Man Jailed & Fined Over $12K For Having Home Bible Study


article-2170007-13F5CDA4000005DC-519_468x303Who would have thought that in the ‘land of the free and home of the brave” that there would be such a thing as it being unlawful to have a bible study in your home? Well apparently in Phoenix, Arizona it is. Since 2002 Michael Salman and his wife have opened their home up to between 15 and 20 people and they share in many things that Christian believers enjoy: Bible study, food, fellowship and prayer. That all ended recently with Mr. Salman being sentenced to 60 days in jail and $12,180 in fines.

So what brings all this about? Why is a man fined and imprisoned over simply having guests at his house and one of the things they engage in is bible study?

According to Christian News,

Michael Salman says that he has been battling the City of Phoenix for years after code enforcement officials told him that if he was going to hold worship gatherings on his property, it would be considered an “occupancy” and must be subject to commercial code regulations. Salman hosts a weekly study with his family and friends in a building located in his back yard, which is on approximately an acre and a half of land, with an additional 3.2 acres behind it. He asserts that the meetings are private and not open to the general public.

“The only people who go in that building is my wife and I and our guests,” he said. “People have a right to gather at their home and on their property with their guests. Why can’t we have people as our guests?”

He said that the city responded by stating that religious worship cannot be considered as being private.

Say what? OK, hold on a second here. This is what people wanted right? Remember the claims of keep your religious beliefs out of the public eye? I’m not advocating that for surely if you have serious religious beliefs they are not a private matter simply because they are part of a world view. They never leave you and thus it is part of your character that you take everywhere you go.

Many neighbors began calling authorities complaining about the number of cars parked at the property of the Salman’s. Was it any of their business? No. It was on his property. Sure, if the people were loud and bothering others I could see the issue, but there seems to be no difference in what was taking place with the Salmans and what people do all the time for birthday parties, Super Bowl parties, or just get-togethers with family and friends.

In 2008 firefighters came and attempted to break up the meetings and Salman ordered them off his property. “We told them they had no right,” he said. “They had been harassing us since February. This is our home. We are a private gathering. This is Christians gathering on my private property.”

It was then that Salman obtained building permits to construct a 2,000 square foot building in his backyard and the building passed inspection. They then moved to meet in the building and the city went ballistic.

The long-running feud between Salman and the City of Phoenix came to a head in June of 2009 when nearly a dozen police officers armed with a search warrant and accompanied by city inspectors raided his home near 31st and Northern avenues and combed the 4.6 acre property in search of violations. They charged him with 67 code violations.

The Circle of friends of the Salmans that met weekly in their home. This is what Arizona claims violates the law.

However, maybe you are someone who thinks that this is just Christians getting what they deserve. Aren’t you concerned at all that if the Salman’s Constitutional rights, specifically ‘the right of the people to peaceably assemble’ and the right to ‘freedom of religion’ are seriously being violated here?

I’m aware that as a believer in Jesus Christ, my Lord said that I would face tribulation in this world, but to take heart because He has overcome the world. However, that will not keep me from voicing the truth that Arizona here is clearly in the wrong.

Salman was to begin his sentence on July 9. The Assistant City Prosecutor, John Tutelman, who has characterized Mr. Salman as a “rebel” because he would not put an end to the Bible studies asked the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to revoke Salman’s probation and turn it into a two-and-a-half-year jail term.

Mr. Tutelman apparently has no heart. Salman is not only a father of five, but a husband and the city should re-evaluate their priorities of criminalizing what the First Amendment protects. I’m wondering if someone could bring Mr. Tutelman up on charges of being a rebel to the U.S. Constitution and put him out of his office of Prosecutor.

On a final note, notice that it does not appear that any of the neighbors actually spoke with the Salmans. They simply tattled on them. This is the whole thing that the federal government is doing to the people of America now with its “See Something, Say Something” campaign. They want to make us a nation of gossipers, and backbiters, spying on one another. As the now popular saying from the epic television series Lost so aptly put it, “If we dont’ learn to live together, we’ll die alone.

If you would like to help the Salman family with expenses, you can contact them on their Facebook Page for more information.

Watch Salman and his wife discuss their legal battle, below:





  • LaineyG

    The silent majority has been silent for too long. We are seeing our freedoms b=vanish under this administration and unless we speak up and speak out with our votes. We will no longer have the very freedoms which founded this country. We have a right to assemble peacably,we have a right for freedom of religious expression and we have a right to enjoy our private property without harassment. Arizona is 100% wrong in what they are doing to this family and instead of his neighbors complaining, they should be joining this man against Arizona.

  • Ctaj

    Speaking as an athiest with libertarian leanings, this is absurd. I don’t care if they want to swing dead cats around a bon fire and howl at the moon … it’s the man’s private property, and he ought to be left the hell alone. The City of Phoenix is way out of line on this one.

    • FireMall

      @ Ctaj:
      Are you saying that when the Obama lead Jihadist come for all us infidels that I can count on you to stand locked and loaded beside me & other Americans of all faiths against the Muslims coming attacks & as a Fellow American regardless of my Christian salvation & faith there of ??

      He who is the enemy of my enemy is my Friend.
      Deal ??
      If this is too personal a question for a non-believer , I suggest thinking about what Islam has promised for all who are not of Mohammad’s calling.

    • http://www.facebook.com/v.k.mitchell Keith Mitchell

      You seem like a really cool & good person, I used to hate Christanity until I became a christian..I hope at some point you make the decision to know Christ..it would be cool to meet you on the other side Ctaj!! …Peace!!

  • http://twitter.com/PureSelling Donna Bistrican

    We open our home for Bible study with around 12 to 19 people. We also share a meal together. How long before believers have to meet in secret? Is this a communist country?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hugh-Dame/1184861044 Hugh Dame

      Pretty much and it will be full out Marxist if voters put Obamao in again.
      I am investigating moving to New Zealand and letting the black African dictatorship implode without me

    • Karen

      Why New Zealand? I agree. The Christians will need to flee!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hugh-Dame/1184861044 Hugh Dame

      I know several folks who have spent considerable time there and found the general atmosphere very conducive to free living.

    • victoryman

      A communist / islamic country? The answer is, “Not yet.” We all know the stoy of how to boil a frog…….
      The most dangerous words that are uttered in this country today are, “It can’t happen here.”

    • Tim Ward

      Hmmm. It’s interesting that the Phoenix government is prosecuting Salmans for a “worship” which constitutes it being commercial property, for which it is not zoned. And yet, I guarantee that tonight, July 10th, tens of thousands of Phoenix residents are meeting in homes, some 10-20 in groups to worship a bunch of idols in their living rooms corners called the MLB All-Star game.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Kelly/1177960686 Michael Kelly

    I hope some things here can be cleared up. After the initial outrage, I went to his Facebook page. He’s a pastor? Now, that still doesn’t mean he’s holding church services, but I think that should’ve been disclosed in the article. As long as there’s no collection of money or any church ceremonies being conducted, then he should be in the clear. Also, I’m guessing that Circle of Friends photo was taken at a restaurant, and not at his home.

    But you know, I have to ask these questions just to make sure.

  • Andy od Oregon

    Welcome to the new Nazi America. The same thing happened to the Jews in Germany

    • freedom is not free jim

      has anybody checked on the e-mails between holder and tutelman? how about between obummer and holder about this religous family in arizona.

    • AngryAndy

      How can we check the emails? I would love to know, so I can scream at them.

    • bulldog35

      This is how it begins in every totalitarian regime. Watch out America.

    • jmf

      I hate to say it, but this regime started during FDR’s reign – probably earlier, but that was the most obvious misuse of power ever in the history of our country…at least until now! People don’t get it, but as soon as the age of social programs began it has been all downhill from there.

    • victoryman

      “See something, say something.” I believe this was stated by Janet (Jack) Napolitano. However, it does have echoes of the 30′s and instructions to the Hitler Youth. Just as an aside, where is the ACLU ……this should be a made to order case for them. Oops. I forgot. This is a Christian religious case. Cancel the ACLU.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000425364227 Darlene Tapley

      This is a case for the ACLJ to take to task they win most of all their cases! GOD save the USA and this family!

    • dondh

      That’s true or you could also say welcome to the muslim world that this president is quietly placing some in high places and making sure some get voted into high places!

    • http://www.facebook.com/v.k.mitchell Keith Mitchell

      @dondh, you are so right. If we don’t stand up and take charge of this situation then shame on us!!

    • Armed

      There is a big difference between us and the Jews that were persecuted and slaughtered in Nazi Germany. The Jews were not armed and were pacifist. Myself and about 20 million gun owners won’t let that happen here. The powers that be may, try but they will fail we are much stronger than that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rick-Johnson/100000190455903 Rick Johnson

    Just another in a long line of attacks on the Christian beliefs. Unfortunately it goes to the Ninth Circus. If not for that i would be in federal court tomorrow.

    • rkz777

      The Crusades are scheduled to return shortly.

    • DanC

      The time for talk is over–It is time we all act.

  • Amy

    I hope a really good lawyer grabs this case and takes the city of Phoenix on. You know we could all bet a lot of money that if this was a group of muslims NOTHING would happen to them — after all we wouldn’t want to OFFEND THEM, but it’s ok to charge a Christian for having a Bible Study in their own home. We all need to e-mail the city of Phoenix and tell them how wrong this is. Let them hear from America!

    • Pat

      Here is the email address for Mayor of Phoenix Greg Stanton: mayor.stanton@phoenix.gov

    • Amy

      Thanks — but I beat you to it! I looked it up online and sent an e-mail. Hope many others see this though and take a few minutes to write a note.

  • Linda

    If the group had been celebrating athiest or muslim views, no one would have cared. Anti-Christianity at its best! What happende to freedom in this country?

    • rkz777

      They don’t want to come to my home, believe me.

    • http://www.facebook.com/v.k.mitchell Keith Mitchell

      yup, locked & loaded in Texas!! believe that!!

    • Old Observer

      This country threw our freedoms out the window when they kowtowed to Madelyn Murry OHare and the atheists starting back around ’48—so now we are abpout to reap the whirlwind –rom turning our backs on God to being punished with a muslim fraud in the White House, ensconced there with all his goons. And i predict we will have a hell of a time getting him out, even if defeated in Nov—

    • We the SHEEPle

      Read Deut. 17:15 & 28:43 for an example of having placed a “stranger” very high over you..

      We the SHEEPle no longer care and today’s Weak-Kneed, Panty-Waist preachers & pastors say nothing and lead no one because they fear their government issued 503-c license being pulled!

      If you ask the government for a privilege, don’t complain when said government seeks to regulate/control said privilege.’

    • http://granitegrok.com/author/mprogers Mike Rogers

      You didn’t go to a very good school.
      Rule #1 never ask for permission from the government, if it’s moral and ethical, do it, and the hell with them.
      By the way, it’s moral and ethical to defend. Yourself against armed intruders, too.

    • SCarolina Belles

      Those are powerful verses! Thanks for sharing! Scary!

    • http://www.facebook.com/landreucci Leonard R Andreucci

      Right the ACLU would have like” white on rice” if that were the case

  • JBruman

    Are they nuts? What is wrong with these officials in Phoenix? Once again people trying to tell other people how to live. Sounds like someone abusing their authority again. Why not .. all too common these days with our leaders!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JAXCZPGDEQKYXAMYHBOJZ2LVMY dontrenigin12

    oh there goes those “tolerant” liberal gestapo again,,,

  • Mac

    67 code violations. Why that’s just a little old nothing. How could those commie fascists get away with that. I mean cities have rules but howmdaremthem impede anything associated with religion. I bet it’s really Obama who sent his new and old Panthers out to do this. Yea. I’m pretty sure

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1443371258 Tbark Knives

      Trolls arent welcome here where people have common sense you just dont fit in liberalshitbird

    • Barbara

      Hey Mac as an ex-city worker I can guarantee you that you can find dozens of city code violations on every property in every city and state in the US if you dig deeply enough. It was an excuse to go after this guy and if you don’t see that you are a pitiful blind fool that will not see what this regime of Obamas is all about until it is too late for you and your family. It goes much deeper than what Hitler did….oh yes it will start that way but it will eventually be a takeover through Sharian Law and you will be dead as well unless of course you are a filthy Muslim,

    • victoryman

      Well said! I’m sure if this family had a LARGE group on their property praying to Allah five times a day, that would have been O.K. But A Christian group – or a Jewish group…or a Buddhist group meeting for prayer and fellowship? VERBOTEN!

    • http://www.facebook.com/gordan.runyan Gordan Runyan

      BS. Any home more than 15 years old in America would rack that up pretty easily if the code-nazis have it in for you. Idiot.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XT7VFEL7LT5GGTPXCOOLFUCV64 james

    The local talking heard are saying he had a church…I say to hell with the city and the state and the deg gov…enough is enough…tikme to TAKE our country back…good luck voting ourselves free as no slave ever has…just sayin…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/F26CKLUT6NKFQFK23K7L4EGSI4 Nathan Hale

    So, worship is not a private activity and yet this is exactly part of the argument the stinking corrupt government used to get rid of prayer in the public schools. A revolution is coming and these idiots are making it so.

    • bagman35

      Let me know when the revolution comes, so I will have time to hide my Bible and my money. The bums already took my gun rights from me.

  • Judy

    God give the Salmans strength to endure this persecution. God will triumph and deliver His just judgement.

    • DocBlake

      Spare me the religious mumbo jumbo. The moron broke the law.

    • Rocknrobyn

      Oh really? Just how? Having guests into their home is against the law now?

    • tickedoffamerican

      If you don’t like “religious mumbo jumbo”……you can go to hell along with your messiah!…..no one asked for your input!….jackoff!

    • Battery man

      Be specific, what law did he break? Give me the law code and quote the law that he broke, not what you think the law is that he broke.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JYG6453ANDKF6TKF3XBLH2QXKY Kenny

      Exactly what law is that Doc? State the facts. Please enlighten us morons and tell us the city law ordinance along with its number and listing and tell us Doc is that a civil or criminal ordinance? I hope to hell you are not a real MD. and your just another phony tweaked out lib spewing indiscriminate puke from your orifice like the rest of the oblivious leaches of America. Your azz must be jealous of whats coming out of your mouth.

    • Jetson

      And what law was that, you IDIOT!!!

    • American 1st

      Oh no, it’s DocBlake again – the Liberal Athiest Moron who trolls Conservative sites so he can post his ignorance.
      BTW – he did NOT break the law. This is total religious persecution.

  • DJ

    Welcome to the America of Hope and Change…just what those fools who cast a vote for BO (body odor) asked for. I hope this family sticks by their guns and fights this further through the court system. Hopefully they are able to find a lawyer who will viciously defend their position.

  • Harold

    Is this known as the ‘republic of Arizona now? Or has the KGB arrived, or is it the Moaist? Or is it the Mu-slims?

    • http://www.facebook.com/landreucci Leonard R Andreucci

      Where i th ACLU

    • MontieR

      Do you mean the AntiAmerican collored lovers union.

    • victoryman

      The ACLU does not defend Christians, Jews, Buddhists, etc……..Only Muslims and Communists.

    • American 1st

      They defend or sue on behalf of Prisoners, Muslim terrorists in Gitmo, Gays and Blacks. They even sued the Boy Scouts of America. I’ve never heard of them defending or suing on behalf of a Christian. Good luck with that.

  • Ton

    I hope Governor Brewer steps in and gives him a full pardon. This is abuse of power. That ASSistant city attorney needs to be fired.

    • http://www.facebook.com/melody.reed1 Melody Reed

      Your right everyone should write her, great idea

    • nancymiller

      What a great idea. Someone should suggest it to her. I’ll bet she would intervene. She is one of the honest ones.

  • ckp314

    Arizona isn’t allowed to deport people who are in their state illegally, but they persecute someone who is hosting a Christian gathering in his own home???! Something is seriously wrong with this picture. God bless Mr. Salman and his family – keep fighting the good fight. <

    • Infidel48

      From what I heard of this story. he built a 2000 sqft building in a residential area WITHOUT A PERMIT. You must have a Permit to build a house with electrical, plumbing & structural inspections for safety purposes. This whole story is twisted. It’s not about religious freedom, it’s about laws that apply to everyone

    • http://www.facebook.com/rusty.catanz Rusty Catanz

      It was then that Salman obtained building permits to construct a 2,000 square foot building in his backyard and the building passed inspection. They then moved to meet in the building and the city went ballistic.

    • http://www.facebook.com/marilyn.l.lester Marilyn L. Lester

      He should have held his meetings in the streets like the New York Muslims do. I am sure noone would mind, just like they don’t mind in New York when they tie up traffic for hours.

    • Freedom Fighter

      If you could read, the story said that all building codes were met. You miss the point because of your non(sic)religious bias. . . our freedoms are being taken from us. Let me guess, I will wager that you also defend the right of women to destroy life in the womb but refuse to defend the rights of little girls who are in the womb. You HYPOCRITE!

    • canucksam

      I’ll bet he also defends Sharia Law, too.

    • Harvey

      If you could REALLY read the full story you’d find out that the one you read here is totally biased, ignores important facts, and is designed to appeal to those that do not understand the critical thought process…like you for instance.
      Perhaps you’d try to broaden your knowledge base on this Salman matter by reading the local newspaper which divulges more than Salman’s perspective, here: http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2008-01-17/news/michael-salman-wants-to-build-a-church-in-his-backyard-his-neighbors-aren-t-buying-it/

    • Bluewaters

      Please read what Mr. Salman said. He had the building permits and it also passed inspection!! He did everything legally and safely.

    • Infidel48

      I read the whole story earlier this morning on another site with different info. Why did he 67 code violations?
      Did he get a permit for a garage? That house is in a single family neighborhood, One House per lot.
      As far as Muslums holding prayers in the streets of New York, Why hasn’t anyone stolen their shoes & broken some bottles around them?
      I know New Yorkers.

    • Infidel48

      I read the whole story earlier this morning on another site with different info. Why did he 67 code violations?
      Did he get a permit for a garage? That house is in a single family neighborhood, One House per lot.
      As far as Muslums holding prayers in the streets of New York, Why hasn’t anyone stolen their shoes & broken some bottles around them?
      I know New Yorkers.

    • Harvey

      Please read what his neighbors said, since Salman is a known liar, felon, and police impersonator. You don’t believe me? Check out the local newspaper at:
      http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2008-01-17/news/michael-salman-wants-to-build-a-church-in-his-backyard-his-neighbors-aren-t-buying-it/

    • MRM

      Read the story, he got permits and it passed inspections, dufuss.

    • Saxtrain

      MRM, please don’t start name calling. That’s what liberals do.

    • Harvey

      Are you insinuating that so called “conservatives”, “tea partyites” and the rest of their ilk don’t engage in epithets? Time to return to the planet Earth Saxtrain.

    • Noni77

      So either the “inspectors” were lying about the infractions, or the people who initially passed the building on inspection after it was built were incompetent idiots?

    • Harvey

      Yea, but the building was subsequently found to have more than 60 violations. I don’t know where you live but, imagine living in a bucolic, quiet, beautiful neighborhood for many years, a neighborhood where neighbors know each other by name when, suddenly, some religious fanatic moves in and decides to build a huge building, right up to near your property line, where all sorts of things happen, from quiet prayer meetings to loud music, not to mention dozens of cars coming in and out all day. Furthermore, you find out that the neighbor has a criminal record (is a felon) who recently was arrested for impersonating a police officer and who shows instant, and scary, anger when others don’t agree with him.
      Don’t believe me? Now read this: http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2008-01-17/news/michael-salman-wants-to-build-a-church-in-his-backyard-his-neighbors-aren-t-buying-it/

    • American 1st

      Yeah, like EXIT signs…really? Several articles I’ve read (from Liberal news) said the building passed inspection.
      Let me guess, you’re one of Salman’s neighbors or on the PCC.

    • loon

      It was then that Salman obtained building permits to construct a 2,000 square foot building in his backyard and the building passed inspection. They then moved to meet in the building and the city went ballistic. You must have missed this paragraph in the post!!

    • djstorrie

      From what you heard? Try reading the factual story. He had a permit.

    • http://twitter.com/glopatster Gloria P. Sterling

      The article states that the building passed inspection.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/2BWWDNFRM67K7AIWBYBGUGMPBE ceseme

      The article specifically says, and I quote, “It was then that Salman obtained building permits to construct a 2,000 square foot building in his backyard and the building passed inspection.”

    • canucksam

      Read the story again, Infidel48. Obviously your reading skills are not great. The article said that after a few years of this harassment he obtained a building permit from the city and constructed a 2000sf building, on his own property, to hold the meetings. The structure was inspected by the city and passed inspection. When they started holding their bible studies in it the city went ballistic.

    • Christian LeBlanc

      The building was not permitted as a commercial-code-compliant, Assembly Occupancy structure, but as a big rec-room under the Residential code. It’d be like getting a permit to expand your dining room and then running a restaurant in your house.

    • canucksam

      Sounds like you work for the city of Phoenix, as in the article there was no mention of the articles of the building code he violated.

    • MichaelSee

      As I read the story, the 2,000 s.f. building was NOT commercial in any way. It’s not a formal Church and took in no donations/tithes. It was not a “public accomodation” because attendees had to be invited in. They met once a week. That is NOT the same as running a restaurant in your home.
      My guess is that if these same people had gathered together to drink beer and play cards there would have been little or no trouble. The worst problem would have been all the cars parking on the street. If the Salmans had provided off-street parking even that could have been solved.
      I’d further guess that the problem started with some neighbor that did not want to hear christian hymns being sung early in the morning (11:00) after they had spent the night before drinking. smoking and whatever. They didn’t like it, so they informed on the Bible-study group and possibly applied political pressure. I’d like to know the full story.

    • Rev. Michael

      I’d LOVE to see that if this group can’t meet in the building for Bible-study that they’d put up a tent, folding chairs, sound system, etc. and continue to meet. If it’s good enough for shady traveling evangelists it ought to be good enough for this group. If any necessary permits for that were denied it’d be a case of obvious prejudice.

    • JJ

      Huh?! Where does this equate to running a restaurant?! There’s nothing in this story that says he provided any sort of commercial services. So, if he “expands his dining room,” so to speak, just how does having friends over constitute a violation?

    • nancymiller

      The article said that he DID get a permit and that the building was legal. Read more carefully.

    • Jetson

      The article above says he obtained the needed permits and the building passed inspection.

    • jmf

      He did get a permit, and the building passed code…read the entire story.

    • grody

      illiteracy must be rampant in your neck of the woods. Read the article again.

    • dHb

      That is exactly correct infidel48. Good post. He did not get a permit for the cross and marquee he erected.

    • FireMall

      The Phoenix codes dept gave the Christians a building Permit. and final inspection pass.
      I’d bet the bank that if these folks were Muslims and this was happening to them –YOU WOULD HAVE READ THE ENTIRE ARTICLE.

    • jaxum

      Enough about the building, The point here is the violation of his first amendment rights. It shouldn’t matter whether or not you are religious. If you can’t see the hand writing on the wall that proclaims the end to your rights, you’re blind. As for encouraging the neighbors to spy on their neighbors, that was common, encouraged practice in Communist Russia. People were sent to prison on the strength of what their neighbors said, sometimes lies because they didn’t like you for some reason. Is this what you want?

    • http://twitter.com/jude83268949 jude

      you liberals really like to lie about the facts, read the article he had permit to put up the building.
      Now if it had been a grow house the police would have never bothered him for years.

    • Pete

      Only liberals lie about facts. Now I know why Fox lies all the time. They Re really liberals. And Rush too and Glenn. Now it makes so much sense”m.

    • Noni77

      They tell the truth which confounds your fantasy construct upon which you base your entire fraud of a life.

    • Infidel48

      Don’t be calling me no commie. I am a card carrying dues paying TEA Party member.
      He had a permit for a GAME ROOM for personal use. Not a Church with a Sign and Cross on the street, which he also had, omitted from the story. A sign makes it Class A public use.
      He also had an activist atheist neighbor. Atheism is replacing Christianity as the National Religion.

    • exbuckeye

      How about learning to read?? Then GO BACK and -READ- what it said about the permits he obtained and the inspections he passed!
      Next try reading the Constitution of theUnited States of America
      and its list of amendments! Read number 1 especially!

    • Infidel48

      I have a copy of the Constitution and have read it over several times.
      He had a permit for a GAME ROOM not a church with a Sign & a Cross on the street. He also had a neighbor who was an activist atheist. Atheism is becoming the National Religion.

    • American 1st

      HE WASN’T RUNNING A CHURCH. It is Bible Study, which is held mostly in homes. As a matter of fact, I can’t think of any other place Bible Study is held.

    • Infidel48

      He had a Sigh & a Cross on the street and an activist atheist neighbor.
      Atheism is becoming the National Religion. God Forbid!!!

    • American 1st

      Wrong. He had the proper permits. Here is a statement from another news source:
      The family, having secured the proper building permits, moved the Bible studies to this new building.

    • Infidel48

      He had a permit for a GAME ROOM for personal use. Not a Church with a Sign and Cross on the street, which he also had, omitted from the story. A sign makes it Class A public use.
      He also had an activist atheist neighbor. Atheism is replacing Christianity as the National Religion.
      I am an Infidel, ask any Muslim, not an atheist.

    • Ken

      Absolutely!

    • Harvey

      What’s wrong with this picture is that you believe the tripe that “freedompost” posts without actually looking into the subject yourself, as I did.
      Check out: http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2008-01-17/news/michael-salman-wants-to-build-a-church-in-his-backyard-his-neighbors-aren-t-buying-it/

    • Lois

      Prophesy is unfolding before our eyes.

      I agree with you, something is seriously wrong with the whole picture.

  • Sam

    I have no idea what this family did wrong, but it sounds like the government, in this case the city of Phoenix, is once again trying to shut down the US Constitution.

    • victoryman

      Constitution? We don’t need no &*^%# Constitution! This is the way our government works today. Executive orders as a way around congress, etc. I hope no one out there will decide not to vote for Romney because he is a Mormon. I firmly believe that ANY Mormon in the White House is better than an Islamocommunist with hatred for this country and working for its destruction.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000425364227 Darlene Tapley

      Sorry you have drank the cool-aid that says we MUST vote for the lesser of two evils instead of voting a righteous vote for a Tea Party CONSERVITIVE vote. GOD save the USA fron this insanity!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Phaedra-Dragon/100001837580924 Phaedra Dragon

      I think the current Mayor of Phoenix has a dislike for all Christians; even though said Mayor will proclaim to be a Christian. This is another example of Political Correctness. At least Kansas doesn’t play those kinds of silly games.

  • Luong Do

    But if some muslim cut-throats hold a Quran home study, it would be OK. Welcome to Obummer’s New America. Hey, you asked for change!

    • http://www.facebook.com/landreucci Leonard R Andreucci

      Amen

    • FireMall

      The New York Muslims stop traffic 2-3 times a day to bang their pray to Allah heads into the pavement while “Working”: Christians end up late from lunch.because of one sided Religious Tolerance.
      Has anyone heard if New York Christians have held a mid day prayer meeting in the streets ?
      Just wondering if Bloomberg the Nazi has put the Anti Christian word on the “Other” religions so to not insult His & Obama’s favorite enemies within…

    • http://twitter.com/SunsetParker Sunset Parker

      Its worse than that Mallie. The effing Christians riot in the streets on Easter and Thanksgiving (parades they call them) and run amok in the department stores during their “Christmas.” They torture us for months in advance with their awful Christmas music and their endless Christmas sales. And the bells! Please God make them stop! And no Mallie child, Muslims don’t stop traffic 2-3 times a day to pray to Allah. A: the devout pray 5 times a day and B: any common idiot that ever spend a day in New York would know how stupid your post is. But not you Mallie. You’re a special idiot.

    • marys1000

      As a non-Christian, I leave people to celebrate their Holidays. And nobody is keeping you here!

    • marys1000

      As a non-Christian, I leave people to celebrate their Holidays. And nobody is keeping you here!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B27DJUR7T42TMNAS76RRTUBEBE davidh

      regardless of Obama’s thoughts this is a christian Nation, go to a moslem country and complain about Islam, LOL

    • Raymond

      Look who supports what God has forbidden.
      http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/5274418826.html

    • Raymond

      David,
      If America were a Christian nation, Obama the homosexual
      muslim would not be sitting in the oval office.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OXEUPLQP5N3NWO72YU6KUTFHFA Vern

      Obama is sitting in the oval office because too many people
      believed what the Liar was saying. Lets hope he spends the
      next four in a jail cell, and then Christians can get on with
      their lives.

    • Ernest P. Worrell

      Hey, Vern, you done slammed that cell door on my fingers, Vern!

    • Lucky3511

      No way! He is a Muslim, He is Black, He is a Demoncrat.
      Three things which when combined mean there is no way, the authorities in USA will even rebuke him, He will probably be awarded medals for all his terrorist activities

    • patriot

      satan obumer blinded a lot of people promising hope an change. i hope they arre happy now they voted this commie in.

    • larrylunts

      Wow! A short letter, but you got almost everything wrong! (1) Obama is not a homosexual. He just believes that Christians shouldn’t go around persecuting them. (2) Obama is not a Muslim. He is a Christian. (3) You are correct that America is not a Christian nation. It is a secular nation, where every citizen is free to hold any religious beliefs he chooses.

      And if America WERE a Christian theocracy, it’s open to speculation about who might be sitting in the oval office. Obama might be a too “Golden-Ruley,” “forgive-thy-neighbory” kind of Christian for the right-wing Christian mullahs. Reverend Fred Phelps might be more to their liking.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HADKEKLJD7ZYKVIJXVPQG3EJGE major

      One thing Obama isn’t and that is a Christian i’m a Christian and i don’t want this country or world to be like it was when Church and State murdered millions, by a Church that did not even resemble Christ’s Church. But i think that is what is coming again that is when the right and far right in this country get fed up enough with the Liberals and Marxists and idiots destroying it, this movement is quietly taking place and has been for several years it already is very powerful. The one behind the destruction of this world is the god of this world Satan himself who uses people in power for his purposes and from the looks of things in America Satan has been allowed by God to take charge.Since a once Christian Nation has kicked God out of everything and that’s not enough for theses Lucerferians they now want to stop you in your own home.The day is coming where once again the Bible will be banned as it will be blamed for mans rebellion against the state

    • Twilah

      Which Obama are you talking about??? The one that worships in the street with Muslims, or the one that attends an occasional Church service for political reasons? How does it feel to be committed to a Pied piper? Read the tale…you might just identify……

    • Raymond

      Wrong wrong wrong.

      Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama, Admits That He’s A Muslim. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1717944176 Bob Lanese

      You can’t really believe that the TURD in the white house is not a muslim… Did you ever hear of researching a topic you talk about??????

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OC6SKJLQDZEY674X7VRYBWH6AI Tom

      @ larrylunts: This November, I can hear a BIG FLUSH !

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1717944176 Bob Lanese

      You can’t really believe that the TURD in the white house is not a muslim… Did you ever hear of researching a topic you talk about?????? Vote the turd out of office in Nov..

    • William Pritchett

      @larrylunts. What do you base statement #2 on?

    • Bonnie Wren

      You actually believe that Obama is a Christain??? That is moronic!! Also, the basis for the Constitution and the laws in America is our Judeo-Christain heritage! It is true that the left has made it a mission to bring as many heathens to America as they can, but the basics still remain, like it or not!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HADKEKLJD7ZYKVIJXVPQG3EJGE major

      We were once a Christian nation started by men and women who had a real zeal, love and respect for our lord though some differed in their views on how to set up the Church they had the common bond of love to God and Christ.

    • Old Observer

      And this is just what we get for turning our backs on God!

    • rennyangel

      In Muslim countries, being a Christian or Jew makes you a pagan and an enemy or Islam and shar’ia and the entire nation.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B27DJUR7T42TMNAS76RRTUBEBE davidh

      regardless of Obama’s thoughts this is a christian Nation, go to a moslem country and complain about Islam, LOL

    • http://www.facebook.com/PDubOne Paul-Wesley Bowen

      I can only say, God have mercy on your soul.

    • Noni77

      You are more than welcome to leave! If we need more cockroaches, we’ll contact you.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Burleson/1360835127 David Burleson

      You are free to leave,but thanks for proving you lack the ability to convey common sense.By the way,christians pray in New York,and Muslims blew it up.

    • J.B.

      You scream torture…but then you happily take the day off like a good little hypocrite don’t you?
      The people who whine about “religious holidays” should force their bosses to let them work every holiday of every faith they oppose.
      Christians aren’t so happy about all the cult and pagan holidays either, but you don’t see us take the day off.
      Muslims disrupt the flow of society all the time. And then they want everyone to show toleratance for them while at the same time being intolerant of those they demand tolerance from.

    • Mienna1

      TY JB, I was trying to find a way to say that without losing it. I just love how Thanksgiving and Christmas are still being called “Christian” holidays, yet it is the secular public out there pushing the rioting for material items and all that junk. Christians aren’t shoving that crap down your throat, COMPANIES are. I’m with you, JB, maybe all the people who complain about religious holidays SHOULD work them all.. And at a regular days wage as well. No time and a half.

    • Mienna1

      TY JB. I was trying to figure out how to reply to this without losing it. For one thing, CHRISTIANS aren’t the ones shoving all that crap down your throat, it’s COMPANIES. The secular public has tried, and pretty much succeeded, in removing Christianity from Christmas altogether. It is no longer PC to say, “Merry Christmas”, The phrases “Season’s Greetings or Happy Holidays” is preferred now. In fact, a couple years ago, I had a boss threaten to fire me for saying” Merry Christmas” to people because there were people out there who were offended by the use of the word Christmas. I told her to screw herself and to go ahead and try to fire me and see how well she liked being sued. Thanksgiving was NEVER a Christian holiday. It is a day of thanks created by people of faith, yes, but it has no root in Christianity itself, but in American history alone. In any case, both have been commercialized and secularized to the point where Christianity no longer figures- at least in the eye of the public. I’m with you, JB. Perhaps people who object SHOULD have to work those days…. and at regular wage too. No time and a half.

    • PJ

      This is ridiculous. No, they don’t stop traffic but in various places they get to take time out of work and have a special room that they get to use so don’t tell me how Christmas is so present during the season. I agree that Christmas is a bit overdone, but remember there are more people that celebrate Christmas so you will have to deal with this, fair or not. Unfortunately other religious groups force society to make special consideration for them and castigate Christianity at the same time. As long as a group does what they do without getting into the face of others I’m good. We don’t need to be so selfish and uptight.

    • winki

      There was a news article a year or so back about Muslims getting several blocks of New York City blocked off to have their worship sessions. There were pictures of the traffic barricades and the men on their prayer rugs. So yeah I’d say they are stopping traffic.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PH23KPKIPD2B2WVUXYORYLCJ2A BART

      Also Dearborn, Mich. Paris, France and other cities around the world.

    • Twilah

      This may have been the one where Obama was seen kneeling, shoeless, to worship with them. Our country is blind and I’ve come to the conclusion that God is blinding eyes. We need to be taught a lesson…and boy, are we going to be taught!! I live in Maine and he’s got Mainers snowed, too…in more ways than one…!

    • Shepherd of Grace

      Blessings, Sunset. America the Beautiful is based on Biblical truths that so many non-Christians just don’t understand. In FACT, the things going on in the world now, such as earthquakes, wars, rumors or war, horrific weather the world over, etc. are prophecies from Matthew 24 (that is the Bible). We are living in the last days and and it is not the mahdi who is coming to rule, it is Christ Jesus, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. I am sure you won’t like it when He rules and reigns either, but He will handle you in His way. In the meantime, please feel free to move to Iraq, North Korea, or any other country where you need not worry about God’s people.

    • Raymond

      Do you love America & support Biblical values?
      If so, take a look at who is targeting you, with the
      full backing of the federal government. Raymond
      http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/11c/Dattilio_arrest/index.html

    • Raymond

      Barack Hussein Obama attempted to put a 86 year old librarian in prison for
      5 years for being honest.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=7n2m-X7OIuY

    • Rocky

      Right on..Shepard of Grace,but be prepared for the worse they will be advancing on USAmerica from South america
      where the bulk of them are waiting for the word to crush us
      USAmericans,word from the White House most likely,their are sleepers here in USAmerican already,they are nasty muslims.

    • Heywood Jablome

      Not nasty by choice. It’s just those heavy robes they wear, with the record heat waves and all. Personal freshness is occasionally an issue for us all. Seriously, Rocky, have your doctor re-evaluate the meds.

    • larrylunts

      If these are end times, it’s more likely that God is just P.O.ed about Adam and his descendants screwing up the one simple job he gave them: be a caretaker for his Earth and his creations. Instead of doing that, we’ve caused extinctions of myriad animal species; poisoned the air, sea, and land; and devised ever-increasoning horrors and cruelties toward other human beings. Heck, if I was God, I might be tempted to drive a moon-sized asteroid into the planet; and take a mulligan on the whole creation thing.

    • FireMall

      Sunset, When you C&P your venom here please be intelligent enough to change the name of whom you are replying to . Mallie ? Wthe.
      BTW: KMA just for general Principles.

    • ARMYOF69

      Go eat some bacon I left in your fridge disguised as lamb cuts.

    • Mr. G. Loos

      Your a fuking idiot!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OXEUPLQP5N3NWO72YU6KUTFHFA Vern

      Sunset I think you are one of the Democratic nuts that does not realize you live in America. You need to head on to China
      where they aren’t allowed to have anything connected to Christmas. I think you have more than bells going off in your
      head. Most Americans enjoy Christmas time, and Christmas
      music, so head on to a country that does not celabrate
      Christmas, cause we don’t want you here.

    • Patriot Lady

      Sunset Parker…. If Christmas bells and parades are all you can find to critisize, please….go drown your sorrows in some Jim Beam. Smoke a mushroom or something. Just try to feel better. Apparently you think stopping traffic 5 times a day is better than 2-3 times. Please enroll back in school and learn to count. Five is higher (i.e.”more”) than 2-3. Stopping traffic five times a day is worse than stopping traffic 2-3 times a day.Yup, someone sure is a “special idiot” but It’s not Mallie.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/June-Gagnon/1673686634 June Gagnon

      Well now, YOU should “know” an idiot when you see one! Since you, obviously, do NOT like CHRISTIANITY, nor even being an American, why don’t you GET THE HELL OUT OF THE USA- -move to Iran, Red China, North Korea- -you’d either “love it there”, or suddenly realize just how “good” you had it here. If you don’t like CHRISTMAS CAROLS- -WEAR EAR PLUGS!
      If you don’t like parades- -STAY HOME! As for the “shopping crowds” during CHRISTMAS SEASON, I don’t like them either, so I DO MY SHOPPING EARLY1

    • Drifanwulf

      What riots in the streets during Christmas and Thanksgiving? A parade constitutes rioting? In who’s imagination, yours? Your truth is relevant which isn’t truth of any kind. But it is insanity. Therefore I believe you are insane. Want to prove your not? Don’t vote for Obama.

    • Twilah

      I believe Iran is still looking for residents, Sunset. You’d fit right in, since you can’t ‘stand’ Christians acting like Christians in the U.S. Then there would be one less irritant to contend with while we are “rioting in the streets” and ‘torturing” others that seem to enjoy it. Bon voyage….

    • William Pritchett

      ding-a-ling

    • JBRice

      You need to remember that these people are being paid to “pray” in the streets of NY. Yep, they are bused in and paid for their participation. Neat huh? Obama has so many people snowed. He really has to go.

    • Lady Liberty

      WHAT???? Who is paying them? Why aren’t they being arrested for ‘impeding traffic’….you know, like that couple who were dancing in NY’s subway, to the music of a drummer who apparently is allowed to do HIS thing! What is going on?????

    • Raymond
    • Bill

      It certainly appears as if Christians are being targeted. Is that not the general way Communism controls people.

    • goku vegeta

      I SAY LETS REFLECT THE RED DOT ON CHRISTIANS BACK ONTO THE REJECTS AND SQUEEZE THE TRIGGER!

    • http://www.facebook.com/david.madison.3344 David Madison

      That isn’t the Christian way… We have laws and procedures in place. We also have a vote… Last I heard, City Prosecutors are elected officials. Vote the bum out, and any one else who supported this mess or failed to intervene.

      Speaking of which, assuming all of this is true, have any of you been calling in to the Phoenix Mayor’s office or, Arizona State Attorney General’s office to lodge a complaint about this blatant civil rights violation? Maybe it is time to do something like that, before talking about lining your red dot sights on those who have been given a public trust and responsibility to uphold the law.

      (And, I’m an ex-felon; can you imagine!)

    • surjit kaila

      See how Christians are being targeted by muslims. http://www.compassdirect.org

    • Raymond

      This is an excellent website,
      thank you for sharing it.

      Raymond

    • muslime exterminator

      so that’s why these fags bend over so frequently.

    • Raymond

      Lt.General (Ret.) Jerry Boykin on Marxism in America.
      http://www.morningstartv.com/oak-initiative/marxism-america

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HADKEKLJD7ZYKVIJXVPQG3EJGE major

      I have posted this site many times shariahthethreat.com this is a very educational site Lt.General Jerry Boykin and others are doing a great job of exposing another threat besides the Marxist takeover and that is the very serious threat that most people don’t have a clue about the Muslim Jihad right in front of their noses.

    • surjit kaila
    • Carmelo Junior

      Do not vote for Mormon-Polygamist RomneyCare, stay home and teach the GOP a lesson

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/E-Elaine-Connelly/100000106663068 E Elaine Connelly

      And give Obama another 4 years, you are not an American, you are a traitor.

    • nemnem

      We don’t have the luxury of waiting for another opportunity. Obumer out now or we will never recover!

    • surjit kaila

      ” We don’t have the luxury of waiting…. we will never recover ” It is not a matter of recover, we will be doomed for ever. we have muslim imposter in WH and MUST get him out. See http://www.thereligionofpeace.com and http://www.islam-watch.org

    • dhtyler

      Are you just stupid –by doing this Obama will accomplish what he has set out to do–destroy USA.

    • goku vegeta

      THE POINT IS MOOT! OSOMA OBAMA IS NOT LEAVING OFFICE. HE’S IMPLEMENTED MARTIAL LAW IN AMERICA WITHOUT DECLARING IT. EITHER THE RESULTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED BEFORE THE VOTE TAKES PLACE, WHERE THE VOTES ARE COUNTED (BARCELONA SPAIN) WILL REPORT WHAT HAS BEEN PRE-DETERMINED REGARDLESS OF THE ACTUAL VOTE OR HE WILL DECLARE HIM PRESIDENT FOR LIFE WHEN HE LOSES. THEN AGAIN HE COULD CALL OFF THE VOTE ENTIRELY@! HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT HE’S DOING EVERYTHING IN AMERICA TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT RIPE FOR CIVIL DISTURBANCE, SO THAT HE CAN BRING IN THE MILITARY? RACE, RESOURCES, UNEMPLOYMENT…

    • http://www.facebook.com/sharon.worsham.35 Sharon Worsham

      That may be what is going to happen, but I do home and pray we, the citizens of the United States, wil and can stop the evil man.

    • TAC

      So I guess you’re fine with Obama being in office for another four years? Great thinking… teach the GOP a lesson? You’re kidding, right?

    • Karen

      First of all Mitt & Ann Romney are not Polygamist. Second we are all going to get out and vote for Mitt, and against Obama. You might as well get used to saying President Romney.

    • Jake

      Romney has been married to one woman for 44 years. Romney is not a polygamist. Stay home and let Obama win?
      I don’t think so. Obama doesn’t have a clue to how our economy works. He is nothing but destructive!!!

    • EagleScout

      Get your facts straight. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has not taught or supported polygamy in decades. If you are going to throw slurs at someone, at least be intelligent enough to use accurate terms.

    • Mike6

      I spoke to a Russian Orthodox Priest once who the CHEKA sent to a Soviet Gulag for ten years for reading the Holy Bible from the pulpit. This Priest refused to join Stalin’s “Living Church” which was about preaching Bolshevik propaganda. He told me about the delight the CHEKA guards displayed when they denied food to starving Christian inmates in the Gulag.
      In the last month of his incarseration, the Priest was allowed to saw Mass, read from the Holy Bible, and to give the Sacrament to the dying prisoners.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/IC64RVL2RUFBKOYIJ2NPFM5GMM Robert Olivero

      You must be a muslim yourself!

    • Kelly Kafir

      So Obomao can get another term??? Do you routinely cut off your nose to spite your face, idiot?

    • The Truthagator

      Ordinarily, I would agree. However, in this instance, if THAT is what we do, the communist piece of crap Muslim in the White House will win and America, as we know it, will cease to exist during the following 4 years. Obama has spent the first 3 1/2 setting the stage for his final takeover. He has invaded the power of the Legislature and usurped it and they have done nothing. He has the blessing of the communist Harry Reid in the Senate with his majority of anti-American scum, and Boehner in the House is a weakling who refuses to take on the White House would-be dictator, pretender to the thrown who wipes his 1/2 white, 7/16 Arab, and 1/16 black hiney with our Constitution every day. This is a must do election. If Obama is re-elected, it will be the last FREE election held. He has been steadily tearing down the Separation of Powers combining legislative and judicial with executive and THAT, boys and girls, is the definition of tyranny and a TYRANT. This is what sparked the FIRST American Revolutionary War.

    • Bonnie Wren

      If Obama is re-elected, I would say that a second American Revolutionary War would be in order! Another idea….wouldn’t it be a kick if, in that contingency, every state (one by one) seceeded from “the union”?

    • daniel

      Another ignorant bigot speaking of things he has no idea about.

    • allfools

      This whole thread is full of ignorant bigots speaking of things they know little to nothing about. The demise of our nation is shown by the comments in this thread.

    • goku vegeta

      VOTE THIRD PARTY FOR A PROGUN CANDIDATE AND TEACH THEM A BETTER LESSON. QUIT THROWING YOUR VOTE AWAY VOTE ACP!

    • Suzyu

      Vote thirs party and get Obama. All choices lead to two choices, Obama or Romney. You choose who you want in office and be honest and vote for the man of your choice. You cannot NOT vote. Bby not voting your vote goes to Obama.

    • Nina 107

      Your an idiot Obama supporter!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Trinity-Holmes/100001442563637 Trinity Holmes

      That will just assure 4 more years of the communist in the White House!!!Are You a registered communist

    • don

      carmelo junior, I agree with E Elaine you are a traitor. Ignorant should also be added, when you tie Mormon to the word polygamist, and “Mormon” is a book not a religion! The name of the Church is “The Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints”, so your intent to say it is not a Christian Church is also false. Your intent is to elect a kenyan, marxist, muslim, union-soros backed, flat earther,.dictator.

    • 1Clara2

      To not vote at all is a vote FOR “O”. Even if you don’t particularly like Romney, keep in mind…he has no dreams of becoming a dictator, he was born in the USA, and he loves his Lord…as opposed to the America hating Muslim we have in office now. There’s not a day that goes by that “O” doesn’t do something or say something that hurts this country more. Look at it this way: if someone was beating your daughter to death, wouldn’t you jump in and do what you could to save her? Please…this is the time to jump in and do what you can to save your country…REALLY!!! Regardless of the propaganda you may have heard, this IS the greatest country in the world. Plus, Romney is NOT a polygamist. The Mormon church banned that practice decades ago.

    • http://www.facebook.com/sharon.worsham.35 Sharon Worsham

      Hey, are you stupid? If you stay home to teach the Republicans a lesson, you are the loser. Obama will be elected again, and you will wish you had voted for Romney. You idiot.

    • patriot101

      If you stay home You ma as well as vite fo obomer.

    • oldsalt

      Carmelo Jr.: IDIOT!

    • Raymond

      Another example of how governments are supporting evil…
      http://www.hudson-ny.org/2702/sabaditsch-wolff-appeal

    • Raymond

      Christians Face Possible Jail Time For Signing Petition Against Sodomites.
      http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/christians-who-signed-petitions-investigated/

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/IC64RVL2RUFBKOYIJ2NPFM5GMM Robert Olivero

      Raymond are you presently in the service? If so what are you going to do when the powers that be ask you to fire on American citizens?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OC6SKJLQDZEY674X7VRYBWH6AI Tom

      @ Robert Olivero : That is THE question to ask your member of the U.S. Armed Forces when they come home on leave. Just how far has our government gone toward a dictatorship ?

    • http://www.facebook.com/sharon.worsham.35 Sharon Worsham

      Too far for comfort. This must stop. We must vote, vote, vote.

    • Raymond

      Obama supporter explains why she supports him.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV8P-vib5n8&feature=related

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J4UOD5EFMW5PIZ2Y7OEZBG77J4 YHWH IS AND ALLWAYS WILL BE

      WELL I SUPPORT ANYBODY BUT OBAMA, EVEN SATAN AT LEAST I KNOW WHAT SIDE HE IS ON

    • Carlene Brown

      Obama is a Anti Christ. He’s the “Obamanation” of desolation.

    • NObama2012

      No, she supports him because he’s the same COLOR as her.

    • Raymond

      Evils supports evil.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/IC64RVL2RUFBKOYIJ2NPFM5GMM Robert Olivero

      Ray its probably because she’s black and stupid!

    • Rocky

      Get out of your cars and beat them with canes you can buy them in a lot of stores??? Street bums,passing unatural gas…LOL ???

    • Heywood Jablome

      Grab a pogo stick, and pelt them with legos that you found at a bus station??? Dolphin wannabees, with their hoity-toity manners…LOL
      ??? I need my meds.

    • Eagle Scout

      How about giving them Bacon. Bacon makes everything better :)

    • Woman for Jesus

      Pour lard on all the streets and they won’t get on them!

    • jim

      some of them need to be run over by a fast moving vehicle namely a truck .
      a sidewalk and street bare both public ploaces and not a place of prayer!

    • Heywood Jablome

      What a very Christian thing for you to say! But wouldn’t a steam roller do a better job?

    • MR.RIGHT

      I am so sick and tired of ‘people’ saying “Thats not a very Christian thing to say.” Are you telling me that a Christian (which I am) can’t get angry and have rightious indignation over whats going on in ‘OUR’ country, are you kidding me? even Jesus got angry when they turned the temple into a den of thieves, he overturned tables… and if you read more in the Bible God sent people into war. This is the government against the people…I think they are underestimating “WE THE PEOPLE” lock and load come get my gun you can have it barrel first!

    • steveni

      The Democraps are kissing Islam’s arse to appease them. They believe that if they make America an Islamic State, that will end terrorism.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mplazenby MsPatricia Lazenby

      You’ve got to be kidding Steven, they kill their own for God sake… nothing will stop the devil in his tracks but Jesus Christ Himself. Stay tuned last I read He was on His way Back. COME LORD JESUS COME!!!!

    • Bonnie Wren

      AMEN!!

    • goku vegeta

      IF I SAW A REJECT PRAYING IN THE STREET I WOULD USE WHAT THE RAILROADS USED TO GET THE BUFFALO OFF THE TRACKS! I WOULD DO IT AT RAMMING SPEED!

    • MSGT JOHN CORREA

      This nation was built upon Judeo-Christian principles and it has been clearly recorded through history. The idea that our right to practice our religion is offensive to the Muslims is pure insanity. What we lack in our country today are leaders with guts to defend our basic principles of religion. I wish we had Australia’s Prime Minister Kevin Rudd who told the Muslims to GET OUT! When they tried to impose their loony Shariah law upon the citizens of Australia. Ask these Muslims who created their Isalmic religion, and I can almost assure you that most of them don’t even know that Muhammad was a murderer and a terrorist. They follow their man-made religion blindly.
      MSGT JOHN CORREA
      USAF (RET)

    • http://www.facebook.com/trainmanretired Terry Allen

      Amen here also… and may I add that probably the one’s that snitched are either Atheist or muslims.

    • A F

      Can’t speak for Muslims, but as an atheist I support the Salmans’ constitutional rights.

    • http://www.facebook.com/trainmanretired Terry Allen

      Thank you for adding your side… I wish ALL religions and Atheist would respect others and their Constitutional rights as you have said… Thanks again, your a good person.

    • Truth4Free

      I don’t believe in atheists, because I have never met anyone who has not at some point in their life experienced some attribute of Love, and God IS Love.

    • Mrgloos

      I think we as Americans have the right to have our constitutional rights but I can’t say I have the same feelings for for our most recent migrants with other religious beliefs. I don’t feel they have EARNED the right to even consider using our rights to express their beliefs or ways of life that don’t fit our lifestyle. Praying in street and all five times a day! What kinda sh*t is that. And wait til they die and go to their allanaha and find out their 40 virgins are all little boys!

    • Rocky

      YES!!!! Good for You SALMAN,stand tall. Now you know who
      has been telling on you,your neighbors.

    • XX

      google deerborn michigan stoning of Christians to see what muslims can legally do
      The area where this man lives is semi country, larger lots and some fields. Plenty of room for him to have friends over as a study group or any kind of group for that matter.Please do not call down judgement on the heads of people here in Phoenix, we do not like this either. However there are sections of the city that are a little weird and he seems to be in one of them.
      A jail term is so far out of line, yet this is prophecy you know. The gov’t was not satisfied to take prayer from the schools, not satisfied to educate the children in a humanist religion and will not be satisfied until they control what goes on in our homes. I wonder who nudged the prosecutor to change the punishment to a jail term? And yes, where is Jan Brewer who was loud enough about a popular vote getting issue? She could pardon him tomorrow. But that would not put her back out in the public eye as the next big thing.
      There are churches all over the US who have Bible studies in their members’s homes, Catholic, Jehovah’s Witness, LDS, Methodist, Baptist to name a few. How bad can it get? remember Daniel was placed in the lion’s den because a neighbor saw him praying inside his own home. We are the new Babylon.

    • marys1000

      I bet if it was a cookout, not a word would have been said!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HADKEKLJD7ZYKVIJXVPQG3EJGE major

      The Bible gives plenty of evidence that America is indeed Mystery Babylon Isaiah and Jeremiah both give Prophecies about an end time nation and the only nation that has all the criteria given is America i have studied Bible Prophecy and History for years and i’m convinced beyond doubt America is Mystery Babylon. The Ladoceian Preachers say this Mystery Babylon is a church, but Christ’s Angel tells John plainly in Revelation 17:18 that this woman is Symbolic of a Great City and many Prophecies from Isaiah and Jeremiah show this same woman to be a Mighty Nation with much criteria that is given can only fits America.

    • canucksam

      You got that right. Those ladies who hold Tupperware and Mary Kay Cosmetics parties had better watch out. Oh, I forgot…..it’s only if you’re a Christian that you’ll have a problem. Can’t have a bible meeting, can’t stand on the street reading the bible, no crosses or other religious articles in public. Gee, am I back in 1939′s Nazi Germany?

    • MKKaren

      Mary Kay is a Christian company. Guess they’ll ban cosmetics next. Oh wait…they don’t need then under those Burkas!

    • canucksam

      That’s true. But how do we know it’s a woman under the burka?

    • Rocky

      That’s their secret? is it man or woman???

    • jondarmes

      I guess you just have to slip your hand up under that burka and see what you come up with. Kind of just go for it and take your chances, Huh.

    • Joan

      Got news for you-Jesus stands by us and I will not stop praying, wearing crosses or whatever. This is a free America and I will stand beside here. Who will join me? Have faith people-Jesus will always stand by us..

    • Noni77

      2 Chronicles 7:14, people.

    • Gary77

      Well said!

    • http://www.facebook.com/v.k.mitchell Keith Mitchell

      If my Children who are called by my name!! & the name is JESUS!!! thats wats up!!

    • Rocky

      But becareful when you are sleeping…40,000 terrorists are
      waiting to take over USamerica,remember they Rape women
      in their country’s if you think they are civilized you aren’t facing reality,they’ll take your children and women,it’s bred in me to protect what I have like my wife and sisters and brothers christians in other countries protect themselves they fight if they have to,don’t be so stubborn read upon it with what they do to others who don’t worship muslim style,if you marry one of them they can do whatever they want with you,it is coveredby their “Sharia Laws.

    • http://twitter.com/josamen Joseph Amendolea

      yeah….Alexis de Tocqueville once said “I studied the Koran
      a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction there
      have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad.
      So far as I can see, it is the principal cause of the decadence so
      visible today in the Muslim world and, though less absurd than the
      polytheism of old, its social and political tendencies are in my opinion
      to be feared, and I therefore regard it as a form of decadence rather
      than a form of progress in relation to paganism itself.

    • http://twitter.com/josamen Joseph Amendolea

      yeah….Alexis de Tocqueville once said “I studied the Koran
      a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction there
      have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad.
      So far as I can see, it is the principal cause of the decadence so
      visible today in the Muslim world and, though less absurd than the
      polytheism of old, its social and political tendencies are in my opinion
      to be feared, and I therefore regard it as a form of decadence rather
      than a form of progress in relation to paganism itself.”

    • Joan

      Got news for you-Jesus stands by us and I will not stop praying, wearing crosses or whatever. This is a free America and I will stand beside here. Who will join me? Have faith people-Jesus will always stand by us..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HADKEKLJD7ZYKVIJXVPQG3EJGE major

      America’s fate is spelled out in Biblical Prophecy although we have been taught that America isn’t in the Bible. America with all it’s greatness and it’s influence around the world a country once considered itself a Christian Nation the country that sent it’s people all over the world to preach Christ’s Gospel among other things, and the Ladoceian Preachers say we are not even mentioned well we are not only mentioned; God has Plenty to Say about America who became a Harlot and his words paint a very Grim Picture of what is instore for this once Great Christian Nation that was once a nation that was a God Loving Nation. Before a nation can become a Harlot or whore it must have belonged to God first. The Church stood by at let a couple of atheists and few lucerferians kick God and Jesus Christ out of everything and God has judged America and she is found guilty.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XAXKELK2PWS3BHFCDLD7O665JI Mary Jo

      Sad to say I agree! I didn’t think I would live to see the downfall of America, but, I have!!! There is much to come before this world is destroyed! That warning must be stated so many may recognize what will be happening very soon!! they won’t deny it once it begins. No turning back the clock of time then!!

    • Buckeye8

      This is local repub policies

    • grody

      the district attorney here happens to be democrat, and so are the city council. Need to clarify your facts breaux.

    • American 1st

      Buckeye8 -
      In your dreams, moron!
      And stop disparaging Ohio with your Liberal lies & drivel. I bet Ohio residents would be offended with your monicker……

    • American 1st

      Buckeye8 -
      In your dreams, moron!
      And stop disparaging Ohio with your Liberal lies & drivel. I bet Ohio residents would be offended with your monicker……

    • Buckeye8

      Obama in a landslide come Nov.

    • American 1st

      Don’t count on the worst prez EVER being re-elected. He actually took the Worst Prez title away from Jimmy Carter. Even Dem politicians & Hollywood “stars” are running from him. “The One” turned out to be “The Bum”. So good luck with that.
      Anybody But Obama 2012

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XAXKELK2PWS3BHFCDLD7O665JI Mary Jo

      The huffer puffer liberals who are whining over campaign funds in Ohio!!! The liberals jumping up and down calling the kettle black when the unions and the Acorn crowd brought bus loads into Ohio to corrupt the vote!! Unions that has sent millions into other states to support Liberals!! But, NO one else is allowed to do what they did????? Ohio will either get well or go down into the He— hole it was going in!!!! By the way, where is all that casino money going to????? State Lottery only sends 6% to the schools! This is how corrupt Ohio has become!!!! So, puff away, Bozo.

    • nelawh

      My thoughts exactly. When is “PC” going to stop being so bias. I can’t believe that in this country we are having to defend the freedom of assembly and religion.

    • JOAN GUNTER

      Hi I’m with you. Its OBummer all right. We need to all take a stand and take our country back. Jesus is with us so lets show him election time. God Bless us all.

    • Doris

      It’s OK if they sacrifice their sheep and goats and let the blood run into the streets, too!

    • Raymond

      Boy Suspended From School for Wearing Ant-Obama T-Shirt.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    • Raymond

      TX School Sued for Prohibiting 3rd Grader from Inviting Friend to Church – Nederland ISD
      http://hardincountyconservatives.blogspot.com/2012/05/tx-school-sued-for-prohibiting-3rd.html

    • Rocky

      I won’t abide by his laws,they are not on the book of Laws yet,he said he’s not trying to change things but actions speak louder than words,this is a
      home grown liar,they hide their weapons in their mosques and weapons
      and do the planing in them,there are 40,000 terrorists awaiting orders to attack USAmerica they have some sleepers here already and the rest are in south america,from different muslim country’s.They will be doing everything you can think of…Rape ,pillage,torture,maim,the most vulnerable will be the unbelievers and others who haven’t heard yet???

    • American 1st

      40,000 terrorists poised to attack America? Tell them to bring it on. In 2011 there were almost 15 MILLION hunting licenses issued in America + Millions of CCW / CWP licenses, Alaskans don’t even need licenses to carry.
      We weren’t prepared for 9/11, but today is a different story.

    • rod

      i think the people who voted for change meant ( Spare Change ) !!

    • rwduncan

      God help us all if we don’t get Obama out now!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Paul Brown

      Oh, how right you are Luong, this country wanted change and they didn’t ask what kind or to what effect it would have on their lives, and all they did was give more of their rights away with each vote.

    • Lucky3511

      Right on Luong Do

    • MR.RIGHT

      In my opinion anyone that votes for any politician that has a D- before their name is voting for communism. All demoncraps are commies and I repeat all the demoncraps are COMMUNISTS that hate this country. the only thing thats going to save this country is the true Americans with GUNS in hand taking back what these communists have and are doing to this ONCE great country. (once obastard got elected that was the begining of the end for this country… although it started back in the 50′s he is the final nail in Americas coffin.)

    • http://www.facebook.com/sharon.worsham.35 Sharon Worsham

      Well Said, Luong Do.