Romney Praises Israel’s Individual Mandated Health Care System


Mitt-Romney-via-AFPConservatives and lovers of freedom, hear me well when I point this out. I’ve told you before that Mitt Romney has given us rhetoric when it comes to the issue of the individual mandate concerning health insurance. He has told us that he wants to repeal and replace Obamacare, but with what? We haven’t heard an actual plan as of yet. We’ve heard the rhetoric, but we’ve seen the record in Massachusetts. On his recent trip we heard his praise for their health care system.

Romney’s words to Israel were:

“Do you realize what health care spending is as a percentage of the G.D.P. in Israel? Eight percent,” he said. “You spend eight percent of G.D.P. on health care. You’re a pretty healthy nation. We spend 18 percent of our G.D.P. on health care, 10 percentage points more. That gap, that 10 percent cost, compare that with the size of our military — our military which is 4 percent, 4 percent. Our gap with Israel is 10 points of G.D.P. We have to find ways — not just to provide health care to more people, but to find ways to fund and manage our health care costs.

I point this out to demonstrate that Mitt Romney while praising a health care system with an individual mandate will not lay out a clear plan of what he would replace Obamacare with. Now if he’s got an idea and it is to completely remove Obamacare and replace it with nothing, except to open up the sales of insurance across the states so that competition will drive the prices down, fine. Until then, his own record and his latest praise for a national mandated health care coverage system in Israel, can we trust him to do something different than has been proposed by Barack Obama?

The Raw Story reports,

The country’s health-care system includes an individual mandate clause, requiring citizens to buy one of four HMOs offered by the government since 1995, with the state covering 60 percent of a person’s medical costs. The remaining 40 percent is covered by income-related tax collections.

Last month, The Jewish Daily Forward reported that Israel boasts an average life expectancy of 82 years, four years more than the U.S., with half the mortality rate due to heart disease.

“I think that America can learn a lot from the Israeli system,” said one Orly Manor, dean of the Hadassah-Hebrew University Braun School of Public Health. “The quality is high, and the outcomes are good.”

Interestingly enough, the individual mandate was a big part of the health care system that Mitt Romney helped to implement as governor of Massachusetts.

Romney has already installed a flaming homosexual, Richard Grenell as his spokesman, who had to step down because his sexual perversion came under attack. Grenell promoted same-sex “marriage.” Romney put him in place and Romney claimed to be against same-sex “marriage” though his record as governor says something quite different. What does that have to do with the issue here, you ask? Simple, it presents a pattern. If you are opposed to an issue like homosexual ‘marriage,’ why on earth would you put someone as your spokesman who openly promotes it?

Mitt Romney has also installed former Utah Governor Mike Leavitt, a Mormon, to head up his presidential transition team. What’s the big deal about Leavitt? Well he was head of the EPA and Secretary of Health and Human Services under the Bush Administration. He also leads Leavitt Partners which the Cato Institute says:

Here we have the spectacle of a former Republican Health and Human Services secretary getting rich by helping states implement ObamaCare. Leavitt Partners (among other consultants) is helping states create the law’s health insurance “Exchanges.” Or the non-ObamaCare-compliant health insurance Exchanges that will by law become ObamaCare-compliant Exchanges.

These Exchanges—there is no such thing as a state-run Exchange—are the government bureaucracies that will make health insurance more expensive, induce employers to drop coverage, entrench ObamaCare, and dole out hundreds billions of debt-financed government subsidies to insurance companies.

Politico also cites Leavitt Partners as getting federal dollars to help in the implementation of Obamacare:

More than $300 million in exchange grants has already flowed into the states since the Affordable Care Act passed. That number will grow exponentially in the coming months, as states move from the initial steps of passing exchange legislation to the more lucrative task of setting them up.

For health consultants and information technology vendors, it’s already shaping up to be a gold mine…

The opportunity is, seemingly, everywhere. Even in states that have used executive orders and heated rhetoric to push back against implementation of the reform law, vendors still see possible contracts.

“There is a group that feels as though they don’t want to be associated with the Affordable Care Act,” said Leavitt Partners CEO Michael Leavitt, who was Health and Human Services secretary under President George W. Bush. “Privately, though, it’s clear that several of those are planning behind the scenes, because they don’t want to have a federal exchange.”

Now are we to assume from the record and the installation of Mr. Leavitt in a key position already and the money up for grabs in Leavitt Partners because of Obamacare that we should really expect a serious change in things when it comes to the Affordable Care Act? I’m thinking not, but then again, I’m just looking at the record, not the rhetoric here. Just look at what Politico pointed out and that’s $300 million to help set up these exchanges and said it was a veritable gold mine of which Mr. Leavitt is a huge beneficiary.

I dealt with Romney’s comments concerning Romneycare in another post and pointed out that Romneycare, though it was state mandated, used federal dollars, tax payer dollars. Romney also addressed Fox News Sunday at the time and said, “If we can do that (Romneycare) nationally,… we help the entire nation.” So understand something. The blueprint for Obamacare was Romneycare and you can call it a state mandate or a federal mandate. It doesn’t matter, because in the end the results are the same. You are required to purchase a product by the state whether you want it or not, you are penalized if you don’t get it, and both state and federal funds are used in the process.

Conservatives you better wake up to what we are being offered here and pay attention to what the record is and what is being said. It looks like ‘hoodwinking’ to me.





  • GK

    I would refer Romney to the CATO inst. plan.

  • http://www.facebook.com/larry.major.716 Larry Major

    google “Mans Country Chicago Rahm Emmanuel and Obama”

  • nax777

    It’s really Bill Clinton in a Romney suit folks.

  • A Patriot

    OK, Romney is no big bargain, but I would vote for any republican to get rid of Hussein Obama. I’ll worry about the republican later, just get the illegal alien muslim and his America hating wife out of the whitehouse.

  • dondehoff

    Most everyone is going off the “deep end”. Let us examine the Israeli health plan. For instance, just how many high tech MRI machines do they have? I recall that Chicago has more such devices than all of Canada. When making comparisons we need to be making sure of that we are comparing apples with apples. Also, I am sure there are many good ideas “out there” that we can incorporate into our medical system. We also need to keep in mind that our eating and exercise life styles varies considerably from most of the rest of the world—we are the “fattest” country in the world, and we have many medical issues that most countries do not. Romney’s approach should be that he will send out teams to explore the various medical plans in the world and then have congress set down with the medical profession and come up with the most effecient medical system in the world.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3634KFUB3TH3DIVQ2JDWYYOMPU Richard

      That would make too much sense dondehoff. That’s what an informed consumer would do. :) Seriously though, I agree! That would be a viable approach.

    • The Truth

      Well our country needs to monitor the FDA, they approve way too many chemicals and preservatives, many of which are not even tested properly, in our food that do not exist in most other countries. Our own government is not helping and in fact works against the overweight issues we have in this country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alan-Knabenbauer/1413177248 Alan Knabenbauer

    I’m NO fan of Romney but BO is very busy doing much more against the US Constitution and the people of the USA. I’d vote for mickey-mouse before I’d vote for BO and if you don’t vote at all you’ve given BO what he wants either way.

  • cama9

    Tim, this is another great article and I am so happy that you are still trying to educate the sheeple on the evils of Willard. It astounds me that people don’t care that they have lost their right to vote by a corrupt GOP who rigs elections machines so that it flips votes from Ron Paul TO Romney. How anyone can even consider voting for evil is beyond me and BOY! will they have a lot to explaining to do on the day of reckoning. I think you’ll like this article and maybe you can write something about it to wake the sheeple up. I see this blog doesn’t allow links so I’ll try it another way
    jaretglenn.wordpressDOTcom/2012/07/31/how-the-republican-party-stole-the-nomination-from-ron-paul/
    Keep up the great work! President Ron Paul 2012!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3634KFUB3TH3DIVQ2JDWYYOMPU Richard

      Cama, you are not going to get people who do not share the same opinion as you do to agree with you if you go around calling them “sheep” at worst or “uninformed” at best. Name-calling is what liberals do when they can’t support their argument. Just saying…

    • cama9

      Richard, since I didn’t refer to anyone specifically in my comment to Tim, can I gather from your comment to me that you are a Romney supporter who does not see yourself as a mere follower doing what the GOP wants you to do? Are you a rare breed of person who actually supported Willard from the start and not one of the thousands who swung with the pendulum from Bachmann to Cain to Santorum, or was originally a Newt supporter? I have supported Ron Paul’s candidacy since he announced and have been educating the masses on every blog I could as to why Ron Paul is the BEST choice to be our next President. While people were climbing aboard the CainTrain and cheering ’9-9-9′, I was explaining Ron Paul’s economic plan to cut $ONE TRILLION from the budget in the FIRST YEAR and balancing it in 3 years, while Willard thinks Paul Ryan’s plan to balance the budget in THIRTY years is great. You really think an economic plan that cuts nothing except future spending over a 10 year perios and takes 10 times longer to balance the federal budget is superior to Ron Paul’s plan? If you do, then I really do question what influenced that decision and how you could be led so easily astray. If someone is a group-think follower and cannot offer reasonable positions that oppose the facts I offer, then I consider that person a sheeple. Judge Andrew Napolitano wrote a book, ‘A Nation of Sheep’. Did that offend you? Did that turn off a lot of people? NO! HIs book did very well. In general, people don’t like being told what do to or how to act or who they must support. We don’t like that when it comes to sports and we shouldn’t do it when it comes to politics. And when the GOP openly commits election fraud and openly disregards the rules in favor of Willard, and they don’t care that Romney supporters physically attacked Ron Paul supporters or deliberately frauded the process by handing out fake slates or rigging voting machines, those people who still still support Willard in spite of this and would rather stick their fingers in their ears, shut their eyes and yammer NYA NYA NYA I won’t listen to you!, then they are acting like sheep who refuse to think for themselves. So if someone is offended by the term ‘sheeple’ that tells me there’s something inside of them that knows it’s true and they just don’t like being called out on it. I say good, maybe that type of introspection may just wake them up.

    • Edward53

      This woman is a wacko, Richard, just like Ron Paul. He’s sat in Congress, what, 30 years and he’s never accomplished one thing except for warming his seat. Everybody in Congress calls Paul Uncle Fuzzy because he’s a loon and a kook and not playing with a full deck. Seems these Paulbots have their own language and probably their own secret handshake. LOL And take my word for it….when Paul loses at the Republican Convention in Tampa watch the Paulbots start rioting and using violence. Any way, thanks, I liked your post.

  • Hank

    So would you prefer Obama, Tim?….I didn’t think so.I love Liberty too but our current health care system is broken and needs to be fixed-just NOT with Obamacare. Surely Romney knows this but if we doubt him now, the ignorant Left will use his this to their advantage. He is our man- like it or not, so even though your concerns may be valid, please save the criticism until after the election. Thanks

  • DWeb

    You are putting words in Romney’s mouth. He said nothing about an individual mandate in his comments. You did.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3634KFUB3TH3DIVQ2JDWYYOMPU Richard

      Tim speculates… at best.

    • http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown

      Yes Richard and I admitted that speculation, but based on record. Please refute the record:)

      DWeb, I didn’t say that he said anything about the individual mandate in his comments. What I said was he had praise for a system that had an individual mandate.

    • nofool

      Your bias shows that your mind is made up and bashing Romney is easy when you already have your mind made up. You can’t project the future because you think you know what he will do. The record shows that Romney had a Democratic House that passed the so called Romney Care. If you check the record he opposed it but was over ridden and changes were made after it was passed. You can’t say what he will do but I’m sure that he will do better than letting the Democrats rule our country.

    • DWeb

      nofool, right you are. I Romney were in red state like South Carolina, he never have had to take the “moderate” positions he did. BTW, the only way to move your sate forward in a state as blue as MA, CA, or others, is to pick you battles and win where you can. Tim is anti Romney and anti-Mormon. Maybe those are one in the same. Just saying!

    • http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown

      Didn’t say i could project the future:) I said speculated, based on a past record. Yes my mind is made up. Is yours? I did check the record and Romney praised himself for what he did in Massachusetts nofool. Of course I can’t say positively 100% what he will do. However, just because he has an R tagged to his name doesn’t mean he will do better. It just doesn’t. After all he was elected in a pretty liberal state. That right there should say a lot. Second, I see no refutation of the information I did provide. Let’s start there first. I think it is fair to speculate based on record, but not on rhetoric that is contradictory to your record. As for his opposition, well, he did have the power to veto as governor. He chose to sign a health care mandate into law instead.

  • NOBO4ME

    Okay, so I’ll just give up and vote for the Socialist, Marxist, Communist Obama, because apparently everyone loves him. We have two !@#$% choices — Romney or Obama! Up to you America! I can guarantee another 4 years of Obama and you can kiss America BYE BYE!

  • http://twitter.com/MrDrawingguy Alan Alsup

    There is still another choice America… :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7qMhSx8UsU

    • NOBO4ME

      Yeah, the other choice everyone is talking about is Ron Paul which will split the Republican vote, and then it’s a slam dunk for BO.
      So the choice we have in Nov is Romney? or Obama?

    • http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown

      Actually surveys demonstrate Paul takes votes away from …..Obama. His supporters are just not going with Romney, so he doesn’t have them anyway.

    • http://twitter.com/MrDrawingguy Alan Alsup

      Very true Tim, and being Romney IS Obama, with less ridiculous ears… I’m with Dr Paul to the very end.. :)

  • Eyes Wide Open

    What a clear and obvious attempt to attack Romney because you hate his religion. You specifically pointed out that Mike Leavitt is a “Mormon” Why? What does his religion matter? You quote Politico which is well known as a group that leans to the left in their reporting and opinions. Romney’s comments about the Israeli health care system were simply pointing out that they are able to provide optimal health care at a much lower cost than we in the US. But no you try to twist his words into something he did not say. Would you rather have Obama serve another 4 years and totally destroy our country? Would you rather have Obama-Care remain as the law of the land? How un-Christian and wicked of you to use this forum to attack good people. You may not agree with their religion but I dare say they are more Christian than you. I’ve often heard Evangelical “Christians” claim that Mormons worship a “different” Jesus. Well given your example I can say I would much prefer their Jesus over yours. Don’t try to claim your intent was something other than what we clearly see here. You may convince a few ignorant red-necks but thinking people both Christian and otherwise will see right through your veiled attempt at religious bigotry.

    • John Smith

      “You may not agree with their religion but I dare say they are more Christian than you.” Eyes Wide Open that is the worst fallacy I have ever seen anyone say. You obviously have a problem with your reading comprehension, since reading this article shows no religious bigotry as you seem to demonstrate quite well.

      I have been digging into Romney’s history on all sorts of things, and came to one conclusion. Romney is what we call a technocrat in the Herbert Hoover vein. He believes the government can work with the private sector, using the government to tinker with things. It never worked and never will. Romney better work to get us back to an economy with much more freedom.

    • http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown

      Thanks John:)

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3634KFUB3TH3DIVQ2JDWYYOMPU Richard

      Now this is an opposing view that I can respect. Thumbs up John.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TFABB6NXHV2A3FIL6LGV36GQTY Vince

      It’s not just evangelical Christians who denounce the apostasy of Mormonism but those who have left the church themselves. Maybe you should dig into some research on the roots of the cult.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3634KFUB3TH3DIVQ2JDWYYOMPU Richard

      Of course people who have left the LDS church would denounce it as apostate. Martin Luther was called a heretic by the Catholic church and reformist called a “cult”. Early “Christians” who left Judaism were denounced as apostates. What’s your point? One man’s poison is another man’s doctrine? Once again, we are not electing a High Priest-in-chief. If you have an axe to grind about Mormonism, go start a website or something. But don’t pretend to be a conservative and ignore Article VI of the document we call “The Constitution”.

    • http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown

      Richard, I appreciate you pointing that out. It’s true we don’t have a religious test oath by the government, but that is not an argument for people with a religious conscience to have a religious test oath:) just sayin:)

    • pearl87

      Eyes wide shut. You Rombots are just like obama’s minions, who scream “Racism” whenever someone disagrees with him. Only, you scream “How dare you attack Mormons!” Mormons have nothing to do with this. Romney is a turd sandwich. He will never get the votes of intelligent Americans.

    • NOBO4ME

      Your comment: Romney will never get the votes of intelligent Americans. Who will get the votes of intelligent Americans? OBAMA??? Absolutely NOT! THOSE are the STUPID Americans!!! Anyone voting for another 4 years of Socialism, Marxism, bigger government, more government debt and spending, regulations against business, unemployment, a sick economy, foreclosures, bashing religious freedom, dividing America, race bating, taxing and denigrating the job creators, killing small business, blatantly breaking the oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution, weakening our National Defense, throwing Israel under the bus, standing up for the Muslims but not the Christians — sigh, I’m getting tired of typing all the FAILURES of this presidency — anyone who votes for another 4 years of THAT and much more ought to just move to Russia! Your’e not a true American if you stand by and watch it being undermined by the likes of Obama and his corrupt Chicago-style administration.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3634KFUB3TH3DIVQ2JDWYYOMPU Richard

      Your problem pearl is just the same as any Paul-tard I know… they think that they are the only ones capable of intelligent and critical thought. Then they devolve into calling others “sheep”. Guess what, you’re not the only one who can play that game. I love Ron Paul the person… but the fanaticism that some Paul supporters display is downright off putting. Here’s a clue, just state your case let the chips fly.

    • cama9

      If ‘fanaticism’ is following the Constitution and ensuring our Bill of Rights is NOT abrogated, then I wear the fanatic badge proudly. You, obviously, agree with Willard AND Obama that the NDAA provisions that can kidnap whoever the president wants to kidnap is just fine and dandy, and you enjoy the blatant abuse of the 4th Amendment perpetrated by the TSA, a thug mob that Willard will expand to every corner of the nation. You also support WWIII that both Willard and Barry want to start. And your ‘let the chips fly’ comment is absurd! You’re basically saying let America fall! No, sir. Like John Paul Jones said, “I have just begun to fight.”
      And here’s a quote from Judge Andrew Napolitano I leave you to ponder, “If we surrender our freedoms in order to defend the nation, what would be left that is worth defending?”

    • Edward53

      Paul’s supporters are the ones who lost the nomination for him. Paul had a part in losing it, too, but mainly his rude and obnoxious supporters. I don’t know if they have a fascination with farm animals or if they just smell like them. Probably both. Look for them to start the riots at the Republican Convention in Tampa when Paul doesn’t get the nomination.

    • http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown

      and yet they are socialist in their medicine, so tell me are you for socialist medicine if it gets your costs down? More Christian? You are either a Christian or you are not. There is no such thing as “more ” or less christian. LOL religius bigotry. Yeah that’s it. I simply pointed out Leavitt is a mormon and that is religious intolerance. Sounds like how liberals attack, without facts, just ad homs.

      Second I didn’t attack anyone. I pointed out the record. Deal with that.

  • Bob

    Tim I also notice you have a negative add about Denny Rehberg by Jon Testor does that mean you are supporting Jon Tester? If you aren’t supporting Tester why are you allowing him to trash Denny on this site?

    • http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown

      Bob, I don’t control the ads:) I’m just a writer:) Ads are served up based on where YOU have been on the internet:)

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/UMMRMSBWAKENSZOATSQEL4PTAM Tom T

    The stage is set for nov. so what are you saying vote for obama because there is no difference or vote third party and put him back that way??? What is the point at this date?? The situation is the same as 4 years ago no one fit for President the only decision is to get rid of an enemy, the only difference this time is that to a sane person he has shown beyond doubt that he is an enemy to our freedom and has commited treason against our Constitution. All appointees of his for the most part have been communist, marxist, muslims,or homosexuals all against what has kept us as a nation. He has not clarified himself ? I don’t think he has either. How about you clarifing youself , your point, what is your answer?? Do you have a suggestion to make??

    • pearl87

      God would want you to vote your conscience. That means you don’t vote for anyone who will do evil, neither obama nor Romney.

    • pat78

      God would want people to vote with an “informed” conscience– according to His will. There are exceptions when both are evil as the lesser of two evils. In this case this time, Ron Paul is still running for president.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3634KFUB3TH3DIVQ2JDWYYOMPU Richard

      Tom, don’t fall into the premise that most Ron Paul supports want to start you out at–that Romney is at best, the lesser of 2 evils, or at worst, just the same as Obama. Both those premises are the furthest from the truth. And saying it repeatedly does not make it true. By that standard, Regan wouldn’t have past muster by their (i.e. RP supporters) standards because of his positions prior to reaching the “pivot points” in his life.

  • Bob

    So Tim if you have such a dim view of Mitt Romney does that mean you are supporting Barack Obama? If not who are you supporting or do you just like to write negative things about others.

    • http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown

      Bob, please. Have you read the articles on this site? I so, how could you honestly ask a question like that? I wrote only the facts. I don’t see you refuting them. I see you attacking the messenger.

  • Bob B.

    You’re out of line, Tim Brown. Mitt Romney, even though you speak negatively of him as a ‘Mormon’, would not ‘shaft’ us with a wrongful health care plan. He is an honest man who would only do his very best for our country.

    • http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown

      Bob, out of line? I didn’t speak negatively of Romney’s Mormonism in the article. In fact I didn’t touch on Mitt Romney’s Mormonism at all. I dealt with the facts. I would prefer you make an attempt to refute the article. His own record speaks far louder than his rhetoric.

    • And they said Lord, Lord…

      You didn’t deal with facts. You distorted the comments he made about the Israeli health care system. And then you made it a point to identify Mike Leavitt as “a Mormon” as if that was a bad thing. You know exactly what you were trying to do and you should be ashamed of yourself. But I guess lies and distortion of the truth is ok for “Christians” if it’s for a good cause….

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TFABB6NXHV2A3FIL6LGV36GQTY Vince

      It is a bad thing. Mormonism is a cult based on the lies of a false prophet.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3634KFUB3TH3DIVQ2JDWYYOMPU Richard

      Vince, chill will you? Let the “mormon” thing go… it is not supporting any of your arguments.

    • Edward53

      The Ron Paul R3VOLUTION, now that’s a cult. It’s almost as bad as the Jim Jones cult.

    • http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown

      Yes I pointed out Leavitt is a Mormon. I think it appropriate to kknow exactly who is bring pulled into the administration. I didn’t lie about anything. I quoted his comments in context. It’s funny, if Obama had said the same thing Mitt said, you guys would be pointng out the very same things I did, but you don’t do that with a guy who claims to be on our side.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3634KFUB3TH3DIVQ2JDWYYOMPU Richard

      “Mitt Romney has also installed former Utah Governor Mike Leavitt, a Mormon, to head up his presidential transition team.” You brought it up Tim… even in a sideways reference towards making a negative point regarding Mike Leavitt’s appointment. If it didn’t matter to you, why did you bring it up? You could have made your point without the reference, but you did. Perhaps some introspection is in order.
      Secondly, your article merely “speculates” what Romney would or wouldn’t do regarding the healthcare crisis in the country based on patterns of behavior. While some weight may be granted your approach, it still is speculation at best. With the rising cost of healthcare and healthcare insurance, do you not agree that something has to be done about it? I am tired paying $800+ a month for insurance premiums to cover my family… and the company I work for has a self-funded program. Who knows what it’ll be next year? What is so wrong about the Israeli model? Romney was looking at the Israeli as a businessman and informed consumer… comparing the product with the cost and contrasting it with other expenditures. BTW, the Massachusetts model was blueprinted by the folks at the Heritage Institute.

    • http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown

      Again Richard, who did I speak of in regards to Mormonism? I wasn’t Romney. Try reading in context:) it was Leavitt.

      I agreee I am speculating about what “might” happen. I haven’t said otherwise, but that speculation is based on a record, not rhetoric.

      Richard, I agree that he did draw that parallel. However, the question then becomes why not follow that model? Second, I understand your point about costs, but then you seem to be justifying state mandated health care insurance purchases. Is this really what conservatives want? I sure don’t.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3634KFUB3TH3DIVQ2JDWYYOMPU Richard

      “but then you seem to be justifying state mandated health care insurance purchases”. I think you take a little too much liberty in saying that I am for state mandated health care. The context of my statement was no where near that premise. :) I merely stated what everyone in the country that buys their own health care insurance is saying, SOMETHING MUST BE DONE. Even republicans and conservatives are saying that… WITHOUT endorsing state mandated health care insurance purchases. Is it deregulating the insurance companies so that folks can purchase insurance across state lines? Is it tort reform so that health care providers aren’t sued out of their profession, which causes them to carry an exorbitant amount in malpractice insurance, which is then passed down to consumers? Tort reform would also cause health care professionals to not use too many superfluous diagnostic procedures to diagnose an issue just so they can cover their posteriors from liability. Heck, I had to go through 3 procedures (i.e. blood work, an MRI and an X-ray) just to have a problem with my gall bladder diagnosed… and an X-ray tech was the one who spotted it… what’s the cost on that entail? I don’t know, but something HAS to be done to address the rising cost of health care in the country. Romney was right to point out Israeli model-it’s people are paying less than we do for healthcare and they are living longer, and they run the risk of getting rocket bombed on a daily basis to boot. Ergo, I’d say they are getting a better product. We don’t run that risk, but we pay more in GDP for health care than we do in defense. Just saying…

    • http://FrontPorchPolitics.com/ Tim Brown

      Richard, thanks for the reply. I wasn’t saying that you are for it. My point was what Romney’s praise of the system implies. Then when I don’t hear refutation of what he actually has implemented and I don’t hear a plan, then I admit I’m assuming, based on his record, that he think individual mandates to purchase a product you don’t want, health care insurance, is a good thing. I simply asked the question, is this what conservatives want?:)

      The reason conservatives and republicans are saying something must be done is because Democrats made it a political issue. Did you actually hear republicans and conservatives in a tizzy over this prior to Obama? I can only remember them fighting it when it came from Hillary:) Again, except for deregulation at the federal level to allow competition across state lines, nothing should be done, except full repeal of Obamacare.

      Having the federal government demand that private businesses, like insurance companies, cover pre-existing conditions, seems to me to be a bit overstepping their bounds here. I know it sounds good on the surface, but that’s like them coming to me and telling me that I have to write for other publications, say a homosexual site. I wouldn’t do it. I would consider it a violation of my rights, especially of freedom of association. But now we are so deep in this that we think that is ok. I say it’s not.

    • pearl87

      YOU are out of line. Mormonism has nothing to do with the etch-a-sketch Romney. He is a liar from all time. He has NO HONOR. Be a deluded idiot if you want to, but Romney invented Obamacare, has always supported ABORTION and HOMOSEXUALITY. He will never win, because he would be worse for this country than the illegal alien we have now.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TFABB6NXHV2A3FIL6LGV36GQTY Vince

      You have to ask yourself, if it has nothing to do with his religion, why would a devout Mormon (who has given untold monies to the church) support such evils and be so deceptive about it? After all, he is far more devout than the radical so-called “Christian” who is currently in office.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3634KFUB3TH3DIVQ2JDWYYOMPU Richard

      Pivot points Vince… ever heard of them? Reagan had a few of them as well. And since we are on a religious vein, so did Saul/Paul in the New Testament and Jonah in the Old Testament.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3634KFUB3TH3DIVQ2JDWYYOMPU Richard

      “because he would be worse for this country than the illegal alien we have now” Really now pearl… that is quite a stretch. Now you’re just believing your own propaganda.

    • Al;

      Unfortunately, Bob chooses blindness. Good article Tim.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Wilkinson/619140713 Robert Wilkinson

    The right to check into a U.S. Emergency Room for “any reason” whatsoever does not exist in other Socialist Medical Systems. We already have 100% “plus” healthcare here in the U.S. and that is why it is expensive. Drug addicts check into emergency complaining of back aches. This does not occur in other socialists countries. Such is the case in Israel. They are not stupid enough to let people check in to the hospital who are not injured or sick– the same is true in Germany. I am not for socialist medicine– but I am also not for fiscal stupidity.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001399642471 Karol Smith

    The TWO choices are already in place. One is downright awful as we’ve seen the past three years, and then there’s Romney. If/when he is elected, it’s up to the voters to keep their feet on his neck via communication with the White House, Senate, and House members.

  • http://twitter.com/NancyMcCafferty Nancy McCafferty

    Clearly, this is one reason why Republicans MUST win the Senate and keep the House. Obama must go, but without both houses of Congress — and the people holding their feet to the fire — we may find ourselves with more problems.