding out everything we possibly can about this and putting the word out. Something wicked this way comes.

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