Sneaky Dems Attempt Gun Control In CyberSecurity Bill

Democrat Senators have offered an amendment to the cybersecurity bill that would limit the purchase of high capacity gun magazines. May I ask what in the world high capacity gun magazines have to do with cybersecurity? I already know. They have nothing to do with it, but this is how our Congress works.

However, with this particular amendment, S.A.2575, was sponsored by Democrats Frank Lautenberg (N.J.), Barbara Boxer (Calif.), Jack Reed (R.I.), Bob Menendez (N.J.), Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.), Schumer and Dianne Feinstein (Calif.). These liberal Senators are looking to make it illegal to transfer or posses large capacity devices that feed guns more than 10 rounds with the exception of .22 caliber rim fire ammunition. Apparently you can have a thousand round drum of those on your weapon and you’re ok.

The amendment is identical to a different bill that was sponsored by Frank Lautenberg.

In the first place, the stupid thing about the law is that it would only affect these devices that were sold or transferred after the law took effect. So people they are afraid of can still legally own these, just as long as they got them before the law was in effect. That makes absolutely no sense.

Chuck Shumer, the New York Democrat, and yes this is the same New York that gave the country the likes of Mayor Michael Bloomberg, was pushing for passage of this amendment.

“Maybe we could come together on guns if each side gave some,” Schumer said.

Mr. Schumer seems oblivious that the only people that have compromised are Republicans and frankly they need to stop compromising. That’s what gets us into this mess in the first place. The gun control laws on the books are the result of Democrats calling for more gun control and Republicans caving to that demand. The more we compromise, the further left we drift.

I think we can find common ground. Stop making new gun control laws Mr. Schumer. The government has tens of thousands of gun laws on the books now and they don’t stop all the things you claim they will stop.

“The basic complaint is that the Chuck Schumers of the world want to take away your guns,” Schumer said of the argument made by gun lobbies. “I think it would be smart for those of us who want rational gun control to make it know that that’s not true at all.”

It is true. Liberals like Chuck Schumer think that by disarming the population they can get a better handle on crime and control the people. What they fail to see is that the very people they are out to stop do not adhere to their laws, which is why they are called criminals. That’s C-R-I-M-I-N-A-L-S. As Rush says, “For those in Rio Linda” that means they are guilty of a crime, which means they violate the law. They disregard it. They oppose the law. The law simply defines who the criminals are and in this case, with this amendment, people, such as myself, who would seek to purchase a magazine for their Glock, or 1911 or AR-15 that would have more than 10 rounds, would become a criminal. See how that works?

“We can debate where to draw the line of reasonableness, but we might be able to come to an agreement in the middle,” Schumer said. “Maybe, maybe, maybe we can pass some laws that might, might, might stop some of the unnecessary casualties … maybe there’s a way we can come together and try to break through the log jam and make sure the country is a better place.”

OK, there are a lot of ‘maybes’ and ‘mights’ in Schumer’s statements here. “Mights” and “Maybes” are what the left always use to try and push their agenda. There is never a definitive “this will work and here’s how.”This kind of argument is emotional, not logical. The only way this will “make the country a better place” is for people like Charles Schumer to stay out of the gun marketplace and allow Americans the ability to purchase a weapon of choice for whatever they intend to use it for, whether it is hunting or sport shooting or self defense.

While Schumer also decried assault weapons and said that average Americans didn’t need such a weapon to go hunting or protect themselves, he is not to determine such things. Tell that to the victims of the tyrannical government under Bill Clinton and Janet Reno that brought bloodshed in both Waco, TX and Ruby Ridge for no real reason or threat. Americans should be able to purchase whatever weapons are on the market. Laws are in place to make sure that legal transactions are checked thoroughly. Those criminals that are intent on getting high capacity magazines are going to do it despite Schumer and the Democrats passing a million laws and the law-abiding citizens are the ones that will pay for their stupidity.

This bill is set to be voted on next week.

Here’s a montage of what Capitol Hill has to say about gun control. I think you’ll find Sen. Schumer’s call for limiting the Second Amendment in contradiction to his above claims.




  • concerned

    It is too bad that those proposing gun controls don’t look at what happened in
    Australia. Crime went up not down and for some reason they are not able to understand why. One city in the US has the requirement that everyone in the city who is responsible have a gun and gun crime is almost non existent in that city.

    • rivahmitch

      The worse criminals are the politicians. Surely you don’t expect them to approve any measure that might decrease their ability to steal.

    • auhunter

      Yes, Kenesaw, Georgia, 1 murder since 1982

  • Etaurus9mm

    They want our guns, so they can continue in their ways, getting away with all they do.

  • joe

    What kind of sneaky bastards are serving this country? These dems should all be arrested and locked up for life.

  • Harvey

    I don’t think the framers of our Constitution ever considered 100 load magazines when they wrote the 2nd amendment.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Ferrell/100000320220630 Robert Ferrell

      When I see a statement like that it just makes me wonder just how many people actually understand OUR U.S. History. Harvey, you TOTALLY missed the point of the 2nd Amendment!!!!!!!!!

    • fableraye

      We are protecting ourselves from the government that believes they can be tyrants against us, the citizens.

    • bossman

      a 100 round magazine is already illegal, what new law stops this again?

    • Gregg Weber

      I’m glad the British Army didn’t have more of those Ferguson Rifles. Then, as now, our freedoms would depend on flintlocks vs. advanced weapons.

    • omgic

      They would have if they also knew of the worthless slime we have in government today!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-Vier/1532882262 Jack Vier

    They really do think that we are all stupid don’t they?
    Get ready for a fight and soon. They will keep pushing until we push back. Step one is the election. I pray to God that it puts a stop to them and their socialist schemes.
    They do not want us to go to step 2.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Ferrell/100000320220630 Robert Ferrell

      Well stated!

    • omgic

      Jack, i agree. If half of the gun owners in this country stand up for step 2 that would be a militia of 35 million…a viable force.

    • pete

      if you decide to fight the U.S. goverment you and your fellow patriots will be on the receiving end of spectre gun ships M1 abrams , apache attack heilcopters to name a few of their wepons systems . how will you counter them with semiatuto rifles piststols and shotguns?you must be kidding right? please just vote . check out your reps. and vote for freedom guns will not stop them.

    • auhunter

      But there are a lot of us out here that used that same equipment before we left the military, know what and what not are their capabilities

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KRK7Q7ZNT75UVU43DHR5DCR5L4 nmgene

      80% of the military and police will be on the peoples side. There are many ways to win a war with out having heavy artillary!!!!!!!!! Just take a look at afghanistan!!!!!

    • Breeze13

      The U.S. military will be on OUR side. Anyway, tell that to the Viet Cong, and Afgans.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KRK7Q7ZNT75UVU43DHR5DCR5L4 nmgene

      there are over 100 million known legal gun owners!!!!!!!! obumer is the best gun salesman who ever lived!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • concerned

    Most of the people talking right now wouldn’t know an assault rifle if they saw one. Too bad they don’t really get educated before they start their mouth working.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CLKQVZO4MVLS5ZVRGD4E2VY7Y Tom

    When they outlaw large capacity mags, then only the criminals will have them. CRIMINALS don’t obey the law..

  • VictorLandry

    The most dangerous place in America is between Chucky Shumer and a television camera.

  • thecelt1

    The large capacity magazines for rifles (THE 100 ROUND MAGAZINE stated by Diane Feinstein) DO NOT EXIST. This is typical of Feinstein. Talk big and loud so the public can’t hear the LIE.

  • Harold

    These fools are the bigest threat to America. They are a bigger threat than Nazi Germany was during WW2. We knew who the enemy was then!

    • HappyClinger

      And we know who it is today: Anyone who doesn’t want us to be able to protect ourselves.

  • lew

    YOU WANT WAR? I’LL GIVE YOU WAR!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BBO2Q2QDRBPJHAL65X2E3YA5KA GregoryP

    The anti-gunners will always be back for more. No more compromises. Let Dems figure out how to get criminals and linatics to follow the laws we have instead of turning them lose on our streets.

  • Ken

    Schumer’s view is that if he keeps making demands, and the Republicans keep compromising with him, he’ll get everything he wants, just a little slower. The question to be asked of him is–”What present gun restrictions would you be willing to abolish in return for the new regulations you want?”

    • Poppo

      Besides that, he can complain that the Repubs won’t work with him! Then the liberal bullsnit media will agree.

  • Sharky

    Shumer is a total frigging lunatic – power hungey mf

    • winlockmike

      If friogging chuckie wants my guns and ammo I want him to come get it.

  • m2plaid

    This is why bills should be stand alone with no hidden agenda or amendments in them.
    And what can you expect from NYS Upchuck and his Parrot Kristen Gillibrat?
    They represent the party not the people.

    • acer561

      Yes they also can go quickly too!

    • GrumpyOleMan

      Then after all this time, why haven’t they?

    • unwillingvictime

      Actually it’s very simple, corruption. They have the money and more and more episodes are coming out of voting fraud. Unfortunately one is from where I am from and here it is very easy to get votes. Unless there are differences in a major issue or two, the same people seem to always get in. Unfortunately, the longer they are there, the harder it is to get them out. Crazy as it is, you always hear the same ones who vote for them constantly complain about what is going on. It is hard for people to change the devil you know. The one time a lot of people voted for change, they got it! History will remember this as the worst administration ever. He has already set a new mark for a sitting president for lying. Since the justice department is under his control, not enough people have the guts to do anything about it.

    • 9Spoon9

      Gosh “m2″…sounds like you’re expecting BHO to honor his TRANSPARENCY Pledge. You, I and 99+% of the folks here realize that these SOBs will stop at nothing short of their last heartbeat with efforts to counter the 2nd Amendment and the in-born traits of self-defense given unto us by the Maker!

      I do not believe Washington bureaucratz understand how really pizz’d off citizens…not just gun-owning citizens are. We’ll have to wait until the Polls close in November to see how many of the folks here and on other pro-Constitution sites as well as the “non-involved” put their marks on the ballots to match where their mouths are. Scary proposition, but we’ve got to begrudgingly wait until that time.

      If everyone registered on this site would openly lambast their 3 DC officials in an ongoing manner every time they stepped out of line…it might help. It did aide with the “holdbacks” in the Senate to reach 51 signatories to the Letter to Clinton and BHO that stymied the ATT.

      When all else fails, we’ll have to get truly down and dirty in the trenches and recall or better yet…physically remove them from the Chamber. We may revisit and relive the original Declaration of Independence sent to the former tyrant, King George.

      An overhaul is long past due and a complete reconstruction may occur if they back the “angry animals” (as they see their constituencies) into spots and corners when the “animals” do what is to be naturally expected. It may get Ugh-Lee!

      We may not have to wait too much longer for this Republic to implode due to the pinnacles of debt achieved over the last three and one-half years. The world economy is still dependent upon America to lead the way, despite the devaluation of USD and credit worthiness of the USA. Many smaller or less-advanced nations are highly dependent on “donations” given so loosely from our Treasury to their governments. European countries are also buried to their collective necks in the squalor of debt.

      The face and demography of and on the Big Blue Marble may soon begin a metamorphosis of unfathomable measures and proportions. Once again…we’ll see, like it or not. Be prepared for the worst and hope/pray for the best.

      Spoon USAF Retired
      Rural MO

    • brianjconway

      Then with the Lords help their actions will take them to theirlast heartbeat.

    • m2plaid

      Spoon:: yes I do demand transparency. There is none in current ‘politics’.
      Actions are based on ideology and not in the best interests of we the people or the country.
      The majority of the republicrats and democans (they’re all the same) do not respect the constitution or their constituency. This goes down to state and local levels as well.
      All the more reason we must:
      TAKE THE SENATE
      HOLD THE HOUSE
      EVICT THE WHITE HOUSE OCCUPANT!!!

    • 9Spoon9

      AGREED!

    • Richard

      stand alone bill, that should be passed into law ASAP, no adding anything to it, 1 item / topic to 1 bill PERIOD…..

    • brianjconway

      Eggzackly. A+

  • O

    Low life scum, with Gun control, only the criminals will have guns, and I will be a criminal. I will fight to the death against a Government that would supress our lives so that we may be taken over by another. Kill the tyrants.

    • MR.RIGHT

      O, I’m with you; I will not live in this communists ‘Ameritopia’ I would rather die fighting against this marxist/muslum then to suffer under his tyranny. Lock and load WE THE PEOPLE its time to take back our country. And yes there will be bloodshed…of the marxists/communists that now occupy our government.

    • Mark Pickett

      Count me in….

  • Glenn

    They should lead by example an have their security teams give their guns up first!

    • Mick

      I’ll second that

    • Truth Sayer

      And after that I STILL won’t give up my guns.

    • http://www.facebook.com/david.celaschi David Celaschi

      AMEN

    • georgetheclown

      You GUN NUTS are just that. N_U_T_S!!!!!

    • William

      You really are a clown, aren’t you. Any relationship to the Aurora “Joker”?

    • jpcec

      Thank you George…I do choose to be a live gun nut if assaulted. What’s your plan?

    • hpinnc

      It’s not us who are nuts, it’s the people like you who would ban guns altogether if they could.You don’t seem to realize when you outlaw guns,only outlaws will have them.If we did away with guns that kill people, what is the next thing to go,CARS? Well they kill a lot of people.I say if more people had guns & started shooting some these criminals,you might see less crimes, espeacially if the criminals thought there was a pretty good chance he may be shot while trying to commit the crime.You go ahead & give up your gun,I believe I want to keep mine for protection.

    • triple t

      hey we all have weapons because a cop is to heavy to carry and you have to feed them

    • AlarmBelle

      How true. lol. Cops don’t come to help you until ‘after’ the crime. Before the crime is comitted; there’s no law broken.
      Just making it “EQUAL” by owning my own guns.
      Thought liberals were all for EQUALITY?????

    • AlarmBelle

      Grow up. Your name-calling only response shows your lack of any intellectual educated knowledge of the issue. THAT is the best you can do?
      Check out our govt’s OWN WEBSITE; CDC; which reports on deaths and causes.
      MORE folks die from drowning in pools than are killed by guns. (Wanna ban pools?)
      MORE folks die at hands of hospitals and doctors than die by guns. (Wanna ban drs and hospitals?)
      Liberalism—-a brother to marxism, socialism, and communism. The ‘isms’ are never positive; but always ‘negative’ and wicked!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Fannin/100000639121063 Bill Fannin

      Funny that you trust government statistics. The government fabricates phony stats to promote their current agenda. Fact is, armed people stop crimes. Why do cops carry guns? Criminals don’t usually attach armed citizens, they run from them. Hundreds of cases are reported every year of armed citizens preventing crime and defending themselves against robery and murder.

    • http://www.facebook.com/bernardo.giansomo Bernardo Giansomo

      OK, don’t own one if you don’t like guns,nobody cares if you choose to never defend yourself should the need arise. Let’s hope that never happens to you but if it ever did and you survived,I’ll bet money, marbles, or chalk, that you’ll head for the nearest gun store and go shopping. Your loved ones will thank your change of ideology after being beaten and raped then lived to tell about it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Horton/100000278827311 Jeff Horton

      George when your neighbor saves your or someone in your family’s beacon. With a gun due to an intrusion will you still feel that way. the Media is not reporting on the Black on white hate crimes due they feel that It would be politically incorrect. Look who has the power in third world countries The criminals and why? They have the guns and regular people can do nothing.

    • http://www.facebook.com/michael.pope.5454 Michael Pope

      …and this is coming from a person whose sign on name is “George the clown.”

    • AfricanWarrior

      Such gun laws would not create a safer environment, they would merely give rise to yet another criminal enterprise, and as a result create a more dangerous environment.
      One need merely examine the statistical data generated by the ill conceived Drug Laws. 90% plus of all gun violence in America today can be directly tied to those ill conceived laws, not to weapons lawfully obtained by law abiding citizens.
      To create yet another criminal enterprise would only serve to increase the violence, as well as the coffers of the Liberal Nazi Politicians who seek to deceive the people into supporting them. They are the true puppets for the Criminal Cartels.

    • http://www.facebook.com/david.celaschi David Celaschi

      Look at the statistics of AUSTRALIA after they confiscated some 250,000 weapons of their law abiding citizens-They for got to take the crimminals weapons away-ALL CRIMES WENT UP A MINIMUN OF25% ALL CRIMES!

    • aberdeem

      Let us agree to disagree

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Thompson/100000987582634 Michael Thompson

      Provided you dont fondle the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution, no problem!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Coyotecanyon-Badger/100003253929171 Coyotecanyon Badger

      I wonder how many of them own guns? They do. It was a rhetorical question. You can bet that if they want ours they already have theirs.

  • noelle2011

    This is why ITS TIME TO GET RID OF BOTH PARTIES AND FIGHT THIS!

    • mesaman

      How do you propose to do this? I would like to respond to your remedies.

    • http://www.facebook.com/von.fileccia Von Fileccia

      Mr. Right….I agree with you. The bad people always manage to get guns w/o having to be fingerprinted, have a doctors letter that states your sane, take gun classes, and pay. So if the bad people have the guns, there will be more burglery, killing, and raping. If we keep our guns…..then the bad guys lose their lives.

    • mesaman

      I see your approach to be reasonable, perhaps incomplete. As a retired clinical psychologist, I can assure you that the average doctor (who may have few contact hours of mental health training) is really encapable of making the sanity decision. Mental health experts are not a guarantee that every potential murderer will be identified. The best solution; buy a weapon, learn how to use it, respect it, and practice with it frequently. Get a concealed weapon permit then hope you never have to fire on another human.

    • Scoped Out

      And once you start the program of “Knowledgabel Carry” you will discover (what we who do have known) that Gun People are the nicest and most polite people in the crowd. Visit the local “Shooting Range” (eg gun club) to meet some of the “good ole boys” that love their guns (and may or may not cling to their bibles but definitely believe in treating everyone with courtesey!

    • mesaman

      I really appreciate your comments. I should have thought of it but you are entirely right. We do try to be personable and courteous and, I might add, it is extremely contagious.

    • aberdeem

      There is nothing wrong with clinging to your Bible. God Bless

    • Traphill25

      You hear every day of liberal judges turning these rapist, killers loose!!

    • MR.RIGHT

      First of all guns don’t kill people. There are no bad guns, if a good person owns a gun, they are in no way a threat to anyone except a bad person period. If guns kill people, then a spoon made you fat, pencils misspell words, and your car got into the accident. whats next take away all your utencils no forks, knives, axes, shovels, butcher knives? oh and by the way we better cut off everyones hands too… the last time I checked you can kill someone with your bare hands. Hope they come to my house and try to take my gun…I’ll be glad to give it to them muzzle end first.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EQ4NKPCK73TK3SI7XJ7D7OAXBA duane a.

      You are correct–I put my “GUN” on the table and left it there all night while my friends and i had a BBQ. At no time during the evening did i or anyone see my “GUN” get up off the table run across the room and shoot anyone. 62 million gun owners in American shot no one today.

    • Traphill25

      It is more like 150 million gun owners. And about 500 million guns. Who will the government send to get yours??? They better bring a lot of body bags because at least 75 million of those gun owners will not give them up. They are well armed, well equipted, well trained in weapons and tactics!! I have seen that number increase radically under this commie administration! People do not trust this president, and they should not!!!

    • GrumpyOleMan

      And every time that commie fool OBozo opens his mouth, ten more guns are legally purchased. Some would conclude there is a correlation.

    • Traphill25

      Might be a correlation…..ya think!!!! Ammo factories are running 24/7, guns and ammo are going up faster than the price of gold!!

    • chet

      Like Charlton said,”They’ll have to take it from my cold dead hands”

    • quickdraw kid

      I wish gun owners,would STOP! Saying THAT! It makes us ALL.of us! Appear ,like a bunch of Nuts!!We are,Law abiding,responseable! Gun owners. Live in the Real World.When the swat team comes?they Will,get your Gun! From your,Dead hand? NO Problem!

    • big wyo

      swat team members have families to take care of same as everyone else

    • Recon

      Have you considered all the service men that have been discharged that are fully trained and have experience in combat, I’m sure that most of them have guns as do I. I served and am trained. RECON. I love my country but do not like what they are doing to it. Since they force you to use an email address I WILL USE ONE OF SOMEONE THAT I KNOW. DON’T WANT THE FEDS COMING TO MY DOOR PREMATURELY.

    • http://www.facebook.com/eileen.pressler Eileen Pressler

      My Hungarian friend who escaped during the futil and bloody revolution so long ago said, the had us when the disarmed the population. Don’t let it happen in America. AMEN

    • big wyo

      I like the way you think!! But why wait for them to come get them. Give them up at the first signs of confiscation to people that started the problem.

    • michigan patriot

      I have been preaching that for years I have never seen a gun load itself and shoot anyone or anything unless it was controlled by a human being. Hooters don’t make men like big chests, pencils don’t misspell words, keyboards don’t misspell words, computers do not make mistakes either garbage in garbage out, anyway you get the point and I agree totally. during deer season here in MI 700=750,000
      hunters in the woods with only 1or 4 deaths caused by guns
      all the rest by heart attacks or stupidity

    • mr_bad_example

      i have at least 3 loaded guns in each room of my home, i have lived here over 20 years and nobody has been shot, then again, nobody has broken into my home to provoke me to shoot them.

    • http://www.facebook.com/michael.pope.5454 Michael Pope

      I agree why is it called “gun control”, my firearms are controlled, my finger is off trigger until ready to shoot, I keep it pointed in a safe direction, and it remains unloaded until ready to use, which is always since they are for personal protection. Why aren’t we trying to control the insane people instead of trying to control the guns?

    • danimal

      if I put all my guns on the table, ther won’t be any room for food. it would take them days to find my stash, thats IF they could get out of the grasp my 70lb pitt bull, she likes fresh meat

    • AmericaFirst

      I don’t know how many gun owners there are, but there are over 300 million guns in the hands of Americans…more than our military!!! The Government want these guns cause you can’t be a dictator with less guns than the people. God Bless America….God, Guns and Groceries!!!

    • michigan patriot

      I’m with you. if the dog don’t get them the open end of the muzzle will they just have to smile before the flash

    • dave heatherly

      Whe nthey hit you with the gas you’re out then what sparky, have you seen the new incapacitating sound weapons they’ve developed, you’re a complete idiot if you think you can stop a Government with a trillion invested in weaponery at it’s disposal

    • Truth Sayer

      True, the military has better weapons than “we” do. All the more reason not to give up the good ones we have.

    • HawkCW4

      And if you believe this Government, as bad as it is right now under Obama will actually mount up those weapons and come after Americans? Do you suggest Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Shumer, Boxer, Franken, Holder, or any other ultra lib will be at your door to take your guns? Because I can tell you, Not a single military man/woman will be. Laws dont mean a thing in this country, UNLESS someone is willing to enforce them, and Obama chooses which he enforces, and if a law dont exist to suit their needs at the time, they will skew it to their needs. I used to hear the term, Equal Justice Under The Law. There is no Equal Justice and has never been for decades. The Justice system is as broke as our out of touch congress is. We dont have a president we have a quasi dictator. We Americans are no longer represented in DC, we are being exploited by a growing number of anti Americans out for their own personal greed.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kelvin.jones1 Kelvin Jones

      Currently in the Army. Can tell you that with as indoctrinated as many of our troops are approximately 60% will open fire on citizens if given the order. And the sad thing is thats best odds, most likely will be 80% and thats here in Wyoming. In basic and AIT soldiers are programmed to obey orders without thought or question. They are drilled that only legal and constitutional orders will be given. If that order comes down they will not think, they will not question they will do. As was done at Kent State University in 1970, Waco Texas, Ruby Ridge, Wounded Knee, and many many more.

    • Rick

      That would be like a bunch of farmers taking on the greatest military power in the world back in the 1700s. Sheer lunacy!

    • 1776dejavu

      good point, I like the sarcasm!

    • Lyklastsamurai

      300 Spartans…..

    • danstewart

      Do you really think the military will fire on their own people?? I think if this happens the military will be on our side.

    • jpcec

      Al Queda with it’s rag tag militias, in recent history just as the Viet Cong back in the 1960s, did a pretty effective job against a government with a trillion invested in weaponry. Never underestimate the power of guerrilla warfare when executed properly.

    • michigan patriot

      Well Dave I guess if they send the full military to my house to see if I have any weapons then they really must be afraid of me Don’t think that will happen if it does the first one through the door will see the flash but I don’t think they will just start going door to door with tanks and navy seal or S.Ops teams throwing. tear gas and smoke grenades.

    • big wyo

      They have families to defend and will to need if they take up arms against their fellow Americans.

    • pikemaster1

      Let s not forget about doctors, they kill more people ever year by far than all the gun put together, That just goes to show you how stupid the Dems in office that are trying to push this thru are ! God Bless.

    • http://www.facebook.com/eileen.pressler Eileen Pressler

      Especially abortionists. Remember Tonya and 18 Michigan Ave. Planned Parenthood. Justive for Tonya and esplecially black women.

    • jpcec

      Pikemaster, with all due respect to you sir, Don’t be naive enough to think Democrats are stupid. Schumer and his allies know exactly what they are doing and how to game and work the system. These are the same people, who for years have been very successful at whittling away at the second amendment and the rights it guarantees. Take Chuck Schumer and his ilk very seriously. If they had their way, you wouldn’t be able to own a BB gun legally.

    • pikemaster1

      jpcec There is NO one more aware of how they work than me. I’m a life time NRA member and navy vet.and carry a gun 24/7 I have a CPL and have been and instructor for the MI DNR .Naive is not what I am by any means. what I was saying is that the dumb Dem. in office think we the people are naive. They may underestimate us and that will be their downfall.They also think that they are wining the fight ,but the American people are buying more guns now than ever before.The Schumer type will soon be out of office for their views .I’m not saying all of them ,but many have had enough Dem.,Rep. etc.that hunt shoot and just want to be able to protect themselves and thier families.The ones in office that don’t uphold the 2nd.Adim and the Constitution that they are sworn to uphold ,will soon be gone ! Never give up the fight to save America . God Bless !

    • pikemaster1

      have wrote back to you .You may want to know my views of the report.Thanks for your responce God Bless

      Subject: [freedomoutpost] Re: Sneaky Dems Attempt Gun Control In CyberSecurity Bill

    • Repcon1945

      If I remember right it was this same government that taught me to use an M-1 Garand when I was in basic training for the Air Force back in the sixties, and in the 47 years since that training I haven’t shot anybody and none of my guns did either. Before I buy a gun I make sure they haven’t by running the serial number through the local police. On the one time I should have used it, I was caught off guard and answered the door without one in hand, that will never happen again. Come to my house to rob me and you will meet my friends Smith & Wesson.

    • mammamoonbeam

      Guns don’t kill people. People kill people. WITH GUNS!

    • GrumpyOleMan

      Yes, and Republicans are almost as bad now.

    • Lyklastsamurai

      You can say that again, they’ve forgotten what freedom, free markets & constitutional government did for America & they don’t have any spine…….

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1460662957 Joe Horenkamp

      noelle – There are Dem progressives, and Rep RINOs, they are one in the same. For the last three years the tea party people have been trying to get rid of as many of these as possible. Get involved with your local tea party organization…

    • http://www.facebook.com/eileen.pressler Eileen Pressler

      You are right but, let’s get rid of the DimoRATS first andthen have a plan for replacing the Rinos and or the Republican Party if necessary. We the people are sick of this & not gonna take it anymore.

    • http://www.facebook.com/david.celaschi David Celaschi

      Democrats –see last 5 letters

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rebecca-Roth/1266837704 Rebecca Roth

      How do you think you would “get rid of the parties”? The parties are
      just people who have banded together to work together for a common
      cause. The group of people will reflect the individual philosophies,
      religions and choices of each individual who participates in the group
      exercising their right to vote (though the DemParty has given two votes
      to everybody in the upper echelons so that they can over-ride the
      votes of all the county votes.) Become a PCP (Precinct Committee
      Person and analyze the votes you sit through and the battles you
      engage in. Those standing on the sidelines don’t stand for anything
      because if you don’t have enough voices banded together in unison
      you can’t accomplish your goals in a voting nation. If all the independents
      band together to accomplish something then you would have another
      party. Here in OR there IS an Independent Party–which many independents
      won’t join…well, if you don’t show up to take a public stand with others

      of your persuasion, and conduct votes and take public stands, then
      you stand alone, screaming from the sidelines while others organize,
      educate, and work together to get their candidates elected. In a free
      society we have the right to associate politically with others who are
      of like mind.

  • haditinsd

    Why is it the ones trying for complete gun control are the biggest offenders of the laws we have, Biggest of all is the UN arms treaty that is in direct conflict with our constitution. Next how about the gunrunner fiasco. It starts at the very top of this administration (Obama, Holder, Hillary) and all the way through the Democratic party who all took an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. It’s about time to take a hard look at these domestic enemies who pick and choose which laws they want to hide behind while breaking others. At this level these crimes can only be described as treason.

    • noelle2011

      dont forget that the repub party ALSO had something to do with Fast and Furious!

    • parkerglp

      No, they had a similar program, but only sent in a few firearms and when they found they could not keep track of them, they abandoned the program. Holder sent in hundreds and didn’t even try to keep track because they object was to gut the second amendment!!

    • rivahmitch

      Further, their program was coordinated with the Mexican government.

    • Rosie46

      And it was closed down well before Holder and the Obama administration took over.

    • mesaman

      Put up your facts, or stuff it where the sun never shines.

    • Mike6

      Every marxist government confiscates guns to make arrests easier, and the Obama Administration is no exception. Lenin and Leon Trotsky took away weapons from the kulaks and one million innocenent peasants were murdered in the Soviet Union.

    • m2plaid

      I think you are confusing Fast & Furious with a program called Operation Wide Receiver.
      http://coffeenchat.wordpress.com/2011/10/07/operation-wide-receiver-vs-operation-fast-and-furious/
      Very different operation from F&F

    • http://twitter.com/debraraes debra steinman

      And I think YOU are confusing TRUTH with FICTION!

    • Edward53

      You’re right, m2plaid. That’s what it was called under Bush.

    • DOOM

      What republicans?

    • noelle2011

      the ones in congress that voted for the funding!
      duh!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/DH3OZOGBA4IVHQ4BH3PZTJMGZY Michael M

      You really need to take a civics class.

    • http://www.facebook.com/von.fileccia Von Fileccia

      Noelle…………….Wow….where did you get your info…..the comic books. Fast & Furious belonged strictly to the DEMS, Holder at the helm. Thats how people get riled up by the DEMS blaming it on the GOP & Bush. Too bad you believe the DEMS malarky.

    • a1NannaGail2u

      Von Felicia: I think Noelle may hae been referring to the “Wide Receiver” program under BUSH.

    • DOOM

      Only the president swears to defend the Constitution.

    • noelle2011

      NO this is NOT true! EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL SWEARS AN OATH TO PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND SO THE THE MILITARY BEFORE THEY LEAVE FOR BOOT CAMP!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/DH3OZOGBA4IVHQ4BH3PZTJMGZY Michael M

      I swore that oath before I went to bootcamp, It was explained to us in detail and is a part of me 40 years later.

    • Scoped Out

      God Bless and Sempre Fi!

    • alex

      including all judges lawyers guvnors city counsel men and anyone else that holds a public office

    • Traphill25

      Problem is we the people don’t do anything to the one’s that lie and try to destroy the Constitution. Almost every DemoRat in the Congress today have tried to destroy our Constitution, the this P

    • diana

      not just him, soliders our armed forces do thats why i don;t understand why they have not arrested ob and his thugs for TREASON, AND DON;T FORGET judges, and congress, and more take that oath

    • http://twitter.com/debraraes debra steinman

      How UNIFORMED are YOU again? The MILITARY swears to uphold and to protect the Constitution from all enemies foreign and Domestic. I know, because I am a OATHKEEPER!

    • 9Spoon9

      Debra…Maybe you need to explain to folks what OK.org is all about. Patriots…pure and simple that intend to HONOR an Oath against whomever. http://oathkeepers.org/oath/
      “Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of current and formerly serving military, reserves, National Guard, veterans, Peace Officers, and Fire Fighters who will fulfill the Oath we swore, with the support of like minded citizens who take an Oath to stand with us, to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help us God. Our Oath is to the Constitution”
      And while I’m on the subect of expanding horizons…Check out RWVA (Revolutionary War Veterans of America)…AKA The APPLESEEDers http://appleseedusa.org/.
      These instructors educate their “pupils” by providing a a lot of true historical facts intertwined with instilling proper shooting techniques/postures/considerations and do their utmost to make RIFLEMEN out of each and student in attendance. Qualifying for a Rifleman’s Badge is a daunting challenge.
      These students (male and female) range from very young to 70+yr olds. The men and women of AS provide these two-day camps for a nominal fee.
      The Green & Red Hats of AS also provide intense week-long training session to USArmy Sapper units at select locations prior to their deployments. For the Troops, THEY DO IT FOR FREE! The instructors bear the brunt of their own costs of travel, fuel, lodging and meals to enhance the effectiveness and continued the well-being of the men and women on the front lines. Everyone improves their capabilities regarding true gun control. That is, putting precious metals downrange X-actly where they want the bullet to strike.
      LOOK UP APPLESEED and consider registering at an area course near you. You will improve your knowledge of American History and should be prepred to burn 400 rounds during the weekend you attend. The programs offer much more than just marksmanship. http://appleseedusa.org/

    • A.L.

      OMG, what egg did you hatch from? You are a complete brain dead person.

    • Pakinpastor

      Well, you got an ear full! But they are correct, all Federal representatives, Congressmen and women, Senators, the cabinet, all members of the military take a very similar oath. But all of the have to sewar to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic. The problem with that, is the representatives can say that We the People are the threat to the Constitution! AND, you have to also know that there are two Constitutions! One is a Moral Constitution, and the the actual Constitution. It sickens me to think that we have come so far, and now are dying off…

  • http://www.facebook.com/raymie.connolly.7 Raymie Connolly

    I will use my powers to stand against my tyrranical government…so help me God Almighty.

    • noelle2011

      raymie one of your powers to stand against this corrupt tyrannical govt IS VOTING!
      join me in voting for 3rd party presidential candidate is virgil goode

    • Poppo

      and your protest vote is going to change what?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Ferrell/100000320220630 Robert Ferrell

      Go ahead, vote for him, and while your at know that, your like minded people ASSURE Obama a second term. How about we get through this election first than, put up a viable candadate next election….?? But don’t just hand Obama this election, if you do, there MAY NOT be another election, the way Obama throws around his executive orders and threatens “marshal law” all over the place…….

    • noitaint

      Very true, Robert. now is not the time for a third party.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ET5QPXTSHXETQEXLRXORCWRDKQ Thomas H

      You would like to have a 3rd party so your buddy obummer could get back in. What is the matter with you. We want this clown out of the white house. You know that no 3rd party candidate could ever win. Get a grip on yourself.

    • wws

      @noelle2011:disqus , The only way we’re going to regain control over the government is to work within the two party system. As has already been said, no 3d party candidate is EVER going to win the presidency as this is the only truly national election. Trying to get the entire country to go third party, while fighting the national rnc and dnc, just ain’t happening. 3rd party candidates only seem to split the conservative vote because it seems it’s only conservatives that can think for themselves and make some kind of choice. Liberals are in complete lockstep and would vote for anyone with a “D” after their name. Unfortunately, to win THIS election, we’ll need to use the same tactic. Then we all need to become more involved and fight to get TRUE conservatives elected to the House, The Senate and to Governerships. This is where the NEXT president is going to come from. Just like the liberals want to erode our second ammendment by little step, since they can’t do it with one fell swoop, we need to either win back our country with little, but noticeable, victories. Or we’ll have to do it with one fell swoop. One is peaceful, the other is not. I, for one, am ready for either.

    • Edward53

      Who in the heck is Virgil Goode? A Ron Paul look alike?

    • http://www.facebook.com/raymond.ostergren Raymond Ostergren

      A third party can only get in the way at this point ! The majority will do it with Romney ! You may not like it, just do the math. Remember you’re vote will help get rid of our King ! If you dont go with the majority and lots of others do, you and the others will not be able to forgive yourself ! I saw 4 likes and that is alarming ! To get rid of our problem we must be on the same page ! You wont get Virgil Goode !

    • Harvey

      @Raymie Connolly Another person thinking God is always on their side…. So, 100 round magazine elimination is an example of governmental tyranny?

    • bossman

      100 round mag is already illegal!

    • Rockriver556

      As will I