RNC Credentials Committee – “Rules? There Are NO Rules!”


20120825-223907.jpgRemember when the Red Queen asked in Alice in Wonderland, “How would you like to have your head hacked off?” That essentially was what was asked of liberty delegates from Maine, Oklahoma and Oregon yesterday, when the Credentials Committee met to decide the fate of these states’ delegations. Maine, whose delegation had been elected according to the rules, and yet had their status challenged; and Oklahoma and Oregon, who were challenging the complete disregard of rules at their conventions and were challenging the delegations that had been credentialed.

The challenge to Maine’s delegation was based on the assertion that delegates were picked and chosen, rather than voted on, and that floor and ballot security were lax. This was because ballots were initially printed on blue paper, and a Romney supporter handed them out early against instructions. When that occurred, Maine’s Executive Board agreed that the integrity of the vote was harmed, and those ballots were destroyed. New ones were printed on pink paper and used. Some members of two counties decided not to vote again, or refused, but 1,800 votes were cast.

In arguments for the liberty delegates whose status was challenged, their attorneys remarked,

“You will hear there was chaos, and issues in the convention. Most of you have been to conventions where things happened that weren’t planned, but at this convention, there were no objections to the way the vote was taken. That entire process was observed by the Chairman and the Executive Committee’s attorneys. The margins were not close, yet people who won elections by hundreds of votes are to be replaced by people who lost by hundreds of votes. Not a single objection was raised at the convention to the change of ballots or the votes. The RNC Committee’s report has ignored all those votes and says they don’t matter. You judge today if the will of those people matter – do their votes matter? Every step at that contention was done to insure integrity, every step was observed by both camps. Not a single complaint was made about the voting trail, from ballot distribution to voting, every step of that process was watched. The ballot count was supervised by both camps. When the results were input into a data base, that was observed by attorneys of each campaign. 2,300 votes were cast for Convention Chair, and 1,800 cast for delegates, and there was not a single complaint. But some people didn’t like that. Some didn’t want to recognize those elected. Sometimes you have to lose with grace, but that didn’t happen in Maine.”

Mike Rothfeld, delegate from Virginia supported, “What you will see is a lot of anecdotal evidence, but not one bit of fact. Without facts, that delegation should be seated. You should not have a situation where a committee of nine (RNC Contest Committee) can undo the will of over 2,000 Maine republicans. I wouldn’t want nine people from other states telling me who my Virginia delegation should be. If the RNC deprives half of that delegation to represent their electors, than that’s just wrong. You’ve usurped the will of over 2,000 people who put on that convention; two days, money, blood sweat and tears. You should not be able to go to a select group of people and say, “Fix it, ignore that election. That’s fundamentally unfair. 2700 people came and voted for a Chair of the convention. That (race) was highly contested and won by only four votes. It wasn’t challenged and the convention proceeded to run. The woman who ran credentials, now objects to it. New, young people, came into the party and if you disenfranchise them, even to where the Governor of the State says he won’t attend the convention if they’re not seated, you will do irreparable damage to the party, and its nominee, Mitt Romney. Take a step back from these complexities, 2700 people voted for the people whom you want to disenfranchise.”

But the Contest Committee did not see problems with credentials, ballots and floor security. They did not recognize that there was a quorum, even though that wasn’t challenged at the convention. They said they had irrefutable evidence that the convention was flooded with people who had no right to be there.

While the challenge to Maine’s delegation was based on problems only raised after the fact, it was evident that once the reality set-in that Maine’s delegation belonged to Ron Paul, that a case of sour grapes bubbled up, and the objection was filed.

Drew Ivers, delegate from Iowa, passionately stated, “Talk about credibility – the biggest glaring inconsistency is in the election of the Governer Paul LePage and his wife, Ann. They were elected by the same body that elected all the other delegates and alternates. So, if there’s no objection by the Committee on Contests or the RNC to say they were duly elected, then the rest of the body would also have to be ruled duly elected. This is the crux of the debate.”

There was also the issue that if Maine was to lose part of its delegation, who had the right to choose who would replace them? The situation in Nevada was referenced when in 2008, their delegate election was illegally adjourned, and delegates appointed, instead of being voted upon. State Chairman, Sue Lowden, was reprimanded by the RNC for her actions, but her appointed delegates were still seated. The RNC essentially said, “The way you did this broke the rules, but since you’re here at the convention, go get credentialed and seated anyway and we’ll forget about the votes sitting in those ballot boxes that were never counted.”

In the case of Maine, rules were just for others, and the RNC decided that delegates could be appointed. Maine was not even allowed to have its five delegates who weren’t challenged, elect the replaced delegates, as they were not considered legally elected. The Contest Committee picked new delegates, some of whom didn’t even receive a hundred votes in an election where 1,800 voted.

Former Maine State Representative Stavros Mendes made his own very personal plea,

“Ever since I was a little boy I’ve been participating. First by holding up signs for candidates. Then in 1992, I ran for office. In 1994 I campaigned in Massachusetts for Romney. I’ve been to many of these conventions, and this was the first one where we had to show ID; it was the strictest I’ve been to ever. Charlie Webster, the Temporary Chair, did give a Credentials Report before the vote for Chair (which was accepted). There was no doubt, not even from the governor’s legal counsel – no one in Maine doubted the credentials. Ron Paul had overwhelming numbers, and they won. What precedent do we set today if we overturn this election? (In the future) Do we want every delegation challenged, because that’s what precedent you are setting? That’s going to be the new policy if your candidate is behind at these state conventions. We believe in the sanctity of the vote. Erin Day spent school funds to come here, along with 20 other young supporters. You’re going to send her home telling her she’s a cheater and a fraud, because that’s what’s going to be said about her in Maine. (Delegates) Charlie Summers, US Senate candidate, and the Governor and his wife aren’t coming if this happens. Charlie’s one of your committee picks, and he’s not coming. Don’t do this to my Governor and friends!”

The guest gallery of the meeting was filled with supporters of Maine’s liberty delegation, and they applauded Mendros, but the members of the Credentials Committee were mostly silent. It was obvious from their reception of the arguments for the elected delegates that they weren’t getting the message, and the few liberty members of the Committee weren’t anywhere close to a majority.

The motion to unseat most of Maine’s delegates was called, and 20 elected members of Maine’s delegation were replaced with individuals chosen by the Republican National Committee.

Cries of, “Shame, shame!” erupted from the gallery, and those offenders of decorum were quickly removed from the room by security. I had joined in the cries, and it was only through the intercession of Mike Rothfeld with security, that I was able to stay. This vote cast a dismal pall on the proceedings as members broke for lunch. The two hours spent on Maine had gone by in an instant, and there were still the fates of Oklahoma and Oregon in the balance.

Later, Governor Paul LePage responded to the ruling,

“I have decided to not attend the 2012 Republican National Convention… I made it clear, when the challenge was issued, that I felt the Maine Delegates selected at the Maine Convention should be seated in Tampa. It is unfortunate that not all of these Delegates will be seated.”

Texas At-Large Delegate, Troy Christensen, warned,

“More disturbing is that the RNC will name replacement delegates, which I think violates the RNC rule that each state gets to choose its delegates.”

The elected Delegation Chair for Maine, Brent Tweed, expressed his own disappointment, “Essentially, they have replaced half of Maine’s duly elected delegates with those of their own choosing. Maine’s delegates should be elected by Mainers. Instead, they are being appointed by nine RNC members from states like California, Mississippi, Washington, Kentucky and Arkansas. For a party that claims to respect the rights of states and individuals, the Republican Party should respect the right of Maine to select its own representatives.”

Oklahoma

Maine and Oregon were represented by attorneys brought in by the Ron Paul campaign. In Oklahoma’s case, they were represented pro se, and Michael Stopp opened their argument that delegates had not been elected legally, which was the inverse of Maine’s delegation which was challenged, even though they had been legally elected. Stopp charged that the Oklahoma Executive Committee, “Broke rules to stop the Ron Paul people. The Chair conducted fraudulent election for At-Large Delegates. When the Executive Committee was challenged, they responded that rules were broken because of time constraints. But, the time problems were due to the E-board causing them. Credentials were never approved by the body. They were never valid, so then votes can’t be valid. Rule 18 requires a roll call vote (paper ballot) to fill At-large Delegates and Alternate slots. All votes were questionable. We must follow rules to build trust. I attended West Point, and the most important lesson I learned was in the honor code – A cadet must not lie cheat or steal.”

In Maine’s case, credentials at their convention were never challenged. In Oklahoma’s case the credentials were challenged from the very beginning. Earlier, delegate Adam Bates told me, “They were trying to pack the convention as delegates checking into the convention were not asked to show ID to collect their badges. Aside from the obvious potential for manipulation in such a loose credentialing process, it struck many of us as odd that a party hell-bent on pushing voter ID laws couldn’t be bothered to ID voters at its own convention.”

“After the reading of the credentials report, State Vice-Chair Pam Pollard admitted that the count was inaccurate and that there were some 22 delegates that needed to be added due to some confusion at the county level,” he continued. “When the new counts were announced, more than 200 delegates had been added. Points of order were made regarding this. They were dismissed. No motion was ever made to properly amend the credentials report and no vote were ever taken accepting the final report. As a result, those delegates should have never been seated.”

“The party leaders opted to move on without a proper vote on, or acceptance of the credentials.” Bates said. “Ultimately, the permanent roll of the convention was not certified until roughly 6pm. But we didn’t even get into the credentials problem when we filed our challenge with the RNC. State Party Rule 18D, which says that the votes for At-Large Delegates and Alternates have to be roll-call votes, a ballot, or written at the state convention. Instead, they did a voice vote, that the E-committee said they won. We protested and asked for a standing vote, which they won again as all their guests and others stood. The written vote never happened, and the E-committee acknowledged that it was required, but that their vote still satisfied convention rules. The convention rules superceded state party rules. Our challenge was based on the fact that we had an improperly elected slate that shouldn’t be seated. But the E-committee said they would have been elected anyway, even if a paper ballot had been properly used.”

Oklahoma’s Executive Board’s attorney’s argued that the standing vote was overwhelmingly in their favor, 75% to 25%, and that a roll call vote would not have changed the outcome. Rule 18D wasn’t mentioned.

Stopp countered that, “We have video, that the opposition’s number is inaccurate. Even with audio embellishment it couldn’t look like 75% to 25%. Was there not enough emphasis or importance to have a paper ballot for the delegate vote?”

Almost every person in the Credentials Committee agreed that Oklahoma’s republican party did not have to obey its own State Rules for balloting, and voted to seat the delegates.

Oregon

“She flies with her own wings” is Oregon’s state motto, and in the case of rules, they also flew out the window. Curiously, in Oregon, their state convention is held simultaneously, in five different locations, reflecting their Congressional Districts.

Former gubernatorial candidate and State Chair Allen Alley originally wrote an agenda for their state convention listing adjournment at 4pm. Then, thinking that 5pm would be a more realistic, added an hour. (For those of you who have attended State Conventions, that is a naively optimistic end time, as many conventions are scheduled for a entire weekend. At our 2012 Nevada State Convention, business didn’t conclude Saturday till almost midnight, and we still met for most of Sunday when we adjourned.).

With five locations in Oregon having meetings, they all ended at different times. One adjourned at 5pm without debate, and the delegates went home. Two chose to work past 5pm, and made motions carried by 2/3rds majorities, to continue to work on the business of electing At-Large and Alternate Delegates. But in the remaining two, the motions failed. In these last two districts, delegates were picked from totally new slates.

That’s where rules came into play. Oregon’s Party Rules state that they can fill vacancies, but only if that vacancy occurs after elections have taken place. It was argued that no elections took place, because they happened after 5pm. The vacancy can’t occur if the election never happened. Oregon’s Executive Committee voted among themselves which delegates would get elected, rather than the a vote by the convention delegates.

Oregon’s delegation challenge asked, “What are conventions actually for? Were the three conventions actually adjourned? Agendas aren’t fixed, even when adopted. Business carries over all the time. People spend their money, take their time to attend these conventions, and is this party going to ignore that? Let the votes of the people at that convention be counted, let their votes stand.”

The delegates at the conventions where the motion to adjourn had failed, continued their conventions in parking lots after the doors were closed. To them, the 5pm adjournment on the agenda was just a suggestion and nothing more. They elected delegates according to party rules and those delegates weren’t recognized. They charged, “When they weren’t getting the results they wanted (their delegates elected), the email went out (to the five locations) to shut them (the conventions) down.”

“No motion is necessary when an hour is set to adjourn.” asserted Alley, “ It would require a 2/3rds vote to extend the end time prior to 5pm. Twentyfive Alternate Delegate positions were vacant after adjournment. The E-committee is responsible for filling these positions. It’s fully compliant with Oregon law, Standing Rule 11-3.”

It was very fortunate when Mike Rothfeld of Virginia was elected to the Credentials Committee. Once again he went to bat for his fellow liberty delegates. “A Chair put together a meeting incompetently, he extended it a mere one hour, knowing that if he ran out of time, he could run out the clock, knowing that he and his friends could appoint their friends. It is wrong to reward that behavior. If you won’t seat the elected delegates, then throw a pox on both houses and let us (the Credentials Committee) elect the delegates.”

It was obvious to only a handful of Credentials Committee members, that Oregon’s State Republican Convention had been poorly planned. Besides the unrealistic time set to adjourn, how could you have five different sites deciding to adjourn or not adjourn? Why were the legally done elections not recognized? When those delegates would not close their conventions as they still had business to do, shouldn’t they have been congratulated for persevering? How could Oregon’s E-Committee elect delegates on their own, when the rules only allowed for that situation in the case of vacancies – vacancies when elected delegates left their positions?

In spite of that, Oregon’s selected delegates remained in place by an almost unanimous vote.

The mood in the gallery was somber as the Credentials Committee adjourned. Some of the members had slept through the proceedings. Others, played games on their phones and checked e-mails. The half dozen members who took the mic to support the liberty delegates felt defeated. But, the loss was the Republican party’s. The new blood that has come into the GOP from its infusion of Ron Paul supporters is sorely needed. The more the GOP tries to thwart them in their attempts to shape candidates and policy, the more determined they become. The decisions on Maine, Oklahoma and Oregon will be remembered; and as liberty supporters in Nevada learned from 2008, they were well-prepared, when this year they successfully elected a delegation predominantly of their own, as well as the National Committeeman and Committeewoman.



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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Caplinger/1530802200 Mark Caplinger

    It’s pretty simple.. the neocon “establishment” wants nothing to do with Ron. They know he is a threat to their fake war on “terrorism”and his supporters would rather die than vote for Romney(aka Obama).

  • ARMYOF69

    I just wish that Romney had accepted Dr. Ron Paul as a real American Patriot., and had him up on stage with him. THAT…would undoubtedly have brought Romney many millions more on board to vote for him. BUT…Romney and the GOP are scared shotless of Ron Paul. He still has a chance to do that in Tampa.

    • don

      What the hell is this ron paul garbage. His punks have already started to interfere with the Republican convention program. Ron paul is no better than ross perrot in promoting noise, confusion, and instability.

  • http://www.facebook.com/skyghost1 David Hudson

    Unless a lot changes I sure would support a third party. Obama is hoping to turn us communist, and that he does not deny. Romeny is a good man. Being Mormon, I know about the Church and the real way it is operated. However, Romeny is not well known and is not a great speaker. His morals are good but he is a right leaning moderate and I am a conservative. I favor the Tea Party and their candidates. I believe they could raise the money they need and take on either party. Both parties are crap and it is always voting for the lesser of the two evils.

  • John

    I normally vote close to a straight ticket. But, I will not vote for the democrat Romney. I was born and reared a Republican and its a sad day seeing National braking our own rules. Its time to replace all of them.

  • Mike_Sr

    Every man’s vote matters. But, Ron Paul supporters are just as narrow and bore-sighted as their candidate. Unable to see the bigger more pressing issues, in context they will insist on detractig from the proceeding by attempting to nominte a loose canon.
    IF Ron Paul’s message had been mainstream he would have been much more of a contender.
    He is *not* mainstream. And, niether are his delegates.

  • Marie

    You just knew after what they did to Akin, it was going down hill from there. We will be lucky to hold this together and beat Obama. The signs are not looking good.

  • John Brashear

    we dont need another divided vote, like we had when Ross upset the vote, we cannot have a 3rd party in the US, if the people in the republican part arent far enough to the right, fix it…not begin another party, make THEM leave, the party is US, not them….

    • Sinbad

      Maybe you should have told that to Romney and the GOP, but it is too late for that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniela-Todescu/100002019930047 Daniela Todescu

    iNTERESTING MR OBAMA AND FULGENCIO BATISTA CREDENTIALS! BOTH SUPPLYED BY THE CEZARS OF THE HOOVER DAMM IN THE VERY CREME DE LA CREME OF THE LAS VEGAS STRIP.. ONE DO NOT HAVE THE LEGALITY OF THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND THE 2ND THE NAME ITSELF! MAN CAN BUY EVERYTHING BUT NOT THE KNOW HOW ABOUT HOW TO RULE A COUNTRY WITHOUT SUCK IT ALL THE WEALTH IT COULD PROVIDE BY *DON*T STOP UNTIL GET ENOUGH , POLITICAL CLASS SEE LGBT AND OTHER RARE ” PRIORITIES!

    THE HOOVER ASWAN AND VIDRARU DAMM CLASS SPEACK THE RED LINE OF THE WORLD HEADING PAN ARABIAN AND THE COMMUNISM SUPPLY BY LONDON HEADET COMMUNIST AND *LABOUR PARTY* CENTURY OF LEADERSHIP WITH THE ALPHA PHI ALPHA BLACK BRAIN TRUST AT WASHINGTON SINCE MARY MC LEOD AND THE KENNEDY ROOSEVELT RADIO KEITH RISE UP THE WORLD TYRANS BY RADIO SPEECHES, ROOSEVELT FIRECHARTS THE MUSSOLINI, HITLER, MAO TSE MODUS OPERANDI THISSAME TOOL USED WITH THE WRONG PUPRPOSES AND THE DEMAGOGIC NOBLE APPRAISED AT LEAST DEAD TREATY COVENANTER INSTEAD THE HUMAN RIGHTS AS GOD DEMAND US NOT THE EMANCIPATED OR THE U.N. CHARTS !

    WHEN GOOD WORK IS NOT ANYMORE A CREDENTIAL TO BE RESPECTESD BUT THE COCO JAMBO POLITICS THAN THE FOLLOWING VIDEO PROVE TO ME THE TRUTH OF THE MR TRUMP INSIGHTS COINED IN HIS BOOK: *THE AMERICA WE DESEARVE! SINCE 2005!*

    In a move certain to fuel
    the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans
    for Freedom of Information” has released copies of President Obama’s college
    transcripts from Occidental
    College …

    The transcript indicates
    that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign
    student from Indonesia
    while an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College
    in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior
    Court of California
    . The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and
    was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation
    Scholarship program. To qualify for this scholarship, a student must claim
    foreign citizenship. This document provides the smoking gun
    that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking – that he is NOT a
    natural-born citizen of the United States
    – necessary to be President of these United States. Along with the
    evidence that he was first born in Kenya
    , here we see that there is no record of him ever applying for US
    citizenship..

    Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has
    released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This
    study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in
    the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block
    disclosure of any of his personal records.

    Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still on-going
    but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder.
    Mr. Holder has refused comment on this matter.

    LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS – THE MEDIA WON’T!

    http://socialismisnottheanswer.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/is-this-obamas-birth-certificate-from-mombasa-kenya/#comment-3789

    via-http://www.rense.com/general92/birthcert.htm

    mR BATISTA FEMININE VERSION WE HAVE IT IN CUGIR ALSO! Batista was born in Banes, Cuba in 1901, to Belisario Batista Palermo[11] and Carmela Zaldívar González, who had fought in the Cuban War of Independence.
    His mother named him Rubén and gave him her last name, Zaldívar. His
    father did not want to register him as a Batista. In the registration
    records of the Banes courthouse he was legally Rubén Zaldívar until
    1939, when, as Fulgencio Batista, he became a presidential candidate and
    it was discovered that this name did not exist. Some have alleged that a
    judge was bribed 15,000 Cuban pesos (about the same amount in U.S.
    dollars at the time) to fix the discrepancy, MR OBAMA ALSO , SOO THIS COMMUNIST FREE LOVE COMUNIST MANIFESTO AS FOR THE WORK THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY INCENTIVES IT WORKS! UNTIL THIS LEVEL!

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Trumps-Three-Generations-Empire/dp/0743210794

    OTHERS GET TEH SHORTCUT OF TERROR AND PRESIDENTIAL HONOURS QUESTIONING *CREDENTIALS!* HOW IS THIS FAIR POSSIBLE , DEAR REPUBLICANS ?

    Obama Roast Donald Trump! 2011 White House Correspondents Dinner

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIkxoq0agNo

    The America we desearve? IS THIS YOU?!

    • VINCERE

      Please go back to school, and take up English. Thank you.

  • citizenrights

    Once again those who are ignorant of the laws that have been past, to subtly remove our rights to liberty and freedom, making our country governed by a police state and enslave us all to a market, milking us like cows lead to the slaughter, when they are no longer use full. Are spinning and squeaking their deluded song out like the stat icky, of a skipping and broken record.
    It is good that a law enforcement official has come out publicly about the possible intrusion of the United Nations on American soil, in case of civil unrest.
    Our Country being a member of the United Nations are equal to all Nations that are members and cannot have a military force greater than that of the United Nations combined forces, of all member nations. Our Presidents and congress From George Bush Sr. has made sure this is so, in a number of resolutions and treaties and laws. Any member of the united nations that is in civil distress or disobedience to the body of the United Nations can have a exerted force of United Nations military personnel on there land to subdue and reorganize that country. Into compliance. As a police action! It is already occurring all over the world before all eyes. Who wish to see the truth. In the name of so called democracy? Police actions, demoralization of one nation after another destroying there sovereignty. Who is leading the Charge, our secretary of state.
    It will happen here if the United States of American Citizens do not wake up and stop it before it is to late. It will be done one State at a time, like a blitzkrieg. Multi national UN soldiers, marching in and across America. German, Russian, Chinese, Spanish, British, Canadian, Australia, and our own soldiers and many more.
    There are any number of things that can occur as a event to bring the United Nations in. Little do most know or realize. At one time it has already taken place. Setting the stage for the opportunity once again. The United Nations was called in during 9/11. George Bush Jr. paid the dues up to date and called in the UN., German AWAX and other UN soldiers patrolled our borders and did other functions. Since 9/11 much more has been done to bring in the United nations on a much different and larger scale.
    It would be Much easier for them to deal with the unrest if all guns were illegal under a treaty. That way if you resist in giving up your guns they just shoot you or place you in a slave camp till you die. These camps are already in place and have been for some time. There are already embedded United Nations directives here. Waiting for orders to come in for them to proceed with there mission and operations. There are many that are deluded who scoff at the possibility. Who have stuck there heads in the sand, There are many who are afraid to speak out because they can be ruined by one arm of the bureaucracy after another. There are those who believe this is the only way to solve the crime problem, and the corruption problem and bring peace by managing all through the state of communism, and there are those who are practicing religious believers in communism looking to the day that the United States of America is under their control completely.
    Beware to all who love this country and the rights we have and cherish under the United States of American Constitution. The day is coming closer for this to come about. Those in power who would enslave us all! Are beginning to fear it may be circumvented and stopped by those who know and see the truth. The new American Citizens resistance. Unorganized but awakening. The true American and foreign communists will not let it slip lightly into the past without a battle. Lets pray it is waged in the halls of the legislative processes and not on the streets of America.

    • don

      Continuing with obama will get you a police state. What do you think the drones flying over our cities, and all the ammunition the government has just ordered going to do. Get back to the Constitution with conservatives is the only way to clear the decks. Obama is already a marxist dictator. Look to his communist-marxist czars for your future.

  • citizenrights

    All liberty supporters and deligates need to carry the signe of the rattle snake to the convention. Do Not Tread On Me!

  • citizenrights

    The day of the politically correct and homogenized convention has come. Like discovery before a trial all must be realized and controlled, no suprises.

  • leefromok

    Republicans are becoming as bad as the democrats!
    If the republicans aren’t going to count my vote, what reason is there to be a republican?
    If I’m not supposed care about lying and cheating, why not join the party that’s really good at it instead of settling for second best?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=507180036 Corey A. Hendon

    Maine’s 4 Electors should make it clear that if Maine’s delegation takes no part in the nomination, they will not feel bound to the eventual nominee. John Anderson anyone???

  • Myron J. Poltroonian

    “Bachman-Palin Overdrive”, ‘n “[Whatever Year], the year of ‘Real Woman’ .”

    • Myron J. Poltroonian

      Whoops!, ‘Real Woman’, should, of course read, “Real Women”. Hmm, Murphy Never Sleeps”.