Nebraska GOP: Worried About Ron Paul Supporters


109099-NE GOP-Logo4Looks like the Nebraska GOP are calling in extra security to deal with what they refer to in other states as “all out anarchy” in the delegate process. While far from the truth of “all out anarchy,” Ron Paul supporters have actually videoed entire state conventions and it is clear that is not what is taking place. Still the Nebraska GOP thinks they need a little muscle to keep the Paul supporters in line.

The July 14 state convention in Grand Island will determine whether or not Ron Paul will have his name on the ballot and in addition to that a platform to speak to the convention. This really seems to be the reason that the Nebraska GOP is bringing in extra security.

While the Nebraska Watchdog claims that chaos broke out in Louisiana, it was not on the part of Paul supporters as evidenced from an article written by Angelina Standford who was a delegate and eyewitness to the events in Louisiana. A video also documents just what took place along with the article.

The Paul supporters have been playing by the rules of the GOP. They have been succeeding at obtaining legitimate delegates, which is why they have legitimate delegates and the GOP doesn’t like it.

The executive director of the state Republican Party, Jordan McGrain said, “We’re just not going to tolerate any disruptions. This is not going to be a free-for-all.”

It won’t be a free for all. It will be by the rules. However, just like in Oklahoma, Arizona and even in Louisiana the rules were not being followed and thus I suppose the GOP expects people to sit back and take them violating the rules. Oklahoma’s delegates are divided among two separate slates and will more than likely be determined in court.

According to the Nebraska Watchdog,

In Nebraska, about half the delegates went to Paul supporters in Douglas and Sarpy counties, with Paul supporters claiming rules were violated in Dodge County and retreating to a rump convention in Fremont. Then the Paul-Tea Party movement appeared poised to get their candidate elected chairman of the party – over the wishes of Gov. Dave Heineman – until chairman Fahleson pre-empted that fight this week by announcing plans to stay in his position until his term ends next year.

And so ends the battle for the chairmanship, but the battle for delegates continues. It would be an embarrassment for Heineman – the first governor to endorse Romney – to have his state’s delegates vote for Paul at the national convention. Heineman has been mentioned as a contender for a Romney cabinet post.

McGrain said Romney and Paul supporters have been “burning up the phone lines” – making calls to delegates to ascertain who they’re committed to before the state convention. He accused Paul supporters of claiming to be from the state GOP or refusing to say who they are. A leader of the Paul movement said those calls are being made by the Paul campaign.

McGrain claims, “They’re not interested in a straight-up fight. They need to float underneath the radar. It’s just kind of their M.O. (modus operandi).”

McGrain’s statement is just not true. As an example take the Georgia GOP state convention where the GOP wanted to put forth a resolution that read,

“Whereas President Obama signed into a law the National Defense Authorization Act of 2011 and whereas section 1021 of the aforementioned act is repugnant to all American ideals, traditions and laws, in as much as it violates the United States Constitution, in that it suspends the writ of habeas and of Article 1, Section 9 and violates the 5th, 6th and 9th Amendments. Now therefore be it resolved that the Republican party of Georgia calls on the United States congress to repeal section 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2011.”

This was approved and an amendment followed the resolution which stated, “I just want to mention that if the Georgia Republican party decides to withdraw a resolution every time the vote doesn’t exactly go their way then we are undermining the very foundations of this party.”

“The Georgia Republican Party will not endorse any candidate that has voted for or supported those sections.”

Even though Georgia went to Gingrich, some attendees realized that a certain presumptive nominee approved on national television in a live Republican debate the NDAA as written and so the convention withdrew the entire resolution. Now that is not a “straight-up fight” as Mr. McGrain calls it. In fact, one convention participant said, “I just want to mention that if the Georgia Republican party decides to withdraw a resolution every time the vote doesn’t exactly go their way then we are undermining the very foundations of this party.”

McGrain goes on to put out generalized comments such as, “Frankly some of the people that got involved are supportive of Ron Paul and really don’t have any interest in doing what’s right by the Republican voters of Nebraska or by the Republican Party, who overwhelmingly said on election day that Mitt Romney was their choice. Now is clearly the time to coalesce behind our candidate.”

Except Mr. McGrain, legally the GOP does not have a candidate until the man is actually nominated. This is why he is referred to as a “presumptive” nominee and not the GOP nominee. Mr. McGrain also claim that “some people” do this and that. I’d like for Mr. McGrain to name those “some people.”

I’m sure one of the people he might name would be Tea Party leader Laura Ebke who is chairwoman of the Republican Liberty Caucus. She claims there is dissatisfaction with the state party and the Liberty Caucus wants to help bring the party back to Constitutional thinking. She even claims that many counties aren’t sending a delegate to the convention, which should cause party officials to worry.

Ebke was called to meet with the governor where it was “made clear to us that he wasn’t very happy” for her groups support of a candidate for chairman that he had not endorsed. The governor then told her that she should not challenge his authority to name a state chairman.

Friends that is tyrannical. Why does the Liberty Caucus not have as much right to put forth their own candidate as Governor Dave Heineman? I have a word for Mr. Heineman: This is still America and people have a right to speak and to vote as they like. The people of Nebraska don’t need their governor calling them in and talking to them like little children that they should not oppose your candidate.

While Ebke says that they are prepared to lose, she hopes that there won’t be a “real rowdy convention” and that the “party plays fair.”

I do too. I hope there is lots of video on just how the convention is conducted. This has been crucial in several states as to seeing how the rules are being followed and how they are not. While I am not one that endorses all actions of all Liberty Caucus people, I am also not one that endorses all actions of the establishment either. Both have their rotten apples. But the convention is governed by rules. It would be nice to see them followed by all parties involved.



  • Richard E. Heidenreich

    We all obviously share the goal of ridding the White House of the tyrannical Obama Administration. As I read the posts here, I observe the “vote for Ron Paul ensures a victory for Obama” statements are passionate and numerous. That means Ron Paul supporters are so numerous they can throw the election? This is fantastic! It means our numbers are growing and we threaten the establishment greatly. This is going to be a very interesting GOP convention to say the least.
    Now consider this….if all who “held their nose” and voted for Romney had the courage to vote for Ron Paul in the primary, he would be our nominee by a land slide. And for the first time in many years we would have a nominee who was not selected for us by the very DC establishment we all call the “enemy within”.
    Instead, we will have more of the same no matter who gets the White House, and “America” will continue to wither and die.
    Unless…our focus and combined energy is directed towards cleansing the Senate. Without the Senate, nothing can be accomplished towards saving OUR Nation. Face it, without Congress regaining relevance and is returned to representative government of We The People, America is no more.
    Please stop attacking Ron Paul supporters! We are fellow patriots and desire the same things you do. Stop letting the TV do your thinking for you. The image cast on the Ron Paul movement is manufactured by the very same entities that demonize the Tea Party. The Ron Paul movement and the Tea Party are one and the same!

  • 128517

    The only person I trust in all the government is Ron Paul. I d like to see him go independent and just destroy the republican party… Unite the independents and those fed up with both parties…

  • http://www.facebook.com/craig.pietz.5 Craig Pietz

    it looks like the Gov and many of the Nebraska Gop dont even know why we have a Republic and why we elect delegates , the primary vote means nothing and counts for nothing ,we have a republic because the masses are stupid ,they are content to sit and watch 30 mins of fox news come away thinking they know some “truth” . The primary is only to get some feeling of the intelligence of the populate and in Nebraska it looks like 70% are under educated on politics , 70% are brainless zombies ,70% dont care . Delegates are elected to overide stupidy and complacency of the masses .thats why informed , intelligent, responsible people show up to over ride the dumbed down masses who think Romney is somehow better than Obama . start thinking for yourself and stop letting the Gop and Fox news think for you

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jared-Myers/1177000219 Jared Myers

    So much for the rule of law.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Wade/100003469516633 Ray Wade

    It is not the RP supporters they have to worry about. It is the finger breaking hip dislocating Republican GOP they have to worry about. RP supporters play by the rules and always have. I am a GA delegate and will vote RP first ballot at the RNC.

  • Noni77

    I reregistered as an independent, being disgusted by the whimpy, sell-out GOP, but re-registered as a Rep when it came to vote for the person who would run against Oboma. That was too important to miss, but I have been horrified by how that process has been utterly trampled and skewed to cheat Ron Paul out of coverage and even votes. Truly, we are battling traitor Democrat/Socialists, Muslim invaders, and traitor Republican globalist sell-outs!!!!

  • Segregate

    NOT VOTING FOR ROMNEY and don’t care if Obummer wins by one vote. Stupid people vote for Obummer and sheeple vote for Romney. Don’t you Romney people realize you were manipulated by the MSM? They picked Romney not you. Either every Republican in the US comes over to the Paul camp in the next 4 months or Osama gets re-elected. Romey voters are compromisers by their very nature. Paul voters don’t and won’t compromise. Obama will get back in. Guaranteed.

  • Joan Brown

    I would like to see Rand Paul selected for Vice President. His father is a little
    old to serve as President for eight years, if hopefully the Republican Party
    wins this year and four years later. I have just read that Rand has received
    many threats. This is probably to deter him from running for Vice President
    if selected by Mitt Romney. I believe that Ron Paul supporters would stand
    behind his son and help elect him Vice President. I am looking forward to
    a Republican in the White House again. I like Mitt and Ann Romney and
    we all need to lend them our support. I feel that a man who has made a
    success in his own life, in business and in a good marriage with a happy
    family, will make the best President. I am certain that Mitt has done this.
    Ann Romney will certainly be an asset to the White House, she will be
    the only first lady to win a U. S. Olympic Gold Medal.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RSF5N5VFXK7XLYNOOQIUC5UH34 WeDidit

    Romney is the Goldman Sachs candidate. Ironically, Obama is the Goldman Sachs candidate. It’s Goldman Sachs vs Goldman Sachs,, guess who will win (hint: Goldman Sachs). Like heads they win, tails we lose.

    Romney is so much like Obama on the critical issues, just like Obama has been so much like Bush. Romney likes the Patriot Act, Homeland Security, NDAA, Indefinite Detention of Americans, assassination of Americans, internet censorship, supports gun bans and feels there should be no transparency of the Federal Reserve. So what do Americans really win if Romney is elected?

    More ruling of America by the UN and central banks and wars that benefit only war profiteers and Wall St. At least having a sizable number of Ron Paul delegates show up in Tampa could send a message, rather than just a big happy coronation of Romney.

  • BS Detector

    Mitt or Obummer will be the next President , NOT Ron Paul. Get over it Paulies and face the facts. Stubbornly standing on the belief that Ron Paul is electable and refusing to support the Republican nominee is exactly what the Liberal Obummer people want. You say it’s a non vote for Mitt and not a vote for Obummer. OK….have it your way but It still equals a victory for Obummer.
    Remember Ross Perot helping Bill Clinton win with 46% of the vote? It can happen again……………….

  • Sherry J

    Ron Paul delegates expose corruption in the Republic Party! Isn’t that how the democrats push bills that are destroying America! Ron Paul cleaning up the Republican Party and the Criminals don’t like being exposed

  • nvrat

    The Nebraska GOP should be jittery with all of the GOP RINO`s they put in office over the years, Nelson? must I say more.

  • Benjamin Marcoux

    AMERICAN VOTERS MUST BE EVER SO CAREFUL AS THEY READ THESE COMMENTS AS TO WHO THEY WILL VOTE FOR NOVEMBER 2012.
    IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT EACH PERSON UNDERSTAND WHAT IS TAKING PLACE AT THIS MOMENT INSIDE THE EVIL” BELTWAY” AROUND THE WHITE HOUSE.,WASHINGTON D C.

    1. OBAMA MUST NOT WIN OR AMERICA IS DOOMED, THEREFORE,

    2.MITT ROMNEY MUST BE VOTED INTO OFFICE OF PRESIDENCY IN ORDER FOR OUR COUNTRY TO SURVIVE 4 MORE YEARS.
    .
    3. WE MUST PLACE OUR VOTES WITH ROMNEY , LIKE IT OR NOT., WE MUST AND, HERE’S WHY>>>
    NOW THAT , “WE THE PEOPLE” , WHO HAVE FINALLY AWAKENED TO THE EVIL SCHEME OF THE TWO “HEADED SNAKE” [THE LEFT- HEAD THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND THE RIGHT HEAD THE REPUBLICAN PARTY] CLEARLY UNDERSTAND ,THAT THE TWO HEADED SNAKE IS TAKING US INTO A ” ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT”, WE CAN AND WE MUST EMPOWER OUR CONGRESSMEN TO RETURN AMERICA BACK TO OUR FOREFATHER’S CONSTITUTION.AND BILL OF RIGHTS.
    THERE WILL , NO DOUBT, BE TOTAL CONFUSION AT THE DELEGATE CONVENTION IN TAMPA AS THE ” TWO-HEADED SNAKE” VIES FOR THE DELEGATES TO PUSH FOR RON PAUL AS AN INDEPENDENT PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AND THUS SPLIT THE REPUBLICAN VOTES CAUSING OBAMA TO WIN.
    iILOVE RON PAUL AS A TRUE CONSERVATIVE>>> BUT>>> NOW IS NOT THE MOMENT FOR RON PAUL.
    WE MUST VOTE MITT ROMNEY 2012 INTO OFFICE AND THEN RETURN OUR COUNTRY TO ITS FORMER CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPALS BY DEFEATING OBAMA FIRST AND FOREMOST..

    • blue

      Romney is losing to Oblama now. When are you going to wake up and smell the coffee? Romney will not change the socialist agenda or slide into the NWO.

    • Edward53

      No he’s not!! Plus, Romney is out spending Obama, too.

  • sean murry

    He may come away with the nomation.

  • Doski

    Any Vote other than Third Party will guarantee the two party system stays corrupted with no chance of saving America. The Libertarian Party need to get a minimum of 15 % in this election cycle to Establish itself as a viable alternative to the ‘Establishment of Evil’, aka RNC/DNC.

  • RonMar

    I’ve had enough of this fun, frivolity and foolishness. I’m going to my bedroom, get on my knees and pray Ron Paul endorses Romney, or that Romney announces Paul is his VP candidate. The latter is better than Paulites wasting their votes on Paul as a write-in for President which = a vote for Obama and against Romney.
    Good grief! And good night dear hearts.

  • Robert

    If Ron Paul cannot see that he is doing more damage to America than anything else if he allows these people to continue down the Paul path. He himself is said that he knew he could not get elected. He had his chance did not get the nomination why can’t he be a man and directors followers to support whoever the candidate ends up being. The most important point is to remove This Diaper Head imposter from the White House. This might not happen those people supporting Ron Paul do not support whatever candidate runs against this diaper head in the White House.
    Ron Paul may not make the request but I implore all of this devoted followers to do what’s right for the country and to support the conservative nominee. But egos aside and do what’s best for the country please.

    • RonMar

      Actually the Islamic head wrap is much bigger than a diaper; so it’s not right to say “Diaper Head.” Sheethead is the right word choice.

  • RonMar

    Everyone should be wary of Ron Paul and his supporters. He is a candidate like the Dems’ Dennis Kucinich, annoying, espousing silly ideas not practical, feasible or sensible in a global world which no one can change. Isolationism has failed practically, at least since the formation of the United States of America. It is even more ridiculous now to imagine we can live within our own borders, territories and possessions unthreatened, unmolested and safe from hostile aggressors.
    Paul is a loser at least twice over on the national scale. He is right where he can serve best, if at all well, in the House of Representatives representing his district in TX.
    The greatest danger of Paul and his supporters is that they may waste their votes on him and enable Obama to steal re-election as he did the ’08 election.
    The nation and we the people will not survive another four years of Obama. That is clear.
    Thus, unless they vote right, for Romney, Paul and his supporters will bear a responsibility for the demise of the USA and the loss of our freedoms, liberty, pursuit of happiness, health and in many cases very lives.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BX23PSBVNKZBEOCXROD4555EFQ Ken

      Everybody should be wary of dimwits like you who believe Romney will change anything.

      Gov Gary Johnson 2012

    • RonMar

      Dimwit Kenny, I did not say nor do I believe Romney will change everything, but he will change a lot that must be changed soon before there is no U.S.A., thus no place for a free people to live.
      Gary Johnson? I don’t see any Gary Johnson on the national scene, no more than I do a viable Ron Paul.
      How about Duard Fahrquart 2012?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BX23PSBVNKZBEOCXROD4555EFQ Ken

      You probably did not see Obama beating McCain like a bass drum either, did you?

    • RonMar

      I did see Obama, a usurper, probable foreign agent, stealing the election with support from Geo. Soros manipulation and money, also Islamist terrorists’ financing, voting irregularities as never seen before in my lifetime, threats, actual harm to some and by concealing his vital life records, and presenting various, conflicting stories about his background.
      I did not see or hear any bass drums.
      I also see you are not the least bit curious about Duard Fahrquart or trying to convince anyone that your Gary Johnson is the man for the job.
      All that helps me in my voting decisions. Thank you.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BX23PSBVNKZBEOCXROD4555EFQ Ken

      Sure you did. I can see by your statements that you are a visionary…

    • RonMar

      I sure did, you betchum, Red Ryder. With my Superman or are they Spiderman eye implants I can see right through you too. Please tell Gary, I said hi. Duard sends his love to you.

    • pearl87

      Republicrats are silly and annoying to me. You and your precious elites are the dangerous ones. And you are frightened because the mask is torn and we see you and your corrupt cronies for what you are. Believe me when I say that we will not waste our votes on the likes of your stuffed mannequin, Romney. Yap all you want , it is the Republicrat elite that has brought down our country and misled decent people into thinking you had any convictions and principles when you were nothing but self-interest. We won’t be deceived again with your empty rhetoric.

    • RonMar

      Oysterperson, I suppose you know a pearl is formed in the slime of a bottom-feeding oyster by a pollutant causing an irritation. But that is biology; this is politics and survival of the nation and all of us, including you.
      I’d like to see you offer your solution rather than ranting mindlessly, using childish political party titles. Please knock off your empty rhetoric and name for the thread your solution by name. Then others and I can let you know if we agree or not. That could develop into enough voters nationwide to put your man or woman at the helm and save America and us.
      Awaiting your intelligent response. Thank you.

    • Charles Awatchmanonthewall

      RonMar, you make me LOL with your responses that are straight out of the indoctrination you have been fed by the establishment and the media. What Ron Paul stands for is the America you know very little about. The America that our founding fathers gave their lives for to establish on a Judeo/Christian foundation that is supposed to be governed by the rule of law. The Republican party establishment has clearly over ridden their own rules to in order to put up the establishment candidate.

      I am one that will not vote for the lesser of two evils anymore! It did not work for McCain, it did not work for Bush, it did not work against Clinton, it did not work for Dole. The establishment is controlling the sham of our elections and we need someone to change the understanding of the people so the people will have a real say as to who we should put up as a viable candidate.
      If you look back at the 1920 Republican Convention you will see that Harrison went to the convention with only 39 delegates, but he was on the ballot and he won the nomination after 10 ballots. Not only that, but he won the election because he had a real message of restoration from the 1919 depression.

    • RonMar

      Thank you Charlie watchmanonthewall. I am pleased to bring some happiness into your life. You have me ROTFL at you too with your false assumptions and bovine defecation, squawking the losing Ron Paul/Paulites lines right from the Paulite Parrot Squawk Book. Thank you again.

      You do not inform. I know what Ron Paul stands for; who doesn’t, he has been preaching it now for at least two primaries which he lost without enough votes to be elected county dogcatcher.

      Here are the hilarious false assumptions and bovine defecation you patty flop in your post that make me laugh so hard at you: “indoctrination,” “establishment,” “media,” “America [I} know … little about,” “founding fathers gave their lives for to establish,” “Republican party … has clearly over ridden their own rules to in order to put up the establishment candidate,” “lesser of two evils,” “did not work for McCain,”Bush,” “against Clinton,” “Dole,“ “controlling the sham of our elections,” “need someone to change the understanding … so the people will have a real say as to who we … put up as a viable candidate,” “look back at …1920 … Harrison … 39 delegates … was on the ballot … won … after 10 ballots … won the election because he had a real message of restoration ….”Gee, that’s almost your entire post. No wonder my stomach is hurting so bad, and I can barely catch my breath.

      Briefly, I am not indoctrinated but you are. I eschew the establishment. I gave up on U.S. media more than half a century ago. America I know well. I am from a family of “founding fathers” and mothers who first arrived in VA in 1700 from England, great grandfathers who fought in the most uncivil Civil War (of Northern Aggression), and a line of fighters for America that goes back to the American Indians and forward a generation past my 21 years active duty, 38 total in uniform. Educate me and the other readers and posters here, please, if you can, list for us the founding fathers who were killed in combat, hanged or shot to establish the U.S.A. YTBSM – S = Spoofing – about Romney being the establishment candidate of the Republican Party. The truth is the Republican Party establishment is only now beginning to warm up to him a little bit.
      McCain lost for reasons totally unrelated to Party establishment. GWB served two terms and could not run again – “governed by the rule of law” – to use your phrase which I value greatly. GHWB lost because of “no new taxes, watch my lips” and James Carville’s “it’s the economy, stupid,” sort of sounds like Obama’s present situation to those of us who are not deaf, blind, dumb or irrational. Dole is so far back I’ll have to know first of which Dole – Elizabeth or Robert – you are speaking, review the history and remember where I was at the time – probably off somewhere being a fighter for freedom against Communism. Since the Doles are ancient history for me, Harrison is out of the question, except I know the U.S. population was a bit less in those days than it is now, and we had just come out of WWI which we had entered very late and most reluctantly and headed toward WWII which we entered way later than we did WWI.I agree wholeheartedly with you on the Judeo-Christian foundation, but also know our schools have taught at least two-three generations that is not true. I know too that Obama has said we are not a Christian nation but rather one of the largest nations of Muslims.
      That’s it for now. It’s late. I’m tired. I am enjoying talking with you, but good night for now. Sleep tight your Armed Forces, law enforcement, fire protection and EMT people are awake.
      By the way, my mother’s youngest sister is a Jehovah’s witness, and momma always told me to be wary of Emily. I was not. Emily is a true believer. Her zeal is almost as great as that of you Paulites, and I admire her and your zeal as well.
      generation past my 21 years active duty, 38 total in uniform. Educate me and the other readers and posters here, please, if you can, list for us the founding fathers who were killed in combat, hanged or shot to establish the U.S.A. YTBSM – S = Spoofing – about Romney being the establishment candidate of the Republican Party. The truth is the Republican Party establishment is only now beginning to warm up to him a little bit.

      McCain lost for reasons totally unrelated to Party establishment. GWB served two terms and could not run again – “governed by the rule of law” – to use your phrase which I value greatly. GHWB lost because of “no new taxes, watch my lips” and James Carville’s “it’s the economy, stupid,” sort of sounds like Obama’s present situation to those of us who are not deaf, blind, dumb or irrational. Dole is so far back I’ll have to know first of which Dole – Elizabeth or Robert – you are speaking, review the history and remember where I was at the time – probably off somewhere being a fighter for freedom against Communism. Since the Doles are ancient history for me, Harrison is out of the question, except I know the U.S. population was a bit less in those days than it is now, and we had just come out of WWI which we had entered very late and most reluctantly and headed toward WWII which we entered way later than we did WWI.I agree wholeheartedly with you on the Judeo-Christian foundation, but also know our schools have taught at least two-three generations that is not true. I know too that Obama has said we are not a Christian nation but rather one of the largest nations of Muslims.

      That’s it for now. It’s late. I’m tired. I am enjoying talking with you, but good night for now. Sleep tight your Armed Forces, law enforcement, fire protection and EMT people are awake.

      By the way, my mother’s youngest sister is a Jehovah’s witness, and momma always told me to be wary of Emily. I was not. Emily is a true believer. Her zeal is almost as great as that of you Paulites, and I admire her and your zeal as well.

    • Charles Awatchmanonthewall

      Isn’t it amassing what the republican establishment can do ro loose elections and make people think it’s not their fault. It’s those darn republicans that think the party should go back to the original constitutional grounds that used to govern our nation.

    • RonMar

      Charlie, I don’t know about “amassing” or “ro loose elections,” but I do know about, am sometimes amazed by the competence, patriotism, intelligence, etc. of Republican Conservatives, and both amused and wary of people who are illiterate in English, irrational and trying to be funny in childishly cute ways.
      I believe the best thing you Paulites can do is shut up and try real hard, quietly to do whatever it is you imagine you are going to do.

    • Edward53

      So “amassing” Charles.

    • Stan

      The ‘elite’ do not have a party line

    • Edward53

      That explains why you are a liberal, pearl.

    • libertyloveruntilthedeath

      You are off on so many levels I don’t quite no where to begin. Blame Paul suporters for an Obama reelection? The sad truth is, it will be your fault. You & others of your ignorance & arrogance who just cant open your eyes to the bigger picture .. you will go to the polls to choose the lesser of 2 evils because your brainwasshed into believing theres actually a differenc-a choice between the two. There is not. Why not make your vote count for what you truly believe in.. the constitution, the thing that made our country great. That is a vote for truth. A vote for RON Paul. You see we will stand for what we believe even if that gets us obama again, because simlply there is no other choice than that of our hearts. Obomeny is the same man, controlled by money-stealing power hungry corporatism elites. So really, whos doing the voting damage? “More than love, money or fame, give me truth.” HD Thoreau

    • RonMar

      Wow! Double wow! Triple wow! You are likely to get the wish of your user name.
      You can begin by learning English so you are not so illiterate, e.g., “don’t quite no (sic) where to begin,” “suporters,” “cant,” “your brainwasshed,” “theres,” “differenc,” “simlply” and “whos.” Illiteracy, illogic, unsound reasoning based on falsehoods and bovine defecation are a few of the things that cause me to ignore for the most part the rantings of Ron Paul and his Paulites.
      Obviously you don’t know much about HD Thoreau either, but you post as if you are up to your lower lip in the muck, mire and tannic acid brown coloration of Walden’s Pond and hoping nothing makes a wave.
      Vote your heart, be my guest; it is your right and freedom of choice. Then pray one of Obama’s Islamists doesn’t cut out your heart, grill and eat it.
      I doubt a Romney man or woman even considers such barbarity. So, see, there are some differences between Obama and Romney.
      Think about it, although I doubt you can think at all. In the meantime I will ignore you until you become literate in English, become less emotional and learn to be logical and reasonable.
      Goodbye and good luck. You need a lot of luck.

    • Stan

      AT LEAST. . . He’s not been persuaded by the socialist media or fooled by a candidate that would not sign a statement (sent out from GOA) to defend and protect the second amendment, which all the other republican candidates signed. Once the election is over with, your candidate will also ignore you and continue to destroy the free will of the people.

    • RonMar

      Stan, I have to guess because you have jumped into the conversation I was having with others, your writing is so vague – using pronouns without clear antecedents, e.g., “He’s,” “socialist media” and “a candidate,” plus you use abbreviations without first spelling out the words, e.g., “GOA.”
      So, I guess “he’s” Ron Paul – your candidate. “Socialist media” could be any number of U.S. or foreign media like the NYTimes that comes to mind readily. I guess GOA is Gun Owners Association or some such thing. I belong only to the NRA in that regard. I cannot guess who you mean by “candidate that would not sign.”
      I have no candidate. Romney is the candidate of the Republican Party, and I intend to vote for him. I believe he might ignore you and other Paulites some, but not that he will ignore me or destroy the free will of the people. He cannot continue something he has not started, ever done or indicated in any way that he intends to do.
      Also I am not sure complete “free will of the people” is a good idea at all. It sounds like lawless anarchy and chaos to me, dog-eat-dog, survival of the fittest, and the devil take the hindmost. If you really want to be free not to have police, fire, EMT, medical care, traffic control, water purification, sanitation facilities and standards, etc. you confirm for me Paulites are “crazier than an outhouse mouse,” as daddy used to say.
      If you care to do so I will appreciate your trying again to say what you are trying to say. I am here to share views and learn from other sane, rational, reasonably intelligent adults, even children who are not mad as hatters like the characters in the story, Alice in Wonderland.

    • Charles Awatchmanonthewall

      Liblover, Well said! Don’t pay any attention to RonMar, he is just one of the establishment robots that think they are the only ones in the know. His indoctrination has been complete and he is spiting the party line.

      I’m with you, people need to vote for principle not a party favorite. Ron Paul is educating a lot of folks to the reality of our founding fathers great experiment in liberty and freedom from an oppressive government. If only the Romneybots and Republibots would comprehend that they are being led over the same cliff as the Demobots then maybe the message of liberty would be understood and they would realize that a vote for Romney is the wasted vote.

      With Obama reelected we will go over the cliff within 4 years, with Romney elected it might take 8 years. Same cliff, same distraction just a different pace to get there.

      A vote for Ron Paul just might wake up enough people to realize that the distraction might be averted if people just stand up for principle over popularity.