Bill O’Reilly Goes ‘Ballistic’ Against Informed Congressman


oreilly chaffetzTuesday evening on Fox News’ The O’Reilly Factor, Bill O’Reilly demonstrated just how ignorant he is when it comes to guns and gun laws. He was so insecure about his own thinking in regards to this that he hardly gave Rep. Jason Chaffetz opportunity to respond. But when Chaffetz did, he schooled O’Reilly in the No Spin Zone.

O’Reilly claimed that it “made sense” for the sale of all “heavy weapons” be reported to the FBI and that a law like that was “badly needed.” Now O’Reilly didn’t define exactly what he meant by that till the Congressman misunderstood what he said. Then he claimed he was speaking about “machine guns, mortars, howitzers.”

Now understand they were speaking in light of the Aurora, Colorado shooting. Not one of these devices were used in that shooting. James Holmes was armed with a shotgun, an AR-15, and two handguns.

O’Reilly said that people train at a flight school and the FBI is alerted. That must be news to the Department of Homeland Security who allowed 25 illegals to have flight training and an illegal alien to own the school. He then compared it to purchasing a machine gun and the FBI is not alerted.

For O’Reilly to claim that his show is the “No Spin Zone” he did a lot of spinning. Chaffetz rightly pointed out that you must get permission to purchase a machine gun. You need to pay a class three tax to ATF and there is a thorough background check.

In addition to that, when a person goes to purchase a firearm the FBI is not “alerted” per se. For instance, if one does not have a concealed carry permit then paperwork is filled out and kept on site. The FBI is contacted to make sure that you are eligible to purchase the firearm, but they are not to be keeping records of that phone call. However, if you have a concealed weapon permit, then you have already gone through a background check and you simply fill out paperwork, which stays on site, and go on your merry way.

When Chaffetz pointed out the need to receive what he called a “tax certificate,” which is what I refer to as a class three license, O’Reilly tried to spin again asking if he had been to a gun show as though that made a difference in the discussion. Chaffetz rightly pointed out that you can’t just walk into a gun show and buy a “bazooka” or a fully automatic machine gun.

O’Reilly stopped him in mid-sentence to claim that one could buy an AK-47 in this country and there would be no report of it. That is just a flat out lie. It isn’t spin. It’s a lie. AK-47′s are short range rifles and they can be obtained in the same manner that you obtain any other weapon. The only way there would be no reporting would be in states where you sell from one person to another privately and even then there is to be a paper record to protect both parties. Any purchase through a gun dealer whether it’s a .22 handgun or an AK-47 has paperwork involved and the individual has been checked out via the FBI or through their CCW background check.

Then O’Reilly gets to more than just “heavy weapons.” He begins talking about the 60K rounds of ammunition tha0t he alleges Holmes had acquired via the internet. In reality Holmes only had 6,000 rounds. According to the New York Times he purchased 3,000 rounds of .40, 3,000 rounds of .223 and 350 12 gauge shotgun shells. So I’m guessing he wants a law for that too.

He then claimed that if you sell “heavy weaponry” and then included “automatics, semi-automatics, ammunition” all you do is file with the FBI. OK, this is where he changed up things. Now, he’s substituted “howitzers, mortars and machine guns” for virtually every gun that is provided through a gun dealer.

O’Reilly wants the government surveilling citizens if they buy a particular quantity of ammunition. He was bent over 60,000. But what about 20,000? How about 10,0000? What if it was only 1,000? You get nearly that in one ammo can of .223.

Chaffetz again rightly points out that there is not going to be a FBI agent trailing every individual who buys a large bulk of ammunition. My goodness, we can’t even get them to learn from 9-11 and follow up on 25 illegals taking flight training. They certainly aren’t going to be going after ammunition buyers!

Bill then tries to imply the 60,000 rounds were purchased at once and calls them “heavy duty” rounds. O’Reilly, these were not .50 rounds. They weren’t even .45′s. They were 12 gauge shotgun rounds, .40 caliber rounds and .223 rounds. O’Reilly was just being sensational in all of this and reacting emotionally. He also keeps talking about an AK-47, which was not used in the shooting. It was a Smith & Wesson M&P15, which is an AR-15 rifle.

O’Reilly in continuing his rant about the AK-47, that was non-existent in the shooting, was filled with misinformation, as well as, he claimed only a handful of states required the reporting.

What was almost hilarious was O’Reilly’s claim that the congressman defines the gun laws and then proceeds to claim there are loopholes where there aren’t loopholes and Rep. Chaffetz continues to tell him that they have defined the laws and that O’Reilly is misinformed, which he is.

While Bill O’Reilly says he wouldn’t ban AK’s and that he supports the Second Amendment, he then says he would ‘report’ such purchases as ammunition. OK then if you wouldn’t ban AK’s why are you speaking of them as though they are some sort of terrible thing? Why do you make them out to be so bad? Furthermore, since we are guaranteed to be secure via the Fourth Amendment, would O’Reilly then be in favor of the FBI having to obtain a warrant before snooping around every person that purchased a particular type of firearm or purchased bulk ammunition?

You see my friends, this is what acting emotionally to a situation gets you. It gets you blathering like an idiot and contradicting yourself and misinforming the public on issues like this.

Bill, sorry, but at least in this article, the spin stops here. Chaffetz called you on it and I’m calling you on it. Until you are better informed on the subject you should keep silent on it.





  • Dan

    I went to the range. 3 times this month . I have shot over 1000 rounds of 9mm 300 38 spl. And a mix of other. And this is the 1-10-13. By feb. I will go thru 2000 rounds easy. This is not as much as I use to shoot due to other respondsabilys . I buy my ammo in bulk and reload. Nothing for me to buy 3000 rounds at A time.

  • REID

    Bill O’reilly IS one Of those NY know it alls that doesn’t know his Azz from a hole in the ground. He just outright lied in this interview. The Federal Government has know business in the firearms business at all . Even The BTAFE should be disbanded .

  • mwl

    The United States congress negotiated and passed a bill to sell weapons all over the world to anybody with a few bucks. Or anyone that wanted such weaponry. These were FULLY automatic weapons, all kinds of explosives, bombs and equipment that kills thousands. They sold it to the Afghan govt. in Aug 2011, we knew exactly when they received shipment. Here they explosives went from a “kitchen soup” mixture which leaves black soot and heat scorch marks to clean absolute and total destruction of our armored vehicles. NO SOOT, NO HEAT. Pure plastic.
    The US govt gets a pass just like Gregory on Meet the Socialist Press. Although an Iraq vet mistakenly has several 9 M/M rounds in his pack pack gets hammered. This all in our disfunctional DC of morons. Reilly did this for ratings and he wasnt supposed to know what the hell he was talking about, like Michael Moore and Feinstain total bufoons whereas Congressman Chaffetz not only had the facts but shoved them down Reillys big mouth.
    Mike in Afghanistan

  • BigUgly666

    Frankly – I pretty much through with O’Reilly.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chuck.edinger Chuck Edinger

    I often watch Mr. O’Reilly and he can on occasion become overbearing in his discussions with guests. But I have no idea whether that occurred in the example reviewed in this post, because the rambling narrative provided was very difficult to follow. None of the weapons carried by the Newtown-murderer were illegal nor were they illegally obtained. As has been true of all of the mass murders of recent years, the key variable was not the weapons employed, but rather the failure of the state or private authorities to adequately protect the schools which were attacked. Every school in America could be provided with trained, armed security personnel for under $6B per year, a pittance compared to Mr. Obama’s various “stimulus” programs. Additional “gun control” laws will accomplish nothing but to threaten American citizens basic right to protect themselves. Significant progress toward reducing the frequency and severity of mass attacks can be made by the simple, common-sense move of enhancing security in vulnerable situations. While VP Biden’s special committee recommend the common-sense approach? I will be surprised if that approach is even considered.

  • Seymour Kleerley

    O’Rielly is walking a tightrope. He”s a Coservative Propagandist but not a Right Wingnut. He’s trying to rescue the GOP from it’s fire breathers and at the same time not anger his audience. Fox pundits are really having to earn their money these days.

  • esq

    I have never been a fan of Bill O’Reilly period.He is nothing but a Liberal. I couldn’t understand how he and Glenn Beck got along.

  • Sam

    The statists are in both parties. Keep your eyes a d ears open.

  • SickandTired

    O’reilly is a New York raised Harvard educated man. So he is not emotionally attached to The Bill of Rights as most of us.

  • foxtrap

    I’m hugely disappointed with O’Reilly. I thought he was smarter than that. He transformed the No Spin Zone to the Twilight Zone the left lives in.

  • lloyd olson

    Nearly no one can comprehend killing children, as if some law would stop such a person. One item needed, someone inside the door the man was kicking down to put a .45 slug between his eyes, that would be effective gun control. We have cycles of school shootings, anyone who thinks some law will stop someone this sick is in as much trouble as the shooter.

  • Kingscairn

    Finally, people r waking up to O’Reilly being nothing more than an unenlightened twit. He can’t get real patriots on his show anymore because they’re sick of being interrupted, brow beaten and humiliated by the egotist.
    He has experts on and then ” bloviates” taking up all the time..

  • MSGT Lucy Garza USMC (RET)

    Jason Chavetz (R) Utah is a true conservative. He fights tooth and nail every Obama attempt to diminish our gun and other rights. O’ Reilly has no clue what guns rights are all about as long as he lives in a 10 million dollar residence in a Long Island, gated community in a heavily guarded 8 bedroom mansion. Such a hypocrite he is. Chavetz would to relinquish to the think headed O’Reilly. One of the few House reps to stand their conservative ground.

    Obama is doing so many things to change America behind the scenes that we will never know what they are until they hit us. That is the way dictators and tyrants work.

  • kellys

    OReilly is full of crap and has been for years.

  • jammin

    Not so much an O’Rielly fan anymore. I think he is switching coats…

  • Wacko

    Send a howitzer up O’Reilly’s azz for being stupid on the gun laws!

  • Freedomfirghters

    Bill OReilly needs to check his facts before he lies. He is nothing but a blow-hard. In fact he should do us all a favor and quit wasting oxygen by breathing.

  • Frank A McCafferty

    BUFFOON O’REILLY AT IT AGAIN, when it comes to arrogance, condescending, truly thinking himself as a man of knowledge and means he has the shortest dick in the room.

    He is a loser who’s time has come and gone. who does he think he is “and thats the memo”

  • a fellow patriot

    He’s a tired old hack. Even Beck couldn’t get thru to him and would just shake his head in disbelief at O’Reilly’s ignorance. It’s become painful to watch his show.