FL Law Sought To Shut Drs. Mouths On Guns


x2_9a34583Legislation signed into law by Governor Rick Scott (R-FL) sought to strip doctors, particularly pediatricians, of their First Amendment rights.

While the National Rifle Association (NRA) was behind the bill, and for the record I support the NRA just not in this instance, their argument was that doctors were interfering with the right to bear arms. That is not what was going on. Pediatricians were simply concerned that if there was a gun in the house that encouraging parents to be careful was necessary. Encouragement is not interfering with the right to bear arms.

Frankly, those that have pediatricians that you have taken your children to for long period of time are almost like family anyway and so you would take their concerns as you would any other family member.

The legislation was called Firearm Owner’s Privacy Act (aka the ‘Docs vs. Glocks’ law). It was declared unconstitutional by U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke.

“What is curious about this law—and what makes it different from so many other laws involving practitioners’ speech—is that it aims to restrict a practitioner’s ability to provide truthful, non-misleading information to a patient, whether relevant or not at the time of the consult with the patient,” Cooke wrote in her ruling.

“The state asserts that it has an interest in protecting the exercise of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms,” she continued. “I do not disagree that the government has such an interest in protecting its citizens’ fundamental rights. The Firearm Owners’ Privacy Act, however, simply does not interfere with the right to keep and bear arms.”

The Miami Herald reports,

Cooke, the judge, said the legislation was based on anecdotal information and unfounded conjecture. Her decision was praised by the groups of plaintiffs, which included the Florida Pediatric Society and Florida Academy of Family Physicians.

“I’m ecstatic our challenge was successful,” said Dr. Bernd Wollschlaeger, a North Miami Beach plaintiff, who represented the Florida Academy of Family Physicians.

“We’re acting out of commonsense, and this is a commonsense issue,” said Wollschlaeger, a past president of the Dade County Medical Association. “My fear is the state will appeal and keeping wasting money to fight windmills. This is an ideologically driven, politically motivated vendetta by the NRA [National Rifle Association] that has to stop.”

“Guns in the home are a proven deadly risk,” Dan Gross, president of the Brady Center, said in a statement following Cooke’s decision. “Guns kill eight children every day. The government cannot tell us or our doctors that we are prohibited from discussing the deadly risks posed by guns.”

While I’m no friend of the Brady Center, he is right. The government cannot tell a citizen that they cannot speak about a subject. In fact, doctors don’t seem to have a problem asking me and my wife about birth control (we have 9 kids) every time we’ve had a child. We just politely say, “We’re not interested.” It always gives us opportunity to tell them why and that is because children are a gift from God and thus why would we want to say no to God’s gifts if He so chooses to bless us. The same can be handled by adults and talks of guns with their doctors. If one is not interested in hearing it, then politely say, “I’ve got it handled.” If you are, then be appreciative and listen. Simple. No government intervention is necessary.

What is amazing to me is that a “conservative” GOP governor would sign this law and that the NRA would back it. I have let the NRA know that I don’t approve of the law, even though I don’t live in Florida. It is just as unconstitutional to silence people’s speech as it is to bar them from keeping and bearing arms. Both are important to protect.





  • dondehoff

    I am 80 years “young”, and a 50 years-plus Life Member of the NRA, and I don’t object to an MD advising parents about guns, as long as they also mention, swimming pools, sharp knives , playing with matches, medicine cabinets, child molesters, running into a street or crossing a street in “mid-block”, riding with drunk drivers, etc. Home swimming pools and auto accidents each kill more children every year than all of the rest combined. As for guns killing young people, over 90% are gang related—I suggest we have a gang problem, and the gun is merely a tool. If there were no guns, other deadly devices would be employed—and while gun deaths are tragic, guns also save the lives of many every day—the most good for the most people? That concept is why we don’t ban automobiles. Instead of banning guns, let us require gun safety education in the schools, starting in the first grade; Initially, that education should consist only of, “Don’t Touch, and report all unsecured guns to parents, teachers or the police”. With that, there should be wide-spread school and TV publicity for all who report an unsecured weapon, along with a plaque and a “two-dollar bill” reward to the child. Note, I would fund the first 100 two-dollar bills and I suspect the NRA would donate the plaque. And while all of that is very important, the bottom line is, world history reveals that gun control is one of the essential first steps in establishing a socialist, communist state or a dictatorship. The Bottom, bottom line is, “education and not confiscation”!

  • BruceD

    If doctors were to say that if you have a gun in your home, care has to be taken for the safety of the children. Simple statement. The doctor doesn’t have to ask if the patient has a firearm.

  • Michael G.

    First off it’s nobody’s business if you own one or not. If you do, lie; Obama does that one very well.

  • alnga

    The NRA has finally slid off into the oblivion of no accountability..

  • Alkholos

    More people are killed at the hands of incompetent doctors than by guns. How about some doctor controls? More kids die of drowning than by gun accidents; should we fill in all the swimming pools? Many more kids are maimed and/or killed by dogs than by gun accidents; let’s exterminate all those mutts.

  • Bob@Home

    I went through this with both our kids – from well baby checks all the way through sports physicals.
    “Do you have guns in the home?”
    “I don’t discuss our family’s security with folks who aren’t family, I’m sure you understand.”
    And for each doctor, that was enough. If you can’t look someone in the eye and tell them to mind their own business, then you’ve got bigger problems than can be solved by a misguided bill.
    They’re looking for the nitwits who answer “Yeah! Lots! We keep ‘em loaded in unlocked drawers scatter about the house.” Not a likely occurrence, but a good opportunity to discuss the insatiable curiosity of toddlers and teens – kids always testing their limits.

  • Winston

    Taking from the Physician’s Hippocratic Oath: “What I may see or hear in the course of treatment or even outside of the treatment in regard to the life of men, which on no account one must spread abroad, I will keep myself holding such things shameful to be spoken about.” So, physicians, keep your mouth shut about things other than the treatments of ailments of the patient.

  • bleedinell

    Doctors should assume every household has guns, and stop asking stupid questions. It’s like asking if they have a coffee maker.

  • Bruce

    “Kills 8 children a day”. Pure BS. That’s a number that includes up to 26 year olds and doesn’t differentiate between an 8 yr old and a gang banger. They are all just “children”

  • xo

    JMJ . Guns don’t kill anyone, people kill people, weather intentional or not ! ! !

  • Play2k

    Why do gun control advocates always seem to have an armed contingency (often times the secret service) close at hand?

  • Rob

    Why can’t a doctor just include in his warnings to a parent, to be careful and keep all firearms out of the reach of children? The problem is, and I can see the objection, doctors should not have the right to question you about gun ownreship. Simple, don’t question simply include the warning as they do with drugs, cleansers, chemicals, sharp objects, etc… I have never been questioned about drug, knife, chemical or cleanser ownership I guess it’s fair that I not be questioned about gun ownership, simply warned along with the other household dangers that may befall a toddler.

  • http://twitter.com/WesternDesert1 WesternDesert

    The law was passed after an Ocala, Fla.,
    couple complained that a doctor had asked them about guns and after they
    declined to answer refused to see them anymore.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/own-a-gun-the-doctor-cant-refuse-to-treat-you/

  • Daniel Gray

    Sorry, you are wrong yet again. It is NO BUSINESS of anyone outside your home if you have a gun or not. And for a Doctor to demand to know if you do is an invasion of your privacy, makes no difference how long you have been going to them or not. And for you to repeat the tired disproved refrain that “guns kill eight children every day” from the Brady morons, when the FBI Crime report clearly shows that at best, guns have only killed 122 children in a year is doing nothing but parroting the Brady morons statements. Granted 122 children is a sad statement on today’s society, but it is a far cry from the 2880 a year claimed by the Brady morons. So in this case, the NRA is completely correct and you are yet again completely INCORRECT!

  • Randy G

    Guns are dangerous in the home? How about bathtubs? Don’t a lot of accidents happen in the bathroom?Don’t forget ” Living is hazardous to your health!”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000401563349 Lewis Sanborn

    Interesting.. The 2nd Amendment exists to protect the 1st Amendment, yet here the 2nd Amendment is used to curtail the 1st Amendment?!