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Mass. RNC Decertifies 16 Ron Paul Delegates

It looks as if the Republican National Committee and the Mitt Romney campaign have officially taken a stand to oust Ron Paul supporters in Massachusetts. On August 10, the RNC’s ‘Committee on Contest’, chaired by Mike Duncan, released their recommendation to uphold “Romney for President, Inc.” decision to ignore the official caucus results. Instead they manipulated rules to decertify sixteen duly elected delegates. On August 14, the decertified delegates filed a Notice of Intent to Object. They are expecting an impartial hearing prior to Tampa.

It seems that Team Romney and the RNC do not care about unifying this block of voters at all because, at every turn, they have looked to undermine their organization and hard work and to shut their voice out of the convention. Last week it was Maine, this week it’s Massachusetts.

From the official release of the Massachusetts Liberty Caucus,

These sixteen duly elected Liberty delegates wanted to participate in the Republican National Convention to promote three platform issues, specifically Auditing the Federal Reserve Bank, Requiring Congressional Declaration of War for Funding Wars, and Protecting Internet Freedom.

This flagrant violation of the foundation of American Democracy has not killed the spirit of Liberty, but rather strengthened the resolve of activists to continue to reform the Massachusetts Republican Party, by actively supporting the removal of leadership that undermines fair elections, promotes cronyism, and whose policy positions clearly infringe on personal liberty. One example of the lack of liberty in the current state Republican Party Leadership is the recent endorsement by Republican State House Minority Leader Bradley Jones of ‘price controls’ on health care that every small government Republican should be opposed.

The tactical purge of duly elected delegates by the Romney Campaign’s top attorney, Benjamin Ginsberg, sends a clear message that grassroots activists are not welcome to participate in Romney’s Presidential Campaign. The grassroots activists that organized, worked hard, and campaigned to elect those decertified delegates can take a hint, and while committed to defeating President Barack Obama and his policies that promote poverty, not prosperity, moving forward, will pledge their time, talent, and treasure towards supporting local candidates.

These are people that had already purchased plane tickets and made travel arrangements to Tampa as official National delegates to the convention. Now they have been undercut by both the RNC and the Romney campaign.

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Sproing

I’m a Romney supporter but I don’t see the sense in alienating the Ron Paul supporters over seating at the convention. I don’t know if they feel as if Mr. Paul was going to pull some kind of 3rd party stunt at the convention but even so no matter how you slice it he wasn’t going to deny Romney the nomination in any event.
Mr. Paul had a couple of interesting ideas but on the whole his vision was much more some version of Utopian thinking that would never get traction with any slice of the American electorate big enough to play anything more then a spoiler role and possibly lead to the re-election of Obama.
- pearl87
  
  You clearly are unacquainted with the Ron Paul philosophy, which is far from Utopian and is a more cohesive, sane, and practical strategy for our country than anything Mitt Romney could articulate in a lifetime. Perhaps it would be worth your while to get familiar with his ideas, just for the heck of it. But don’t expect Mitt and his underhanded underlings to play fair or play smart. It just isn’t in them.
Bill Weston

This is another sad event for Ron Paul and moreover for our republic. If this is any comfort, Massachusets has one of the most powerful political machines in the country. It gave us the Kennedys and Barney Frank for example. The machine showed signs of wear and tear with an elected republican congressman to be sure. However, he may be forced into a “rino” role. Perhaps the governor faces a similar situation. If the republicans are to win this election for president, the voter base, including conservatives, (read patriots) has to be consolidated. Mitt Rino (uh Romney) is percieved as a “tolerable compromise” to the socialist liberals because he may be willing to continue compromising. Thus political maneuvers behind the scenes almost forced Ron Paul out. The strength of Ron Paul’s campaign cannot be denied though. The chips will fall as they may at the convention, but the “fat lady” sings on November 6th. I hope it wiil be the national anthem or “God Bless America”.
Tango

I cast my first vote for Nixon in 1968 and with one exception I have voted Republican for the last 43 years. I posted my thoughts about Ron Paul and have been called a “petulant kid”, “anti-American”, a “dope-smoking pervert”, and a “traitor”. Thanks for giving me a look at the modern Republican party. You have made it crystal clear how I should cast my vote. The hell with you!
- Showdown
  
  The problems this time around include inner party peer pressure (always a lot bigger factor than people think), and too many people who think they have to go with the whole group out of fear of Obama getting in again. Their fear of doing the right thing, instead of the popular thing, just might get Obama elected again. If I can’t conscientiously vote for Obama, I should apply the same principled objections to any other candidate. How anyone who claims to love liberty and love our Constitution can ignore Ron Paul’s unblemished record is beyond me. I have no idea what they think he would do that could possibly be worse than what we have seen in either party.
  One other factor in the minds of so many are Romney’s business background. Business without liberty is not going to be much consolation. But Big Business people (in the party) will go for the same.
  But reading Ron Paul’s books and seeing what he had done in Congress, as far as the committees he has been on etc. should clear any doubts they might have.
- Eagle
  
  What influence do you think that Ron Paul will have in the Congress if the Dems take over the majority again???
- antiglobalist
  
  He will not have any more influence than your elected offical. Sorry!
- Showdown
  
  The more power that freedom loving people pick up in each election makes their local representative a lot more receptive to that power. They ignore us only because of the kind of thinking that we are opposing on this page. Right now, they know that the sentiment is peace (in politics) at any price, so as long as they have a stronghold on the people thru MSM etc, and the peer pressure I mentioned above, they will keep ignoring you. Time to flex more freedom loving muscle.
- Showdown
  
  Well, now you are talking about one’s other votes and certainly NO ONE for Ron Paul is intending to put Democrats into office. And reluctant as the ones would be who remain, along with any remaining RINOs will find it increasingly difficult to ignore their constituents back home. The nation will not be changed back to what it should be overnight and Ron Paul has addressed that in speaking of each issue where it needed to be acknowledged.
Bob

Are Newt or Santorum asking for delegates at the convention?
http://profile.yahoo.com/B4FSZWMGAMGB2SY5ZETQ4ELUKU FRENCHIE

WHY DOES THIS NOT SURPRIZE ME AT ALL ? THEY’VE SCREWED US FROM DAY ONE IN IOWA & DONE EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO SHUT US UP & MAKE US GO AWAY. IT’S NOT WORKING, YOU NUMB-NUTS !!! EVERY DIRTY TRICK LIKE THIS JUST STRENGTHENS OUR RESOLVE. I’LL BET NEXT ELECTION YOU’LL BE WISHING WE WERE BACK IN YOUR CORNER. TRUTH IS, MOST OF US ARE SO DISGUSTED WITH THE “GOP ESTABLISHMENT” THAT WE’LL MOST LIKELY GO LIBERTARIAN AFTER THIS ELECTION & TAKE 2/3 OF THE PARTY WITH US. WAY TO GO, YOU PENILE-CRANIUMS !!! YOU’VE JUST DESTROYED WHAT WAS LEFT OF THE GOP, HOPE YOU’RE PROUD OF YOURSELVES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- pearl87
  
  This country cannot be saved through the political process – it’s already too corrupted. We have to work in the trenches as Ron Paul has done all his life, converting hearts and minds. Let the rats go down on the sinking ship.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PHPOPW6PYGL5JJX4HAOC5WT2CM Constance
  
  Romney does not want to BRING DOWN our great nation! Obama does. Until we have more than just voting, then we have to have an actual CIVIL WAR, again. I DO NOT want to live under the NEW WORLD ORDER. We will be controlled with RFID’s under our skin, etc. There is a reason that DHS is purchasing more ammo and why they used so much miltiary money to fix up old military camps into FEMA camps. They exist and have been activated and msm media confirmed this. Communists in the ’60′s wanted to kill over 25 million captialists. This includes Obama’s friend Bill Ayers. If you cannot see this by reading some conservatve websites, magazines or even by reading Obama’s novels, then it is over. We have too many democrat lemmings that will gladly fall off the cliff for Obama. Then Obama will push them under the bus, just like all the other communists/Marxists have done to their won people.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PHPOPW6PYGL5JJX4HAOC5WT2CM Constance
  
  I meant own people. (at the end.)
- antiglobalist
  
  ))))
- Showdown
  
  Constance, you are wrongly assuming that Ron Paul people don’t get all these things. But our freedoms are not being upheld by either party, and your rights have not been guaranteed for a long time. Up until now, people have been picked off (whether by overt force and detention , murder or some other way) one at a time or small group at a time. The monster has gained so much toleration of this that all of your above statements are more possible than ever before.
  As long as the tenets of freedom are held in the highest regard by both the people and those elected to office, old military bases used for emergencies wouldn’t be a problem. They ARE a problem now because we can’t trust the people running things and we know enough to know what their goals are. So why do we continually get roped into keeping only status quo people in office?
Dr Daddy

This behavior by insiders is self destructive. The energized youth movement supporting Ron Paul is a major benefit to the republican party. Why are the “moderates” (another word for liberals” in the party ) so blinded from reality? We will not get hispanic votes or extra black votes. We would get way more democrat and indipendent votes if we took a firm stand on illegals. So what do we do- throw away our energized new force and wimp down our positions popular with the people who want to take the country back. Business as usual will get ius the revolution the marxists want. We run wimp ads while Obama people actually lie in their ads and get away with it. Somebody please put some real men in charge- a little common sense might also be useful.
- pearl87
  
  This proves to anyone of sound mind that the Republican establishment is opposed to individual freedom every bit as much as Democrats. And they deserve no more of our confidence or our votes than democrats.
- Jim Alexander
  
  It proves Ron Paul and his supporters are more concerned with personal recognition than they are of supporting the man who will be our candidate and assuring Obama will be defeated. Stop whining and let’s all make sure Obama is not here again. It is not about Ron Paul or you! It’s about a free America!!!
- steamrollers61
  
  I agree with you. While Ron Paul was the “real” conservative choice, he wasn’t able to win. Having said that …. we should all be more interested in getting rid of Obama now. Even if Romney appears to be the weaker choice. At least he was smart enough to pick a conservative as his running mate, and who knows if he won’t appoint Ron Paul to some equally deserved cabinet, etc. We need to work together … this one last time, because if Obama wins, there will never be any other elections. PS …. and if Romney isn’t conservative enough while serving as POTUS, then it’s your responsibility to keep your eye on everything happening in DC. You have to fight for your own freedom. Do not rely on “self-serving” politicians.
- http://twitter.com/Dacooop Neil Cooper
  
  That’s all we keep doing every election cycle! The media owns your brain.
- Nomittens
  
  You could not be more dead wrong and obviously have no idea what Ron Paul’s message is. It’s about liberty and freedom for every American! It’s about following, and restoring The Constitution Of The Untied States Of America! It’s about letting Americans make their own choices. It is not for the government to tell me how to live my life.
- antiglobalist
  
  That would be RINO running the RNC. That is why I am Indepent. RNC left year ago.
- http://www.facebook.com/lumpy.rutherford.31 Lumpy Rutherford
  
  Doc, you’re right on the money. Though I’m not completely sold on Paul, I too, am offended that the RINO’s are running things. Personally, I don’t see a dime’s worth of difference between Romney and Obama–their stands on so-called assault rifles are the same, as well as socialized medicine. The only way I could ever be sure they aren’t the same person is if I could see them standing side-by-side. Until then, I can’t shake the feeling that one of them is Obama in disguise…
- jagans
  
  Hopefully the people that say you are wasting your vote if you write in Ron Paul will read this article. Those of you that think that Mitt Romney is the answer to our problems, are dreaming. The three things that they are fighting for are right at the top of my list.
  
  Raymond needs a late night talk show, He,d beat the read headed schmuck by a mile
tncdel

I can see Paulbots are having a hissy fit about this. Damn shame grown-ups often act like petulant kids.
- Tango
  
  Great tactic. Insult and deride Paul supporters – as if Romney has a chance in hell of getting elected without them. Moron!
- http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown
  
  It’s the Romulans who are acting like children here. They lost the delegates by the rules, then manipulated the rules to decertify these that were obtained fairly.
- Randy131
  
  I just can’t believe this site has been taken over by a bunch of Ron Paul supporters that just won’t accept that the majority of the people don’t want their candidate, and voted for someone else, so now they’re going behind the backs of the majority of the voters to usurp the will of those voters and try to install their candidate despite him not winning a single primary, and I believe only one caucus. So to hell with what the majority of Americans want, lets let a small minority do whatever they want and run the country. Face facts, Ron Paul LOST, Mitt Romney won, live with it. Give the majority of the people what they took their time to vote for, and what they want. Quit acting like the man we all want to get out of the White House!
- http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown
  
  Randy you have missed the point again. This issue here is about Romney stealing delegates that were approved by the RNC rules. That is the issue here. Nothing more. They want their voices heard at the convention. Paul did win a plurality of state delegates and even major media outlets reported that. Videos are available here at FO for you to see that. Whether he wins or not is not the subject of the post. Theft of delegates is. Thanks for your comments.
- Randy131
  
  My understanding is that the delegates in question were originally suppose to go to Romney in the first place, but through some back door dealings, Ron Paul delegates were put in place instead, and what is going on now is that error is being corrected. I don’t think Romney’s people have been going after the delegates that Ron Paul actually won, for they don’t need them to win the nomination, but they do need the delegates that Romney did win and have been replaced through back door fenagling by Ron Paul supporters, and what is happening now is that fenagling is being corrected, no matter what plans those Ron Paul delegates, that should have originally been Romney delegates, have made and the cost they incur, because they knew the delegate position they got was suppose to go to Romney backers in the first place, for Romney’s vote tallies and wins.
tncdel

Ron Paul is a mixed bag. Good on most things, but not all. He sucks when it comes to upholding the Constitution’s tenet of DOMESTIC National defense versus illegal aliens and Islamic encroachment.

And although he talks a good game regarding balancing the budget and cutting government spending, the bottomline is that talk’s cheap and RP is really nothing more than an “armchair quarterback.” Whereas, Romney’s “been there done that.” See:
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/mitt-romney-as-governor-of-the-bluest-of-blue-states-managed-to-balance-the-budget-without-raising-t/question-2533475/
RP isn’t as qualified in business as Romney is to turn our nation’s failing economy around. Paul Ryan wasn’t my first choice for VP. Allen West or Rand Paul would have been better. But Ryan is a lot better than the likes of the TRAITOR Rubio or RINO Christie or NWO puppet Rice. And I see no one better suited in politics than Romney is for turning around our failing economy. See:http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/mitt-romney-made-a-boatload-of-money-buying-risky-failing-companies-and-turning-them-around-to-profi/question-2414233/
- pearl87
  
  You have nothing intelligent to say so why not quiet down and let the patriotic Americans discuss this?
tncdel

Good! In unity there is strength. Splitting off votes we need to oust the usurper is sheer stupidity.
Tango

So for the first time in my life, I will be writing in a candidate – Ron Paul.
- Luise
  
  PR play dirty so he shouldn’t have any delegates, do some investigating to see what kind of person he is, besides he wouldn’t have chance against O
- Tango
  
  I have studied Ron Paul for years and if this is the game Romney wants to play, he won’t be getting my vote.
- Luise
  
  I have been watching him for a long time and he doesn’t have enough in him to be a president, he promise the drugs are a one of his admires for that reason
- http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown
  
  luise, he never promised drugs to anyoone. apparently you haven’t been watching close enough.
- vincent
  
  The poor grammer leads me to believe that someone MAY have given Louise some drugs. It was not Ron Paul. And the neocons scream about voter fraud…
- squeak
  
  He wants to make drugs legal, get your dam facts straight…he wants the young peoples’ votes, he thinks Iran should have the Biggie Bomb…he is a nutcase from way back !!
- http://www.facebook.com/john.duzan.5 John Duzan
  
  Paulbots were always going to vote for the most anti-American running. None of them would ever vote for someone who who wants to make America great again. If it isn’t Cut and Run they will flock to the next most anti-American.
- vincent
  
  Typical chickenhawk! Send other people’s kids to die for the third world dictatorships….
  We are bankrupt, and the neoCONs want to spend trillions more to support military bases in countries that have no strategic interest.
  If you are so gung ho about “making Amurrica great” you should grab a gun and head over to fight one of Obama’s many undeclared wars. You have a choice: fight with Al-Qaeda in Syria, West Africa, Tunisia, Sudan, maybe even Jordan.
  Killing foreigners with dark skin is making America free, ain’t it?
  And the neocons have no problem with the NDAA or the executive assassination decrees. They support domestic spying, a militarized police force and asset forfeiture laws.
  Mitzi is gonna lose, and the illegals that he panders to will VOTE FOR OBAMA!!
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PHPOPW6PYGL5JJX4HAOC5WT2CM Constance
  
  Obama has shut up more people than Romney ever has. He, by denying to show his BC, had a miltary officer thrown in jail for awhile. Everywhere that someone has tried to get Obama off the ballot, the judge has gone with Obama and his well paid lawyers. Is Ron Paul ready for some coop action (probably violent) to get Obama out of the WH? Like you I think our whole way of government is out of whack and needs major correcting. I have a magazine by Whistleblower that is all about fraud and how Obama is going to use it again to get re-elected. Why doesn’t Ron or Rand Paul go after the identity of Obama? I don’t trust our gov’t at all and I think Congress only cares about staying in power or else we would have more done by them. Good grief! If we come up with another party that cares for the welfare of all of us, I’ll be with you, but in the meantime being angry at the repubs and writing in Paul will not help our dire situation.
- Showdown
  
  Most of what you said is true. It seems obvious to anyone familiar with the legal system to any extent at all, that something is terribly wrong. To read/listen to statements of people who have taken him to court on the eligibility issue before it is ever finished, one has to consider that something evil is going on in the background, such as threats against them or bribes. You have probably also read about the woman who was filming the documentary and traveling with Hillary. Something had to occur to shut Clinton up. But in any case, someone knows the truth.
  When our people become right thinking and behaving all of the evil will go away. It doesn’t ALL hinge on this election.
- Classic_Liberal
  
  Stop watching Faux news and listening to Hannity. If you knew anything about the Constitution and freedom you wouldn’t make such stupid remarks about Ron Paul and his supporters. I have voted Repub since my first vote in 76 but will no longer. You have bought into the false polarity of the 2 party system not realizing you are being played and that obomney are two sides of the same coin. If not Ron Paul Gary Johnson will be on the ballot and getting my vote after 36 years as a Republican. No more!
- pearl87
  
  You can’t even spell YOUR OWN NAME right! lol
- Showdown
  
  Republicans will get part of the party to vote for Romney and a few disgruntled other party folks. But Ron Paul would get the majority of Republicans IF he were the nominee… BUT he would also take MANY of the votes from people who would most likely never vote a Republican ticket. Believe it or not, people who understand what liberty is, GET IT.
- Augustine
  
  Ron Paul does’t have a chance in Hades to win. You are throwing away your vote. And if Obama gets re-elected for another four years we’ll all know who to blame.
- Tango
  
  Romney is Obama Lite. If you think I care what you may think try this – Tough! You’ll never convince me of your position by tearing down Ron Paul. I need a reason to allow this underhanded tactic by the RNC to pass, because what I’m reading here only convinces me to wash my hands of the Republicans for good!
- Showdown
  
  Corruption has so thoroughly crept in to every level of government that people don’t even recognize it for what it is. This lawlessness cannot be rewarded with my vote, no matter how it turns out. Sooner or later conviction of the mind, heart and soul have to take precedence. Anything less is cowardice.
- http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown
  
  Yes, we do…..the GOP for handing us mccain 2.0
- Showdown
  
  @FPPTim:disqus Did you or anyone out there ever believe that the 2008 election was thrown? The only time you see McCain put his heart and soul into anything is when it is for a liberal cause. And allowing his own staff to denigrate Palin?
- pearl87
  
  Ron Paul is going to get more votes than we will ever be allowed to know about. Who cares? These weasels fixed the process so we never get the true results anyway. Diebolt voting machines, anyone? Just program the winner before the election, and there are no embarrassing surprises.
- Showdown
  
  Then why is the GOP giving us someone who is only somewhat different from Obama? We will never come to common meeting ground until we unite in principle. The status quo is NOT a principle. It’s an easy way to think you have done something. Americans have been waving their flag and their patriotism for 4 years and we end up with a legislature that totally ignores us and a candidate that will just take a little longer getting us into a more severely socialized country. A line has been crossed. You may not know where that line is but we do.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PHPOPW6PYGL5JJX4HAOC5WT2CM Constance
  
  You are so NAIVE! Obama has been trying to bring his Marxists policies and executive orders right the way his handler, Soros and other commies, want us. He has been ramming this stuff down our throats. He won’t let the media really vet him. Paying his lawyers millions not to see all his records means there is something very fishy he is hiding. He lies. Watch him on YouTube. He doesn’t just flip-flop, he tells lies! Everyone filp-flops about something when they learn more about an issue and change their mind. Obama does not want to unite with anyone because he doesn’t care about America they way we do. Has it ever occurred to you that we have a president we don’t really know, that comes out of nowhere, but has been elected to ruin America because he hates it for what it stands? He is getting us ripe to be taken over by people you are going to despise more than Romney. You think that Obama is playing by the rules, but for a long time you see that his change could destroy the Constitution (he wants to throw out) and what our great country was built on. WAKE UP! If we go down, the rest of the world will be right with us. Our Forefather’s courage and our soldiers sacrifices will be for naught!
- Showdown
  
  @yahoo-PHPOPW6PYGL5JJX4HAOC5WT2CM:disqus First of all, I don’t despise Romney. I just don’t want him to get into office and lead us to the same place things are headed now.
  Ron Paul is the only one who will not do that.
  It sounds like you need to know more about the Cabal that has been running the world.
  Romney basically is running like a candidate would have in times far past. We need a candidate who sees the danger we are in and who is interested in getting us back on track. He is not that person. In normal times, without the socialist ideas he seems to favor and the moral issues he would probably be a okay or at least harmless President. He doesn’t see what you see. He is too close to the forest to see the trees and it is just about winning. I don’t doubt that he loves this country. But we need someone who understands what this country was intended to be and how close we are to losing it. We cannot save this country with a status quo President. As I have said above. We have many LEGAL reasons to remove both Obama and many high level Democrats from Office because of the collusion that allowed him in to begin with. But if those charged with upholding the Constitution aren’t doing it, what do you think is really going to change?
- squeak
  
  Can’t you see these ARE Obama people on this site…look at all the ups & downs on certain comments…they are in disguise,trying to influence people to vote for Paul knowing it will go to Obama ! What a bunch of idiots…did not work !!
- Showdown
  
  @8d95cb76dd5698cd7446ead37a3c8327:disqus And you will still have all of the same reasons for removing him LEGALLY from office that you have had during this past 3 1/2 years. All you have to do is find, or elect, people in office who are willing to do it.
- squeak
  
  Exactly Right….. they will throw this election to Obama as Ross Perot did for Clinton…. I think these Paulbots are a nutcase just like Paul..they WILL be the blame…hope they can sleep at night !!
- squeak
  
  What a shame to hand this Country to Obama…you know darn well he will not win, so WHY ??? As I read these comments on this page I thought I was on a Liberal Site… God help you !
Randy131

The winner of the primary of each state is suppose to have delegates that are loyal to him for at least the first vote in the convention, but Ron Paul supporters have inserted their delegates instead, and what is happening right now is that this is being remedied before the convention comes up, Romney won that state’s primary and he should get his delegates to represent that state. Some states divide their delegates by the percentage of the vote won, and again the Ron Paul supporters have rigged this requirement. Ron Paul won no Republican Primaries, and I think just one state caucus, but has been going to all the states they can to insert their delegates instead of the delegates of the actual winner of that states primary. Romney won enought states for the total of delegates to win the nomination at the convention, but Ron Paul supporters are trying to rig the delegates of each state to give him votes he did not earn in the state’s primaries.
- http://www.facebook.com/john.duzan.5 John Duzan
  
  Paulbots hate it when someone gets facts in the way of their propaganda.
- Randy131
  
  I’ve noticed that too, strange isn’t it!
- http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown
  
  So do Romulans. That’s why they are cheating on the delegates by manipulating tthe rules when someone plays by them and beats them at their own game.
- http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown
  
  BTW, as of yet John, all I’ve seen from you is bad mouth people. It seems you have no facts to support your bad mouthing. This is the way liberals deal with people. It shouldn’t be the way Republicans deal with people. But the Republican party is like a Virginia Slim….they’ve come a long way (left) baby!
- pearl87
  
  Ignorance is bliss, so you should be in ecstasy.
- Randy131
  
  Bliss or not, I just want the man who won the most primaries by getting the most votes, get the delegates he is suppose to, instead of being cheated out of his victory by trickery, for the huge majority of the people voted for Mitt Romney, not Ron Paul, who doesn’t know how to lose with grace, so therefore couldn’t win that way either. I once respected Ron Paul, but not any more, thank GOD his son has more dignity than he does, for his son may make a great President some day, but Ron Paul through his shenanigans has proven he has not the character to be a great President, Why don’t you Ron Paul supporters accept that the people have spoken through their votes, and they disguarded Ron Paul and chose Mitt Romney. Though I may be in ignorant bliss, at least I’m not in hateful misery, because my candidate lost and I just can’t accept the facts, so’ll I’ll cheat to corrupt the process.
- http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown
  
  News flash! Obama wants Romney too. He told everyone that last year. There’s a reason for it too.
- Randy131
  
  I really don’t care what Obama wants, or the reason why. I just want what the majority of the people voted for. You complain that Obama goes behind Congress’ back and impliments policies he can’t get through the legislative process, so how is that any different than what Ron Paul’s supporters are doing to the delegates to the Republican Convention, are we all now hypocrites just because the people won’t vote for the man we want? Jimmy Carter wanted to run against Ronald Reagan too, and he got to, and we all know how that turned out, at least I do since I lived through that campaign, and was very happy that Jimmy Carter got what he wanted, but then so too did the majority of the American voters, and without all the hypocracy going on today by the Ron Paul supporters. I see history repeating itself, for what Obama has done to the economy has duplicated what Jimmy Carter did to our economy, and that’s why Obama is compared to Jimmy Carter so much, as well as his policies and agenda. Mitt Romney is the Republican nominee, accept it and move on, and any conservative that fails to support Mitt Romney is supporting Obama through negligence and jealous apathy.
- http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown
  
  How is it different Randy? Seriously? They have followed the rules to obtain those delegates Sir. That is the difference. I know you don’t like it. I know the establishment doesn’t like it, but Paul was up front on that and his people were educated on the rules and how to become delegates. You are comparing apples and oranges here.
  
  Mitt Romney is the presumptive nominee at this point Sir. Again, just buy into what you are told, rather than question it. That is not helpful.
  
  “and any conservative that fails to support Mitt Romney is supporting Obama through negligence and jealous apathy.”
  
  Well one would need to be a conservative to support a conservative. Romney is not a conservative. He’s a liberal and his record in Mass demonstrates that. No thanks, I’ll vote for someone who is fiscally conservative and will follow the Constitution. It is my vote after all and the reality, despite your mantra, is that it is a vote for the person I place it for, not Obama.
  
  If you did your homework you would know that Paul will take votes away from Obama, not Romney:)
- Randy131
  
  No, they did not follow the rules to get those delegates. Those delegates were suppose to be the delegates of the winner of the primary in which state the voting took place, by either winner take all, or percent of delegates to be equal to percent of votes won. Ron Paul is trying to steal the election Romney won by installing his delegates instead of the ones Romney should have for winning the primary, or the larger percentage of votes, and just because you prefer Paul over Romney, doesn’t mean we ignore who the people voted for and won the primaries. I agree that Paul is probably much more conservative than Romney, but doesn’t mean we ignore the will of the people by the ballots that were cast, and go around the primary election and give the delegates to the loser. This is not a perfect world and we don’t always get what we want, but a little is better than nothing, and our system isn’t one that it’s your way or the highway. Let the man who the people chose and won the primaries, that gave him the majority of the delegates to win the nomination, have the delegates he is suppose to get, despite back door tricks. If Obama beats Romney, so be it, but at least we’ll have played by the rules and the majority wins it for their man, not a small percentage of Ron Paul supporters, who apparently think they know what is best for everyone else, sneak their man into a position that he didn’t earn or win. You know Romney has won the nomination through the ballot box of all the primaries of all the states, quit trying to cheat him out of it and give him the delegates that he won.
wild bill

f—y—John Dimwit Duzan. Don,t pee on my leg and tell me it is raining
- http://www.facebook.com/john.duzan.5 John Duzan
  
  Can’t handle the truth, can you. Cut and Run and his band of surrender monkeys are only concerned with legalizing drugs, and prostitution and making America as weak as possible.
- http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown
  
  i would say the people tthat can’t handle the truth are those that are cheating delegates out of their spots.
Raymond

In honor of the 44th President of the United States , Baskin-Robbins Ice Cream has introduced a new flavor: “ Barocky Road .”

Barocky Road is a blend of half vanilla, half chocolate, and surrounded by nuts and flakes. The vanilla portion of the mix is not openly advertised and usually denied as an ingredient. The nuts and flakes are all very bitter and hard to swallow.
The cost is $92.84 per scoop…so out of a hundred dollar bill you are at least promised some CHANGE..!
When purchased it will be presented to you in a large beautiful cone, but after you pay for it, the ice cream is taken away and given to the person in line behind you at no charge.You are left with an almost empty wallet, staring at an empty cone and wondering what just happened. Then you realize this is what “redistribution of wealth” is all about.
Aren’t you just stimulated?
- Sandra
  
  Wow, Raymond you are poetic too!
- Rhonda Anderson
  
  I just love your comments. They are right to the point. Thanks.
- PA Running Woman
  
  Raymond, I doff my hat to your wit and wisdom. Thanks so much! I will be passing this on
- wapkep
  
  I thought I saw this flavor at Ben & Jerrys!
- John C
  
  Raymond you are the Man!!!! Thanks for another one to start the day with a little laughter.
- Vox populi
  
  Nice one Raymond. Semper fi
- antiglobalist
  
  Raymond Great post keep up the good work. Thanks for your whit.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Scott/100002103340101 Ed Scott
  
  Good One, and so true.
Raymond

Today’s Lesson!
The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department
of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is distributing the
greatest amount of Free Meals and Food Stamps ever!!!

Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the
U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us to “Please Do Not
Feed the Animals.”
Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will
grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care
of themselves.
This ends Today’s Lesson!!!
- Bill Weston
  
  Does that mean that a portion of our society on welfare has become animals? Just asking. By the way, your humor is great; keep commenting.
- WerewolfVm
  
  Some are indeed animals of sort!
- 1_Eddie_1
  
  If only Washington D.C. could understand the irony of what you stated.
- Piltdown911
  
  I have a tear in my eye over the simplistic truth written above.
geneww1938

Romney may be better that our illegal White House resident but not by much. Ron Paul will make the bigger difference between the two campaigns. Bad times are comming but many remain calm and confident because God is not worried and they have the Biblical assurance that they will be with Him for eternity.
- Bill Weston
  
  Sound like you read the end of the book.
- Showdown
  
  “In all these things we are more than conquerors.”
- Eagle
  
  “Give not that which is sacred over to the dogs, and cast not your pearls before swine, lest they be trampled under you feet”. “God helps those who help themselves” Jesus Christ.
  The message that I get from this is that I have a responsibility to protect the gifts given to this Country, and to do something about it, even if the only choice that is feesable is the lesser of two wevils. Not voting on election day would be to disregard the Lords message.!!!
- Showdown
  
  @Eagle Speaking of election day, I went to the poll for the primary at about 6:30 PM. Normally, for any national election there would be a lot of people waiting in line. This time there was one other lady voting who was almost finished when I came in. There was a reason to have a discussion with the people on duty regarding a change in districts so my vote took just a little longer than 5 minutes or so. During that time, NOT ONE OTHER VOTER came in to vote.
  This is important because I live in an area with a lot of apartments and even in years past when I couldn’t find the location info on any mailings I had, I couldn’t find one person who was out and about at this complex who knew where out polling place was.
  More of an effort to work with people in apartment complexes needs to be done. I speak to myself as well as all of you. There is a whole segment of our population where very few people even have an interest. THAT, all by itself is scary.
  One other thing regarding your fist paragraph. Jesus did say that we shouldn’t cast our pearls before swine. But the next sentence about God helping those who help themselves isn’t a biblical statement. It’s a popular saying but I don’t think any who believe the scripture really want to be adding something that isn’t there.
Milo Minderbender

They’re P.A.’s (If you do not know what that means translate this: They have never had diaper rash, never had the runs and never had hemorrhoids. What does that make them? “A perfect a…….”)
Tango

As a Ron Paul supporter, I was prepared to vote for Romney in order to oust Obama, but developments like this will force me to vote for Obama regardless.
- http://www.facebook.com/john.duzan.5 John Duzan
  
  Cut and Run supporters have never had any intention of voting for an American. Paulbots want the most anti-American running.
- Tango
  
  Ron Paul is more of an American than you could ever hope to be.
- http://www.facebook.com/john.duzan.5 John Duzan
  
  I served during Viet Nam. I did not join the National Guard when the fighting started just to get out of the heat. I did not blame America for 9/11. I do not want perverts in the military. I do not want to destroy the military. Cut and Run is no American, at least not in heart.
- Tango
  
  I don’t care if you served in the Civil War, idiot! If you think Romney has a chance of winning without the support of Ron Paul’s supporters, you’re “looney toons”!
- http://www.facebook.com/john.duzan.5 John Duzan
  
  Cut and Run’s band of surrender monkeys have never had any intention of voting for the Republican candidate. They are only concerned with getting free drugs. They are going to vote for Obama, if they can make it out of mom and dad’s basement.
- http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown
  
  johnn that was a moronic statement.
- http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown
  
  wait you don’t want perverts in the military but you’ll vote for a guy that legalized homosexual ‘marriage’ endorses them in the boy scouts and wants them serving openly in the military….hmmmm me thinks john doesn’t kknow what hhe’s talking about here. but thanks for your service.
- leefromok
  
  So what did we accomplish in Viet Nam?
  How many innocent people lost their lives because you did what your government told you to do without you asking why?
  Is that how you define patriotism?
  America used to walk softly but carry a big stick.
  Now we use the stick on everybody!
  Why are people in such a hurry to start WW3?
  Do you think the people that would cheat to get elected really care about our freedom?
- happy every day
  
  Why vote for Obama. Either don’t vote or write-in Ron Paul.
  
  At least it will make you feel good.
  
  Voting Obama will make you puke !
- http://www.facebook.com/john.duzan.5 John Duzan
  
  Voting Obama will make you puke ! Just about as much as voting for the surrender monkey. There is very little difference between them. They both blame America for 9/11. Both want perverts in the military. Both love to waste money. Both are pro-abortion. Both want to see America’s military destroyed. About the only difference is Obama realized getting rid of OBL was good. Cut and Run thought we abused his civil right to kill innocent Americans.
- http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown
  
  sorry wasting money if the guy you’re voting for, not to mention he likes making it easy fro the homosexuals to redefine marriage.
- leefromok
  
  It makes me want to puke every time I think about voting for McCain.
  We are about to be McCained again!
  I’m sorry I didn’t vote for Ron Paul last time.
- robert
  
  we know you paul people would be traitors to your country if you don’t get your way, go ahead and vote for him, you will destroy his sons career which will destroy him
- Tango
  
  Yeah, that really helps convince someone of your views – call them a traitor. You sound as bad as an Obamabot.
- pearl87
  
  Romney and the Republican RINO establishment are the traitors. They have corrupted the system and broken the law in an effort to seize all the power for themselves and take it away from the people to whom it belongs. Keep your lies and warnings for yourself, you will need them.
- http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown
  
  This is just an asinine comment. I dont’ care for a politician’s career. Paul supporters care about elected officials governing by the rule of law and the Constitution. That was something conservatives and Republicans use to stand for. They still give the rhetoric, but watch how they govern…..always big government, deficit spending and more of the same.
- http://www.facebook.com/momchristo Cat Christodoulou
  
  Go ahead. Throw the baby out with the bath water. You won’t be hurting the Romney people; You will be hurting the next several generations who will have to pay off our debts and live with the ultra liberal Supreme court we will be handing them with two retiring justices expected to retire in the next 4 years. This election is bigger than one political party. Vote Gary Johnson if you feel you must make a statement.
- http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown
  
  Cat there are no “Romney people” There are Republicans who have been hoodwinked by the GOP. I venture to say I have not run across one person who supported Romney from the beginning. In fact, I’ve yet to run across anyone who supported him as a second or third or fourth or fifth choice from the beginning. They just believe this is what they are stuck with. They don’t believe they can exercise their own right to vote for whomever they choose and in that vein, they don’t see how they are bound.
- pearl87
  
  Write in Ron Paul, you don’t want to actually help elect an illegal alien.
David Msg ret

Might as well have a democrat as to have obamney…then the RNC wonders why I am not sending them the $2,500.00 I used to..Let Dr. Paul’s delegates participate…or just call yourselves exclusionary democrats
- http://www.facebook.com/john.duzan.5 John Duzan
  
  Why should the Republicans allow an anti-American whose views have nothing in common with Republicans have delegates. Cut and Run’s only purpose is to try to disrupt the Republican Convention.His only support comes from anti-Americans and dope smoking perverts.
- http://www.facebook.com/john.duzan.5 John Duzan
  
  Cut and Run and his band of surrender monkeys only want Appeasement Paul to get a speaking position at the convention so he can embarrass the Republican Party. The media would have a field day.” Republicans blame 9/11 on America”. “Jews and Blacks are inferior.” “America abused OBL civil rights by getting rid of him’” “America needs to legalize all drugs and prostitution.” All of the views of Cut and Run Paul. The surrender monkey wants to destroy the Republican Party at any cost.
- 1_Eddie_1
  
  Why must you be offensive? I do not surrender to anyone unless it is Jesus my Lord and Saviour. I do not use drugs and do not want too. Legalization of drugs won’t make anyone use them if they do not want to use them. Just as gun control does not work, the same can be said about drugs. Why shouldn’t the government be able to tax some fool that wants to put poison into his/her body? Incarcerating drug addicts only cost’s us money. I say tax them. As for prostitutes, I do not solicit them and do not want to either. I say tax them also, incarcerating them cost’s us money. Why should we give them 3 hots and a cot and medical care to boot? I do not support abortion as it is murder. Why is our country involved in so many undeclared wars? Cut and run? Really? What part of only congress can declare war do people not understand? Appeasement? Really? What part of don’t mess with America do you not understand? Do you really think that Dr. Ron Paul would allow another country to walk all over the U.S.A.? He would go to congress and seek it’s approval, something that has not been done in years. I am not trying to pick a fight here, but, I think you are not looking at things in the right perspective. I am tired of voting for RINO’s. I am also tired of people telling me that I have to vote for a RINO. If I have to vote for a RINO, I might as well vote for a Democrat, because there is no difference between the two.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PHPOPW6PYGL5JJX4HAOC5WT2CM Constance
  
  Gun control does work. When citizens have guns there is less likely violence to take place. Look at DC’s abysmal statistics. Every time we make something bad legal, people actually believe it is not bad for them. Laws are in place to shape people’s behavior. If they hadn’t made sodomy okay, they wouldn’t have been able to use this as saying same-sex marriage should be okay. There are consequences for the laws we uphold and don’t uphold. We can’t afford to keep Holder who is corrupt in charge of the justice dept. There are so many reasons to vote for Romney even if you have to hold your nose. Look at everything long and hard, please!
- antiglobalist
  
  Constance, Gun control benifits those that intend on tyranny. That is why the founding fathers gave us the right to keep & bear arms. Gun control only benifets the lawless. Got it?
- antiglobalist
  
  My friend you are on a roll. Keep up the good work. We have been the silent majority long enough. Go for the throat of ignorance and stupidity. Semper Fi
- Showdown
  
  John Duzan, you couldn’t be more wrong on any point you try to make. It seems that you are short on your understanding of what liberty is exactly. He does not promote any of the things you mentioned. You need to know more about the “War on Drugs.” No one can explain the fallacies of it, you will just need to dig it out for yourself. A lot of the evil we see in society would simply go away if the government went back to our founding principles. Our government today does not resemble in the slightest fashion the government our fore-fathers handed to us. So by voting for those who want to give us socialism or communism you will be voting to keep funding all of the agencies and all of the programs that fund much of the evil in our midst. I would suggest reading the biographies of the founding fathers. Until you see what they saw, and catch a glimpse of what they provided for you, an understanding of what is wrong with how things are, will escape you completely. You need the yardstick by which everything else is measured.
  But in any case, drop all of that nonsense about who YOU think Ron Paul’s followers are. Just in my lifetime 9 family members have fought in all of the wars since WWII except Desert Storm (because no one was the right age). I have never used any illegal drugs in my life. And all of the people I know who are Ron Paul supporters are fine, smart, patriotic Americans. Oh, and my friends are all races of people.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PHPOPW6PYGL5JJX4HAOC5WT2CM Constance
  
  Unfortunately, a vote of Ron Paul is a vote for Obama. Showdown, it will not be a showdown if you throw away your vote. What John said is what many of us think of Ron Paul. He will be our Waterloo if people vote for him. He will not become president. Go ahead! Spite your face and vote for using your nose.
- antiglobalist
  
  Constance, Quit listening to the American propaganda machine. Start thinking for your self. GGGGGggggeeeZZZZZZZZ
- guest
  
  Constance,what you are suggesting is that people compromise their morals to get what you want.Peter did that and was ashamed.Wrong is wrong,and I for one wont choose a lesser of two evils,I will vote my moral conscience.
- Showdown
  
  Constance, it is unlikely that people will vote for him if he is not the nominee. However unlike it is that an upset may occur, this article is an example of how you are manipulated every election to vote for the lesser of 2 EVILS. Eventually we will either live in utter subjection to the wiles of the Globalist/Socialist or whatever other form the Cabal takes. We have had ample reason to remove Obama from office for the last 3 1/2 years and no one has had guts enough to do it.
  So whether anyone actually votes for Ron Paul at election time or not, you could still be facing a loss. When you consider the amount of corruption in the elections alone this is a very iffy election.
  Unless we have the liberty we are supposedly guaranteed by the Constitution not much else is going to matter. And not one of the other candidates has exemplified any concern for your liberty and each have traces of establishment politics as usual. You can only be President if you show strong signs of going along.
  Sooner or later people have to make a stand whether it is this time or some other. If people had voted for Ron Paul in the first place we wouldn’t be faced with a severe choice.
  Exactly what is it that you are looking for in the next President besides beating Obama. Your attention has been so deliberately focused on that issue alone that it has become the ONLY issue (rhetoric notwithstanding).
  Is it jobs? Is it healthcare (which Romney has repeatedly said he will “change”, not eliminate the government’s control. It certainly isn’t the moral issues because he has pandered to both those on the side of abortion and the so-called gay rights and gay marriage. And with all of the RINOs around the country stepping out of the way on Sharia law and other Muslim demands, how much difference to you think there really is between O and R?
  Frankly, after all of the flag waving of the past 4 years, and the concern about our Bill of Rights, I am totally disgusted with the tail tucking and running with the guy that we have been led to believe is the one who can beat O. Well, so much for principles. Unless the people prove fit to choose, how can they self-govern?
- antiglobalist
  
  JOHN Shut up you emberass the whole damm country!
- 1_Eddie_1
  
  I see that you are a veteran. I would like to thank you for your service as it is an honorable endeavor. I will not take that away from anyone that is deserving of it.
  Not everyone that supports Dr. Ron Paul is a dope smoking pervert. I am not anti-American. I love my country. If our beloved country was to be invaded tomorrow, I would defend her to my death.
  Anwar Al-Awlaki was a low life dirtbag that I will not miss. However, he was an American citizen. He should’ve been arrested, or at least an attempt to arrest him, and if he died in a firefight as a result of an arrest attempt, so be it. The problem with what happened is that he was denied due process of the law. If the government can deny him due process of the law, they can deny you the same.
  As far as Osama Bin Laden is concerned, he got what was comming to him. B.O. did what was politically expedient by giving our Special Forces the green light. Thank you Special Forces for taking out the trash with extreme predjudice.
  I think we should all tone down the rhetoric, as it is not productive. We are not against each other, we want what is best for our beloved country. We just happen to see things from a different perspective.
- antiglobalist
  
  1_eddie_1 well said. Very elogant, Semper Fi
- gerard100
  
  I’ve got news for you – your country IS being invaded!
- Eagle
  
  John; do more research on the Constitution, the Federalist Papers and Dr. Paul’s views, before you continue to embarrass yourself.
- antiglobalist
  
  It’s the Constutition STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Eagle
  
  Might it just be, if it is evident that Obama was reelected because of Dr. Paul’s influence on the RNC Campaign, that his popularity with conservatives and moderates would decline to the point that he was defeated in the next Congressional election??? That would be sad indeed, as we do need his voice, and excellent record there.!!!
  Just Asking !
- guest
  
  He wont be running for congress next time,he is retiring,and good luck to the country when he is no longer fighting for our liberty and freedom.
http://christiancitizenshipforum.blogspot.com/ OneCitizenOfTheRepublic

If THIS is how Romney is planning to “lead” then he can forget my vote. Obama is dangerous, and he is hurting America every day, and too many ways to list.

But, if Romney will remove legally elected delegates, just to silence them…then how can we vote for him? Do we swallow our own values and morals to defeat the morals and values of Obama…HOW does that define our own character?
- Infidel48
  
  They need to change the election system. The 2 Party system Does NOT Work. I am tired of voting for the lesser of 2 weasels.
  We should be allowed to vote Yes or No on the candidates. If neither weasel gets a majority of Yes votes than the Ruling Elite Parties would have to pick 2 new weasels until one is found who is acceptable to We the People. This is not prohibited by the Constitution.
  I vote NO
- http://christiancitizenshipforum.blogspot.com/ OneCitizenOfTheRepublic
  
  Yes, a European-style “No Confidence” vote is for sure something we need…Consider the 11% approval rating in Congress…that would be a lot of heads rolling off the platform…AND THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING. Replace them all…well, almost all.
- Eagle
  
  The true Constitutional Governance of this country will come from a “No Party” system. The Supreme Law of the land is the only guide to the US becomming a great Nation again.
  The “Party” platforms have not addressed this for over 100 years.
- Jeff Kelly
  
  Infidel48, check out the Approval Voting concept:
  http://www.electology.org/approval-voting
  
  Perhaps this is what you desire.
- Infidel48
  
  That looks better than what we have, but “None of the Above” needs to be added
- Noelle
  
  Do we swallow our own values and morals to defeat the morals and values of Obama.
  NO! NO WE DO NOT SWALLOW OUR VALUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Eagle
  
  Does that also mean that we do not pick a less destructive path to follow? Defeating the liberals in the Executive and Legislative branch of the Government this November is the only chance that we have to begin to change the direction of this Country. It can’t happen overnight, because we’ve been on the wrong course since the establishment of the Central Bank, almost 100 years ago.
  Ron Pauls voice is important to attain the right changes; but just as Senator Rubio says,”More can be accomplished by being a force in the Congress.
- nvrat
  
  The irony here is you hate Obama but, you will deliberately let him win because you disagree with the GOP decision to side step Paul supporters. I would think that you would want Obama out of office first and then ouster the GOP elites through vote or challenge. Infidel148 sez it best. The two party system don`t work because of selection. Consider the TEA Party they are trying to change the concept of government through constitutional conservatism regardless of party affiliation. Please, don`t throw up your hands and pout for national destruction through Obama`s Marxism agenda. You have got to be better than that.
- http://christiancitizenshipforum.blogspot.com/ OneCitizenOfTheRepublic
  
  I was a Ronald Reagan State convention
  delegate in 1976. I under what it is see incompetent men selected over great
  men. Ford was no Ronald Reagan. For 30 years I’ve voted for the better of the
  two…bottom of the barrel candidates. And it has only gotten worse. The last two
  cycles we have been given a choice between Marxists and (to be
  kind)…Moderates like McCain and Romney. Not a conservative choice of any kind.
  
  Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is truly
  insanity. Until the whole of the people wake up to what is happening, they will
  continue down this road to ruin.
  
  I would have thought that by now, EVERYONE would have figured out just how bad Obama’s
  Marxist/Fascist ideology is for this nation…but no. There is still a majority
  of people who still don’t get it. And even though some of them may vote for
  Romney, they still don’t understand why they should…they just want
  “something” different.
  
  The truth is, unless we are able to make more people understand WHY
  Progressivism (Marxism and Fascism/ Socialism/ Communism is harmful…we will
  only find ourselves here again in 2016. Because in order to save our nation, austerity
  will need to severe…to pay down our debt and still fully fund all the
  entitlements is impossible. All too many of our people here in the USA are
  currently not much better than those in Greece.
  
  There will be violence…unless we can get it through their heads first…that
  we’ve been deceived lied to and now the piper must be paid. They will be taken
  down a dark alley where (well meaning) thugs are now going to beat the crap out
  of entitlements spending to save us economically…and it is going to hurt.
  
  As I said, I would have thought by now that virtually all Americans would have
  had their “ah ha” moment of clarity and realized that Obama’s redistribution
  of wealth is not going to work, that it has never worked, and never will. But
  the fact remains…all too many still don’t get it…and they still vote.
  
  If Obama is elected, (a truly disgusting thought) then the pain in the next one
  or two years will be so great, even those who worship him will be demanding he
  be removed. There is more than enough legal cause to impeach him…already. If
  we get a conservative House AND Senate it should be straight forward. Holder
  and Obama are toast.
  
  However, if we just don’t re-elect him…he and all his kind will be waiting in
  the grass for 2016…when all those entitlement folks will vent their wrath
  against the austerity measures…and he’ll be right back (or someone even
  worse.)
  
  If we fail now to tell the GOP, “hell no, we won’t go” they will just
  continue to do what they have always done…present us with under qualified,
  unqualified, incompetent, irresponsible choices.
  
  No one who has a brain wants Obama in office another day. But the alternatives
  must be considered…with reason, not just emotion. There are no easy answers.
  The solutions will be painful. But unless the majority of Americans are FORCED
  to see the light…they will only return Progressives to office in 2016. And
  Romney is better than Obama by a large factor…but he also is no Ronald
  Reagan…not by any measure.
  
  Once we get control of both the House and Senate…it will be easy enough to
  put the spotlight on Obama and his ilk…and begin a cleansing of his ideology
  in front of the public…in the bright light of day that has been missing in
  our government for many years…
  
  We will have opportunity to make him the world’s largest piñata…exposing his
  every misdeed to the public. But if he in no longer president…how will we do
  that? He and his kind (Progressives) will just slink away and wait until 2016.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PHPOPW6PYGL5JJX4HAOC5WT2CM Constance
  
  We will have to have republican senators go see Sheriff Joe who has all that information because they would have standing and bring him to court. We must not re-elect Obama because there is no one who has the guts to call him out. If Romney doesn’t we can de-elect the republicans or those we placed in to do something about this. Obama will have failed to bring us down and Soros won’t be funding him anymore. I still believe we have to vote in Romney even though he threw Ron Paul off a cliff. If we have any more executive orders and more spending before people want change, it may be TOO LATE! We are broke and no one wants to hear about this. Our nation is in great trouble. Romney should include all republicans who have the same goals – clean up the mess that has been going on for years.
- antiglobalist
  
  Constance, A real disappointing thing happens after you elect a rupicon. They all have lost their spine and have no appatite to represnt those that hired them. Most refer to that as betrayal.
- kalamawashington
  
  “If we have any more executive orders…..” I am hoping that we have a rash of executive orders shortly after Romney is elected, revoking most of the EO’s that Obama did.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Rhonda-Reichel/1339255666 Rhonda Reichel
  
  they both support TARP, NDAA, imperial foreign policy, and the patriot act….no difference between Obama & Romney
- antiglobalist
  
  You could support Dr Paul. I did not hold my nose when I did.
- http://christiancitizenshipforum.blogspot.com/ OneCitizenOfTheRepublic
  
  Not to be misunderstood. I would never vote for Ron Paul. Although he has some great financial ideas…his international policy and some other aspects of his platform…are over the hill and beyond common sense. I only say that Romney is totally wrong to deny them their right to be heard. Once you start down that road…where does it end?
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Rhonda-Reichel/1339255666 Rhonda Reichel
  
  socialism….like Romneycare
- nvrat
  
  You have stated it correctly. The people need to learn that progressives (Communists I call them) have got to be eliminated from our political system because of the damage they have and will continue to do the the country. I realize that this will probably take at least 2 generations but, it must be done. Those of us who want to live in a Republic under the Constitution and Bill of Rights as written by our fore fathers must take on the challenge and right the wrong. I`m not sure that this is practical at this point in time because of the reasons you have mentioned. Education, I believe, is the answer but, we all know the problem there and that is a Progressive governments involvement in our Education system at the lowest and highest levels and, combining that with social entitlements seems an almost imposable task. So again we vote for the one that is the least damaging. Thanks OneCitizen for the response.
- antiglobalist
  
  PROPAGANDA
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Rhonda-Reichel/1339255666 Rhonda Reichel
  
  how you play the game matters
- antiglobalist
  
  You could do the same thing the rest of the conservatives do, hold your nose while you vote.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Jan-Conroy/100000695756376 Jan Conroy
  
  I think that the Ron Paul supporters did this to themselves with all their talk about taking over the convention and forcing the nomination of Ron Paul down everyone’s throats. This is all I have heard from the Paulbots for months, how they plan through stealth to take over. Well, the adults decided that this was not going to happen in Tampa and started decertifying the Paulbots. Since the Paulbots decided not to play nice, they got the boot. They have no one to blame but themselves. They could have had a seat at the table, but they threw it away for a power play and lost. Immature jackasses!
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Rhonda-Reichel/1339255666 Rhonda Reichel
  
  thuggish behavior is on the Robamney camp….not Paul’s
- PatriotDiva
  
  Ron Paul was concentrating on getting delgates because that is how a president is elected. This was in no way a “stealth” takeover. Ron Paul was playing fair and square and following the rules. The establishment has had that rule book for a very long time and didn’t think they had to follow it. Then when Ron Paul started to win a significant number of delegates the establishment played dirty. Clearly the “grownups” are NOT in Romney’s camp! The GOP has consistently and systematically tried to shut out Ron Paul’s supporters from the very beginning. I have to ask, what is it the establishment is afraid of?????
- drivenout
  
  Jan, you will have your just deserts. I cannot wait to you and the establishment get yours and Obama hands you your ass. I dislike Obama, but I dislike cheating in our own party even more. We will prevail and people like you will be relegated to a tiny tyranny that desperately tried to hold the system in place. This will take years, but our voice for liberty will prevail.
- jlbs
  
  The way I read this, Romney didn’t remove the delegate; the Mass. RNC did.
- http://christiancitizenshipforum.blogspot.com/ OneCitizenOfTheRepublic
  
  Oh, Romney is going to allow the Mass DNC to wear the pants for this presidential candidate…now that show real leadership.
- jagans
  
  Beginning to sound like buying a model T. Yes sir you can have any color you want, as long as its black.
- Nomittens
  
  This is how Romney operates and now he has chosen a running mate who will continue on the same path as the current administration. Ryan’s voting record speaks volumes of who and what he is and stands for!
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Carol-Fryer/100000156546455 Carol Fryer
  
  This is all Ive seen through this whole election…..the RNC stealing votes and now whining the dems will steal theirs. Talk about smoke screens. Ive said from day one ill write in Ron Paul and still hold to that. To me Romney acts and talks like a rino. I know it irritates rinos because all they want is to hold onto their thrones. Ive had enough though. Ill vote against them all the way, not dem…..they are worst criminals. But Ive watched them cover for each other through this whole process. Not one so called conservative actually even attempts to look into Obamas sealed records, which tells me allot.
http://www.facebook.com/john.duzan.5 John Duzan

For the first time ever I agree with something out of Mass. Why should an anti-American with views almost identical to Obama get any delegates to the Republican Convention? Anti-Americans with liberal views should run on the dimwit ticket where they have similar views.
- David R. (Canada)
  
  Are you saying that you think Ron Paul is anti-American? Do you even know or understand what his platform is?
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  - Auditing the Fed.
  - Preventing the President from getting involved in wars without the approval of the whole government.
  - Protecting internet freedom, and by extension, freedom of speech.
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  You consider this to be anti-American? You think these ideas are almost identical to Obama’s?
- http://www.facebook.com/john.duzan.5 John Duzan
  
  Anybody who blames America for 9/11 is anti-American.
- http://www.facebook.com/fruhoff Keith Liberty
  
  Romney the Baby Killer….Ron Paul the Baby Doctor……
- http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown
  
  actually it’s a person that knows their history and knows that our politicians should have kept their nose in our own business, just like George Washington advised in his farewell speech. I’m guessing you never read that or know the history behind why 9-11 happened, which is why you are making such an ignorant statement.
- robert
  
  he’s saying paul people are too hungry for attention like obama, this is about the romney ticket now, and grown-ups and good americans unite, we’ve heard what paul has said, he made some good points, but when you lose you should do it with grace, you are not acting gracefully, which is a trait you seem to be sharing with obamas people, which some people would consider un- american
- http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown
  
  robert, denying your principles and endorsing a guy thatt ist he opposite of you is not grace, it’s hypoccrisy.
- skeezix
  
  John
  Honestly which views iterated by Dr Paul do you consider anti American?